Been known by the curious for over a decade , glad to hear them admit it . Then again that may be because they have so much power , that repercussions are no longer feared ... eventually they will not even bother with this very expensive theater ....

This is one reason why the 2000 (s)election went as it did. It was used as the precursor to these machines. I've already complained to my board of elections, because I went to vote and asked for a paper ballot and was told there was no other way to vote. I had to vote on the electronic machine. There shoud be a choice, but preferably paper ballots with receipts. How amazing that Diebold makes ATMs that give out a receipt of your transaction, but you can't get one when you vote.

see "hacking democracy" produced in 2007 by HBO on Hulu.

Where is nightly news on this story? I know the elections are rigged I watched the documentary "Hacking Democracy", but this is totally in your face. How can it possibly be ignored before our next national vote?

Now what?

Wisconsin - vote flipping anyone?

I'd rather have a hanging chad any day.

Anyone who is interested in voter fraud issues should go here: http://www.bradblog.com/?cat=106

No wonder bush got elected? NOW WHAT?! are things going to change?

Honest elections tend to throw a wrench into all forms of fraud, waste and abuse.

The entire country is openly bleeding from the rampant dishonesty, fraud, and greed of the top 10%.

People who are pissed at this need to watch the documentary "Uncounted." It is a very dry, low budget, and factual documentary about voter fraud in 2004 and 2006. If you haven't seen it yet, I suggest you do.

The rose by any other name would be junta.

Ohio 2004 was disappointing, but predictable after 2000; however, what burns me about John Kerry is that he didn't even have the guts to fight for what was so obviously right, as well as for the people who supported him. I guess he believed the republiCON lies about him being a coward!

once there was a burning Bush, son in an american dynasty, mouth babbled only rubbish, he's managed to burn us all irreparably...

START THE REVOLUTION- BOYCOTT CORPORATIONS- LET'S BLOW THESE FIRES OUT OF PROPORTION.

they're fucking me in the backdoor all the time & DAMMIT, i just want a little loving missionary sometimes, you know?

now you see why gov kasich just gave diebold a half amillon dollar tax break you have got to keep your partners in crime close by the way the great plain dealer calls this one of his accomplishments

I know everyone viewing this is wondering about the Bush "victories" in 2000 and 2004. But we should also keep in mind the recent Wisconsin elections that were supposedly "razor thin" until a woman who, had been previously investigated for election fraud, lo and behold found 7000 votes from a conservative county that hadn't been counted.

There were two things wrong here, first the vote shouldn't have been as close as it was. With all the negative publicity Walker was getting it should have been a democratic shoo-in. Additionally, at the time, the uncounted votes were from heavily democratic districts. Even some of Current's trolls had conceded that it was likely Prosser would lose. Second, was the discovery of the uncounted votes. It almost seemed as if, if Prosser lost or was losing, these votes would be available to ensure he would win. This whole thing stinks and stinks again.

It is currently being decided whether that vote should be investigated, but don't hold your breath.

The U.S. has now joined the ranks of election stealing third world countries, except we have computers.

Tabulation is the key,yes,the precinct machines,but tabulation,(2004) is where Kerry lost(he actually won).Only with independent audits of all elections will there be election integrity.There must be a paper copy given to the voter for verification,another goes in a locked box.Same with tabulation at all levels.All software must be open source,be examined by anyone.

Okay, now that we have the info, it's extremely important that we address this in a meaningful manner. If computers are their cheating tools, go to NOTHING but hand written ballots.This just makes me so angry.....this is the democracy we are so compelled to peddle around the world ??

WOW.

If this testimony is as important as it appears to be... I wish you would give a bit more background information for the video.

Love and Kisses

We need to have more context and to be able to apply this information or better yet integrate it into the larger picture.

At the very least there could be some brief summary of the case, when it occured, in what election, etc.

I am disappointed with current tv for not following up on this story.

I understand this is not the method you generally use to decide the??? your webposts, but why not assign some journalists to your "user webposts" or whatever you might call them and we can together (like one big happy family) look into what it all means and hopefully arrive at some sort of conclusion through the process of question and answer.

I would like that. (and I would do my level best not to sabotage it).

Keep in mind attempts at sabotage are opportunities to clear things up.

Ok I'm rambling, drinks on me!!!

blah blah blah

That is a brave man, right there.

No wonder the radical right wing behaves like they do. They have no fear of losing elections, since they have fixed the elections. That explains so much.

I knew this was possible, but to learn it is happening, breaks my heart.

Wow.

Anyone know when and where this testimony took place? (I clicked the source link at the top of the page, but get a blank screen)

Anything can be hacked! The really question is who wants to hack them and why?

As a coder all I can say is DUH and fore every protective scheme you come up with I or any coder can come up with a dozen ways to beat the protective scheme.

Stealing elections is high on the agenda for the GOP and the Teabaggers. They couldn't win otherwise, their economics and beliefs are beyond reason. I don't believe that stupid people outnumber reasonable people in this country.

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, it was planned that way."
President Franklin D. Roosevelt

"access to thousands of machines"

How about if they own most of them.

Your electronic vote in the 2010 election has just been bought

Saturday, 26 September 2009 21:24

by Harvey Wasserman and Bob Fitrakis

The ES&S purchase of Diebold's voting machine operation is merely the tip of a toxic iceberg...

