Obama unplugged, tells Republicans: 'You think we're stupid?'

Thank you. good comment. We tend to blame Obama for everything. He can not get everything he wants, thanks to congress. I still believe in Obama and will vote for him.

You made me feel better. I've been going back and forth about this for a long time. One of my main sticking points is the little matter of not prosecuting some highly placed war criminals, but it is true he can't do everything at once. Thanks for your positive input.

TY - I'm truly happy that my perspective can help someone make some sense of things. Keep hoping and believing in the "Basic Good" of humanity and the majority of our fellow humans, sometimes it's all we have. Giving up on “the dream” is just Not Acceptable.

I agree. I think he needs to speak out, loud and clear, about what he really thinks. The people would appreciate a little candor after all the lies that have been told ad nauseum in the media.

Agreed

Go preach it to the top 2%, then get back to me. I'll let you know where to send the money donated by your new 2-percenter converts.

Finally, a rational voice in the wilderness of the misinformed.

The math does not add up. Taking all of the money from the rich cam to $1.42 trillion. Spending for this years budget is $1.6 trillion according to the beginning of this clip. At what point does recovering 87.5% not equate to 87.5% of the calendar year? I know, when you throw a lot of numbers at trolls they can't do the math. Maybe, it is because they went to an underfunded school system that is depending on property taxes from homeowners, not from property taxes on commercial properties.

Then we come after YOU Warren!

I have a second amendment solution.

Me too -- my Dad used to say it's better to have a gun and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Whew. This is actually pretty good.

Merrill's threatening to go out and pull an Arizona on us somewhere. Warren, did you keep a record of Palin's crosshair targets before she pulled them down? Or are they still posted somewhere?

tlbuffin's Jesus I don't know what, sounds like my Greenwich Connecticut acquaintances. Anyway, tlbuffin, I respectfully suggest you not give any more data to the rabid Right about where they can find you when they implement their Final Solution to the liberal problem.

eat the dumb?

Whew...now that was eloquent...standing applause, and I mean it!

Thank you for this comment. I grew up in a family that was 'comfortable' -- at least that was what my father called it. We had our 'main' home (with a swimming pool that my brother and I and all our friends spent the summer in), and a 'cabin' in the foothills outside of Denver.
I didn't know what it was like to be 'poor' until I got married, and altho we always managed to scrape by, we spent many years NOT being 'comfortable'. A few years ago my husband got very sick, and as he was a veteran we went to the local VA hospital -- he was diagnosed with diabetes/chronic kidney and congestive heart failure. Two summers ago he was diagnosed with prostate cancer. Eighteen months ago he slipped on the ice and broke his hip; he had been home for just 6 days when our home burned down. The fire started because the furnace tech forgot to turn the gas down -- we have a brand-new home that is completely paid for because the company that employed that idiot realized they might as well swallow that pill and do what we wanted. We are anything but rich, but because I know what it's like to be 'homeless' I find it reprehensible for anyone to look down their noses at people who have had some bad luck. No one deserves to go without food, and safety, and a roof over their heads, and for any ditwad to convince themselves they have the right to judge others only shows me that they are not worth my time or effort.

Thank you. You have had an interesting life and i enjoyed reading it. I agree with you politicalamazon is crazy to say the least.

I thank your mother also. She has a great son.

Wow. I hope they find a cure for the poison you are drinking because it's made you go stark raving mad.

Great post. It's amazing how people like Warren assume that liberals are poor struggling fools who see dollar signs. I don't mind paying my taxes. I'm not in love with it, but I don't mind it. Especially if I see something for it like good roads, good schools, libraries, fire and police departments. Those like Warren see dollar signs in a "don't put your hand in my pocket, but educate my kids, clean my roads in the winter, protect my home and life from fire and theft" sort of way. I am tired of the wealthy not paying their share. What if every poor and working class person just decided to not pay taxes either? We would all be in jail. I think that he and those like him and the ultra-wealthy, need to learn to love their country enough to want to support it. You know, like you would support your family. This country is our family. Why do we rape it repeatedly and then act like it's the country's fault? If you don't want to pay your taxes and you want to ship your work overseas to avoid supporting the country that made you rich, then by all means, board a yacht and get the hell out. I'm tired of supporting the rich who act like they are above doing what every other citizen has to do.

I applaud you, I do, a species of a genus of remarkable diversity.

Sure, lots of folks are focused on trying to keep the canoe from tipping over as it approaches the rapids. That'd be a red herring, though, wrong myth.

