Community | April 10, 2011 | 130 comments

Obama ready to frame compromise with Republicans (again) on Wednesday this week.

source: http://robertreich.org/post/4467669419

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Schnookums
Why the Right-Wing Bullies Will Hold The Nation Hostage Again and Again -

By Robert Reich -

When I was a small boy I was bullied more than most, mainly because I was a foot shorter than than everyone else. They demanded the cupcake my mother had packed in my lunchbox, or, they said, they’d beat me up. After a close call in the boy’s room, I paid up. Weeks later, they demanded half my sandwich as well. I gave in to that one, too. But I could see what was coming next. They’d demand everything else. Somewhere along the line I decided I’d have a take a stand. The fight wasn’t pleasant. But the bullies stopped their bullying.

I hope the President decides he has to take a stand, and the sooner the better......

Continue at:
http://robertreich.org/post/4467669419





The same sentiments are also evident over at Alternet:

Obama to Deliver Major Speech on Debt Reduction -- Is He Caving to the GOP?

By Steve Benen

President Obama will deliver a major speech this week about plans to reduce federal budget deficits and long-term debt, senior adviser David Plouffe said this morning.

"He's going to lay out his approach very clearly," Plouffe said on CNN's State of the Union, one of a string of Sunday talk show appearances he made.

Obama will address cuts to defense and domestic spending, as well as what to do with the growing entitlement programs of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, Plouffe said.........

Continue at:
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/554874/obama_to_deliver_major_speec....






And then there's pointing out the obvious at The Nation:

No Shutdown, but a Lot of Sellouts

By John Nichols

The arrangement worked out Friday night averted the threatened shutdown with a two-step process. First, the House and Senate passed a one-week spending bill that addressed the immediate threat. That should give Congress and the White House time to finalize a fiscal 2011 spending deal—on which they have agreed in principle—before an April 15 deadline.

So who won the standoff? President Obama says the deal is good for the future, and that might make some Democrats think that he and the Democrats prevailed.

They didn’t.......

Continue at:
http://www.thenation.com/blog/159822/no-shutdown-lot-sellouts




So here we are. Obama is supposed to be the standard bearer for the Democrats and when push comes to shove, he's being shoved aside again and with what seems like very little in the way of passionate objection. It will be interesting to watch in the upcoming months just how flexible Obama really is to the demands of GOP and their draconian cuts to the American social fabric. I fear that by the time Obama leaves office he'll be a limber as an olympic gymnast and wearing nothing but a thong.
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130 comments // Obama ready to frame compromise with Republicans (again) on Wednesday this week.

  • Malikskyy
    • +1
      Malikskyy  

    • “Bush and the GOP convinced us that by giving the Rich obscene tax breaks that we all be beneficiar­ies to an economy that will flourish, that the unemployme­nt numbers would be pushing zero. Insanity is repeating a certain action—rep­eatedly—an­d expecting different results. I can understand Obama’s desire to expand the base of potential voters, his desire to get back the independen­ts, but I will not be willing to understand him if he continues to emulate the bush modus operandi of stealing from the poor to give tax breaks to the rich. We are at a very dangerous crossroads­; middleclas­s and underclass America is not only being run over by busses of the corporate elites, Just when the job market is being to show improvemen­t and the bottom of that “ditch” is beginning to get smaller and smaller, we are assaulted from all sides. Our workers rights are threatened­, our human rights are diminishin­g, women’s rights are being curtailed, our students education is in doubt, their teachers are persecuted­, and we are all asked to do more with less as social programs are gutted while profits of Banker’s row and Wall Street are reaching soaring epic heights. Enough is enough. If you want the voters to stand with you in 2012, you have to stand up to the axis of Weasels (gop, baggers & Koch bros). We voters will do our part, we got your back but you have to have our backs as well—not now, but RIGHT NOW.”

    • 1 year ago
  • sammykatz
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      sammykatz  

    • The narrative needs to be reframed from cutting entitlements, which are inviolate and should never be on the table, to one of raising revenue to pay down the debt and produce jobs. That means eliminating loop holes and subsidies for the wealthy and big business. Military spending, too, needs to be on the table: not benefits to vets, or their pay, rather the inordinate amount of money tied up in weapons development and government contracts.

      It is time to send in the Progressive Caucus to negotiate, and advocate for the implementation of The People's Plan for a balanced budget.

    • 1 year ago
  • kennymotown
    • +4
      kennymotown  

    • Until we all stand up and hit the streets, your government will not represent you!
      All of these cuts proposed don't even touch Defense spending and more taxes on the Rich, give me a fucking break you people are buying this spin?

