Video: Minnesota senator says Minneapolis schools destroyed by integration

You, the Senator, and the teachers have a lot in common! You are doing what you always do, blame the victims..

All that changed was the quality of the basketball program right?

"Affirmative action" is racism, pure and simple. It needs to be thrown out the window.

That is another myth circulated by the racist Right, designed to discredit the law in order to abolish it..This Senator's mindset is one of the obvious reasons why affirmative action is presently needed...

You are racist and stupid, which is ALWAYS one-in-the-same. MORE WOMEN benefit from affirmation action than minorities.

Affirmative action was beneficial to white women as well as non-whites, so how is it racist? How would you define "legacy points" which allowed the kids of white alumni whose GPA didn't qualify entry to be admitted to colleges and universities? And, what's your take on the use of the "corporate image" (i.e. blond, blue-eyed applicants) designation stamped on job applications as a way of denying minorities front office or entry level jobs.

The Republic Syndicate has been trying very hard. After all the R.S. will tell you that Racism no longer exists.

I really dont get it either they know our governor WONT sign that pos bill

Which party are you talking about? Because it seems to me that they both do it but some more subversive than others. Because you are not smart enough to take care of yourself, the government can do it for you.....

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LOLS man you are so easily trolled. Doesn't take much to get your panties in an uproar. Again you know nothing other than what I tell you. Yet your hate and rage is showing so much that you are threatening me? Online? LOLS I love your assumptions about me. Let me clue you in a little. I am a huge fan of South Park and little to nothing is sacred with them when it comes to social satire. I think very much the same way in that as long as there are sacred cows, they will be slaughtered. I am not homophobic in any way. I love my homosexual friends and would die for them along with any of my friends. The difference here is I do not care what color of skin they are, gender, nationality, sexual preference they are and the biggest thing is that I don't hold anyone issue more important than the other as you do. I actually treat everyone equally and not preferentially as do you. That means that equal respect and equal poking fun of. Sorry if you cannot handle that. So assume all you like.

Spam!!

And he has a 3rd grade mentality!

no, educate yourself on the issue. There is no racism here. I totally agree with him that it is an insult to minorities to tell them "Hey you are too stupid and impoverished to learn so we will ship you to a better school and lower the tests you can FEEL good about yourself and we can feel like we are helping you so you will vote for us again and again"

No. I disagree. Humans of all races and creeds have a way of naturaly stratifying themselves. Intagration has nothing to do with it. If the truth be known the powers that be have been dumbing society down for thirty plus years. They are afraid of an EDUCATED SOCIETY. An educated society would never let them get away with the shit they are trying to pull now. Regan was the president when they stopped teaching critical thinking skills and civics. Knowledge IS POWER! and with knowledge there is no fear. Reagan's advisors felt that it would only take the retarding of three generations for the Republicans and their corporate cronies to take full controll of the American Empire. So thusly we have been in a dream state of reality for the past thirty years. Now, look at what they are trying to do. Look at the problems our society is facing. It is all connected. And as natural stratification will have it, we as a collective intelligent society learn very fast. We have quickly learned our rights and what to do with thoes elected officials who decieved us into voting them into office.

I was with ya till you tried blaming Reagan and I agree with most of ya after that. But it wasn't Reagan fault, the dumbing down of education started in the early 70's with Dr. Spock and when all the hippies grew up and realized they were in control of education because those who can do, and those who cannot, teach. Sorry but Reagan had little to do with our education system failing.

NIce but I hate Phelps equally

LOLS, nice diatribe too bad you have no idea where I come from and what my opinions are nor my experiences. Crimes against humanity? Really? You are offended, and then retarded. I was just poking a little fun (no pun intended) as you tried to blame Reagan for people dying of Aids. That whole argument if full of fail. When it was quite clear that the sexual deviance and ignorance of gay men got themselves killed. Sorry, sad but factual as I have had 2 friends die of aids and 2 more still living with it. But your ignorant assumptions in your monologue was brilliant. Thanks for playing.

One of the responsibility of being President is NOT to allow the failed social practices of the past return to the present. Example, Child Labor Laws. In the 1800's and well into the 1900's Coal was king in my area. My grandfather was one of thoes children who had to work the mines picking slate out of the rice coal. At the acient age of 7 he was earning a whopping 1cent per hour for 12 to 14hrs a day. Blind by thirty and dead from black lung by the time he was fifty. The luxury the coal barrons enjoied at the expence of exploited children allowed for maximum profietability of their product. Children no longer have to work in thoes conditions but Google it and don't be suprised what you find. Republicans also want to repeal the minimum wage, and some bankers suggest that we need to work longer hours for less money,(like we haven't sacrificed enough).

