Clerk Kathy Nickolaus’ Fuzzy Math Doesn’t Add Up in Wisconsin Race
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It’s my understanding that Microsoft Access does an automatic save while it’s being used, but I have to question why any clerk is being allowed to keep votes only on her computer, refuses to share them on the county computers, and trusts her own inputting of numbers that she doesn’t save, especially with her track record of criminal investigations and reprimands from county officials regarding the failure of security in her procedures. Kathy goes way back with the Republican Party, and this isn’t her first go at electioneering, if you will, on behalf of the party. Kathy seems at best incompetent, but since all of her errors benefit only one party, it begs the question of whether or not she is engaging in fraudulent activities. In either case, I’m unclear as to why she has been entrusted with the votes of taxpaying citizens.
To add to all of that, a friend of mine who happens to be an attorney did some math on the Wisconsin situation, and Nickolaus’ numbers don’t add up. He sent me the following breakdown, to which I’ve added editorial information. According to the 2010 census, there are 38,649 living in Brookfield. Of these Male 48.4% Female 51.6%, Median Age 42.
Most of the media has been focusing on the 38,649 number, which — given a 33% turnout over all — would yield about the 14,000 votes reported. This makes sense, and certainly Kathy Nickolaus knows how to break up demographics having made the computer program that breaks apart voting trends in different counties for the Republican Party.
But the voting age and over population for Brookfield is 73.2%. This yields a possible voting base of 28,291. Registered voters? Doesn’t matter. Wisconsin allows folks to register on the day of the elections.
So, let’s assume all of the 28,291 were registered. The figures don’t add up: Statewide turnout —and in the rest of Waukesha county — was 33%. Even assuming that all 28,291 over the age of 18 were registered voters, that 33% turnout — which was reported as very high — would have yielded no more than 9,430 votes.
But Kathy Nickalous reported 14,315 votes, a surprising 53% increase of a voting surge, for that one city — over the rest of Wisconsin and from Wuukesha County — from 33% to 50.5%
And in Brookfield, at least 75% of that total had to choose incumbent David Prosser against 25% for challenger Joan Klopenberg to reach just beyond the .5% margin to avoid a mandatory recount.
I’m sorry, but the places we were likely to see the most motivated voters were not in conservative areas; this is proven in the recall efforts, for example, as well as by the shifts in rural areas that went for Walker in 2010. Emily Mills reported for the Daily Isthmus:
In fact, some of the strongest support for Kloppenburg came from places like rural Ashland, Bayfield, Douglas, and Iron Counties up north. In total, 32 counties straight-up went to Kloppenburg, and even in counties that favored Prosser, several did so in much smaller numbers than they’d done in the primaries, indicating a serious shift away from the incumbent in the wake of Walker’s union-busting and the wave of protests.
So, areas that went for Walker flipped to Kloppenburg and areas that went for Prosser had lower numbers than they did in the primaries. Voter enthusiasm on the conservative side was down. The most motivated voters are the people who are the most threatened by the anti-union bill, and those voters turned out to vote for Kloppenburg. So I can’t buy this surge in voter turnout that is higher than any other county in Wisconsin. I can, however, buy that 75% of the voters went for Prosser in that county, even if it’s a bit of a stretch.
But what strains credulity the most is the perfect number that got them over the hump of a state paid recall, coming from an error from a clerk’s computer who has already been involved in a criminal investigation, was involved in an audit in 2010 in which she refused to abide by the suggestions of how to make her office more secure, and a person who was the GOP computer analyst for the GOP assembly, and as such, Prosser was her boss for a period.
There has been a systemic effort by the Wisconsin GOP to achieve the passage of their anti-union bill even when it involved ignoring a judge’s orders two times, locking people out of the Capital, and violating the very important open meetings law.
http://www.politicususa.com/en/wisconsin-math
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Paratus
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The revelation of this sure has put a damper on posts about Wisconsin. Funny how that works.
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Paratus
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bike10
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She gradauted from the Kathleen Harris School of how to count ballots.
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bike10
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Cruzankenny
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So, by counties there was a 20% spread, but in one area there was a 300% difference and this just happened to be the one mishandled?