    • 1 year ago
  • KB723
  • kennymotown
    • +3
      kennymotown  
    • KB723:

      That's right my brother, hell I would used to get in a physical fight with some Republican for less. I'm sick and tired of our so called citizens doing nothing while the Rich run over them!

    • 1 year ago
  • KB723
  • coolplanet
  • corderodedios
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      corderodedios  
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    • Let's all WAKE UP.

      Recall that President Obama negotiated with the Republicans a continuation of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy in late 2010 and shoved it down the throats of the lame-duck Democratic Congress after the midterms.

      Recall that President Obama has several times gone on air to brag that he's cut domestic programs more even than Reagan.

      Recall that President Obama has furthered the use of torture and expanded the war in Afghanistan, and invaded Libya, however briefly. The list of his "broken campaign promises" (i.e. lies) is growing longer by the day. Banksters and Wall Streeters continue to reign unimpeded, and wealth continues to flow upwards from the less economically advantaged to accumulate in the pockets of the already wealthy. The already wealthy, whose ranks include the President.

      When do we STOP believing that OBAMA is anything but a Neocon elitist in sheep's clothing? That he has been a dissembling manipulator in what he said to get himself elected vs. what he has done?

      There is ONE JOB we have to do - DUMP OBAMA IN THE PRIMARIES. Check this link out:

      http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/11/obama-palin-get-bad-news-in-flor...

      It'll only get worse.

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
  • dinm76
  • SIBob
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      SIBob  
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    • This situation will not change until we all get together and demand it. The political/corporate alliance keeps pushing…and pushing… and pushing. The rising tide in the streets that I witnessed in NYC on two occasions last week, (Monday and Saturday), seems to be growing. The truth is finally getting through and people are pissed off. We have to use this momentum and accomplish something with it. Just getting Obama the sellout in again isn’t going to help us at all. We have to stop buying what the marketing mechanisms are dishing out, both politically and economically. We also have to learn how to shape the dialogue like the right-wing is doing now. If we force them to see us that is the first step. http://sibob.org/wordpress/

    • 1 year ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • noxidereus
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      noxidereus  

    • Everyone got their popcorn? This is political theater coming from both sides of the isle. I think we've seen this one before though. It's the one where half the country is duped into believing the Republicans care about the deficit and the other half is duped into believing that the Democrats really care about, but are just too weak to help the people because that Republican Kryptonite is just... too... powerful!

      * Spoiler Alert *

      The act pays off and bad guys end up winning by successfully doing whatever they want while dividing the people against itself.

      Don't forget to watch the previews too -- I've heard that the sequel is going to follow the exact same pattern.

    • 1 year ago
  • corderodedios
  • mii
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      mii  

    • Although disappointed in Obama in so many ways,
      I shutter to think of what mayhem would be put
      upon us if Crazy John and Sarah were at the
      helm.

    • 1 year ago
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  

    • I remember when the GOP held the Dems hostage by threatening to let unemployment expire back in December. The Democrats gave in and it's no wonder the GOP resorts to the same tactics - because they work on the Democrats.

      The Democrats need to draw their line in the sand and defend it - or this won't be the last time they get taken for a ride.

    • 1 year ago
  • Radical_Centrist
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      Radical_Centrist  
    • UrbanGypsy:

      I GUARANTEE you if Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden were President the Republicans would not be bitch slapping them around the way they are Obamabi. The guy SHOULD have stayed in Illinois and left Washington politics up to people with a brass pair not afraid to fight for what they CLAIM to believe in..

    • 1 year ago
  • Schnookums
  • Radical_Centrist
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      Radical_Centrist  
    • Schnookums:

      They are just as crooked, but at least they don't bend over every time a Republican comes in the room. As to being a friend of big banking have you ever taken a good long look at Obambis top donors and high level appointees?

    • 1 year ago
  • Schnookums
    • +1
      Schnookums  
    • Radical_Centrist:

      Please don't take my previous comment as in any way defending Obama. I lost all faith in the man the second he nominated the President of the private New York Federal Reserve as his Treasury Secretary. I am also acutely aware that the five biggest banks in America responsible in no small degree for strangling the economic life out of our country over the last 30+ years are among his top donors, and even more frighteningly, his go-to pool of economic 'advisers'.