The doorway to these practices were locked and sealed shut until Regan smashed it open by breaking the Air Traffic Controllers Union. That started the trend of weaking the unions, allowing the slow transgression to the pre 1900's labor practices. My area used to be very Union Strong. Now the mere mention of the word union can get one terminated from employment. Workplace equality has slowly gotten worse since the ATC distruction.

Regan, as we all know, was also a fundementalist christian. His campaign contrubutions came from religious organizations and contributers like Pat Robertson and his 700 club, Oral Roberts ministries, Jerry Falwell, and Billy Grahm. Their "CONERN" at time was that children of the time, (my generation) was loosing interest in jesus and the bible. They were "CONCERNED" about Family Values and the deteriation of the family. They put him into office and they wanted payback. During Regans presidency, Critical Thinking Skills were nolonger taught in high school. Simply because critical thinking skills were blamed for the loss of religion in our society. We applied this thinking ability to religion and found that the belief of an invisible sky father sitting up in the clouds counting out every sin was simply rediculous. That, however didn't stop the endorsement of Regan to have "CREATION SCIENCE" introduce in our science classes. In which it failed. Thanks to the efforts of top scientists and thoes same "Hippie" educators. Fast foward twenty or so years and they tried it again, this time with a name change to "INTELLIGENT DESIGN" . Same shit, new package. It failed yet again. Thanks to thoes same scientists and Hippie educators. The battle however is far from over.

Every year tens of thousands of American Children are carted off to Jesus Camps across the nation to learn the fallacy that the Earth is ONLY 6,000 years old, and that good christian (only) tribes somehow co-existed with the DINOSAURS. And that we somehow domesticated them and they were our work cattle. Also, we cohabitated with them in some kind of CHRISTIAN FLINTSTONE world. I wonder if we were able to comunicate with them with the magical phraise "YABBA DABBA DOO"? But ironically that phraise is not found in the bible when it discusses the speaking of toungs. Why? What is the spiritual and religious significance of the magical dinosaur tounge twisting language of "YABBA DABBA DOO"?

Sorry that was a little uncalled for but check out the trailer:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac

Scared the hell out of me. follow that link and watch the whole movie. Yes this shit is really happening and it can all be traced back to the Beloved Ronnie Regan.

Regan was also the turncoat in the 1950's when McCarthy s going after thoes "COMMIE SCREEN WRITERS" at the Hollywood Screen Writers Guild. His (Regan) testimony put a lot of talented people out of work, PERMENENTLY! But that's how he got ahead in life, by stepping on other people. And he claimed to be a man of virtue. Sorry, but when it comes to Regan we have to agree to disagree in a mature, secular, civilized manor.

Sorry, I can't vote you UP but once.

Hell yea!

"Sorry, but when it comes to Regan we have to agree to disagree in a mature, secular, civilized manor." I can agree with you on that and I disagree with you. You are kind of all over the place and again I could easily counter but again we would disagree.

My point about education failing started in the early 70's right after the decade of too many social revolutions gone wrong that trickled into the education system where now after spending more money per student than a small country, teaching self esteem instead of math, science, history and the like, we are 17th? Again with the busing issue spreading the poverty instead of raising up and repairing the schools that were failing we shut them down and bused students out of their element, their neighborhoods, and ended up lowing the standards for all. This in turn created the ignorance we have today.

Thanks but I think many many people voted me down..

No I was not really all over the place but I tried to keep it as short and simple as possible. If I was too vague I am sorry. All this nonsence exploded with Regan so he is the one to blame. He was the official start. That is why he is praised so highly. In reality he was NOTa great man but the most deceptive traitor this country has ever known. The sad part is that he got away with it.

school integration is not the same as racial integration. You fail in understanding the issue.

He is.

They never stopped in some places.

Racism has nothing to do with it. Stupid ignorant people that fails to comprehend an issue then pulls the card card where none exist, makes me ill.

They really came out of the closet when Obama got elected.

LOLS Bring it Nancy boy.

