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Top 5 Conspiracy Theories About Osama bin Laden's Death

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Now that Osama bin Laden has been found and killed, it's just a matter of time before the conspiracy theorists start coming out of the woodwork. I'm going to beat them to the punch and offer up these theories in advance. If you are a conspiracy theorist, consider this a favor — I've done the hard work for you.

So here they are, out of left field and in no particular order:

1. It wasn't really him — I mean, they apparently did a DNA test, but did you see it? Neither did I. Maybe bin Laden had already died somewhere in Afghanistan, or was presumed dead, and the US government just wanted bragging rights. The fact that they buried his body at sea means this theory isn't going to go away anytime soon. Photos of his body would help, however.
2. He was actually killed earlier — This possibility suggests that bin Laden had actually been killed quite a while ago, but the announcement was delayed until it was politically expedient, or perhaps until he was no longer effective as a source of fear. It becomes a bit harder to defend when one considers that the raid was quite public and probably witnessed by neighbors, but I suppose that could have been staged to look like the real thing.
3. He tried to surrender but was killed anyway — The basis of this theory is that the US government wanted to avoid a lengthy and controversial show trial that could drag on for years, and simply wanted to kill him and be done with it. Actually, an anonymous senior official has already said that it was a "kill operation".
4. Pakistan knew all along — If you read all the details about the compound where bin Laden was holed up, it should have raised some red flags within Pakistan's government long ago. It was in a military neighborhood for goodness' sake! How did nobody know? Pakistan wasn't told about the operation that killed bin Laden — was that out of fear they'd tip him off and allow him to escape?
5. The date of the announcement is suspicious — May 1st is International Worker's Day. It's also the anniversary of the founding of the Illuminati. But perhaps most conspicuously, the announcement came 8 years to the day after Bush's "Mission Accomplished" speech, suggesting that this time the mission is well and truly accomplished.

Some of these theories seem to have some logic to them, but on the whole I can't say I believe any of them fully. The possibility that he actually died years ago while fighting in Tora Bora seems to hold the most weight, in my mind at least.

Have I missed anything? Let me know if you hear of any other theories, and post your comments here: http://talkingskull.com/article/top-5-conspiracy-theories-about-osama-bin-ladens...
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76 comments // Top 5 Conspiracy Theories About Osama bin Laden's Death

  • Jake_Leonard
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      Jake_Leonard  
    • "conspiracy theories" is a derogatory term for people who connect the dots in a way not accepted by mainstream media, or the public by large. People generally believe what they want to believe. Whether you're taking a "conspiracy theorist's" stance, or following the crowd, the sources are in somebody else's hands. The way I see it is that if there is an incentive or justification, and a means to do it (power/money), then by all means at least consider the possibility. It wouldn't be the first time our government double-crossed us. Every empirical "fact" derived from the scientific method is first derived from a theory (or hypothesis if you want to get nit picky). The only thing a conspiracy theorist has done is provide an alternative to the accepted outcome of an event with which you hold no more empirical evidence in the norm than they do with their alternative theory.

      Regardless of my personal takes on these "conspiracy theories," I find it frustrating that there is this socially oppressive atmosphere toward people who go against the grain--who theorize on other indeed possibilities. One should never attempt to discredit an individual via a label, only through reason.

    • 1 year ago
  • SamuraiDave
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      SamuraiDave  
    • Jake_Leonard:

      You have to admit though some conspiracy theorists have brought this on themselves for a variety of reasons. Some of it is just psychological in that they actually are paranoid obsessives. With some as I mentioned before, it's just a kneejerk reaction to disbelieve anything they hear automatically rather than any actual intellectual sincerity. In both cases these types will often refuse to listen to counter-arguments and even go so far as to accuse those who argue against them as having ulterior motives.

      Case in point - some months back here I argued over the fallacies of the Zeitgeist film and one of the poster said they were suspicious of me as though they thought I had sinister purposes. Gimmeabreak!

