Community | April 29, 2011 | 116 comments

It's not about his birth, it's about his race

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Baltimore, Maryland (CNN) -- I will not click on the link to view the long form of President Obama's birth certificate. I will not participate in this final humiliation -- in the president's reluctant acquiescence in this ongoing smear.
The release of the president's long-form certificate proving his birth in Hawaii will not stop the attempts to discredit his leadership. The so-called "birther" movement veils a much more basic challenge to Obama's legitimacy. And yes, that challenge has a great deal to do with his race.
This is not new. Black leaders always have had to prove their "legitimacy" and their allegiance to America. The way to smear the NAACP in the '40s, and leaders like the Rev. Martin Luther King in the '60s, was to suggest that they were Communists working against America.
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Thurgood Marshall spent a good portion of his confirmation hearing for a position on the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals refuting charges that he was a Communist. Frederick Douglass pushed President Lincoln to allow blacks to serve in the Union Army as a way of proving to whites that blacks were worthy of citizenship.

Sherrilyn Ifill
This ongoing challenge to our legitimacy is the reason that so many blacks from earlier generations were told by our parents that we had to be smarter, more well-mannered, more well-spoken and more circumspect than our white counterparts. We had to prove ourselves worthy of the respect of whites, and to do so required proof that we "belonged." It's among the great ironies of race in this country that when black leaders display these same qualities, they are accused of "elitism," no matter how humble their origins.
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Now, even the first black president has been compelled to present proof that he "belongs" in the White House. No Harvard degree, no Nobel Prize -- not even the support of a majority of voters in this vast country is enough. More will always be required.
That's why so many of us are disturbed by the president's decision to give in and release the long-form document. We understand and respect that painful decision to try to refocus the country's attention away from these absurd distractions and on to the critical problems we face. But we also know that his gesture will do little to quell the ongoing challenges to his authority from people who will never accept his leadership. It's not about whether he was born in Hawaii. It's the imposition of never-ending hurdles, and it's motivated by the idea that racial minorities are "others" who must prove their right to have a real place in the leadership of American institutions.
Opinion: Will birther nonsense stop now?
It's no surprise that Donald Trump, the quintessential example of bloated, egocentric American wealth and excess, has already moved on to questioning the grounds for President Obama's admission to Harvard. No rational person doubts the intellectual gifts of the president. They've been on display for decades. It's hard to imagine a movement demanding proof that President George W. Bush was admitted to Yale or to Harvard Business School on the basis of his academic performance. The point is not to question Obama's intellect. The point is to suggest illegitimacy.
"I want to see the SAT scores," Patrick Buchanan bellowed two years ago on "The Rachel Maddow Show." He was referring to the nomination of Justice Sonia Sotomayor, then a sitting federal judge to the United States Supreme Court and the first Latina to be nominated to the court. These kinds of challenges should never be given credence. President Obama's release of his long-form birth certificate is a sad reminder of just how imperfect our Union remains.

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116 comments // It's not about his birth, it's about his race

  • congoboy
    • -4
      congoboy  
    • for most of us on the right it was never about race but about his shady corrupt friends, connections and associates. his attendance for most of his adult life in a church led by a bigoted racist wacko. his lack of transparency and his inexperience and inability to lead the greatest country in the world.

    • 1 year ago
  • bailey78
  • congoboy
    • 0
      congoboy  
    • bailey78:

      never said bush was totally innocent. shady and corrupt is first on the list of job requirements. unjust war? thats subjective, what about the unjust war in libya?

    • 1 year ago
  • bailey78
  • IrishmanHorror
    • +2
      IrishmanHorror  
    • Not only is it about his race, but also about actively and anti-patriotically railing against anything that isnt pro huge business. I agree that Obama has kept WAY TOO MANY of bush's old people and programs running, I also agree that at least he is fighting, and its very hard when anything liberal thats positive is never seen in todays media which makes it more difficult to gain steam with the public, and even more difficult for me to swallow is that he is a massively terrible negotiator with the right wing fanatics. "ok so heres 80% now lets negotiate" ??!?!?!? Obama has his faults, and they are: Not listening to his base, not fighting tooth and nail for public option, etc.. So his problems are not being more hardcore liberal.

    • 1 year ago
  • DeistofSurreal
  • congoboy
  • bailey78
  • congoboy
  • bailey78
  • congoboy
  • bailey78
  • maasanova
    • -6
      maasanova  
    • "On October 28, 2010, TSA announced a new screening technique entitled 'enhanced pat downs' in which security personnel will be using the front of their hands to pat down the torso on the sides of the body, down the chest and under the breast. If you plan on traveling through Boston or Las Vegas, expect an enhanced pat down."

