Community | April 06, 2011 | 26 comments

Melting Glaciers More Than Just a Name Change for Glacier National Park

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Summary: Dan Fagre, a research ecologist at the Northern Rocky Mountain Science Center of the United States Geological Survey, speaks with Earthjustice staffer Jessica Knoblauch. Over the past 15 years, Fagre has worked to understand how climate change will affect mountain ecosystems such as Glacier National Park, the cornerstone of the Crown of the Continent ecosystem and a major focus of Earthjustice's litigation. Scientists like Fagre predict that, due to rising temperatures, Glacier National Park will be glacier free by 2030.


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26 comments // Melting Glaciers More Than Just a Name Change for Glacier National Park

  • Wetdog
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      Wetdog  
    • Glacier NP has always been my favorite of them all.

      It is sad to think of it dying.

      Goodbye old friend. I love you.

    • 1 year ago
  • HarukoHaruhara
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    • At Many Glacier Hotel, they have an amazing photo essay along the hallways of the hotel, showing photos of the glaciers from 1900 and photos from the 2000s. Startling difference. Some of the glaciers have completely disappeared. Many are less than 10 percent of what they once were.

    • 1 year ago
  • coolplanet
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    • Why are we waiting for governments to do something about this?
      Why do we think lawsuits can possibly help?
      Scientists have been telling us for decades that we can stabilize the climate by planting billions of fast growing trees which each suck CO2 out of the air by as much as 100 pounds per year.
      But we aren't doing it (on a scale that matters anyway).
      Even with escallating deforestation and carbon emissions if every person on Earth just planted and tended one tree that would be 7 billion trees!
      We need to plant about a trillion trees to cancel our collective carbon footprint.
      Why is this so hard for us to understand or accomplish without government help?

    • 1 year ago
  • IceKat
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      IceKat  
    • coolplanet:

      This isn't difficult to understand, in fact it is very easy to understand. The only problem with it is it's a heap of rubbish. Fine, if you're convinced that increasing CO2 makes the world a terrible place, but that theory has no legs, it's all but dead. If you want more trees, more greenery in general then the best thing you could hope for is some free fertiliser, CO2 fits the bill perfectly. You refer to yourself as a gardener so you should be more than clued up on the benefits of CO2 on plants.
      Deforestation needs to be addressed, I totally agree with you there, but being sucked into believing CO2 = evil is absolute madness.

    • 1 year ago
  • coolplanet
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    • IceKat:

      Being a gardener I know bullshit when I see it.
      Most plants stop transpiring CO2 into oxygen and H20 over 80 degrees F and begin expiring CO2.
      Plants also don't like to be overfertilized, if you can call the heavy metals and radioactive coal ash that spews out of tail pipes and power plants "fertilizer."
      Ever hear of acid rain which comes from fossil fuel emissions? Acid rain is killing our forests and oceans even faster than we are hacking them down and slicking them with oil.
      But you deniars have an excuse for your stupidity now. You have less gray matter as studies show.
      Sorry Mom!

    • 1 year ago
  • IceKat
  • coolplanet
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    • IceKat:

      First I'm talking temperature, not parts-per-million CO2, when it comes to vegetation. Most plants stop sequestering carbon and producing oxygen over 80 degrees F, as I said.
      Secondly, the carbon that comes out of smoke stacks and tail pipes contains heavy metals, radioactive ash, ozone and acids which are very harmful to plants, animals and oceans.
      But keep trying. Maybe some day you'll get it.

    • 1 year ago
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  • gypsysailor
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      gypsysailor  
    • I was up there in the 90's along with my step dad and he remarked then how much the glaciers had receded. He's no longer with us but I know he would really be saddened by this change.

    • 1 year ago
  • ReMarker
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      ReMarker  
    • I want a political party to be strong and honorable enough to make sure America has the best government on the planet. In modern times, Republican politicians have made our government worse. The only political party strong enough to stop Republicans from continuing their destruction of America are the Democrats, BUT the Dems. need to clean house too!!!

      Example: Seventeen dirty Democrats join Senate GOP Climate Zombies.
      http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2011/04/06/seventeen-dirty-democrats/

    • 1 year ago
  • UtopianSky
  • littlwarrior
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    • Its really sad to know we are looseing these landmarks. I grew up in Montana not too far south of Glacier and this to me is just really really sad. We did this to ourselves, yet those who carry the largest share of the responsibility feel the least amount of the burden.

    • 1 year ago
  • EthicalVegan
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      EthicalVegan  
    • littlwarrior:

      Miss Krueger...

      When I was in maybe 4th or 5th grade, I had this incredible geography teacher who had traveled (by car or train) to all the United States' national parks. She was the first teacher to have a deep impact on me, and obviously I never forgot her... even 50+ years later.

      Glacier National Park was her number one favorite, and she filled my young brain with so much passion to visit there myself, one day. Any time in my life that I've subsequently been to a national park (and ofttimes repeatedly), I think of Miss Krueger with tremendous gratitude. She seemed to me, when I was that little, to already be "an old lady," so she must be gone a very long time... but she's still in my heart.

    • 1 year ago
  • EthicalVegan
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  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • EthicalVegan:

      I've never seen any of that in person, nor did my sons. All we did was survive, trusting that one day God was going to give us it forever. I invented many engine systems to protect what I had never seen though and they were all stopped.

      Some people think our Bible beliefs are imaginary, but over the years I've been given many insights into deep things of God few people know about, so their faithless ranting has little force. I know my Hope is real and they know very little.

      The Meek? They really are going to inherit the earth. And the earth they inherit will exceed these pictures. Not to mention that living forever we will have all the time in the world plus a day to stop and enjoy them to the very hilt, without the idiots around to be causing wars.

      Thanks for posting!

      Ya know, when I first started studying the Bible in earnest back in 1968 I read something rather silly and I wondered about its meaning. It said "God's tent would be with Mankind". It's in Revelation 21. Even today it still sounds real silly but, a few months ago God gave me the insight even at this late date in my life to understand what it means.

      Tents means moving around. God is going to visit US, not so much us having to always travel somewhere else for a JW convention or assembly. That is just a small part of what His spirit has shown me, and if you guys miss the train you should know the train you missed is no ordinary train. It's a train to Glory => Glory living, Glory life, Glory everything.

      What we will never get from Satan's kingdom we will get a-plenty from Jesus' kingdom, and very soon. The clock has just about arrived and it didn't come from Obama.

      All these glaciers being melted down like so much slag is sad if you think Jesus isn't coming, but Scripture tells us he is already here (Parousia = Presence, not Coming) and has been here a long time. He has had to delay for all the good people to exit their crummy governments and come seeking his rulership.

      If your feet don't start moving soon you miss the train. And more for those who were smart enough to not miss it.

    • 1 year ago
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  • EthicalVegan
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      EthicalVegan  
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      Wolverines are dependent on snow pack for denning, although they have many other adaptations to cold weather and snow that give them an advantage over other smaller carnivores.

      (Photo: Gerald and Buff Corsi / California Academy of Sciences)

    • 1 year ago
  • EthicalVegan
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      Pika, a low rock rabbit, may not be so lucky.

      Scientists originally had a lack of historical population data on the animal. (Photo: naturepicsonline)

    • 1 year ago
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