Say this was a test. In the case of the unthinkable but historic precedent coming true, as it always has, whose side do you come down on? When there are only two sides - for both, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem - whose side are you on: Merrill's or Political Amazon's? And for that matter, what's all this stuff about who's got more bling?

Without exception throughout the entirety of human history there is an ultimate dislocation that serves to reset a game such as this that has gone so far awry. What that will be and when that will be is not known, but that it will be is certain. No one who ever thought it was not certain was in the long run correct, at least for recorded time. Know who your friends are.

We are agreed in total, but.

After giving this a lot of thought, its seems a simplification or clarification might help. Something Mother Teresa said provides us with a kind of litmus test, good vs evil. Where does one come down on this quote: "It's a shame children must die for you to live the way you live."

And that's just the tip of the iceberg: most of those who die/are killed so we can live the way we live are not children, they're fully grown men and women. Virtually all totally innocent.

An example of this, though it hovers near on extreme, is given in our glorious victory in the Cold War. One of the most significant, if underreported, characteristic of the time following Russia's transition from communism to a capitalist criminalocracy, was that the life expectancy of males fell to under 60 years - it bottomed out between 56 and 57 years. Why was this? Not a shortage of food, clothing, or shelter, but mere maldistribution. The wealthy criminal capitalist class of folks took over and redirected the machinery of civilization into a giant monopoly game that funneled all resources into a torrent of wealth flowing upwards towards the already wealthy.

One read of lots of other interesting sidelights. There was so much unemployment, homelessness, and starvation that people would do almost anything to survive. For example, it was common for the business elite to hold striptease contests as a part of recruitment of secretaries. Families had taken up residence in a pile of giant sewer tiles, left from an abandoned public-works project. And so on. But the data regarding life expectancy stands out: it represents the premature deaths of millions of men deprived of work, food, clothing, medical care, or shelter. I call it mass murder, for short.

The same thing is going on here in the USA. We all know of the Harvard study that found, conclusively, that some 35000 to 45000 people die per year here in the USA from lack of health insurance. Obamacare?? More people are uninsured now that when the bill was signed, and the cost of insurance along with medical costs have risen significantly.

Another study commented upon by Krugman, sponsored by the Social Security Administration, I believe, found that economically less advantaged people have far fewer years of life left after attaining retirement age (62 at present) than the well-to-do.

Along the same lines, it was reported that Microsoft was giving out nice pay raises to its employees, which (it was speculated) would do much for the local economy. Now, those raises certainly will help Microsoft employees - already well compensated - to afford the rise in prices of fuel and food, etc. Unfortunately, the "invisible hand" will raise prices to track the increase in salaries, much to the detrement of the unemployed.

But why was the money handed out in raises for the already well-to-do not instead used to employ the unemployed? Because our capitalist system does not need the unemployed, and they are going to be killed off - a gentle killing, perhaps, not obvious to the casual observer, but nevertheless killed off. I call it murder.

Maybe PA's closer to this action than you or even I are, and the outrage has been so extreme as to drive PA to anger and despair. Or perhaps PA understands the killing that is going on so that the well to do can continue to live a life of ease, if not gluttony.

It is monstrous, and worthy of rage. If it will ever change, we of a like mind must figure out how to work together, once we decide what is to be done.

Yeah, behind closed doors, when he thought no one besides his fanboys was listening.

I remember when that used to be called "cowardice."

And here I thought GWBush had brought down the honor of the U.S. presidency just about as low as it could be brought down.

Now Obama voters--after having had Obama break 41 promises since his inauguration, locking up and torturing an American citizen, lying us into war in Libya, etc., etc.--are so pathetically THRILLED that His Holiness, the Obama, whispered in secret, behind closed doors, that the Republicans think we are stupid.

Well, no shit, Sherlock! We voted for Obama in 2008, and there apparently are still many Obama doormats who will vote for him again. I think that is telegraphing "STUPID" to anybody within this solar systems, including the GOP.

The GOP has a damned good reason to think Democrats are stupid.

"The GOP has a damned good reason to think Democrats are stupid"

Yes and I beleive you just gave us all a great reason to consider you a repug stooge and troll....

Both political parties are greedy crumb buckets, but anyone that thinks a "recorded and publicized" speech was "actually behind closed doors" hasn't thought things through very well. o_0

Most people do not realize that, someone who no longer has a logical and informational argument, will turn to character assassination; it is sad to see this in the public, and so often too.

Obama's critics Love to talk about what he has Not done or the mistakes, (mostly by administration officials, not him personally), as if he could just use his pen and make laws, but they Never want to talk about what he Has done that is good for the country.
Thanks for the post.

Your right and your welcome.