    • 1 year ago
  • Fishinflick
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      Fishinflick  
    • Jake_Leonard:

      Absolutely. This blog is being overrun with knee-jerk conspiracy debunkers. False equivalency abounds along with idiotic name-calling. They're either naive or ignorant of history. Dastardly deeds are rarely uncovered but there's been plenty brought to light. And there's a debunker behind every last one to the bitter end...

    • 1 year ago
  • Suziqu
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      Suziqu  
    • dumping his body at sea - is this common for muslim burials?
      disposing of his body so quickly makes the whole event more like the media hoax in the movie wag the dog.

    • 1 year ago
  • SamuraiDave
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      SamuraiDave  
    • Suziqu:

      According to Islamic tradition, a dead body must be buried within 24 hours and sea burials are permissible though land burials are more preferred. In this case though they didn't want a martyr shrine to be formed by a land burial

    • 1 year ago
  • figgdimension
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  • SamuraiDave
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      SamuraiDave  
    • As much as I believe in the axioms "question everything" and "think for yourself" I think some people take these concepts at face value and question everything in a kneejerk reaction rather out of any true intellectual sincerity. It's part of their personality so they have to question everything (particularly if it comes from a source they don't like) rather than give it any real thought.

      In this case with Osama Bin Laden's death, the usual suspects crop up in their locales calling it fake. I would ask why now if it's fake? Wouldn't it have been better in his first year to show he kept his promise or in 2012 when the campaign season kicks off?

      Some think this has locked up the 2012 election hence the reason for Obama to do this now but look at Bush Sr. He had two successful military actions under his Presidential belt but a year after his Gulf War victory, he was defeated. There's plenty of time between now and Nov 2012 for a disaster of some sort to cause Obama's ratings to plummet.

      I think if this was a crafty conspiracy plan, it's either too late or too soon to be effective - and don't say it was over the Birth Certificate nonsense! No one paid attention to those nutters until the Donald stoked the fires which Obama shot down with the long form of the certificate. Only the diehard birthers were still bitching but by then they were even more of a joke than they were before.

      Then of course the other excuse is that it's wagging to the dog to avoid the issue of the economy. Again you'd think they would have saved this till the campaign season - or if that was too obvious, just before it.

      Now for the others who said Osama's been dead for years, wouldn't Bush had tried the same thing either in 2004 for the re-election or in 2008 on his way out to ensure his legacy?

      Just doesn't make sense to fake Osama's death now ---- unless of course it was to divert our attention from that fleet of Nazi UFOs that landed in Roswell this week.

    • 1 year ago
  • Tyr
  • Persecuted
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      Persecuted  
    • ya know, i am a democrat, a liberal, an obama supporter. i rarely give into conspiracy theories... actually i never do... but this whole situation even raises MY eyebrows... so for you to act like people who have questions are crazy nut job conspiracy theorists is false and condescending... there are some MAJOR issues with this whole story... and we SHOULD question our government on all things... they have given us not ONE reason to believe that this story is real and destroyed all evidence that it might be within hours.

    • 1 year ago
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  
    • Persecuted:

      I've just been having fun with this but I do agree that this is some seriously fishy stuff. It does not seem crazy to me to question this. Maybe it is all as true as being reported but how will the public ever know for sure.

    • 1 year ago
  • Persecuted
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      Persecuted  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      yep... it would just help me to know some time lines.... what is the exact time of death, when was the dna test ordered, what was the exact time that the dna test came back, where was the dna test performed and where did the original sample to compare it to come from?

    • 1 year ago
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  
    • Persecuted:

      Right? I am with you. My favorite part is the burial at sea. He is a mass murderer that did not die at sea. He had no respect for the thousands that he killed. Why exactly must we have respect for his religious beliefs?

