Cannabis: The most important plant on earth? YES!!

bullshit...

there you go, see what I mean. And I was kind of hoping you'd say something like'peace and love to you brother'

Why would I love you for saying regular cannabis users are some of the most fucked up people you've known? I've known plenty of fucked up people who don't use anything. In fact, contrary to your statement, most the regular cannabis users I've known have been very normal people, perhaps even more compassionate and intellectual thinkers than those who do not smoke. And FYI, I do not smoke pot. I used to though and I know that what you say is bullshit for the majority of people who use it. You must have known some real losers who probably would have been losers with or without pot.

That sounds more like methamphetamine psychosis. Maybe it was not pot that was responsible for the out burst of rage.

Well said Sim.....I see alcohol users acting outrageously and smokers being laid back.I
personally dont use either but acholol recreationaly is the only form of use whereas pot...some medicinel value.
Im not slamming anyone here...jusssst a look at both sides.

Really??. 54, self employed since 1996. Times are tough right now in this screwed up economy, but I'm still open for business. As a hobby, since 1986, I've played music on the weekends. I've played bars, honky-tonks, fraternal organizations, and private functions. I've been around stoners, and drunks. I'll take a pothead over a drunk any day.

So maybe it helps the brain work better in some way . i would like to see some more research on that . Was that in Madrid , Spain ?

Your view is accurate but incomplete. The CIA is only one arm of an international jndustry that resembles the recent British Colonial Empire with obvious reason. There are great books on this. Love everyone...X MARINE.

If that were so , it would have changed by now . No , there is too much for the competition to loose , they will never have it legal . There needs to be a revolution . We need to take back what is rightfully OURS .

What are you referencing? Just a thought, are you talking about the discussion of facts?

Policy should be based on fact! Just legalize and regulate, negates facts. It's simplistic. We don't really need simplistic. It's a complicated topic on many levels.

To assume people just want to smoke cannabis is wrong on many levels. Many people care about facts. Many people want to share facts.

Utopian fantasy bullshit? No.
Discussion of facts relevant to the issue? Yes.

"Oh fuck you dead...". Why? You don't like people sharing facts? Why?

Love you ozoneocean !!! But you are mistaken on the UTOPIAN critic . The plant really is that valuable . Please look at the Monsanto ATTACK on all of humanity by removeing/ blocking seed and plant availabilityof every useful plant known or developed by humankind . There really is a force that strives to dominate by with holding the most benefitial resourses from public use. I donot use cannibis for anything. But we would all benefit greatly if we were allowed to grow and use it for the great agricultural product that it is . UYOPIA IS ALWAYS RELATIVE. When we judge the value of something we shuold be careful to err on the side of humanity. X FARMER AND X MARINE

Excellent comment! Voted up!

I disagree with you. I think it's very important to inform and educate people about the TRUTH of cannabis. More people are coming around every day. Look around you, we now have 15 states with legalized medicinal cannabis and three or four states with outright legalization and regulation bills up for 2012. I think part of this sea change is the fact that the internet has now opened up far more people to more information than just what they get on the television or at school. People are finally starting to see thru all the government BS and contrary to what you claim, this WILL make a difference. Pessimism like yours helps nothing.

Talking about it is important, far more important than tossing some seeds in a field. Information IS the seeds that will bring about an end to prohibition. They've kept prohibition going on lies and disinformation, that is their weapon. We have to fight back with the truth. Information and enlightenment is the only way to do this. Tossing seeds on the ground will do nothing to change the laws, especially if people who see the resulting plants do not understand what they really are....

I mean, would you really tell Jack Herer that he wasted his time writing his book and all the other proactive stuff he spent his time on??? You'd rather he'd have been out tossing seeds in a ditch? How about all the others? Marc Emery? Everyone at NORML, SSDP, and MPP?? Are they wasting their time? No, they are out there informing people and getting the laws changed along with the public opinion of cannabis, both of which are equally important.

I agree strongly . Great to hear the apprpriate passion.!!!

By all means, inform, people will always talk it's what drives a community. However it's not what makes a law pass. The states you are talking about have a good number of city officials that USE or USED cannabis. That's what gets laws passed, whatever is convenient for the people enforcing the laws, it's what sometimes overrides what's convenient for the people that fund our "elected officials".

Yes I WOULD like to see this medicinal herb growing near everywhere and I would like to know people can simply try it even if they do it discretely. Making it available is the first step to normalizing something that is Taboo.