"Unless U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder intervenes, your electronic vote in 2010 will probably be owned by the Republican-connected ES&S Corporation. With 80% ownership of America's electronic voting machines, ES&S could have the power to shape America's future with a few proprietary keystrokes.

ES&S has just purchased the voting machine division of the Ohio-based Diebold, whose role in fixing the 2004 presidential election for George W. Bush is infamous.

Critics of the merger hope Holder will rescind the purchase on anti-trust grounds.

But only a transparent system totally based on hand-counted paper ballots, with universal automatic voter registration, can get us even remotely close to a reliable vote count in the future.

For even if Holder does void this purchase, ES&S and Diebold in tandem will still control four of every five votes cast on touchscreen machines. As the U.S. Supreme Court seems poised to open the floodgates on corporate campaign spending, the only difference could be that those who would buy our elections will have to write two checks instead of one.

And in fact, it's even worse than that. ES&S, Diebold and a tiny handful of sibling Republican voting equipment and computing companies control not only the touchscreen machines, but also the electronic tabulators that count millions of scantron ballots, AND the electronic polling books that decide who gets to vote and who doesn't.

Let's do a quick review:
ES&S, Diebold and other companies tied to election hardware and software are owned and operated by a handful of very wealthy conservatives, or right-to-life ideologues, with long-standing direct ties to the Republican Party;

As votes will be increasingly cast on optiscans, touchscreens or computer voting machines in the United States in 2010, the scant few so-called paper trail mechanisms that are in place will offer little security against electronic vote theft;

The source code on all U.S. touchscreen machines now used for the casting and counting of ballots is proprietary, meaning the companies that own and operate the machines -- including ES&S -- are not required to share with the public the details of how those machines actually work;

Although there are official mechanisms for monitoring and recounts, none carry any real weight in the face of the public's inability to gain control or even access to this electronic source code, whose proprietary standing has been upheld by the courts;

With the newly merged ES&S/Diebold now apparently controlling 80% of the national vote through hardware and software, this GOP-connected corporation will have the power to alter virtually every election in the U.S. with a few keystrokes. Unless there is a massive, successful grassroots campaign between now and 2012, the same will hold true for the next US presidential election;"

Continued here:
http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/11708-your-electronic-vote-in-the-2010-e...

this is totally disgusting. we need to you back to paper ballots

conniepae

Clinton Eugene Curtis publicly announced allegations against Congressman Tom Feeney and implicating Yang Enterprises in 2001. He gave the testimony you posted in 2004. It got national attention at the time.

So, basically, wtf?
What is the point of you posting a video posted over 5 years ago that had been seen by over 300,000 people?

Here people, put
Clinton Eugene Curtis
into Wikipedia and read all the details of what went on back then following the testimony.

How long has this been going on ? Maybe that's why the guy with the most money always wins...he bids the most on this program!
We are running out of passive ways to take back control of this country ...what now ?

If there is a way to cheat, you better believer your politicians won't think twice.

Oh damn! When did this happen and by who? I just cannot believe this could take place in the good old USA. I am frigging shocked. !

I knew it , but not from mainstream U. S. media . People don't want to believe this is true . Denial is a common coping method . It is not , however , a survival trait .

Former reporter for BBC did 2000 and 2004 elections showed how it was done and by whom. Wasn't covered in U.S.

i never really paid attention to the rules... its all rigged anyway...

This was reported soon after the 2000 election. It was not handled then and now there will never be a legitimate election in the US.

If voting made a difference, they would not let us do it.

i wish i could say this surprised me :-/

Questions were raised about the security of the "new" computerized voting machines back in 2000; Diebold owner , and buddy of GWB, was alleged to have said he could have GWB win before the election. Interesting that states were told they would loose federal monies if they did not install the (then) new voting machines

GWB's win over Gore was like Robin William's win in the movie Man of the Year.

Bring back the paper ballot!!!!!

This is nothing new. Voting always has been and always will be rigged in America. They only let you go through the mechanics of voting just so you feel like you have a say in whatever puppet THEY will select for YOU to run the country for THEM.

I saw this on BrasscheckTV a couple years ago. This is how elections are rigged. Of course the media isn't going to cover this. They want the masses to think their vote still counts. Presidential campaigns mean ratings, so they have to have the people believe they are for real.

This was brought up when Al Gore was supposed to be president.especially in Florida.They,the machines, are probably all over the nation. Let's not forget the "chads"This is something else the attorney generals office should investigate.

This is really nothing new and has been known for years. Its why companies like Diebolt don't want their voting machines to be audit able. Believe it or not, the software in slot machines gets more scrutiny than voting machines. I know about slot machines, I used to write software for them.

Few people understand the regulatory procedures behind counting votes; even fewer people understand the capabilities of computer exploitation (hacking). It's a dark area that we need to shed a little more light on.

If some idiot from Wisconsin can privately store voting data on a personal computer, then just magically have ~7,500 votes appear (sorry for name calling, but this is out of hand), then it's fair game for programmers.

People always say that "Your vote counts," and Michael Moore's "Capitalism: A Love Story" tells me that our vote is what big business fears most. But at the back of my mind, I can't help but feel we have some elaborately rigged elections. Maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me--oh well, at least I'm conscious of the possibility.

Just brainstorming here: I think the two things big business fears is our ability to vote, in addition to open communication, free of legal and social constraints; i.e the internet, group gatherings/meetings.

This is an old video though...