    • 1 year ago
  • Persecuted
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      Persecuted  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      thats what i thought... i wonder where our respect was for the people we tortured to get this information from... if we are so concerned about the muslim religion and the dignity to be bestowed upon anyone who carries the title of muslim, why are we occupying their lands, killing their children, torturning their soldiers, and killing their leaders? (not that bin laden wasnt a murder himself, but i find that having holy lands invaded for thousands of years tends to upset some people)

    • 1 year ago
  • EdJoyProductions
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  • dugdog47
  • dugdog47
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      dugdog47  
    • I think there is alot of facts our government isn't telling us about alot of the events of the last ten years.

      Anyway you dice it, sharia law is not compatable with our way of life.

      Are the current American wars about oil? Probably.

      Are the elite trying to take over the world? Maybe.

      Was this whole story of OBL's death put out now, on this day, to cover up some real news or just to distract us from the mess our country is in? Who knows.
      But I'll say this, only we the people have the power to take back our country.

    • 1 year ago
  • freecrack
  • Tyr
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      Tyr  
    • osama Bin Laden was a cia agent who was being used to identify all the terrorist in the middle east so we could catalog them for later political use and he and Elvis are living on an island owned by Donald Trump. The reverend Wright set up the deal so that Obama could be reelected and he could become secretary of State. It is a well known fact by the tea party that Osama and Obama are actually cousins and are conspiring to control the world...I don't believe he is dead until and unless I actually get to see the Long form death certificate signed by a REPUBLICAN doctor ..or Glenn Beck. Also I need to see for the folks in Arizona, his certificate of circumcision ...otherwise there is no real proof...where IS his foreskin?

    • 1 year ago
  • dudefromtherock
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  • Tyr
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  • dudefromtherock
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      dudefromtherock  
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    • Dead my ass...here they are whooping it up in Hawaii.Bin Laden is a master forger and presented Obama with his masterpiece the famous birth certificate! Pictures don't lie people!

    • 1 year ago
  • SFirman
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  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  
    • Osama Bin Laden is now living as a woman and working as a hooker in a Florida truck stop. The alleged DNA sample was from his discarded penis during a very amateurish and gruesome sex change performed by a couple of his pissed off wives.

      Prove it isn't true! :D

    • 1 year ago
  • dudefromtherock
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  
    • dudefromtherock:

      I think that Florida truckers pay extra for the beard, but when I made the story up, I did not go that far into detail. Now that I thought about it, yes he kept the beard and charges a premium as a bearded lady prostitute.

    • 1 year ago
  • EdJoyProductions
  • Tyr
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      Tyr  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      The good people in Arizona are demanding to know where is the foreskin that could establish the fact that he was in fact circumcised ? They want to see the cut penis in order to confirm that it was in fact him and where is the blood from the umbilical cord?

    • 1 year ago
  • EdJoyProductions
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  • Wicks934
  • floydyboy
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      floydyboy  
    • #2 Benazir Bhutto told us he's been dead for years. Then she was assassinated. Also Hitlers death was announced on May 1st, 1945. Seems fishy to me. Where are the pictures? Where's the video? Seems like a good time to make such an announcement, with all the election talk starting up.

    • 1 year ago
  • maasanova
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  • Cruzankenny
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      Cruzankenny  
    • This is where progressives fuck up a wet dream. Obama found and ordered the execution of Bin Laden. Got rid of his corpse in a way that it couldn't be used as leverage and oops, he was finished.
      HuffPo has a "slide show with comments". 38 pictures and 31 were Bush, his old administration and Republican front runners.
      Bush invaded Iraq, Bin Laden was in Pakistan where he probably arrived from Afghanistan. If Bush was truly looking, it was under the wrong tree, yet this site, a supposedly progressive site, have to promote conspiracy theories; that's your only contribution. That's why you can't get together enough to vote these Tea Party yokels out.
      Go play with your tiddly winks.