    • 1 year ago
  • dinm76
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      dinm76  
    • Radical_Centrist:

      You're right there! Hillary knew who she was up against and had political AND personal reasons for really fighting them. Healthcare was her baby from the very beginning and you can bet they we would have the Puplic Option if not full out single payer by now. When Obama was running against her, I couldn't believe that he had the gaul to claim that he was smarter then her! My God...we would be in a much better place today if she had won!

    • 1 year ago
  • kgMA
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      kgMA  

    • The inspiration, the excitement, the feeling of hope and change, has all but disappeared! With every decision Obama makes, we seem to lose! So how much should we lose before we ask ourselves the real question, do we really want 4 more years of the tail wagging the dog or do we need a different candidate? Someone who would stand up to the American terrorist party! For those who say Obama is a liberal or a progressive, I say you're 100% incorrect! Obama is a conservative Bluedog Dem who leans to the right of center. Every social program is under attack and I'm fearful our elected President is all to willing to give away anything to the right when they demand it! Education and speeches are good! Education, speeches and a spine is better! Yes! I voted for Obama in 2008, I walk door to door, I gave what I could. Will I do it again? I'll say it again! The inspiration, the excitement, the feeling of hope and change, has all but disappeared!

    • 1 year ago
  • kgMA
    • +1
      kgMA  
    • kgMA:

      Who was behind the curtains while the Health Care bill was being written? Where in the bill, written by Republicans and Blue Dog Dem's, does it stop, reduce, or control any outrageous increases from the insurance and medical industry? Don't look because the words aren't there! What happened to a Single Payer system that would put a stop to this financial rape of a nation? Off the table? And the cycle goes on!

      Where are the incentives to eliminate outsourcing of American industry and jobs?
      Where are the higher trade tariffs on imported products that were made here just 10 years ago?

      Why are we still in Iraq and Afghanistan? Bush borrowed the money from China for his wars and Obama, with the help of the heartless in Congress, now want to pay for it off of the backs of the elderly and future generations.

      Why aren't the crooks who ripped off America behind bars and sleeping with Bubba?

      Why isn't Obama or Congress talking about opening the oil reserves to help lower the high cost of fuel? No, can't do that! It would disrupt the profit flow the oil industry is making!

      Unemployment funds! Five months down with eight remaining before Obama and the Dem's offer social benefits to cover those in need. When the funds end, the Republicans will vote against adding more funds unless tax reductions for the wealthy are made permanent or SS is eliminated or given to Wall Street! Millions of 99ers are still out of work or were forced to accept those minimum wage jobs with no benefits, days off, or safety conditions, and have little chance of getting ahead. You know, the jobs the kids did during summer vacation! Where is the change Obama? Where is the hope? Where are the decent jobs Boehner?

      Its a magic show folks! Your money went into the black hat and the only thing pulled from the hat is BS! Piles and piles of it!

    • 1 year ago
  • dinm76
  • Introspective
  • northernexpat
    • +2
      northernexpat  

    • All he has to do is say is that he agrees 100% with Ryan's Budget, the GOP will then say they are against it.

      Seriously though, I hope the President has learn his lesson on how to negotiate. Or get someone in his Administration that does. Using some strong arm tactics wouldn't hurt at this point. He got to start fighting for the middle class. He also has got to make it clear to America that Ryan's Budget will pass on the burden to those that can least afford it. Use that Bully Pulpit! The Democrats in both houses better start fighting back as well.

    • 1 year ago
  • Schnookums
  • Roldan
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      Roldan  
    • Schnookums:

      It is ironic that you suggest Obama could propose a Bolivian idea being so that Obama himself cut off aid [climate] to Bolivia and Ecuador just because they refuse to sign on the Copenhagen Environmental accord, which they saw as detrimental to their own modest survival interests.

      This US president, just as past ones, is just a puppet of an apparatus that is driven by the forces of greed and power-hungry, coldblooded reptiles whose only well-being that counts is their own.

      Obama totally missed his opportunity of becoming a positive historical leader of this nation and instead has become just a mediocre president who failed miserably to people who had the greatest ILLUSIONS and expectations about his ability and willingness to change the course of this country.

      And it is too late for him to change. If he begins [again] to whisper sweet things in your ear and shows you cute and clever slogans, do not believe any; it's probably just re-election time.

      ------------------------------------------------------
      [current background noise: Politics by Korn]

    • 1 year ago
  • Schnookums
  • Milieu
    • +4
      Milieu  

    • Sorry, I believe it's up to us to put the Democratic Party back in power. They can't undo all the Republic Syndicate Collective have done, but they can start.