      New Policy started under the Obama Administration

      http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20101115/tr_ac/7083592_new_tsa_pat_down_policy_leaves...

      Obama is clearly not concerned about women being molested at these horrible checkpoints.

      The Obama Administration is also planning to expand such plans to Americas streets.

    • 1 year ago
  • rustyred
  • maasanova
    • -5
      maasanova  
    • rustyred:

      We're cool with the black man!

      We just don't like $4.00 gas, being harassed and having our genitalia fondled at the airport, the war in Libya and the ongoing quagmires in Iraq and Afghanistan!

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
  • congoboy
    • -4
      congoboy  
    • maasanova:

      no doubt, the man continues many of the lousy policies that bush was lambasted for and adds a few of his own bad ones. expands our war like presence in the middle east spending billions and killing folks over there including our own and the leftylibs ignore all the travesty and horror perpetrated by their leader. some of the more intelligent democrats have jumped ship but they dont seem to be the ones responding on here. can the hypocrisy and bull shit get any deeper?

    • 1 year ago
  • rustyred
  • congoboy
  • rustyred
  • congoboy
  • coolplanet
  • congoboy
    • -3
      congoboy  
    • coolplanet:

      humiliation is limited to your time in the bedroom my friend. the rest of us whether proven right or wrong are way too mature to feel the limiting emotion called humiliation. we accept, forgive and move forward.

    • 1 year ago
  • jennilamb007
  • ThirdSection
  • Paratus
  • congoboy
    • -3
      congoboy  
    • jennilamb007:

      instead of parroting what your close minded leftylib friends share with you around the table at your favorite bar why dont you do some real research before you open your big trap.

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
  • BrushwithDeathToothpaste
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      BrushwithDeathToothpaste  
    • It is not about race. He is an unknown.
      We don't know where he was born
      We don't know anything about his mother.
      We don't know anything about his father.
      We don't know anything about his stepfather
      We don't know anything about his grandmother
      We don't know anything about his aunt
      We don't know what he did before he became a senator.
      We don't know where he went to school.
      We don't know his race.
      We don't know his religion
      We don't know what church he attends.
      We don't know how much money he has.
      We don't know where he grew up.
      We don't know what countries he has traveled to.
      We don't know how he feels about his country.
      We don't know what kind of beer he drinks.
      We don't know how he likes his burgers.
      We don't know anything about his children.
      We don't know anyone who has associated with him
      We don't know if he is smart enough to edit the Harvard Law Review
      We don't know how he voted in the Senate
      We don't even know if he can write
      We don't know if he can talk without a teleprompter
      We don't know shit

      It's not like his life is an open book or anything. I guess you have to be one of those elitist, educated, literate types in order to find out that information.

    • 1 year ago
  • rustyred
  • onemalefla
  • congoboy
    • -4
      congoboy  
    • onemalefla:

      like all party's and groups in the world including democrats they have their undesirable outlying fringe element of racists and detractors, but that does not make them a racist organization. stop believing the urban legends and myths perpetuated by the media and those who believe everything theyre told as being fact. someone with a lot of money is doing everything in their power to discount the tea party movement.

    • 1 year ago
  • Milieu
  • kennymotown
  • northernexpat
    • +3
      northernexpat  
    • Of course it's about race and the GOP have been happy to let Donald Trump take the lead because he is not really going to run and they can hide behind him. Donald Trump has done his job for the GOP in making older white voters fear the black President in the White House, while at the same time distracting them about the GOP's proposal to dismantle medicare and medicaid. I believe that the President released his birth certificate because the MSM were spending too much time on this side show rather than reporting the protest in the townhall meetings in Republican ridings.

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
  • rustyred
  • congoboy
  • KB723
  • Jusus
    • +4
      Jusus  
    • If Obama is not a citizen, He would have had to pull one over on the FBI, the CIA, NCA, and host of other alphabet agency. If he's done that then the entire Bush Administration should be charged with treason for not protecting America. I really don't care if people are racist you have that right in America, but lets call it what it is OK.

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
  • jennilamb007
  • savvy7
    • +1
      savvy7  
    • Jusus:

      " If Obama is not a citizen, He would have had to pull one over on the FBI, the CIA, NCA, and host of other alphabet agency."