Prosser should buy a Powerball ticket there!!! - 1 year ago
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Cruzankenny
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sageohio
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one thing no one has brought up about the so-called 14,000 votes. if 7,500 went to Prosser wouldnt that mean 6.500 went to Kloppenburg. that's closer than the 7,319 lead that they gave Prosser if Kloppenburg was leading before they found them.
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sageohio
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Leen61
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First of all, anyone using election methodology presented by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel's Craig Gilbert is relying on very questionable information. The JS has become a very right leaning propaganda source (they endorsed David Prosser!), Charlie Sykes, who was one of the sources of the new election results, works for the JS. These are far from impartial contributers. I would even question Nate Silver's methodology because of the fact this election was not political business as usual. It warrents a full scale investigation regardless.
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Leen61
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Andy_Williams
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I do love fiction!
First of all, let's put the numbers out there before you lead more sheep to think you have a point. If she won 32 counties, that means Prosser won 40. Second, the magic number for a recall as a reason why this total is suspicious? LOL, by now you can likely see the folly of your logic. If someone was going to make a concerted effort to commit voter fraud and force the other candidate to pay for a recount, why not double the fraud to put it far over the required number? Right now, the total difference between the candidates is under 7k votes. That means the state will be paying for the recall.
Second, while there was motivation to vote against Prosser, there was motivation to vote for Prosser. Mostly because we knew that this race was being treated as a proxy against our governor, and, Kloppenburg's lack of class in reference to a victim of sexual assault. If you did any analyzation, you'd find not only did Prosser win more counties, but that he also did better than Walker in many of those areas.
Third, Waukesha County is notorious for high voter turnout. 33%? LOL, maybe in your apathetic area, but not in Waukesha. This county turned out nearly 47% of its voters for this election, and that isn't a surprise. Even the Chair of the county Democrat Party acknowledged the truth of the matter.
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Andy_Williams
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ZiggyStrange
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Andy_Williams:
I specially like fiction written by socks created for specific stories.
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ZiggyStrange
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Cruzankenny
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Andy_Williams:
I believe you speak of the vice-chair and I don't feel it was unequivocal.
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Cruzankenny
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Leen61
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Here's a video of a rally that took place Friday in Madison regarding the stolen WI Supreme Court election.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_dhzzX9Puc&feature=player_embedded
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Leen61
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scooter3282
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Leen61:
Great stuff, Lenn. A perfect example of how the people of WI are not going to just roll over and take this right-wing corporate takeover of our state. If this is where the Koch's want to do battle, we're up for the fight. I hope they get very, very bloody before this is all over. My bet is that they will.
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scooter3282
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Leen61
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scooter3282:
Thanks, scooter. WI can not roll over on this one.
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Leen61
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spotlighting
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Don't under stand why the US Gov doesn't get involved in the vote total in Wisconsin. Seems we go into other countries to oversee elections.
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spotlighting
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Leen61
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spotlighting:
Is that the truth!
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Leen61
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GrannyLib
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This literally stinks!
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GrannyLib
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Persecuted
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so what does this mean? is this going to be investigated or are they just going to give it to prosser?
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Persecuted
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Leen61
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Persecuted:
Investigators from the WI state elections board (a non-partisan committee of retired judges) is on their way to begin an investigation. I'll keep you posted.
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Leen61
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VoyagerFilms
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I'd suggest she likely eliminated votes for Kloppenburg if she's been tampering and considering her methodology, there's only one reason for it, she's screwing the people, imo
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asocial
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VoyagerFilms:
I agree, though I would add that it's just as likely she is counting votes by registered republican voters who didn't vote in this election. That would explain the amazing voter turnout in Waukesha county compared with the rest of the state.
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asocial
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MAssappeal
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Thank you for breaking down the evidence for us, but it's criminally absurd that anyone is taking this woman's word in the first place. Oh, I just deleted the voting stats for the county, but it's alright, I'll just dictate them to you essentially off the top of my head. Why does the number 14315 stick in my mind? If this is the way they plan to subvert democracy they've clearly been caught napping before the big meeting.