I try. Sometimes the words in my mind don't look as good in print. As I age my spelling has gotten bad, so I switch a better word ,to a simple word, with the same meaning. The Political Carival I posted is easy to read but not updated. I found it interesting that President Obama returned the money authorized for refurbishment of W H offices and living quarters.
Most of my life I hoped that a women would be president in my life time. As I watched the primary I respected Hillery but knew I would vote for Obama.
www.white house.gov , under issues goes in detail of what he has done. I posted it a couple times on current ,but there's always someone that wouldn't believe what they find there.

Yeah, it's a red-pill/blue-pill deal.

On this I will wholeheartedly agree with you.

Very insightful. +^'ed

It's one of the best explanations for the Tea Party (and Sarah Palin, if I may be so bold) I've heard.

Of course, having unlimited funding by the Koch brothers, et al., doesn't hurt.

The one thing I'd add is that I think there needs to be a few preexisting conditions in the target stupids.

They have to be intellectually lazy, able to embrace cognitive dissonance, and willing to believe almost anything if it supports their own anger and fears.

I'm sure there are other preexisting conditions necessary, but, IMO, those are the main three things that contribute to the formation of groups like the Tea Party, and followers of nutball rightwinger conservatives like O'Reilly, Beck, Coulter, etc.

Agreed.

The willful and systematic destruction of the primary and secondary education system also plays an important part. The fact that a college level education in this country is substandard and astronomically expensive can also be attributed.

It is becoming a perfect storm of stupidity.

John Kerry was caught like this saying the Republicans were "such liars," but he was too squeamish to defend the comment and seems like he eventually actually apologized.

We have the complete scene before us, though, regarding Obama. He said what he said because he thought it was a non-transparent communication designed to manipulate the crowd. It's eithier a cowardly or cynical thing to do. Americans will not elect cowards or cynics, or the weak.

I hear what you're saying, but what America wants - and thought it voted for in '08 - is someone who says this out loud in public to the face of the enemy, and then follows it up with action. We got none of this.

Wait a while. We'll see. I'm tired of having my hopes dashed. That's what the Neocons want - it's why poor folk don't vote.

He gave a great speech putting down Ryan and his terrible budget plan. If a republican gets in the white house, good bye to SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

Agreed. But.

If we'd all have had the sort of discussion we're having at any time in the past three years (including before Nov 2008), the folks who were skeptical of Obama would have been vindicated and Obama's partisans would have been disappointed or worse.

Reminds me of George Carlin's old routine about Ollie North being questioned by Congress regarding Iran/Contra. The investigators asked question after question related to lies North had told, and Carlin's North answered the only way he could: he said, "I lied."

So the investigator, after receiving a long series of "I lied" answers, finally asks how he can believe anything North now tells them. Carlin's North answers: "Because now I'm telling the truth."

We are all probably in for more of the same from Obama. One has to be either dysfunctional, or pathologically credulous, to believe things will certainly change. Right now no one knows, but the odds are bad. It would be audacious to hope for change.

Of course, we'll see.

I had forgotten about Ollie North. When he said 'Because I am now telling the truth" after admiting to telling the lies, could you believe when he said he was telling the truth. He probably was but maybe not.

I don't believe Obama was lying, but promising things he could not fulfil. Presidents make promises they know they can't keep or do they believe they can.

We don't know what he has yet to do for change if anything but time will tell. i hope your wrong and the odds will be good. He will have a fight ahead about the debt ceiling and the 2012 budget. With the republican house I wish I knew which of what he wants, will he cave to, just to raise the debt ceiling. I wish I knew and hope it's not what I want. But we all may want different things.

At the moment he will have my vote in 2012. I know cuts have to be made to Medicare, Medicaid, but I hope not drastic. I know I don't want to lose Medicare to a voucher. My kids fall about 4 to 5 years Where Medicare would change under the Ryan plan, This worries me. By the way I don't vote you down if I don't agree with you. Only when someone says something I really like or makes a stupid statement do I vote as I believe we all have our opinions.

I agree. But there's somewhat of a distinction between dissimulation and just plain lying. I doubt Obama is a bald-faced liar. Bias tends to breed fundamental dissimulation that is somewhat different than lying.

You might like Harry Frankfurt's book, "On Bullshit," published by the Princeton University Press. Liars know what the truth is and know they're lying. Bullshitters (frequently under the influence of bias) don't know what the truth is, making bullshitting almost infinitely more (in the opinion of Frankfurt) dangerous. Evaluating Obama (perhaps with the help of folks like politicalamazon's handy lists elsewhere on this site), the conclusion that Obama's a bullshitter is easy to come to. However intelligent and articulate he may be.