      And if he WAS able to put one over on ALL of them, I definitely want him as President of the USA.

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
  • rustyred
  • congoboy
  • rustyred
  • congoboy
  • Leen61
    • +6
      Leen61  
    • Of course it's always been about race. That's why the tea baggers would shout "We want our country back!" Their country back? What that really meant was "We don't want that black man in the WH!" Same with their stupid "Don't Tread on Me" flags. Who is treading on them? Example. One of the houses I clean, their neighbor has 2 flags hanging on from their tree. One is the American flag, the other is a "Don't Tread on Me" flag. First, who is treading on them? They still have their McMansion and their money. Second, they really shouldn't have both flags flying together. It should be one or the other because flying the American flag represents our government (which they hate) as well as our country. Idiots.

    • 1 year ago
  • northernexpat
    • +2
      northernexpat  
    • Leen61:

      This is what has really confused me about them hating the federal government so much but always maintaining that they are the real Americans waving their American flags. But then again I also haven't quite understood why a person who wants to dismantle the federal government would run as a federal congressman or Senator and then take their pay and benefits as if it their due while they screw the little guy.

    • 1 year ago
  • Leen61
  • congoboy
  • Leen61
  • jubal
  • Milieu
  • rustyred
  • congoboy
  • jubal
  • congoboy
  • Milieu
    • +2
      Milieu  
    • RE: maasanova

      "I guess it is lost on this writer that Bush had to undergo a fair amount of scrutiny to prove he was eligible for the presidency as well,..."

      And there will always be those questions, if for no other reason than English was not Mad King George III's first language.

    • 1 year ago
  • Juas
    • +4
      Juas  
    • Some people cant just accept the fact that a black guy is the President of USA
      The fact that America is falling is not helping either.

      They are unconsciously looking for the responsible for this mess and they are been manipulated by the media that is the "radical fact-hiding Obama" the one responsible.

      All that, when the real responsible are hiding.

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
    • -2
      congoboy  
    • Juas:

      you know if you leftylibs would get off the dank long enough and open your eyes you'd realize race has never been the issue with most of us. if the man had been white and ran on the same platform had the same shady corrupt friends and associates, went to church with a bigoted racist pastor we would have rallied against him just as vocally. of course if he had been white with all those same flaws you libs wouldnt have given him a chance either and hillary would currently be the president and between the two i would have voted for her.

    • 1 year ago
  • crystalman
    • -10
      crystalman  
    • Americans' greatest fear (by far) in life is to be called a "racist." Even though they know they are not racist, they just can't bear the thought of being called one. You can take their jobs away, ravage their savings through inflation, foreclose upon their home, screw their children's future, trash the memory of their great ancestors (especially the WWII generation)... they will take all that. But they just can't stand the mere thought of (falsely) being accused of racism. And so, they'd rather jeopardize the future of their children... And that's why we have a marxist radical in the WH. Americans somehow wanted to "prove" something. The crowds in 2008 were utterly irrational.

      There is one stupid thing Europeans would never have done: they would never have given the most powerful job in their nations to a total unknown with a shady past, a complete lack of experience and questionable friends and acquaintance... not in a million years.

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
  • jennilamb007
  • congoboy
  • congoboy
    • -1
      congoboy  
    • SFirman:

      hmmmm, just wondering where you get your misinformation and whether you and your leftylib drinking buddies see it as fact...
      A harsh reality check from Mort Zuckerman at USA Today, reinforcing every word uttered in the video above.

      The full article is a must read but a few specific portions clearly show how Barack Obama and America because of Barack Obama, is seen through the eyes of the rest of the world.

      The reviews of Obama's performance have been disappointing. He has seemed uncomfortable in the role of leading other nations, and often seems to suggest there is nothing special about America's role in the world. The global community was puzzled over the pictures of Obama bowing to some of the world's leaders and surprised by his gratuitous criticisms of and apologies for America's foreign policy under the previous administration of George W. Bush. One Middle East authority, Fouad Ajami, pointed out that Obama seems unaware that it is bad form and even a great moral lapse to speak ill of one's own tribe while in the lands of others.

      Even in Britain, for decades our closest ally, the talk in the press—supported by polls—is about the end of the "special relationship" with America. French President Nicolas Sarkozy openly criticized Obama for months, including a direct attack on his policies at the United Nations. Sarkozy cited the need to recognize the real world, not the virtual world, a clear reference to Obama's speech on nuclear weapons. When the French president is seen as tougher than the American president, you have to know that something is awry. Vladimir Putin of Russia has publicly scorned a number of Obama's visions. Relations with the Chinese leadership got off to a bad start with the president's poorly-organized visit to China, where his hosts treated him disdainfully and prevented him from speaking to a national television audience of the Chinese people. The Chinese behavior was unprecedented when compared to visits by other U.S. presidents.