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MAssappeal
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wolfess
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MAssappeal:
Why does the number 14315 stick in my mind?
That's what I've been wondering about too -- if she magically found 14,315 votes with 7500 going to Prosser, that nets Kloppenburg 6800+; when you add the 200 she had b4 Nickolaus' sleight of hand/computer that's less than 500 votes that separate them.
Is Nickolaus that stupid, or does she think we are?
This time she needs to go to prison. - 1 year ago
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wolfess
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MAssappeal
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wolfess:
yes! But I don't think she was the lone orchestrator by any means. She strikes me as a moderately competent ideologue who was more than happy to do whatever foolish thing she was able to do to make sure her former boss won in the face of this big lefty menace. Not totally unlike a whole lot of other americans who think it's their patriotic duty to do whatever's in their means to do, illegal, unconstitutional, against all notions of good civics, to ensure the outcome they want.
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MAssappeal
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wolfess
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MAssappeal:
I agree that she wasn't the only one behind this -- the kochtopus has too many tentacles in too many places for me to believe they DIDN'T have something to do with this. Besides, if they offered her a modest amt of money to do this she might be thinking that money would be there when she got out of prison; or she could be thinking they and Prosser would protect her yet again (based on the info that has been coming out about her past transgressions).
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wolfess
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Andy_Williams
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wolfess:
I'm gonna try to correct your understanding of the vote totals, but ain't holding out too much hope.
The votes weren't found, they were always with the municipal clerk. Nickolaus is not the Brookfield's clerk, she is the county clerk and, as such, doesn't have control of the ballots.
No one said that Prosser received 7500 votes from that total, he received 7500+ votes MORE than she did out of that vote total. Meaning that while he had aout 10750 votes, she only had 3250
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Andy_Williams
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Danny_Mcstotts
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I hope this ends up being some kind of walker work
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Danny_Mcstotts
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Toughth
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Danny_Mcstotts:
Found a real good scapgoat in case the found votes dont add up.
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Toughth
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Andy_Williams
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Danny_Mcstotts:
nah, it's even more diabolical than that! It was the voters!
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Andy_Williams
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ZiggyStrange
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The entire thing is hard to believe. She keeps the voting records on her computer, no way this is legit. The numbers don't add up. +^d
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ZiggyStrange
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Andy_Williams
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ZiggyStrange:
She keeps them on the county's personal computer, you know a "PC." It wasn't her private computer, or anything of the sort. They were kept on a personal computer that belonged to the county.
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Andy_Williams
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ZiggyStrange
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Andy_Williams:
Well Andy I think you assumed I assumed something.
I didn't think her PC was in "her" den.Votes are legal instruments. They require special handling. I would be willing to bet you money, the process for counting, storing, reporting, and protecting the integrity of the votes has not been followed in this case. I guess we will see.
Bu then again it is in Wisconsin "You Know" the place where the law doesn't apply to Republican officials.
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letsliveinpeace
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She needs to resign now.
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letsliveinpeace
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gypsysailor
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I am surprised that the people of Wisconsin are not up in arms about this. It took 2 days for the republicans to come up with enough numbers to steal this election. If this were your state would any of you be out in the streets?
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gypsysailor
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gump
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gypsysailor:
The streets are the wrong place to be . Some one should be up the ass of the bad guys. Parades are for targets. Why should we continue to be thier easy targets. Time for the wind to blow. Reset us back to democray. It really was there two hundred years ago. We didnot get feedom then by marching around painting TARGET HERE on our selves. We must TARGET the bad guys. Dont be afraid. When you are as good as dead it is time to fight. If we dont fight we are going to be dead. It is time to fight. Human death is thier goal. We are the humans. Dead meat if we dont act now. They are pushing hard all across the board. We must push back hard befor we are crushed beneath the dosers blades, We must turn the machines around. Hide food. Buy guns. Watch. Be aware. Dont show yourself. Proceed to choose carefully. X MARINE
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gump
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gypsysailor:
Even the chair of the democratic party of Waukesha County has said the results are right. She wasn't happy about it, but she was there to verify it for herself. The drama, and that's all it is, is put on so that the dems can get their base focused on some perceived wrong.