      Do they give me what I really want? Nope. But they'll give me a hell of a lot more than Republic Syndicate will.

      And a 3rd Party vote is a vote for Republic Syndicate Collective and the Oligarchs that control them.

    • 1 year ago
  • tverdell
    • +5
      tverdell  

    • Obama lost all respect when he didn't even try to fight the Bush tax cut extension and then left it up to Pres Clinton to defend.

      Watch this vid. It says it all. Skip to the 10:50 mark

    • 1 year ago
  • UrbanGypsy
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      UrbanGypsy  
    • tverdell:

      Exactly! I knew the GOP was going to force the hand of the Dems with the same old tactic - the tactic of holding the country's welfare hostage in order to get concessions. I saw it coming since December with the tax cut deal - sadly the Dems have done everything to encourage that behavior by enabling them.

    • 1 year ago
  • PoliticalAmazon
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      PoliticalAmazon  
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    • Obama has no problem standing up for what he wants to. The reason he isn't standing up to the GOP is because conceding to them actually advances Obama's true agenda, as well.

      He would not be in the Oval Office today if he was a wimp and unable to take a stand.

      The only other alternative is that he gives in because it suits his own agenda.

      Truly, the Obama administration is simply Bush's 3rd administration. A vote for Obama in 2012 is a vote for a Bush 4th administration.

    • 1 year ago
  • Radical_Centrist
  • coxian_armada
  • Swisher
    • +4
      Swisher  

    • The public needs to be reminded OVER AND OVER who it was that demanded the extension of tax cuts for the wealthy a mere three months ago!!!

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
  • Aaron_Brutus
    • +2
      Aaron_Brutus  

    • The Government almost shut down. one of them had to be the adult and make a compromise. Now if Obama would've held out and let the government shut down YOU WOULD BE ATTACKING HIM FOR THAT ALSO. MAN! you just cant win with these Mothaf###as. . .if he goes left people complained because he didnt go right and if he goes left AND right people would complain saying he cant make up his mind. WTF? i cant believe this dude is running again. does he really want to do with this again? He should just let Donald Trump or some other fool win and let them run this country in the ground and maybe then you will learn. . .

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
  • PoliticalAmazon
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      PoliticalAmazon  
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    • Aaron_Brutus:

      You couldn't possibly know what another poster would be doing had Obama not "conceeded" to Boehner--thereby advancing the agenda of both Boehner and Obama.

      Do you not understand that OBAMA IS KILLING OUR COUNTRY? We gave him a Dem majority in the House and Senate, and he spoon-fed it to his BFFs in the GOP/corporate America.

    • 1 year ago
  • Schnookums
  • tverdell
  • Radical_Centrist
  • Richard_Wyatt
  • crash_text_dummy
    • +4
      crash_text_dummy  

    • prez obama is gettin to look more and more like a wienie
      i'm beginning to get disgusted

      what happened to this: i'd rather be a good a one term president

      does the word sell out come to mind?
      does power mitigate care for america?!

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
    • -1
      SFirman  
    • crash_text_dummy:

      He did stand up for planned parenthood, clean air water,Health care, education, etc., right up to the last hour. Boehner caved on these. They all agreed to 38 Billion in spending cuts. .

    • 1 year ago
  • crash_text_dummy
    • +1
      crash_text_dummy  
    • SFirman:

      exsqueeze me?
      it came to 79 billion on the 100
      in cuts to the middle and lower class

      nothing out of wall street, the wealthy class, the wasteful war machine,
      oil subsidies, big ag subsidies
      and
      on and on

      get your ignorant bullshit outta here...

    • 1 year ago
  • PoliticalAmazon
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      PoliticalAmazon  
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    • crash_text_dummy:

      Obama isn't a wimp. He wouldn't be in the Oval Office if he was a wimp. A politician has to be a ruthless and shred strategian, and as tenacious as a pit-bull with lock-jaw when he wants something.

      The problem with Obama is this: he wants much of what the GOP wants, and that is why he has sold our best interests off to the GOP/corporatists time after time after time.

      The Obama administration is nothing more than Bush's 3rd administration. If you want to see the fourth Bush administration, just vote for Obama in 2012.

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
    • -2
      SFirman  
    • crash_text_dummy:

      Excuse me! . Saving planned parenthood, clean air water, health care education was for the middle class. DON"T call me ignorant. They agreed to 38Billion in spending cuts. I will go no where!!!