      The damage to America's reputation because of Obama's incompetence will be felt for decades to come and the best descriptor is on page two of the USA Today article at the very bottom:

      America right now appears to be unreliable to traditional friends, compliant to rivals, and weak to enemies. One renowned Asian leader stated recently at a private dinner in the United States, "We in Asia are convinced that Obama is not strong enough to confront his opponents, but we fear that he is not strong enough to support his friends."

      The warning signs were there long before Obama was voted in, but no one listened. Conservatives warned of Obama's lack of experience but that was waved away as partisanship... fair enough, but conservatives weren't the only ones warning of Obama's inexperience as the video at the beginning of this piece shows us.

      I was never a Hillary Clinton supporter, but I did admit freely that her performance during the 2008 presidential campaign did force me to grudgingly respect her abilities and even though I would have preferred McCain to Obama or Clinton, but if I knew without a doubt that it came down to Clinton or Obama, Clinton would have at least had the backbone, the experience and the know-how to lead with strength and would never have allowed America to be seen as "weak" as Obama has done.

      The best we can hope for at this point is that in November of 2010, the Republicans take the House of Representatives and/or the Senate and limit any further damage our on-the-job-training president can do to our country until 2012, where hopefully, we elect a president, Democrat or Republican, that can mend our relationships with our allies and show strength against our enemies.
      http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2010/06/how-world-leaders-view-obam...

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
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      SFirman  
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    • congoboy:

      I will only answer a little of the book you wrote me. First I don't drink, but I do have some republican friends that may not agree with everything Obama does, but like him better than Bush. The video was made in 07 when the primary started. Now both Clintons like Obama.When our allies visit the WH they have good things to say about Obama. I am referring to the leaders of these countries. I don't know about Putin, but the Russian president likes Obama.

      Most of my information comes from MSNBC. Hillary Clinton had abilities to be president. I voted for Obama but would gladly have accepted her.

      Since Republicans did take the house in 2010 i don't know why you bring it up. So far what have they done? they were voted in by the tea party on jobs, so where are they?. All they can do is bring down the country as Bush tried to do. The Ryan budget will take Medicare away, put SS in the stock market. and give the rich another10% on top of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. If they take the WH in 2012 this will be done.

      If you are watching the news the people of our country love our president. Bin Laden is dead. The president ordered him taken dead or alive. I hate to say this, but i'm glad he is dead. A trial would be lengthy and would cost a lot.We will take the house back in 2012. I will vote Obama no matter what you throw at me

      http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/05/world-leaders-congratulate-obama...

    • 1 year ago
  • congoboy
    • 0
      congoboy  
    • SFirman:

      believe what you wish. but i am also glad osama is dead and happy to say so. taking him out was one of the bush policies i am happy to say is mission complete

    • 1 year ago
  • rustyred
  • congoboy
    • -1
      congoboy  
    • rustyred:

      obama got it done by using bush enacted policies and doctrines. you know we can thank obama for not ending bush policies or closing guantanamo as he promised he would during his campaign which helped in getting that cut throat 7th century bastard. but you know something else, had obama not run on those promises of ending bush era policies he never would have been elected. so either way you look at it we can thank bush over obama. but as i said obama deserves a little credit for not pussying out and continuing what bush began otherwise the world would be just a bit more dangerous today. peace

    • 1 year ago
  • crystalman
    • -7
      crystalman  
    • http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/04/obama-refuses-to-release...

      What's he hiding? Everything about him is cloaked in fairy tale narratives and lies. He is the President. He serves us. We demand to know. We must continue to call him out on it.

      The media, in the greatest act of perfidy, did not vet our candidate. Never will we trust them again. They are the propaganda wing for the uber left.

      And this is the thing, they know that those transcripts could destroy the "myth" they created. This is precisely why the BC was released as soon as Trump started talking about Obama's school records. They knew then they were in trouble. It's one thing to mock people for asking for a BC ("birthers") it's another to ridicule someone for asking for something as simple as academic records. Really? What's the big deal?

      Now, by releasing the BC they can say, "All right, enough is enough... you wanted the BC, you got it. Let's move on now. Let's stop with this silliness... blah blah blah."

