"Make a list of all the environmental and social problems that today afflict us and our poor battered planet. - not just the extinction of species and animals and plants, that fifty years ago was the first signs of impending global disaster, but traffic congestion, oil prices, pressure on the health service , the growth of mega-cities, migration patterns, immigration policies, unemployment, the loss of arable land, desertification, famine, increasingly violent weather, the acidification of the oceans, the collapse of fish stocks, rising sea temperatures, the loss of rain forest. The list goes on and on. But they all share an underlying cause. Every one of these global problems, environmental as well as social becomes more difficult - and ultimately impossible - to solve with ever more people." - Sir David Attenborough
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4 comments // Article: PLANET AND POPULATION

  • Jeremy_Benson
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      Jeremy_Benson  
    • He seems so distraught and confused about why there is no vigorous discussion of the population problem, but after the eugenics programs of the early-mid 1900's is it really any surprise? As vociferous as I can be about most things, eugenics is one of the few you will rarely hear me mention; due to it's association with race-science and the conspiracy that the elite are going to kill us all to reduce population, I tend to be accused of supporting those things. I was once vocal about my support of eugenics, specifically applied humanitarian eugenics, and not only with the goal of population reduction but with removing the various contaminants in our DNA like viral RNA sequences - and let me tell you I've gotten some bad reactions to what seems like fairly innocuous proposals to me.

      Like Robert Anton Wilson, Carl Sagan, and FM-2030, I think civilian expansion into space would have been the best bet; to create large, orbiting, self-sustainable homes for large numbers of our population and free up that much space on earth. That would give 'sustainable growth' a new definition. The technology for such an initiative isn't too far off and we could certainly power through to such a vision within a couple decades with a concentrated effort. I say 'would have been' because I am not sure that is still a viable option for addressing this problem anymore: it would take massive amounts of time and money and people don't seem to willing to invest either right now.

      So can we reduce population with empowerment and contraceptive? Maybe, in the long run. I think a better question is: can we do it time? Can we do it without implementing birthing laws like China has? Or will we simply continue on until society collapses into violence and war? Or are we on the verge of such a situation, blind to it until we tip over head first?

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • breed breed breed breed breed breed breed breed . . . . . . .

      I FULLY,...FULLY,...agree - [ The sooner we stabilise our numbers, the sooner we stop running up the 'down' escalator. Stop population increase - stop the escalator - and we have some chance of reaching the top - that is to say a decent life for all.]

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • Damn - [ The population of the world is now growing by nearly 80 million a year. One and a half million a week. A quarter of a million a day. Ten thousand an hour.]

    • 1 year ago
  • remanns
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      remanns  
    • RIGHT ON.
      [ The impact of these extra millions of people has spread even beyond the space they physically occupy. Their industries have changed the chemical constituency of the atmosphere. The oceans that cover most of the surface of the planet have been polluted and increasingly acidified. We now realise that the disasters that continue increasingly to afflict the natural world have one element that connects them all - the unprecedented increase in the number of human beings on the planet. ]

    • 1 year ago
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