By all means Deforest as many paper woods as you like, encouraging people to write all they can about the subject. I'm sure that'll get people moving towards their nearest murdering, money grubbing, drug dealer as quick as you can say "smoke some".

Right, the only reason bills get passed is because the officials have used it. It has nothing to do with public opinion and education... what a bunch of BS.

Deforestation?? How many trees were destroyed by all the posts on this thread? How about all the internet sites and forums dedicated to this topic?? None! We are free to comment, email, and publish as much as we want on the internet without wasting a single page of paper, so your point is moot.

You said: "I'm sure that'll get people moving towards their nearest murdering, money grubbing, drug dealer as quick as you can say "smoke some"."

What an ignorant statement... the whole point of informing people and discussing this topic is so that there IS public support for bills that are put up for the PUBLIC to vote on. This will eventually eliminate those "murdering, money grubbing, drug dealers". That is one of the most important reasons to fight for legalization; first and foremost this means education and discussion in whatever form necessary!

What? Appropriate passion? Are you talking about his apparent passion for self-defeating mentality?

you're talking to an economist.........I guess I could be misconstrued as a pessimist.....and last I heard...yeah....it still takes a tree or two to make a book depending on the quality of paper and the number of pages in it, so I'm sure jack Herer played some part in killing a few trees at least every author has.

I suppose your right about the siliconized version of spreading information it doesn't really contribute to deforestation, unless of course that forest is sitting right on the silicon mine, then it gets blown up..not to mention all the precious resources being spent generating the power it takes to run the servers that so readily hold all of our musings, but....I digress, bottom line, I'm sorry your sooo upset over my belittling your effort to legalize pot.

Have a cookie...

I'm assuming you live in some yuppie la-la land where pot can be prescribed to you legally however the rest of us really do know someone who deals or someone who knows someone that deals.

In any case I tire of arguing semantics with you, and you lack the logic to support your own argument on anything else so I say, A Gewd Day To You Sir.

I see you've resorted to semantics so I WIN!! a gewd day to you adieu!

I lack the logic to support my argument? You're the one arguing that because you have to cut down a tree to make a book, that book shouldn't be written even if the knowledge it contains can shift the conscience of an entire nation and eventually save hundreds of thousands of trees in the process. What kind of logic is that?

You're right, you do win. You win the Asinine Cynic award. Congratulations!

again, you miss the point, it's so funny

GREAT HEADLINE yes.

With recent events in Japan and the possiblity of radiation circling the globe, we may all need to look at hemp more seriously.

http://hempnayer.blogspot.com/2008/04/hemp-chernobyl-world-trade-center.html
"Hemp "Eats" Chernobyl Waste, Offers Hope For Hanford

Winter 1998-99 - by Elaine Charkowski Central Oregon Green Pages

An explosion at a nuclear reactor on April 26th, 1986 in Chernobyl, Ukraine created the world's worst nuclear disaster - so far. The blast heavily contaminated agricultural lands in a 30 km radius around the reactor. The few people still living there must monitor their food and water for radiation.

However the combination of a new technology (phytoremediation) and an old crop (industrial hemp) may offer the Ukraine a way to decontaminate it's radioactive soil. In 1998, Consolidated Growers and Processors (CGP), PHYTOTECH, and the Ukraine's Institute of Bast Crops began what may be one of the most important projects in history - the planting of industrial hemp for the removal of contaminants in the soil near Chernobyl. "

"Founded in 1931, the Institute of Bast Crops is now the leading research institution in the Ukraine working on seed-breeding, seed-growing, cultivating, harvesting and processing hemp and flax. The Bast Institute has a genetic bank including 400 varieties of hemp from various regions of the world."

"Hemp is proving to be one of the best phyto-remediative plants we have been able to find," said Slavik Dushenkov, a research scientist with PHYTOTECH. Test results have been promising and CGP, PHYOTECH and the Bast Institute plan full scale trials in the Chernobyl region in the spring of 1999."

"Chernobyl may seem distant, but the EPA estimates that there are more than 30,000 sites requiring hazardous waste treatment throughout the U.S. including Hanford and Three Mile Island. Phytoremediation with industrial hemp could be used at many of these sites. Unfortunately, the U.S. government refuses to legalize the cultivation of industrial hemp and clings to the obsolete myth that it is a drug. "

Right, hemp could also help clean up sites contaminated by coal ash like the area of the coal ash spill in Tennessee... good post Connie!

http://www.equalrights4all.org/bach/Ecology.html
To survive and flourish, we must find ecologically stable sources of raw materials, and eliminate pollution and waste. The amazing answer to both problems has been here all along: Cannabis Hemp.