      Trump needs to continue going after the fraud-in-chief

    • 1 year ago
  • 2helenahandbasket
    • -6
      2helenahandbasket  
    • Oh for Pete's sake. Here we go once again with the 'race' thing. There are dozens of questions about Barak Obama that have never been answered. We know less about him and what he did in the past than any president in history. He has brought many of the questions on himself by his refusal to allow us to know about him. He, himself, has made it seem that he has something to hide. Why else would he refuse to turn over his school records, university records, state bar records, even his Senate records and schedules, health records and any any other information that we, as citizens, have the right to know about our President? HE's the one who has made us question exactly who he is. It has nothing to do with race for most Americans. We DO know the radicals he hung out with in the past, but he passes it off like it was nothing.

      Race? Balogna.

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
  • jennilamb007
    • +1
      jennilamb007  
    • 2helenahandbasket:

      It's bologna.....sing the oscar mayer song. My bologna has a first name, it's O-S-C-A-R. My bologna has a second name it's M-A-Y-E-R. Oh I love to eat it every day. And if you ask me why I'll saaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy. Oscar Mayer has a way with b-o-l-o-g-n-a.

      Thank you every body. Good night!!!!!

    • 1 year ago
  • savvy7
    • +2
      savvy7  
    • 2helenahandbasket:

      What is it you'd like to know, that you don't? What did you know about any other president that you don't know about him, IF you cared enough to read about him; IF you cared enough to read his memoirs, or IF you were curious enough to do a little independent research yourself. President Obama does not have to justify his legitimacy by publishing his academic records, nor would you even think to ask it of Mr. Reagan, Mr. Ford, Carter, Bush, (either one), or Clinton. Did you demand proof that Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar; Proof that Reagan DIDN'T have Alzheimers after sleeping through several National Security meetings, or G. W. Bush's National Guard records, the records that "magically" disappeared? Not racism? So, unless you're claiming you just came out of a coma, your post reeks of racism, and that ain't no bologna.

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
  • SFirman
  • maasanova
    • -5
      maasanova  
    • I guess it is lost on this writer that Bush had to undergo a fair amount of scrutiny to prove he was eligible for the presidency as well, not only with the vote fraud with both elections, but also with his military records, questions about his drug use companies he had bankrupted, his Harvard school records among other things.

      http://crooksandliars.com/taxonomy/term/6198,5058,6831

      Are we to say that it was because he was white that he faced such scrutiny? No, it's completely laughable to play the race card.

      See the problem with Obama is the total lack of transparency, even though that was one of his key campaign pledges. I'm not defending Bush but at least the White House made most of his records public, whereas the Obama White House has kept Obama's records sealed.

    • 1 year ago
  • WagonMaster
    • +2
      WagonMaster  
    • Hell yes it's about race...it's Always been about race. Nobody ever gave a squat where he was born, only about being born black. I knew this as soon as he announced his run for Prez.We white people are so predictablly bigoted.

    • 1 year ago
  • Arizona_Huey
    • +4
      Arizona_Huey  
    • No other President has been forced to defend his citizenship, EVER. This is one thing, and one thing only - the fact that he is a black man with a non white / Muslim scary like name. I'm not sure how much more obvious it can be with Donald Dump questioning how he got into Harvard other than because he was black. Donald Dump is the face of racial bigotry and hatred and the more he speaks, the more ugly vile toxin spews out.

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
  • Paratus
    • -8
      Paratus  
    • It's not about his race but it sure is about everything else. You guys are really getting geared up for the 2012 election. The lies of "racism" are already being raised. I bet the proponents of victimhood will brand as racist anyone who runs against BHO on the theory that merely wanting a different president qualifies as racism.

    • 1 year ago
  • Saladin
    • +7
      Saladin  
    • Paratus:

      Right, so when someone insists that he's a foreign national even after being shown two birth certificates now, they're just a good ol' Patriotic American being skeptical right?

      You're fucking clueless. Or maybe you don't even care. You'd rather defend racists than ever have to side with Democrats.

    • 1 year ago
  • cherry5000
  • macchugsid
    • 0
      macchugsid  
    • cherry5000:

      You have got to be fucking kidding! Really, I mean really. That is just to fucking crazy. My 11 year old grandson knows the branches of government. He even knows who our Senators and Congressman are. Now that is a truly clueless troll.

      thats as bad as a righty I know telling me the Preamble doesn't count because it is not an Amendment. Clueless.

