AZ Gov. Jan Brewer Wants To Fine Smokers And Fatties

"briskly swinging scrotum"

Must find a way to work that into a conversation today.

What can I say,....the poetry of luv. The muse must a moved me. ( always happy to amuse,....I do,.... . . .well,....it has happened. peace ! )

He does have a way with words.

This isn't government intervention, it's the majority singling out an unorganized minority (definition: no lobbyists), scapegoating them, and imposing their will upon them. We see this sort of thing in my state too, and in my opinion the whole idea of sin taxes should be deemed unconstitutional. If the government was serious about these problems, they would do something to impact the Tobacco and Fast Food industries, who by the way are well-organizes (definition: lots and lots of lobbyists). This whole idea is a sham, and something we've come to expect from the Wicked Witch of the West.

you know if they are fat and smoking they are going to die younger therefor the skinny non smokers are going to live longer so they will cost us more over time....
arthured.......

Maybe we should organize and hire a lobyist...
arthured

On the contrary, being fit and in shape does not necessarily mean you're going to live much longer, it means you're not going to go to the hospital for completely preventable problems.

That would solve a lot of budget problems.

And she should be the first one to tax herself.

Boy, she will have to pay a lot in taxes.

Hell, she might just balance the budget by herself!

She can afford it with her salary we pay plus her healthcare we pay for...
arthured

jan brewer will be the first in line to pay the ugly tax (LOL)

Send john Boehner there. He's a chain smoker.

"then it'd just be a stupid empty desert."

Pretty close to what it already is, here. Fining the symptoms will only lead to more problems. The only route is through education.

namely, tax the senators and congress people (in other words, the stupid) because THEY cost the tax payers more than any fat person or smoker does

Nicely done

Oh baby, that is so good!

Bravo! +^d!

Oh boy.

Americans are not fat because of Monsanto or GM foods.

They're fat because they eat too much, too often and never exercise.

Three words, deep-fried coke. That's why Americans are fucking fat.

Couldn't have said it better myself - good job!

Great response. I'm responding to you instead of gump so that your post will remain the first one after his. It IS a crisis situation.Take your wife to the emergency room right away, gump. I wish you and your wife well!

Been There twice and other places also . treatment is diagnosis by doctor and use of ultra sound. And sent away with a script in hand to get hillbilly heroin and anti vomiting pills. Which she often looses when she throws up. Expensive way to get permission to purchase dope. I am not a user . She is afraid of herion dependance. With good cause. High likelihood. So she trys to avoid them as much as she can. She knows the stuff. What it can do. Thank god or whatever they told us what the problem is. I expected her liver was dieing. But they do deny that this is an emergency. Because she is still alive I guess. I was told the operation costs 68k. More than everything we own. So I want techniques and proper tools to do it myself. Doing anything ourselves is illegal and this would be kind of way out . But we will see . She refuses to go to mexico. Mexico is close.

Is anybody on this thread in medical field? Give some useful advice so he doesn't have to operate on his own wife, for godsake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There has to be some way for him to get better help than this pathetic bandaid crap! You and your wife hang in there, gump. Keep making noise and bugging them--maybe they'll finally pay attention and do something. Sometimes local tv or radio news shows have an advocate-type person who will make the noise for you and get some action. Good luck.

If you are on the level, I feel for you - You must seriously consider moving --

i am sorry that your wife is going through this. that governor of arizona will rot in hell

Pass it to the Left... Always to the left.

A double fine will be levied if you pass to the right.

Then your doing better than I am right now

Always

Ha!!! Good Morning bailey78. =)

Agreed!!!

you're out of luck if you're smokin a fatty in arizona... move one state over in either direction

Good afternoon good Sir.

It's Sunday morning now. Again, Good Morning bailey78. =)

I am doing great:) And your self how goes your world.

bailey78... Things are Good, not much to complain about other than it's Sunday, Snowing and back to work tomorrow... =( You doin' Alright???

LOL.... none when you put it like that!

the inflation of food costs just over the past couple years should work... and the farm subsidies that our politicians take should be put to use on behalf of the people of the respective state.

True, people will likely think twice about over indulging if they know it will cost them. Perhaps fast food chains will downsize their soda cups to same money too? Have you seen a "medium" lately? That used to be the extra large when I was growing up!

The high cost of smokes has got me to smoke less and I'm even working on quitting with a nicotine vaporizer right now.

LMAO!

And what about smokers with children who smoke in the house or car or even while pregnant? That would tend to multiply the medical problems. Maybe she's punishing childlessness or maybe she thinks she can squeeze more cash out of that demographic.

just another tax for her to find a way out of paying

Once they get SpyCams set up everywhere, and drones flying above, around & behind us with more lightweight SpyCams...

Futureworld => it just keeps gettin' Brighter & Brighter. Infrared anyone?