This is all too true Jeremy as I lived in Missouri when they started "busing" as they called it then and KC schools and the district is one of the worst in the nation as a direct result. I have seen both my high school and it's rival high school shut down completely and watched my old semi suburban area go from middle class to ghetto in a matter of 20 years. But the first thing the uninformed will scream is racism. They refuse to look any deeper into the issue than a white man speaking of urban failure.

You have stated it more eloquently than I would have but the realities of lowering expectations and forced school integrations by busing kids across the city has had disastrous effects in most of the cities that have tried it. The failure is with not improving local schools and raising expectations instead of lowering the bar so minorities have a better chance of passing. What an insult to minorities. "Hey you are too stupid and impoverished to learn so we will ship you to a better school and lower the tests you can FEEL good about yourself and we can feel like we are helping you so you will vote for us again and again"

I agree with you and for once Retsnom (below). The quality of our public schools is one of the thorniest problems we face as a nation. Most reasonable people believe that a good education is desirable for all. Not the kind that trains people how to score high on tests, and not even mere job or career preparation, but turning out well-rounded, well-read people who can think well and participate as knowledgable citizens.This is how we advance as a civilization.
The method is where we have fallen down. So many have been and are being tried. In the realm of trying to improve opportunities for minorities we haven't found a good answer. It behooves us all to see black, brown and white faces around us. Isolation by color, ethnicity or class ultimately helps no one.
On the other hand, neighborhood schools like the one I walked to in my distant youth, are a great thing. You have a connection to the other students because you see each other outside school, play at each other's houses, the moms and dads know each other, all that cozy stuff. Bussing takes kids away from the familiar, uses a lot more fuel, causes various logistical problems.
The vision by the architects of this system was mix students together regardless of demographic and the schools would even out quality-wise while the racial mix would improve everyone's views of each other.
I have no statistics but anecdotally it seems the experiment hasn't worked that great. Not all to the bad, I'm sure, but apparently not successful enough to warrant the expenditures or the fracturing of the neighborhood structure. And no matter how hard you try, no matter how much you want everybody to just get along, they don't always do that.

I'm not a mom, so all of this is theoretical to my immediate self, but I care a great deal about having an educated populace. I value my education more than anything else I possess and I want everybody to have the same or even better. I'm sure there are educators out there who may have a better model to use in further attempts at improving the quality of all schools. Some like the voucher idea. I'm deeply suspicious of this notion for way too many reasons to get into now, but I believe the public schools are worth fighting for and vouchers would be their destruction

What then? I don't know, but I'm pretty sure Sen.Dan Hall ISN'T the keeper of the secret.

I don't understand why I got upped but the people who agreed with me got firebombed down. Any one of you downers care to explain the logic behind that?

I understand your sentiment and points, but think about the problem with the urban schools now and tell me how those won't get magnified when we start trying to run large regional student concentration camps, I mean schools...this practice tho theoretically hopeful has some major draw backs. Student/teacher ratio will go on the rise. What about the additional costs of transport? It has also been proven that large concentrations of people lead to most of our social problems as well. Trying to keep the peace at larger schools is also more difficult as the cliques become larger and more sofisticated, and potentially more violent. Student gangs, teenage pregnancy, hate crimes, and poor grades are already the hallmark of over populated schools across the country.

Ah' Regional schools were very common in the 1950's and 60's as I attended one in high school. They of course end up with students who gather together with common backgrounds as they try or not to integrate among themselves. But the the concept of tolerance is far more successful in this environment than separation. The cost of educating our youth to functional adulthood should not be a second or third thought in this process. The simple fact of the matter is we are falling further and further behind the emerging and so called socialist economies of the world regarding education, environment, education, energy, and only behind Russia in Oligarchs running the country. The simple fact of the matter that is much more needs to be invested in youth not less, even if it took police patrolling halls it would be better than allowing a permanent underclass not only to exist but continue.
Social solutions rely on people of conscience to hold hard to their views when they know they are right. But what most would call leftist. As the world grows more and more populated with fewer and fewer resources the ability to cope will only grow more difficult. Technology is not going to be the cure all as many would believe. Humanity will.

I agree that education needs to be our first priority in this nation, but I still can't see bigger and cumbersome to operate school being the best option. Besides that, schools haven't needed "forced desegregation" for many years now. It's hard to find any single neighborhood anywhere in the country that is 100% from the same ethnic background anymore. There is a Deli in Queens NY thats owned by an Israili and a Palastinian! Desegregation got the push start it needed, now I think on that front its time to let nature take it's course.