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Andy_Williams
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gypsysailor
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Rigged elections that most of us have lived through. Florida in 2000. Ohio in 2004. And now Wisconsin in 2011. Tar and feathers and a good blood letting would stop this nonsense.
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gypsysailor
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Toughth
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gypsysailor:
Just tar and feathers with a rail.
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Toughth
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jubal
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Clearly from her criminal record in rigging elections, she is guilty of rigging this one in favor of Prosser. These type of GOP members are complete slime balls.
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jubal
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Cruzankenny
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You have to write a script in order to work around Access' auto save function. If she did that, that would be malicious and I would like to hear her reasoning.
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Cruzankenny
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gump
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Cruzankenny:
I dont care to hear excuses and lies from the bad guys pons anymore. The time to squable over listening to the sound of crap slithering out of the bad guys orifice is over.
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gump
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Andy_Williams
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Cruzankenny:
Or maybe this was a program provided by the GAB, oh wait, it was! So you are familiar with the functions provided by the GAB? No, then get real, you don't know anything!
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Andy_Williams
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Cruzankenny
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Andy_Williams:
Wow!!! You mean I can go from knowing nothing to knowing, what? Everything? Something? Maybe just useful things? My goodness, if I just learned about the services provided by the Wisconsin GAB I would be a genius?
Do you know about the GAB and the services it provides? If you do, then that's disappointing, because you didn't learn manners or any of those other things that allow one to have an interaction with others of your species in a civilized manner.
Then again, we might not be the same species. Were you born on this planet? If so, do you have an original, certified and officially witnessed document that proves this assertion? Do your supposed parental entities have the same?
Maybe the Wisconsin GAB provides those services!! - 1 year ago
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Cruzankenny
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ZiggyStrange
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Andy_Williams:
I didn't know the Government Accountability Board gave out Access function packs that disable autosave. You are just brimming with useful information aren't you. Why don't you go a step further and give us a link to the GAB info on how votes are processed in Wisconsin. please include the functions in the GAB packs.
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zoomy1
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I would think that the LAW and ORDER party people would welcome a through investigation into this whole fiasco. After all, they KNOW with out a doubt that nothing hinky went on,so, a complete forensic investigation would only vindicate them. As they are fond of saying, "If you ain't got nothin' to hide, then you ain't got nothin' to fear".
Oh, and please don't whine about the cost, because, really,cant you put a price on justice?...really? ...can ya?
No, of course,not. - 1 year ago
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Richard_Wyatt
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the gop will piss on democracy and democratic principles every chance they get
i don't trust her in the least - 1 year ago
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Richard_Wyatt
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crash_text_dummy
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mmm... another case of incest
seems to be rampant in the republican party... - 1 year ago
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ptr23
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There's not much info about an investigation, but I was able to find this link:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chibrknews-wis-lawmaker-asks-a...
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ptr23
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Leen61
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At the very least, there should be a detailed investigation of what went on. This could crack wide open the systematic theft of elections by the right wing. It is a assult on Democracy itself. This must be exposed, once and for all. If WI does not do an indepth investigation, the future of fair elections in any state is in danger.
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Leen61
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ReMarker
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The destroy America people will NOT win.
Are you listening congoboy, Paratus, Warren_Merrill, etc.
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ReMarker
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PigFarmington
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This is going completely unmentioned in the mainstream media here in Milwaukee. They've actually have seemed to written-off the possibility of wrong doing, and Nickolaus' incompetence in general. I could do anything but laugh this morning when TMJ4 interviewed Prossor...get this. Are you ready.....? He is okay with the mix-up and has no doubt they're legitimate. She just made an error. I can't fucking believe it. Really? You're okay with this?! Stop the fucking presses!
Just looking a Processor, he probably thinks Microsoft Access is the password you use to log into your computer. That's if he knows what a laptop is. - 1 year ago
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PigFarmington:
Disgusting! All Prosser cares about is winning at any cost. Typical Rep.
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Leen61
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CalPal
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Why am I not surprised to hear this?