Why help diabetics & fatties when they can be Ze Fantastic Source of Revenue paying for new killing fields?

George Peppard is behind this I know it.

its not really much of a choice anymore though... harmful food is everywhere... and the healthy food is full of poisons... what is a person to do?

At what point does it stop being a personal choice and starting becoming an affliction though?

I'm not for the fine, but I'm willing to bet a huge majority of people that smoke cannot stop smoking because of its absurdly addictive chemical properties. Anecdotally, I've heard people had an easier time quitting heroin.

People have to want to quit smoking. People have to want to stop eating to excess. There isn't a treatment in the world for people who don't genuinely want to improve their health. There's a big difference between wanting to do something and being determined to do it.

I'll carry two.

Thank you FDA and USDA for that. Thank you GMO food producers and processors. We don't eat commercial meat, only buy from small, local farmers or raise our own. Ditto veggies. We have a 30'x50' garden with fruit trees elsewhere on the property. No pesticides, no commercial fertilizer. Use fish emulsion for fertilizer. Cheap in 55 gal drums. Hook it up behind the tractor on the 3 point hitch and spray. Ditto organic compost (my kids used to call it my dirt farm). Greenhouse or look in Mother Earth News (great publication) for smaller alternatives to greenhouses. Good luck.

I quit cold turkey and am convinced that it is the best way to do it. It IS difficult, very difficult. I still maintain that we have the choice whether to not to smoke, or do anything else for that matter. Come ride the ambulance with me. We treat/transport a LOT of people who have smoked all their lives and now have COPD and are on 4L O2 just to survive. Cigarettes are NOT good for you but we all have choices how we live our lives. Yes I am aware that tobacco companies have put larger amounts of nicotine in cigs to addict people. Try some of the RX patch meds to help stop. I missed it with a beer afer work and with coffee at breakfast. That said, I don't think it is within the governments power to tell me how to run my business or not to smoke in public. If the people elect and pass laws that run this way we are free to move to a less oppressive, if that is how one looks at it, state/city. Freedom means choices and takes more personal responsibility than government control and edicts.

HAHAHAHAHA!! :-D

I did not see your comment before I posted mine, obviously, Great minds think alike! :o)

No it looks like you got in there first, my bad. We knew that joke had to come out though. Chalk it up to ESP. She needs to smoke one, maybe she will get the bug out of her ass.

LMAO! Love it!

I couldn't agree with you more. They want smaller government, except for the things they don't like. At some point, even they have to see the hypocrisy.

I would agree with both of you, but that at the core is the real problem with hypocrisy. Plain and simply a chronic hypocrit is NOT capable of seeing the doublestandard they apply to the world around them.

They almost always have to be forcibly removed from thier own point of view to come to any kind of self realization, much akin to many other psychological impairments.

+^'d blue and lazlo

Ditto!

I laugh like Muttley at stuff like this when I smoke a "fatty"! Peace.

Yep, there's a big difference in being blind and refusing to see.

Self realization is NOT a strong suit of the right. Period!

Self realization would mean stepping outside of your narrow minded world and acknowledging the world around you.

I agree only to a point...I mean, how intrusive do you want your government to be?
I want government, I need government, but talk about micromanagement this is too much.

One solution is to limit the kinds of items one can purchase with a food stamp card, no liquor, no junk food, no fast food, no processed foods etc...These are typically low in nutrition, high in calories, and expensive. Children need protein, vegetable, and dairy, foods fortified with vitamins and full of additives and sugar are not healthy and add to the unhealthy conditions of obesity, diabetes, hypertension etc...In CA you can now spend food stamps on cold food items at Subway, a sandwich vs a gallon of milk and a dozen eggs nutrient for nutrient this is a waste of taxpayer money. Which I'm not against helping the poor, just make sure the money is spent wisely.

This is a sensible way to look at it, but not always practical. Many low-income/impoverished areas have no supermarket or grocery store--only fast food and convenience stores. About the only produce you may be able to find in such a place is bananas. With the cost or non-availability of public transpo, many who may want a better diet can't have one. In some places, community gardens have helped, but Arizona (the hottest parts) probably isn't the best place for that. Not to mention city or state gov't contributions to such projects is less and less likely all the time. Brewer would probably frown on the idea--just guessing. Anybody in Arizona have any facts on this?

smokes yeah... but junk food is way cheaper than healthy food... thats one thing contributing to the obesity problem in america... it costs a lot to eat healthy... its very cheap to eat badly

You are right. They pissed and moaned about the First Lady trying to educate people on how to feed their children in a healthy way and they slammed her for it. I really believe they are a stupid lot who must have chips in their brains that get energy from watching Fox News.

I think the even bigger problem is as the reps move further right, they make what used to be just plain whacked, main stream. 20 years ago, they wouldn't have allowed her in the room, much less run her for governor.

You make an EXTREMELY valid point with the First Lady's nutritional agenda. +^'d!