    • 1 year ago
  • Paratus
    • -4
      Paratus  
    • Saladin:

      Being a foreign national has nothing to do with race. IT is not about race but you morons are so filled with hatred you don't care about the truth, or facts. And some wonder why we consider the left to be so dispicable

    • 1 year ago
  • Paratus
  • rustyred
  • Paratus
  • cherry5000
  • Mark701
    • +6
      Mark701  
    • I agree, it's about his race. No other president in the history of the United States has had to put up with this kind of bull shit. Past Presidents have been grilled about their programs, their economic, social views even their wars, but NEVER whether they were a legitimate US citizen. This attack, at such a base level strikes not at what Obama does, but who he is. Sadly this idea came out of Hillary Clinton's campaign. But it was elevated to the height of insanity by tea baggers, mental lightweights like Palin and Trump along with Faux News and a good number of GOP congressmen. Oh yeah, and he was a liberal too.

      America is brimming over with bigotry and hatred and still refuses to acknowledge it. I don't have any illusions we ever will.

    • 1 year ago
  • CreditFigaro
    • +5
      CreditFigaro  
    • I'm pretty sure it's not about any of these things, it's about the fact that he wants to raise taxes on the wealthy.

      This is the only reason that it's an issue at all.

      Republican playbook: Distract masses with stuff that doesn't matter, like concern over gay marriage and whether Barack Obama is a Muslim/citizen.

      You know, I remember when the democrats complained about the fact that the 2000 election was rigged, and wanted to investigate... a real issue of great concern.

      The Republican response? We don't need this in our country right now, we have bigger things to worry about. The country needs a leader.*

      * Even if he wasn't fairly elected.

    • 1 year ago
  • maasanova
    • -5
      maasanova  
    • It's not about his race it's about the current direction of the country, which incidentally is the same course of direction prior to his election.

      If you keep key members of the previous administration, such as the Fed Reserve Chaiman and the Defense Secretary, plus a gaggle of the same kind of plutocrats as before, you can't expect much change.

      But sure, let's play the race card and avoid the issues.

    • 1 year ago
  • CreditFigaro
  • maasanova
    • -3
      maasanova  
    • CreditFigaro:

      How so?

      We've got most of the stuff that people complained about under Bush exactly the same as it was since Obama was elected.

      I'm referring to Gitmo, the warrantless wiretapping, the general harrasment of political dissenters, white collar criminals, real criminals like the bankers going free, gross incompetance when it comes to disasters (Katrina = BP Oil spill) the torture (no investigation, we're still at war by the way), and let's not forget the two wars plus one new one.

      Plus on top of that we've got TSA fondling women and children's genitalia and this is being done under the " first black president."

      To me, Obama's Homeland Security allowing women and children to be sexually assaulted at airports is the most egregious indicator of the direction of the country.

      But if you want to say that it's because Obama wants to raise taxes (like that'll ever happen), ok sure.

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
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      SFirman  
    • maasanova:

      The problem with what your saying is there not talking about the issues. There talking about birth certificates, his school grades, his religion etc. This is racism.

    • 1 year ago
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      maasanova  
    • SFirman:

      Perhaps the religion part, but even that is questionable since religion isn't a race. If someone were to call Obama an Arab, then maybe that could be perceived as racist, but every president or potential president's religion comes under intense scrutiny.

      It's not racism to delve completely into the backgroud of someone who has access to the largest stockpile of weapons of mass distruction on the planet and who is allegedly making decisions that will potentially affect millions of people.

      The argument of racism in this instance holds no water.

    • 1 year ago
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      SFirman  
    • maasanova:

      Perhaps religion was not the right word, Birthers calling him a Muslin was racist Of coarse there's still the birthers, even after he released the long form that call it a fake as if this intelligent man would be dumb enough to release a fake. Not talking issues. Racism!!

      Since you brought it up, this president has been in office over two years. Where has he used weapons of mass destruction?

    • 1 year ago
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      maasanova  
    • SFirman:

      The birth certificate is a non-issue.

      The White House, the Obama administration and the media are just playing up the issue to distract Americans from $4.00 gas, the declining value of the dollar via Fed Reserve monetary policy, the war in Libya, the upcoming wars in Syria and Iran...you know, important stuff.

      Plus by discussing the birth cetificate and race constantly, there is no discussion on what a dissapointment Obama is, which deep down, most Obama supporters who are honest will conceed.

      Plus I never said that Obama has used wmd, but he does have access to the nuclear launch codes.

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