Hemp For Ecology -- Most of our basic raw materials used for home and industry today come from mining, drilling and cutting trees. Using farm crops to make the same products means that we can stop destroying our environment and still maintain our high standard of living. Hemp has thousands of commercial uses: food, clothing, shelter, paper, fuel, oils, sealants, etc.: Anything now made of wood or fossil fuel can be made more ecologically with hemp. Hemp is a hearty, drought resistant, soil building plant that is excellent in crop rotation. Hemp does not need heavy fertilization or pesticides: In fact, an organic pesticide is even made from hemp. It plays an important role in erosion control, reforestation, weed eradication, wildlife habitat and cleaning the air. Help restore hemp and ecological balance to America.

Hemp for Soil & Water -- The plant's strong roots anchor and invigorate the soil to control erosion and mudslides. Hemp plants shed their leaves all through the growing season, adding rich organic matter to the topsoil tohelp retain moisture. Hemp is self-fertilizing and grows on the same ground for decades without the heavy fertilizers and pesticides that corn, cotton, tobacco and others need; and that now pollute 50% of our drinking water. Unlike fossil fuels, a hemp spill requires no cleanup; it even enriches the soil.

Hemp for the Future -- Some people mistakenly think hemp is no longer an economically viable crop. As you now know, hemp remains the most versatile and profitable crop on Earth. The legal penalties on using hemp now are just a pretext to confuse people and protect oil and timber companies from fair competition. This hurts America both financially and environmentally. Please help correct this injustice. Call your Congress member at 202-224-3121, and tell them to restore and regulate American hemp.

Great info !!! Now on permanent file in my brain .Thank you.

Do it for humanity.

yes , it needs to be planted everywhere Japan especially . good post conniepae !

True ! The Good Mother Earth has given us all we need , we are just not using it like we know we should ! Corporations think they have a right to dictate what we do like this , I wish we had never invented them . That seems tom me where everything went wrong ....

I would argue that cannabis, even smoked, is not harmful at all while cigs are very harmful... (watch: Medical Cannabis and Its Impact on Human Health a Cannabis Documentary)

But they also smoke the cigs and the cig folks don't the compation that the Herb will bring. Plus look at all the folks that could get off their Phyc meds if they took a toke now and then.

I wouldn't recommend anyone who has been prescribed psychotropics to stop unless by a doctor's order. However, I do agree that smoking marijuana in addition to these medications can be helpful for some people (e.g., anxiety, insomnia, etc.)

I can speak from first hand experience that it is not good to just quit your meds. How ever if with the help of your doctor you can get off them and smoke or eat a little of the Herbs then you will better off or at least I am. I may not be the norm

I have a Vietnam Vet buddy who was on anti-psychotic due to his time in Vietnam, including exposure to Agent Orange. He hated his anti-psychotic meds and swore that cannabis worked much better and without the horrible side-effects of the other meds....

Simple, I think you might want to study at some of the cannabis universities in California, Oregon And I think Washington now. It might help you.

Nothing is as bad as walking around in a fog like a Zombie all the time. Plus most of it is just a trial and error experiment. The side effects are just a nightmare

Bailey, hey man. I agree I have seen a lot of drug addicts go crazy on the streets when they can't get the meds they needed. I must say I have been missed diagnosed with different "mental Problems" when all it was was constant abuse that need to be stopped. I am not on any meds but marijuana for extream pain. I have no mental issues. there is no issue of people saying I am hostile because pain is ripping through me and the pain scowl is nothing but a smile.

Grab your pic loved it.

It makes me wonder why the hell we elected them in the first place....

they are not thinking they are lineing their pockets with the cash from big corp so they won't legalize. Greed is a powerful tool

I would never say that alcohol should trade places with cannabis. I actually think the damage that alcohol causes could be mitigated by offering a safer alternative in cannabis. Just as cannabis can be used responsibly as well as abused, so can alcohol.

I enjoy brewing my own beer, one day I look forward to using my homebrew to feed CO2 to my homegrow. ;)

i watched my mother die from drinking evans williams whisky took 10 years tried to stop it many times.i dont think we should trade one for the other.but the results of alcohol abuse
are ugly.my mothers family had many alcoholics.until you have had a loved one die this way you have no idea how bad it can be.moderation my friend wether it be alcohol or
cannibus.

