Story of Bin Laden’s death looks like staged fairytale – military analyst

What do you do, copy and paste?

I think our definitiions of "clear" are not that similar. My definition with clear involves a story to remain unchanging from first telling to second telling. So far, I'm getting revised details every day from the people who told the story in the first place. Clear, this story is not.

that reads about write

As to how Bin Laden could live at his home in Pakistan for years...well, I'm sure he had front men to get the place built. He did not go around the neighborhood and introduce himself. He did not do his own shopping.
How many people here in the States know their neighbors and what they are up to? Just think of serial killers that have been hiding in plane site for years.
The more affluent the neighborhood the easier it is to hide.
Even where I live, in a small town in southern Oregon 1200 population, I don't know everyone nor what they do for a living. There are some very wealthy people, judging by their land and homes, that live near here, and the people I know don't have a clue as to who the owner are or what the owners do, and in some cases have never seen the owners.....

You're talkin about serial killers with hidden identity's who come out of no where. But when you're an identified man with a long history of relationship with the US and virtually the whole world is looking for you? C'mon...really? He used to work with the CIA! You don't think they have a shit load of info on him that they couldn't track him down in 10 years? I mean I guess you could suggest that our CIA sucks that much but I find it very hard to believe.

I may be wrong, but if I remember correctly, it was under Bush that the CIA stopped looking for bin Laden in 2005 and it wasn't until Obama that they began their search anew. My point about serial killers was that their neighbors were unaware of their activities.
Another example might have done better, the long search for Nazi war criminals that has taken years.
We have a witness protection program here in the U.S. where people receive new identities. If they follow some basic rules, they are safe and not found by those that would do them harm.
On a personal note, it took us 20 years to find a friend of ours, that was not in hiding. He has a common name and many people in the area he lives in have the same name (including middle name).
My point, is that it is easier to hide than people think.

He was able to live there for 6 years because the Pakis were helping him.

it comes with being clueless

It greatly benefits a wanted man to FAKE his own death. It allows you to operate while throwing off those hunting you. So yes, there are a few reports of his death. It only makes sense that there would be. -If police where protecting you from the Mofia, they might fake your death, change your identity, and move you to a safe location for safe keeping.
i.e. some suburb out in Arizona.

Also, you have no idea the WEALTH of information we have now that we have access to his computers and info. We're talking leaders, locations, plans, operations, etc.
If you cut off the head, and the body will die.

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Warning! Warning! Will Robinson... Warning!
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I'm not looking at a fake picture. I don't even want to see the real one.

they first say he had gun and hide behind wife and you believe then they say no gun and no hiding behind wife and you believe tomorrow they tell you something different and you believe

where i find wife and children and they say they watch it happen what you need a brief about? you on internet is that what do something real mean the only thing i see is a story, everyting you tell me I can make-up and you believe

I hear tell rumors that Jesus Christ will be comin round the mountain when he comes...

You left out Jim Morrison

Or the latest 'bin Laden' was a clone from 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers.'

I thought we did this already?
Yes We Can becomes YES I DID
Then you go all Carl Rove on me...

Is this a Bill Murray Groundhog Day skit?

i speak you language baaaaaa baaaaaa

get you education. learn speak proper english.

I salute you... nice post

You're welcome, samantha420. I just calls 'em like I sees 'em.

Great post, scooter. ITA. You bet Cheney is still in charge. He don't live in VA for nothing. He didn't return to Wyoming.

scooter I had heard that DC had his own assassination team as well....

That is what I heard as well, KB. If he was just going to fade away and be a non-player, he would've gone back to Wyoming as Leen61 pointed out. He bought a house just a few miles away from Quantico. Coincidence? I don't think so. He wasn't ready to hang up his Darth Vader cap quite yet.

Lame that my and Every American's taxes keep that Cat on the face of the Earth... =(

You bet, DianaCancer. Saw this on Colbert. And it was oh so true. Cheney and his man size vault in his office as reported by Jon Stewart. He wasn't keeping his stamp collections in there. Don't tell me he's not still getting the daily intelligence briefs to this day.

You got that right, KB.

Don't tell me he's not still getting the daily intelligence briefs to this day. ... Just like all good megalomaniacs.
My husband jokingly brought up something today; since bin Laden was shot in the head it had to have been Cheney who fired :-)! Maybe the truth is 50% of that -- Cheney is the one who told them where to shoot.

Very nice, wolfess. You and your husband are to be commended for the due diligence. Which brings up the possibility that Cheney's guys misheard the name of the target and took Obama as Osama.

And who was Poppy Bush's Secretary of Defense? Well looky there, Richard B. Cheney. Isn't that a coincidence. I agree that Bush the Elder has had control over the presidency since he was Ronnie Raygun's VP. We are living under our own monarchy here.

And Rove got his start in politics during Nixon's presidency -- what fun it is to play 'connect the dots' >:-

Yeah right... sure crystalman

THANKS FOR THIS UPLOAD! i had my own speculations that osama has been killed, however to keep war efforts intact his dead was not released until now.

Thank you Samantha for this.

Very good post/video, Leen61. Stacked up against the usual substantiation we receive from the government, from a pure logical perspective, I'll give this guy more credence than what usually comes out of the resident press secretary. It's only tin foil hat territory when you can logically and categorically dismiss and debunk it. The Pentagon's usual line of BS plays more like bad stand-up comedy than take to the bank facts. That's why the story always keeps changing. Don Rumsfeld immediately comes to mind.

Thanks scooter. And you made good points.

Im sure he is dead , but the issue isnt if he is dead but when and under what circumstances did he die , if he died during the bush administration and then a cover up was done by the obama administration , it shows a clear link of a conspiracy between both parties , meaning that possibly the democratic process is comprimised at the top.