    • 1 year ago
  • hoosierdaddy
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  • Numbz
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      Numbz  
    • These theories aren't as outrageous as I was expecting... I want to hear what the real nut jobs comes up with.

    • 1 year ago
  • NiceN
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      NiceN  
    • This is all just an elaborate ploy to sell t-shirts and bobble heads. Osama is dead monopoly games and Snakes and Ladders.

    • 1 year ago
  • IvanMiletic
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      IvanMiletic  
    • When Goverment tells you so many half truts and fabrications,it is hard to believe anything first hand,There is so many vested interest in all this drama..To many organizations and policy makers profitiong from all this myth of Bin Laden...Even 911 is never exsplained completly(for one,black boxes were never found,and way buildins "folded down'...Myself I am not convicted HE is dead,and if HE is is not man they "MAKE HIM UP TO BE".Simply,all this story is not convicting,if you think intelligently and not just "absorbing news".

    • 1 year ago
  • jamjaminyourmouth
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      jamjaminyourmouth  
    • IvanMiletic:

      I agree with you that he isn't that bad a lot of people think i am crazy. I try to explain when your raised in a war stricken impoverished country your a product of your environment and theirs a lot of harm America has done to other countries to make cause for their hateful behavior. Nonetheless this country is free and privileged at least compared to most.

    • 1 year ago
  • DavidYates
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      DavidYates  
    • The problem isn't whether any of the various conspiracy theories are true, though it would be good to know, but that the evidence has been destroyed.
      Once again, as in the 9/11 when all of the rubble was shipped out and the NTSB
      didn't, for whatever reason, reassemble the plane wreckage, such as it was, we are left with the impression of the suppression of evidence and quick disposal of the corpse. Is it true? All we have now are the official story with "take our word for it"evidence and conspiracy theories without adequate information to dispel them. The government seems incredibly inept at proving whether they are telling the truth. I'm sure cynicism will fill in the gaps.

    • 1 year ago
  • jamjaminyourmouth
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      jamjaminyourmouth  
    • I personally think 9/11 and this war are part of a set-up. So many corporations have profited from this war and have done it before. It would interest a lot of you to see whom would claim share's in these "war profiting companies". As Well as how many fake names were jotted off as deceased on 9/11 for insurance claims, and who collected. But as long as everyone is going to make Goddamn Easter parade out of this i might as well pop a bottle or 3 hahaha. Turning a blind eye to the truth just gives me a little twinge of some good Ole fashioned Americana

    • 1 year ago
  • Arizona_Huey
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      Arizona_Huey  
    • I guess if you've watched way too many X Files type programs you've become lost in a world of psychosis that the simple plain truth is too easy and there must be another explanation. The fact that on one hand, these birthers / conspiracy theorist can complain about a government so fraught with inefficiency and stupidity that it can't run even the simplest of programs, yet can ramble on continuously and constantly with totally unfounded accusations of how this same inept organization can come up with, plan, and execute such far reaching, complex and mind numbingly complicated missions is beyond my comprehension.

    • 1 year ago
  • stupidamericanz
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      stupidamericanz  
    • Arizona_Huey:

      I can see why anything would be beyond you comprehension sounds like too much american news tv for you hahaha you government lie many many time that is why real people don't believe anything they say imagine that ow wow

    • 1 year ago
  • stupidamericanz
  • punisher68
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      punisher68  
    • I believe that no one knows if he's truely dead. If he was dead, I doubt that the U.S. and Britain, or even Russia would have just played it down so much. It's like it's already old news too. Here's one more theory.

      "President" Obama has a severely ailling status with the public opinion and he and his cronies know that if this "victory" is announced, he may have at least one positive mark on the political board to help his next campaign. Truth is, we haven't seen hyde or hair of him, nor heard directly from him in years, and no one really knows if he's dead or not. It's just another lie and political tactic for the globalists to gain the trust of the people of the United States. A small plan inside one large plan to deconstruct America.

      How was that?

    • 1 year ago
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