I don't believe that there would be an 'underclass' as you put if we educate equally, then allow students interact with all members of society eye to eye. The disparity between races is fed by ignorance, and I hate to point this out, but we should all know by know that a large portion of our youth is ignorant, and exceptionally so when they get a large enough group to move in to herd/hive/mob mentality.

When it come to education, more is always better, but I think it's been obvious that when it comes to school and class size, smaller is better. Seriously can't think that a college campus sized sorta school setting would be any better for our younger kids then college has been for our older kids the last 20 years!

just my two cents

+^'d valid points, but those words need to get heard more by those not already in this community.

I partially agree with you, but at the same time I know many people from that man's generation and some were simply trained as youngster to be racists and have never really recovered. This racist hate festers and causes skewed points of views, and there is a likelyhood that this man actually believes what he is saying, sad as that is.

Good point. True.

Technically, if people of color are doing so poorly compared with Dan Hall's folks (white folks), and if Hall graduated with a 6th grade reading level, since white folks were so advantaged, what does this say about Hall? The take home message here is that Hall's just dumb, and I agree with you he's dumb enough to believe what he's saying.

But he's being told what to believe and say by others. The people behind ol' Dan are the ones who are pulling the strings. Dan's a puppet, and in the words of John Ehrlichman, it's easy to hang a puppet - the strings are already there. Somebody ask Hall whose boots he's licking and go after them. Forget Hall.

I agree, replace this poor fool, however whats with the push for a mixed gay to fill in his seat? That sounds like agenda pushing, I would settle with just someone who is competent and compassionate...

lol.. i was actually being sarcastic with that part... i forgot to put minority as well! lol.. figures they wouldn't like the total package... hahahahaha...

Leave the second amendment outta this, giving up that right leads us even farther from being able to throw off the yoke of an oppressive government that uses fear and violence to maintain it's power...sounds kinda like today don't it?

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Thats the second ammendment, what exactly do you have against it?

Now now, there words are "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms". I believe every person on the planet should have the right to possess items intended for self defense. I do agree there needs to be some more framework here, on what weapons exactly aren't for defense and are simply aggressive, offensive weaponry like assault rifle, SMG's et cetera. The real question to me is, can the people who this 'right' applies to grow up enough in and of themselves to not have to use thier rights... I don't any firearms now, nor will I mostlikely own one in the remotely near future, but I tell you what, I will support anyone's claim to a need for self defense, especially with the turmoil and economic instability in the world ATM.

So I guess the genocide we committed upon the NATIVE American Indians, just doesn't count in his little pig brain. So This asshat thinks that he was put on this continent in a divine moment of superiority.
We've done such a bang up job with the gifts we were given in the country and completely trashed and this asshole think he has the audacity that he's superior to everyone on the planet?

What a Mu-ther-fuk-ehr.

All the indigenous natives I know just shake thier heads at all of this and are patiently waiting for the white, black, brown, and yellow people kill themselves off so they can return to thier way of life....eerily they seem to act like this isn't the first time they've seen this happen.

Ready for some rare words? I agree with what 2helena has to say, well mostly. Small local community schools are the only real answer. Students loose focus in too large a classroom. Teachers can't give the time individual students need if they are outnumbered 50+ to 1.

I hate this "diversify" argument because thats what America is to start with, diverse.
Who here has been through Harlem lately? Or Chicago's China Town? Or Little Havana in Miami? All of the places that used to be "racially" pure are no longer. There's whites and vietnamese living in Harlem, while Muslims are hawking produce in China Town...Diversification of our students has already happened, and at a natural and unforced pace.

Forced culture exposure can lead to culture clashes. How ever if you let these individual cultures develope in the freedom and compassion found in America they will, are, and have joined with the rest of society at the points they are comfortable with, and taking any group outta thier comfort zone can be dangerous.

can't argue with you there

i guess these stupid teabaggers fail to realize that the north will win again!!!! (LOL)

Unions rule!!! :-)) +^'d

This isnt north vs south, or left vs right, or even right vs wrong... this particular issue is a matter of thinking vs. unthinking....which do you want to be?

I really do believe the GOP wants another Civil War look around at what is happening in the states they have gone after: the gays, the blacks,the browns,women,elderly, middle-class, the poor and education to push through their radical agendas.

You realize that Minnesota isn't actually part of the bible belt correct?

Good Morning, I was unaware of that.