    • 1 year ago
  • tverdell
  • tverdell
  • crash_text_dummy
  • SFirman
  • dinm76
    • +1
      dinm76  

    • Here's a thought I have had for some time but dared not speak....
      I became politicly aware when Kennedy was shot. Then his brother Bobby and soon after MLK. If the corporate powers that be in this country thought for one minute that Obama was really going to bring real progressive change he would not be alive today.
      Today we are dealing with a serious nation wide cult called the republican party who will stop at nothing to get and hold power.
      Obama is no real threat to them. They know it, Obama knows it and more and more Americans are beginning to know it.
      It will NEVER be Obama who leads us to the promised land.
      No one is more sorry to say this then I because I voted for him and foolishly, for a brief moment when he won, I believed in that "hope & change".
      Now, I don't think any of us alive today will ever live long enough to see the end of this new fascist America. I feel so sorry for our children for the world we have left them.
      Damn Obama!

    • 1 year ago
  • sammykatz
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      sammykatz  
    • dinm76:

      Given the choice we had in the 2008 election, firmly believe President Obama was the man to elect. He was not my choice in the primary, though...We will be faced with a similar situation in 2012, unless a dark horse comes riding out of the shadows. And I will vote for a Republican when pigs fly!

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
    • +1
      SFirman  
    • dinm76:

      Dam Obama? You better give some blame to Bush. He started the mess were in. If the Rep. hadn't of did so many filibusters, he would have got more done How come everyone seems to forget everything he did for the country, like keep us from a deep depression. You better hope he gets back in 2012. The rep. have no one better to offer.It will give you something to really cry about.

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
  • sammykatz
  • PoliticalAmazon
    • 0
      PoliticalAmazon  
    • sammykatz:

      There are other alternatives than robotically voting for one of the candidates offered by the Dems and GOPers--i.e., the two halfs of the oligarchy running our country.

      If you vote for a Democrat because you don't like the GOPer, then you are giving the power of your vote to the DNC, and allowing them to hand-pick the candidate they KNOW you will meekly vote for.

    • 1 year ago
  • PoliticalAmazon
    • 0
      PoliticalAmazon  
    • sammykatz:

      Congratulations. You've just given the power of your vote to the DNC. You are allowing them to hand-pick any candidate they want because they KNOW you will vote for whatever piece of shit they decide to put on the ballot.

      The DNC has incredible power over who advances from the primary to the general election. Everytime you vote for one of their hand-picked corporate toadies, like Obama, you are simply empowering the DNC.

    • 1 year ago
  • sammykatz
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      sammykatz  
    • PoliticalAmazon:

      You lost the thread of the narrative: were there a third candidate who was viable as a winner, and one who espoused the same beliefs as I do, then that person would get my vote: however, as it now stands, there is no other candidate. Using the write in vote for Rocky the Flying Squirrel might make for a chuckle or two, but it wold be an absolute waste of my vote and might actually help some neo-com Bircher backed GOP slug get elected!!!!!

    • 1 year ago
  • sammykatz
    • +1
      sammykatz  
    • PoliticalAmazon:

      Again, unless a dark horse comes out of the shadows at a convention, incumbent presidents usually are not challenged at their respective party's nominating conventions. Fact of life--get over it...

    • 1 year ago
  • Leen61
    • +2
      Leen61  

    • Expect another depression because the middle class is getting gutted to make the rich richer. They hoard their money and there won't be any dollars flowing into the economy. Obama will continue to cave and pave the way to economy killing Rep agenda. Call him "Herbert Hoover Obama." I like what Keith Olbermann said at his site about the debt ceiling. I couldn't agree more. Here it is:

      "April 10, 2011
      Republicans are expected to demand fundamental changes in policy on health care, the environment, abortion rights and more, as the price of their support for raising the debt ceiling (New York Times)

      Answer: Give them nothing. Go ahead, don’t raise the debt ceiling. Crash the global economy. We’ll direct the rioting starving hordes from the third world to your offices, GOOP."

    • 1 year ago
  • wolfess
    • +4
      wolfess  

    • I had such high hopes for 'change' when Obama was elected -- where we are now after 3 years of his compromises is just depressing. And these republicunteas holding all of us hostage for weeks on end has GOT to stop -- even if I have to 'assist' them in seeing the error of their way!

    • 1 year ago
  • lazloman
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      lazloman  
    • wolfess:

      This is such a shame. I don't if its him, or maybe we just got duped during the campaign but I don't know what the reps are complaining about It's like Bush never left office.