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CalPal
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chrisntom
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LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE GOT CAUGHT AGIN..
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SoCalFramer
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When are the voters going to wake up and identify the people who steal elections. Is it after the election has been stolen ? In this case yes. Wisconsin are you waking up, someone has stolen your goverment. It can happen anywhere, Florida 2000, Ohio 2004, Wisconsin 2008, I am sure it has happened more then we know about. I am at a loss of what to do but I am paying attention and will be volunteering as a poll watcher from now on. There should be attorneys at all vote counting stations during elections, one from each party.
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Slfriend79
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Kathy Nickolaus math isn't just fuzzy, it's the math they used on 'Bizarro World'! #bangingheadondesk
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Stoneyroad
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Deja Vu . . . It's Katherine Harris all over again.
Every time the GOP needs to steel an election there is always a "Kathy" waiting in the wings of government to hand them the victory at the last second.
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Stoneyroad:
You got that right! Thanks for posting the video.
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Leen61
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Paratus
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All of a sudden liberals are concerned about the honesty of a vote. This is a momentous occasion indeed. These things will be recounted more times than the hanging chads. By the time the dust settles on this issue all the people concerned will have long since retired.
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Paratus:
Clearly, you've never used Access. As the author states in the article, Access auto-saves when data is entered. Her lame excuse of not saving only makes sense to those unfamiliar with how it works. I'm sure she knows this as well and I expect a different excuse in the coming days to account for this discrepancy.
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Paratus:
All of the sudden? For the last 11 years we've become more and more convinced it's the norm.
When the right can't 'fix' the election, they start rumors and spread lies about the winners eligibility for office. - 1 year ago
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The dumb bitch explains what happened. She sucks and should not be in charge of counting bananas at the zoo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTw0wtUPow4&NR=1 - 1 year ago
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BenjaminDover:
When I 1st saw this, two things come to mind.
1st: Why is she so frigidity?
2nd: Why is she already on the defense?I'm just pissed at the local media here in Milwaukee. They are not discussing who this woman is, and are accepting the "fact" that it was an error.
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Leen61
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PigFarmington:
I'm disgusted as well, PF, about the local media's performance. I saw this clip on Rachel Maddow first! When I saw this, I thought Kathy was going to shit her pants. She knows damn well if there is an investigation, she could be looking at felony charges and a lengthy prison term. You wonder who is holding the gun to her head.
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Leen61
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Leen61:
I wonder who is paying her.
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MAssappeal
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BenjaminDover:
good thing she had that script, huh?
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MAssappeal
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Leen61
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outofbounds:
I got a pretty good guess that it's the Koch suckers or one of their operatives.
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Leen61
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ithink
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You can have the brightest math people in the world come and add up a column of figures and that only tells you the totals in the column is correct.The only way to remove all doubt is to have a special election with the state election board to oversee it that way it would be the people of Brookfield verifying yes that is how they voted
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ithink
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lazloman
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ithink:
You know who voted. They're on the rolls. Canvas some of those people. Some may lie to support Walker, but many won't. As soon as you start finding folks who say they didn't vote, but are accounted for as voting, you'll know what's up.
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lazloman
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BenjaminDover
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You can't hand in your homework a day late and expect it to count. And this cunt taking a few days beyond the election to "find" votes on her personal computer is bullshit. It should not be a matter of whether these were the actual votes or not (beyond the criminal investigation into election fraud), those votes should be tossed out for being late.
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thatguy27
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OK, who didn't see this coming? Kathy Nicholaus was always Walker's ace in the hole...It seems she is good at crying 'human error' while throwing elections to republicans...hopefully she doesn't get away with it this time.
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artemis6
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She was the Koch brothers ace in the hole .
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Warren_Merrill
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Democratic Party County Vice Chair verifies Waukesha numbers are correct.