But no judgement need be made. The point is, sooner or later both liars and dissimulators lose credibility. For different recipients of the lie or illusion, the line is drawn at different places. Obama's past mine right now, but things might change.

I think Obama's gone past the point he's electable, unless a real crazy runs for the Republicans, or there's a third party candidate that could throw the election to a crazy.

I have not read Harry Frankfurt's book but sounds interesting. I Don't believe Obama is a bold face liar. He is to intelligent for that. It's hard to hide a lie in this day and age. Yes he is articulate, but I like this quality in him. I like the vision he has for our country. Perhaps it is because he has a gift. He can speak and inspire.

I still will not take a chance on changing parties. My state,Ohio, and other states scare me. So far none of the republicans that may run inspire me. They worry me. Ryan and the new house scare me. I hope again you are wrong and Obama is electable.

As far as politicalamazon, for every point he makes against Obama, there is one for him. Sometimes I can agree with him, than he spoils it by being nasty, but I do read what he says.

You write quit well. I wish you were on my side of the Isle.

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I agree with you (is this microphone off? no? ) but I don't think it was an accident; many a time, in the high spheres of politics, everything is measure for impact, the right thing said at the right time.

But imho, too little too late.

ITA.

He treats the American public like they are a poor, ugly, fat chick from the wrong side of the tracks---he'll sweet-talk her in private so he can screw her, but doesn't want to be seen with her by his new popular friends.

Just not a comment a woman would make. What else is fake about you?

I thought that sounded a bit odd from a woman too. But hey, there are some narcissitic females who might say it I suppose.

That is a complete lie since it has alwasy been the conservatives and the Republican party that has taken money away from public education. Just look at Rick Scott.

Please tell me how much money will fix the public education system?

its not money its accountability for teachers parents admin all involved!

I watch CSPAN. I guess the cameras on your channel are pointed elsewhere. Could you please explain what you saw "live" that explains your confusing jumble of poorly articulated pseudo-points?

I was replying to the claim of bambuu's that Republicans are responsible for lack of school funding which in turn dumbs down the population.

Oh...well in that case you proved our point perfectly....thanks. dumb ass...

Indeed. And like most complex issues...this too will require a comprehensive approach to repair all defective parts. No quick fixes here.

You would be the type that nothing would change I waste my electrons on you but one thing I would say. LOOK UP THE FACTS

The needs of Capitalism destroyed the family structure. Control? You need to watch Adam Curtis' BBC documentary, The Century of the Self, if you can find it.

It's not simplistic.

Money's secondary. Culture's first. The elite go to private schools in increasing numbers, and public schools are polluted to a determinant extent by children of those dispossessed by our culture.

For example, a handful of gang members can render any classroom dysfunctional. Those kids are gang members because they see their parents struggling to survive in the capitalist jungle, and want no part in it. They create their own culture, on their own.

This works out for the elite. The bottom 20% or so are being eliminated from the system by illness, death, extreme poverty, hopelessness, and prison. That leaves 80% for recruitment into slavery, though maybe a couple of percent will claw their way into the "middle" class.

We have an elite private school in our area that routinely plays sports against public schools, and usually loses badly. When these children of the elite are far behind in score, the usual situation, they "cheer" the following (I am not making this up): "Hey, Hey, It's OK, you'll all work for us one day."

Lies During Second Year

No “boots” on the ground Libya
Anyone that has worked with the AC-130 gunship can tell you, you need spotters to let aircraft know where the targets are. Usually it is Special Forces, Rangers etc trained for this mission. It’s CIA Agents in Libya on the ground

Reform will also rein in the abuse and excess that nearly brought down our financial system. It will finally bring transparency to the kinds of complex, risky transactions that helped trigger the financial crisis.
Obama Lies About Financial Reform Bill

All Americans WILL BE were, “surprised, disappointed and angry” about lockerbie bomber
Obama Memo

I will not rest until the BP Oil Spill stops
Obama’s Schedule

The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.
Campaign and Presidency

If you like the health care plan you have you can keep it
TownHall

“Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.”
U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C., September 9, 2009.

ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax
Obama denies healthcare is a new tax on all Americans

We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.
Obama’s oval office speech in June 2010

Now suddenly if you don’t have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you can be harassed, that’s something that could potentially happen.
Arizona Immigration Law

The Health Care Package will pay for itself
Time

Republicans don’t have a single idea that’s different from George Bush’s ideas — not one.

Hmm Immigration?