Agreed. Voted up!

well it hasn't done you much good

Actually, it has done me a great deal of good, not least of which cured me of a life-threatening tumor in the pineal gland and of breast cancer (which allowed me not to have the breast removed) back in the eighties. On the other hand, not using it has allowed you to deteriorate beyond redemption.

That is because it is the same plant and a 2D top-down view won't tell you much about what's actually under the canopy, so they are correct in that point. But if that is to say that they couldn't spot medicinal plants in the middle of a hemp field from the air... well that goes back to my last point. Anyone wanting to grow bud would keep it far far away from any fields of hemp. It's like trying to hide a match in a fire...

The lack of basic understanding among our officials shows they are either ignorant of anything outside of a law book, or they are willfully lying to ensure they continue their policy of prohibition. Or, maybe they think they understand it based on what is in reality their own disinformation?

I've also seen many so-called professionals who claim to be authorities on the subject making completely absurd and contrary statements (even some who claim to be pro-cannabis don't always know what they are talking about). And these are the people who are supposed to help improve our policies?

the industrial hemp is different from medicinal cannabis, even though you may get fibers and other oils from cannabis, yet I will bet if you get some hemp and tried to smoke it all you get from it is a head ache. I have been with the marijuana effort for sometime as well as work with Voter Power here in Oregon. I new Jack Herer Personally. Enjoyed smoking and some good wine with the man. Look into some of my friend Eds books also you might get some more info to straighten some of your info out a little better.

Oh and you are right about the "they will hide the cannabis in the hemp", statement. The seeds we don't want unless you can faminize the seeds. why anyone would want to waste the buds I don't understand. Legalize it all, end of different beliefs of what to do with POT period. The underlying statement is Enough of the fear and stupidity.

Read my comment above... I said it's different but not much, only diff is hemp has been bred for height and seed and low resin. However you could produce a similar plant if you planted sativa strain in the same method as they plant hemp (little to no bud and tall lengthy plants) I know what I'm talking about already, no need to "straighten me out".

Sorry, but anyone suggesting destroying the medicinal buds I don't support and neither did JACK. The difference is to be separated. and I do know what I, an activist who associates with the People you are quoting, know also. I am arguing with about the DESTRUCTION of all that the cannabis will give. YOU are not a true hippy activist are you?

Whoa there... not sure I follow what you're saying. I'm not saying destruction of buds is a good thing, all I'm saying is that when a female plant gets pollinated, it stops producing bud and starts producing seeds... I think you are misunderstanding my point.

Your statements were somewhat incoherent... What do you mean by, "I am arguing with about the DESTRUCTION of all that the cannabis will give."???

And, no, I am not a "true hippy" activist, I am a modern day activist. "True hippies" were born in the 50's and 60's.... while I might not have known Jack personally, I have looked up to his work as an inspiration. I was sad to hear of his passing..

You do realize that I'm the person who posted this thread to begin with right?

ANY pot grown in overcrowded, low light, and pollen rich environment will be shit to smoke. I don't know why you're arguing with me. I never said industrial hemp was good to smoke...

I'm not saying I KNOW every thing because I KNOW the people you are quoting, I'm saying I have been at this a long time also and I don't like to see what you are describing done. YOU JUST WANT to start a little child's "I know what I'm talking about " triad that doesn't need to be there when I'm saying "Good job here's more you can use for study and learn with." But let's do with out trying to give the Rethug idiots any Ideas to curb our buds. Seems to me you just want to stamp your foot and in a tantrum and say "Listen to me now". Just like the people WE are suppose defending our rights against. Because you want attention. you have good posts, try not to taking constructive suggestions as an attack.

P.S I have been gardening sense 1976

Big deal Resumes' don't impress me. The Plant is not as mystified as you think. Legalization and education, yes. regulation not so much. I was paid to educate individuals on marijuana. and NO you weren't giving secrets away. (RETHUGS are sneakier than we like). a dime bag, in jail, big deal. Arrested for Violence, found not guilty, still spent time in jail and I'M IN A WHEEL CHAIR. Engineer big deal. When you have been a freshman in college when you were a freshman in high school then let's talk. I believe in EDUCATION not flapping your gums about "I have these letters behind my name". you SEEM smart. now will you check into some of those place so that we can stop those, who want to control us with more knowledge at our disposal?

OK, Thanks for showing how slow you are. 6 years. WOW. Sorry you were not smart enough to use College for gaining the points need for your high school graduation at the same time as knocking away your college credits. Did your above average intelligence even gave you a hint that was possible? I'm Glad I scare you. Tells me you're still insecure. Have a nice life KID.