Go to 13 minute mark for the question. She comes on at 13:30. - 1 year ago
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When one takes things that don't belong to them it is stealing, stealing is a crime! What Kathy Nicholaus did was to steal from the people from WI! The key issue I bet she will get a raise in stead of JAIL time! While the GAB has it eye on her actions, she is merely a con artist to distract from a THEFT from some where else. Remember the movie the STING with Redford and Newman? What idiot allowed this pattern of behavior to occur. GAB should hire John Allen Paulos and yes to use stolen evidence to validate a election is batty, crazy, daffy, laughable, loony to say the lease. Her boss or bosses should do jail time!
This was well thought out well in advanced, there is always backup plans not less than 3 if not more. Just follow the money, Just follow the money. Find a criminal investigator that does not have less than %40 clearance rate on crime against property. The best national average %9-15. - 1 year ago
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Verify1st:
Are you saying no one voted in Brookfield. Zero was the correct number?
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Warren_Merrill:
You could be absolutely correct and there is no voter fraud. BUT, you have to admit it is suspicious, especially in light of the political significance of this race. An investigation is warranted regardless of the "plausibility" of those numbers being accurate. Would you not agree to that?
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hammywill:
Somewhere I posted an article from the MJS (jsonline) the state is sending an investigative team. Even if it's an honest mistake they wouldn't want someone in the future to think they could pull off a wink wink honest mistake without being investigates. Since everyone in the process has a political affiliation it's warranted to investigate.
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hammywill
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Warren_Merrill:
You're right, I saw that too. Mistake or no...just to insure fairness an investigation has to be launched.
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lightningthunderfox
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someone call chris farley and gary busey
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lightningthunderfox
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Warren_Merrill
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Brookfield's totals, turnout are consistent
Supreme Court race results, which once-missing votes, align with usual patterns
By Craig Gilbert of the Journal Sentinel
The "Brookfield Bombshell" - the sudden appearance of thousands of decisive ballots in the state Supreme Court race - invites all sorts of obvious questions and suspicions about politics and incompetence.
But do the voting figures look fishy from a purely numerical standpoint? Are they implausible on their face based on what we know about the turnout history of Brookfield and Waukesha County compared with other places?
Not at first glance.
The new figures put the total vote in the city of Brookfield at 14,315. Brookfield has a voting-age population in the 2010 census of 29,007. So that would make its April 5 turnout equal to 49.4% of voting-age adults.
That number is 15 points higher than the statewide turnout of roughly 34%, but there is nothing odd about that. Brookfield is a high-turnout community in a high-turnout county. Last fall, Brookfield had a rather amazing turnout of 73% of voting-age adults, which was 23 points higher than the statewide turnout of 50% of voting-age adults.
The 49% Brookfield turnout is also higher than the overall turnout in Brookfield's home county, Waukesha, which would equal 42% of voting-age adults, using the adjusted returns. That's consistent with what happened last fall, when Brookfield's turnout was about nine points higher than the turnout rate in Waukesha County as a whole.
Nor would a 49% turnout rate in Brookfield be out of line with other upscale communities that have high voting rates, according to calculations based on 2010 census data and the still unofficial voting returns from Tuesday.
The city of Madison turnout was roughly the same as Brookfield's - about 49%.
Some Milwaukee County suburbs had higher turnout rates than Brookfield, including Whitefish Bay (59%), Shorewood (51%) and Fox Point (56%). Others were lower, such as Wauwatosa (48%) and Franklin (40%).
Not so big a drop
Before the new votes were added, Waukesha County was an outlier in one sense. It had shown by far the largest drop-off in turnout between the 2010 race for governor last fall and Tuesday's judicial race (from about 63% to 37%, for a decline of 26 points). After the adjustment, the drop-off in turnout is still one of the biggest in the state (from 63% to 42%), but not freakishly so. The statewide decline in turnout was only 16 points.The addition of the new votes raised Waukesha's turnout rate from 37% to 42%, which brings it more closely in line with the neighboring GOP strongholds of Ozaukee (44% turnout) and Washington (41%) counties.
One important note about the numbers: All the turnout statistics used here are based on the percentage of voting-age adults who cast ballots - not the percentage of registered voters who cast ballots. The two are not comparable.