We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care
Democratic Debate Lies

I am immediately instituting PayGo “Pay as you go”
Said during a speech immediately after the Trillion Dollar “Shovel Ready” bill.

I got the Message from Massachusetts
Daily Bail
Lies During First Year

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Obama Inaugaration. 20 Jan 2009

Health Care deals will be covered on C-span
Obama Lies

As President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide
ABC

Recovery Act will save or create jobs
ABC News

Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus.
Obama Lies

No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus

CNN

I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care plan
Specator.Org

We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages.
Obama Lies

I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage.
NPR

Guantanamo bay to be closed within a year
Council on Foreign Relations.

Won’t Raise taxes on those making less than 250,000 per year.
Businessweek: Obama Agnostic on taxes
List of Tax Promise Violations
2008 Campaign Lies

Obama campaign would accept public funding
ABC

Didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was Radical
Dreams of My Father – A radical Socialist.

Would have the most transparent administration in History
Cato Institute

I have visited all 57 states.
Snopes

I’ll get rid of earmarks
Source: Any bill passed during presidency

When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.
Campaign Speech

My father served in World War II.
The Videos and the Facts

Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009
News Video

Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes
YouTube

Would not vote for any bill supporting troop funding without a firm withdrawal commitment from the Bush Administration.
He has done nothing but continue the Bush admins strategy and to explain how the “surges total failure” has now become his greatest achievement.

Present Votes Are Common In Illinois
NPR

I Won Michigan
Huffington Post

I won Nevada
The Nation

I don’t Have Lobbyists
US News

My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad
Crooks and Liars

I Have Always Been Against Iraq
Washington Post

My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country
CNN

Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
Obama Campaign Video

I Barely Know Rezko
Sun Times

My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church
ABC News
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"extreme poverty" eating grass,swollen belly's from malnutrition??????? Where on earth is your ideal county Sweden?

Incredibly long load of horseshit. Trolls are known for things precisely such as this.

That's an old Harvard sports fan line ... "You may be beating us now. But you'll be working for us later." The private schools in our area recruit for sports and beat the public schools.

Please explain my college friend who came out of the ghetto in Memphis, first person in his family to graduate high school as valedictorian, called an Oreo by his family, graduating PBK and becoming a successful professional.

I'm not handing my kids anything. The one that has graduated from college is becoming successful on her own. She attended college on a 75% scholarship.

My kids have grown up on the fairway of a country club with a second home on the beach. They're not allowed to act snotty. I would ground them if they did.

'...The dismantling of the mother and father family structure that a child needs to guide them in the right direction and discipline them when called for....'

I grew up in the conventional 50s and 60s with a middle-class mom and a dad, as you would have all kids do. My dad brought home a paycheck; that was his contribution to family values. Unless you want to count "Did you get your lessons?" (no follow-up questions or assistance of any kind) and the occasional physical and psychological abuse in response to differences of opinion--the 'discipline' of which you speak,I guess. When all that was accomplished, he was off fishing with the boys, leaving my mom, who worked at home, to do all housework, all childrearing, all errands, all family finances, etc. She's the one who read to me, she's the one who taught me things, she was the one who attended parent-teacher conferences alone. [Many years later she attended my wedding alone because he did not like my fiance and elected to stay home.]

Across the street was another family with a dad who was a scientist or academic, beat his wife and terrorised his kids. Later he killed himself. Their lives were much improved after that development.

Our nice baby-booming neighborhood was full of such examples of why families should ALWAYS consist of a mom and dad to give their kids the right start in life.

Go ahead. Dazzle me with some of your Defense Of Marriage Family Values philosophy. It's sure to teach me and all the other 'clueless liberals' here a valuable lesson.

Of course, Obama is no fool.

But the fact remains: he won't stand up for the American people in front of his new BFFs: Republicans and corporatists.

It has to be behind closed doors, like he's ashamed to be the advocate of the people who voted him into office.

If you believe the tea party has that agenda your gray-matter is in question!

Yeah... because the Tea party are mostly a bunch of morons who're too stupid to have an agenda- they're just controlled by a small core of ultra rightwingers who DO have an agenda.

I think the baggers are run by folks who are too smart to allow them to have real policies and a real agenda, because then they would be held accountable to following and supporting their own policies/agenda, and couldn't morph into whatever their handlers wanted be against.

the Tea Party IS the ignorance of the American People!!!!!

Let me ask you this, have your parents kept their word on every single thing they've told you but they still managed to keep at least 85 to 90% of their promises they made to you?

He is not my parent. Thats one thing he does well is parent.

When it's convenient for him and his BFFs: Republicans and corporatists.