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
  • tlbuffin
  • Warren_Merrill
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      Warren_Merrill  
    • SFirman:

      Obama has done very little that appeals to mainstream America. His liberal agenda died when America voted out a Democrat controlled House. Now he's about keeping his job. He's turning right and pissing off the left. This is what happens when a person stands for himself rather than his principles. He may win re-election but he'll be dealing with an all Republican Congress. Then he'll really piss off the left. What else can you expect from a guy whose favorite vote was "present" earlier in his political life rather than taking a stand.

    • 1 year ago
  • PoliticalAmazon
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      PoliticalAmazon  
    • wolfess:

      Do you realize what a nice distraction that was while Obama was planning and getting ready to commit ground troops to Libya?

      Obama was in on it, too. Come on. He's POTUS. He's aggressive enough and slick enough to lie us into Libya...and he can't stand up to an orange-tanned drunk like Boehner?

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
  • cherry5000
  • lazloman
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      lazloman  
    • cherry5000:

      I dont' know if its a lack of a spine that the problem. I think he's doing what he's inclined to do anyway. He had already lost before the discussion had even really started. By allowing the repubs to limit the discussion to discretionary spending only, he allowed them to rule any substantive cuts to anything like defense.

    • 1 year ago
  • KB723
  • dinm76
    • 0
      dinm76  

    • 4 more years of Obama's deal making will give the republicans the country THEY want. Face it...we are screwed unless he is changled from the left...soon!

    • 1 year ago
  • sammykatz
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      sammykatz  

    • With all do respect, Mr. President, send in the Congressional Progressives to negotiate. They have a plan, The People's Plan, that is fair, balanced, will not cause bankrupcy for corporations, or poverty for millionaires, and actually benefits the entire country.

    • 1 year ago
  • tlbuffin
  • sammykatz
  • bike10
  • Milieu
  • moodyblue
  • wolfess
  • Warren_Merrill
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      Warren_Merrill  
    • bike10:

      Neither did Pelosi and Reid when they had control. The Republicans only control half of Congress. Blame Obama for not being able to lead. Obama was on tv ad nauseum the first eighteen months of his presidency. The going (oil, North Africa, economy) got tough and the guy is hiding under his desk.

      May I remind everyone the 2011 budget should have been passed last fall. The 2011 year started October 1, 2010. The Democrats were in complete control. But they passed a continuing resolution because they knew if they passed their budget a majority of America would have been pissed off. They would be swept out of Washington. It happened to the House anyway.

    • 1 year ago
  • Milieu
  • DianaCancer
  • SFirman
  • DianaCancer
    • +1
      DianaCancer  
    • SFirman:

      Proud of my dissent...I voted for him, got others to vote for him, worked for his campaign and have been betrayed.
      If you can stop walking in lock-step for a second you may come to the same conclusion.
      Most of the people I know who are still Obama devotees have the same thing in common; the obsessive need to be right.

    • 1 year ago
  • wolfess
    • -1
      wolfess  
    • DianaCancer:

      I think I'm gonna have follow you -- I voted and campaigned for him, and got others to vote for him and I am just so upset with him I can't even talk about it! And it took a long time for me to reach this point because I was proud of myself for actually getting involved in a presidential race, and yes it's true, I really didn't want to think that I had been wrong :-(
      >:-

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
    • +3
      SFirman  
    • DianaCancer:

      I don't need to be right, but I know if a republican takes the white house this country will be in another mess. Look at what happened to the states when they changed parties. I just don't believe any president should be disrespected with ugly pictures, whatever party.I do know the point you were making. Should have just thought a while and let it alone. So many believed when he took office everything would change. I was not one of them. I knew it would take time and even he would not have an easy time. I wish he would do some things different, but he did not take an easy job. I shudder at what we would have if McCain had won.

    • 1 year ago
  • DianaCancer
  • SFirman
  • Warren_Merrill
  • KB723
    • +2
      KB723  

    • Partisan, BiPartisan, NonPartisan, Partially Partisan... Any which way you Slice it it is Never AmeriPartisan, People Partisan, Workers Partisan... This Cat (BO) is losing his base, one day at a Time... It certainly did not help when his VP told us to "Quit Whining"

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
  • KB723
  • wtthfkovr
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      wtthfkovr  

    • The president has forgotten the ones that has got him where he's at. He needs to start being a leader, and stand up to the Republicans. If he agrees with them then we need some one else

    • 1 year ago
  • Warren_Merrill
  • moodyblue
  • tlbuffin
  • timetide
  • Radical_Centrist
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