That funding for the war may have continued under false pretenses and that now he has been announced dead the reasons have been created to continue the patriot act and continue to create and enforce new legislation taking more and more individual rights from citizens in order to exercise more dictator like control on the people.

Benizer Bhutto expressed that he had died some years back and lets be honest she was a pretty credible source , so just by showing the fresh corpse they can put all of the speculation to rest.

RMatt please keep them informed. They will resist but they know it is the truth!

I have a feeling the facts don't matter to some posting here today. I also have a feeling the right is completely beside itself, hence, the troll action. Talk about pathetic and desperate.

Oh, don't bust up the big party.

The elois are so desperate to feel anything good about Obama and our country at this point, they'd cheer Obama as he ran over a toddler if Obama spun it as having been done for "national security" and in retaliation for "9-11."

If GW had really had "mission accoplished" instead of just putting on a show with his pants too tight and if he had tried to kill Osama and done so Republicans would have had parades, and declared him St. GW Bush. Airports would be renamed. You guys are such fakes and hypocrits.

I rest my case.

You have no credibility here. You post some criticism of Obama or progressive positions everyday. Blah, blah, blah.

"Be careful guys Obama just going to kill anyone anywhere and then do test to see if he killed right guy and Hope" Should read: Be careful guys, Obama is just going to kill anyone, anywhere, and then do the test and hope to see if he killed right guy.

It must be true. You really can spot members of the Tea Party by their piss poor grammar and spelling. Not to mention their lack of intelligence and education.

Right!!

You have it all villains-and-heroes, with a story for the stupid people of this world.

You fail at English!
It seems your reading-comprehension levels are well below the 5th grade level.

Wow you see evidence can you show me and us?

I said 'supposedly', buddy. See? First word. And it has not yet been really contested by anyone remotely credible. There's speculation, sure, but that's not worth much. Beyond that, you may believe what you wish.

They are already changing the "official story."

Oh really? I did not know this... and don't really see anything off hand after a quick search. Mind linking me to something?

I did find this, though:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/national/050311-doubters-say-bin-laden-live...

But, really, I am waiting to hear more voices from the muslim world before I make any firm commitment to an opinion. I want to see what Ahmadinejad and various voices from Egypt and Syria have to say, as well as Awlaki and others with close ties to Osama and/or al qaeda. And to take Occam's Razor to it, pulling such a huge lie on an international level would require either a major set of balls on Obama, or a massive international conspiracy involving multiple heads of state. If it is the former then enough evidence will surface soon enough. I doubt the latter.

Sheeple Quote "But given the evidence and reasons presented, I see no reason to doubt the official story unless more evidence comes to light."

Bin Laden's daughter confirms:
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/05/04/147782.html

See, you keep on talking about how it must be a conspiracy or a lie, but talking is all you're doing. Prove it, buddy. My mind is open, is yours?

1. Because there is no evidence it occurred.

2. Because it was not a "military victory"--it was one murderer killing another murderer.

3. Because there is no indication that our military and our president will change their Bush-Jr-inspired approach to dealing with foreign countries, especially the ones that are weaker than the U.S.

4. Because we love our country and don't want to see it damaged any more than it has already been damaged by the Bush/Cheney/Obama administrations.

5. Because if they can get away with this, it just ensures they will be able to get away with something as bad--or worse--in the future.

If you can't handle examination of the "Obama's Miracle in Abbottabad," then perhaps one of the cheerleading folders would be more in your comfort zone?

America is the global terrorist

Or... it does the complete opposite. If it's a lie... which most things our government says nowadays ARE... then what they're doing is rallying support for an unpopular war. Essentially, our government could be trying to justify genocide and war crimes. I don't think that's something to celebrate. Do you?

I think it's wrong to not demand the whole picture here... and when we're done with that, we should demand that the war be ended, and that the IMF be dismantled, and so forth...

What's happened here, no matter how you look at it... is an unjust war that's been fought for money and power. It's nothing to celebrate. We still haven't even gotten the answers to what happened on 9-11 demanded by over 1,000 civil, structural and architectural engineers. As far as I'm concerned, Osama could be innocent... and we could be guilty of far greater crimes. This country was, in fact, founded on the principle of being innocent until proven guilty... and I for one think that Osama was just a scapegoat. The kind that Karl Marx always said you needed to control the opinion of the masses.

Obama made reference to 9-11 NINE times during his speech.

Since even the FBI says that there is no hard evidence linking OBL to 9/11 (and that's why the FBI has never charged OBL with any crime related to 9/11), why would our president try to scam the American people into thinking there is?

I would say: "For the same reason GWBush/Cheney scammed Americans into believing there is a connection between OBL and 9/11."

Obama has already implemented or continued so many of the Bush/Cheney most heinous policies---murdering someone for a crime he has not been accused of, and lying to the American people to make them think he was guilty of 9/11 crimes is just the next step in the Bush/Cheney Third Term as President.

I'm not saying we shouldn't get the whole picture or that America doesn't have blood on it's hands. I myself personally would have rather seen Bin Laden made to stand in a court of law and answer to his crimes. But we all knew that wasn't how this was gonna play out. I'm sorry if pride in my country this once is a bad thing to the conspiracy theorist on this website.

I would agree that America is a global occupier not a terrorist.

Our founding fathers were basically "conspiracy theorists". They were rebels. They wanted freedom, and so do we all. They would roll in their graves to see the state of this country now. They fought against EXACTLY what we've become. Jefferson (For one) was ADAMANTLY against the federal reserve, which is now where we make our money. I often think that it was the last final insult to our founding fathers to have their faces printed on corrupt and controlled money that they basically fought to free us from.

Pride is okay, I guess... but foresight and unbiased judgment are much more important for the long-run survival of a civilization... or, in our current case... a species.