Local election clerks typically report turnout rates based on the share of registered voters, which means those turnout percentages are going to be significantly higher. But using turnout figures based on voting-age adults has distinct advantages: It's how the state of Wisconsin measures turnout; it's much easier to compare turnout levels over time and among states and localities; and it more accurately reflects the population of eligible voters in Wisconsin, since this state has same-day registration, meaning people can still vote without registering prior to the election day.
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Warren_Merrill
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Schnookums
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Warren_Merrill:
Thank you for the detailed analysis. I was going to do it myself eventually, but just hadn't gotten around to it. While I appreciate that the sudden 'find' of votes in a razor-thin election seems suspicious, the results themselves are not unexpected (especially for that county).
I had mentioned on another thread that instead of Wisconsin's progressive voters turning their attention to a likely losing battle of hashing over a statistically even race, they should take this as a wake-up call that we are nowhere near convincing the electorate that our viewpoint is the just and correct viewpoint to take.
I fear that if progressives continue to point to this election as proof of a surging tide of sentiment, they are going to get their asses handed to them when it comes to recall elections.
- 1 year ago
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Schnookums
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gump
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Warren_Merrill:
Republicans are anti human terrorists. We did not expect an honest election. And we did not get an honest election. The results of this election means life or death to thousands of honest working class humans who have made your world a place worth liveing in. When you stand up for this attempt to murder you are guilty yourself. Be ashamed. Repent. Or consume your strangely flavored koolaide and die went its your turn. When they come around to targeting you. And they will target you. When the pool of survivors gets smaller you will look like easier prey. Republicans do not care for solutions to problems. They are fools enabling organized crime to take everything even life itself away from the people who do the real work in this country. Stop supporting your own future killers. You have been on the side that is against you. Get off it before they off you.
- 1 year ago
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gump
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Warren_Merrill
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Schnookums:
I agree. The coming recalls need to have the appearance of a viable cause, not vengence.
- 1 year ago
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Seauvan
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Wait a minute! If I remember correctly, YOU DON'T USE ANY SAVE COMMAND AFTER MAKING ENTRIES IN MS ACCESS data view or form view! CHANGES ARE SAVED AUTOMATICALLY when you leave a field in a record and go to the next one! So what changes did Nickolaus go back and make? What was she really saving?
Her excuse, by itself, should be grounds for an investigation.
- 1 year ago
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Seauvan
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nanac
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Kathy had the same funny expression on her face that George Bush, and Condoleezza Rice had on their faces after they stole the 2000 election from Al Gore.
- 1 year ago
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nanac
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twinite
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And here I thought it was her fuzzy ethics.
- 1 year ago
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twinite
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Milieu
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The Left's most trusted Pollster believes the story, unfortunately.
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Vote-Counting Error In Wisconsin Points to Incompetence, Not Conspiracy
By NATE SILVER"Here again, Waukesha County’s expected turnout falls between its original and revised figures. But again the fit is not terribly strong, so this represents a rougher guess than we get from using the 2010 data.
A better way to think about this is in terms of a 95 percent confidence interval, or margin of error. For instance, based on the 2010 data, we’d estimate that Waukesha County’s turnout should have been 51.5 percent, plus or minus 7.8 percent, meaning that there was a 95 percent chance that the true figure was in the range of 43.7 percent to 59.3 percent. The original turnout estimate, 42.3 percent, falls outside this range, meaning that we can be fairly confident that something unusual (like failing to count an entire city’s ballots) had occurred...
If this was a conspiracy, it was one executed with an extraordinarily high degree of cunning and competence. I’m more inclined to think that Ms. Nickolaus, who has drawn complaints for her sloppy management practices in the past, is no savvier than she seems.
If you’re still not persuaded, you’re welcome to play around with the data yourself, which you can download as an MS-Excel file here."
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/04/08/vote-counting-error-in-wisco...
- 1 year ago
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Milieu
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hammywill
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Milieu:
No one should ever trust a "pollster" regardless of ideology.
- 1 year ago
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hammywill
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asocial
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Milieu:
Your stats are skewed! This was not a federal congressional election year like 2010 so the vote percentage is considerably less.
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asocial
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KB723
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Someone's Got some Splainin' to Do!!!!
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KB723
