How Many Gays Must God Create Before We Accept That He Wants Them Around?

That is a Great comment and question bambuu...

You took the words right out of my mouth...

Glad to see you kb723: Query for you: Has this site been invaded by People of the Corn or is it just full moon again? There are an awful lot of nasty comments out there...Have a great day.

It has been a bit crazy lately... Have a Good Day as well...

i applaud you for this logical and very rational stance.

not to mention a great moral stance

Thank you: Have a great day.

Yeah a Guy would think.... I work with the same Sh*tHeads that are just like that... =(

Yup!!! I agree.... =)

SO Do the nice people, if they suck good that is.

That's Great Stoneyroad.... =)

I agree samthesixth, but they just don't see it that way... =(

God was on the divine herb when he made gays..... I mean happy people. And just how is that not divine creation ?

...and rainbows.

So we agree POT is Davine?

That's a Great Idea BenjaminDover...

I like the image of them sinking into the briny deep still waving their stupid signs.

OK Ben, hate to be a wet blanket, but AREA DISPLACEMENT..... FLOODING.....OK New York has some good people....were was I going? OH, Ya Area Displacement and flooding of dry land with all of the dead who are god hates fags......well you get it.

Very Cool chief_longhair, I am glad we agree....

Yes Earl_Dixon I feel the same....

Good Evening tlbuffin, we sure may check below... ptr23 was graceful enough to share his name... =)

Glad you added that last part, you seem to be pretty smart, so how is it you still follow the Bible?

Im not going to worry too much about what a book says about gays or sin considering this particular book seems to like incest, murder, rape and torture..

Keep this nonsense in a church where it belongs. Its got no place in government.

I believe the majority of people here would like to see things from your point of view, however, the vast majority of people here are not capable of shoving their head that far up their ass!

"Being gay is a sin."

As is eating pork, and shaving your beard, and a whole host of other obnoxious BS that is totally irrelevant in this era.

The whole point of making religion a talking point is so that the rich can control the masses and make them fine with huge tax cuts for the top 0.1%.

Why else would a political party mix religion and state?

Oh Leviticus, good old book of the law, so let me ask when was the last time you ate a ham? What on Easter, look at you going to hell now, let me ask you this, ever seen anyone in your family naked? Going to hell! How about shrimp, you like those little abominations? Were you ever disobedient to your parents becuase if you were not only are you going to hell, according to Leviticus you should be stoned to death. Ya Leviticus, great book to live your life by, oh by the by hope you never have a daughter, if she slips and loses her flower to early, Leviticus says you should slit her throat. Now go forth find a lamb without blemish and kill it in the name of the lord.

Found a new one, Leviticus 21:9 And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire.
Let me ask, should we follow this one, cause then I have two cousins that we need to start getting the fire ready for.

According to the old law in the Bible sin was punishable by death. Christ came to redeem us from the curse of the law (death) by giving the ultimate sacrifice "His Life". By grace we are now able to repent and turn away from sin. ( which is a daily struggle for everone) No longer do we have to sacrifice a lamb or put people to death because Jesus was the last sacrifice for our sins. To comment and make joke of a serious matter only shows me that you haven't studied the Bible. "Wisdom is the principal thing; therfore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding". Proverbs 4:7

* Again if you don't believe and live your life according to the Bible then this means nothing to you. If you do keep asking why?

You didn't answer the question: Have you eaten ham... do you plan to ever again?

You haven't repented from your "sins."

You speak of Jesus so much, but wasn't he a big critic of being hypocritical?

Speaking of sins... how is one to know anything about God? Is he not Fathomable? If so, how can you possibly understand what a sin or morality is?

Speaking of hypocrisy...

Ridiculous.

Oh I get it so becuase your straight the book of Leviticus doesn't apply to you, but gay guys and gals are a totally different story? Sounds like someone is being a little picky and choosey if you ask me, but then again you never did so I will just go back to destroying the world with my sordid affairs. Kiss kiss.

Hey a bonfires a bonfire, Ill bring captain and coke, and growing up in MT left me with many useful skills, one of them being I can start a fire any time anywhere.

That was just awesome, you have my undying fondness for one sentence "You didn't answer the question: Have you eaten ham... do you plan to ever again?"

the bible also mandates death for cursing your parents (Leviticus 20:9) or committing adultery (Leviticus 20:10). Why aren't those who quote the bible as literal law rushing to obey this injunction?

-Leonard Pitts

Because they will ALL be put to death.

Thank ya, kindly.

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Good point, and of course we don't have to look far to see nations that are attempting to quite literally apply these types of religious laws, although even they do it selectively.

The thing that frustrates me is that true Christianity is not about man, nor about how well he keeps or doesn't keep a set of laws. It is about forgiveness, because whether we like it or not, there is right and there is wrong, or good and evil. The fact of being human seems to have a peculiarly clouding effect on our ability to always know where the lines between right and wrong are actually drawn. We are either all guilty or we are all perfect....and there's not a whole lot of evidence for the second premise, so I'm going with the first one, and counting on that forgiveness.

Hmmmm, Okayyyy, Next Please....

Interesting progression, let me see if I can provide a rejoinder:

If the purpose of life is to procreate the species, then gays fail and they are therefore useless.

If the purpose of human life, insofar as human life deserves special distinction, is to flourish, which can be accomplished by being homosexual if the situation demands such, then animals (save perhaps great apes and dolphins) are incapable of succeeding at life, and they are therefore useless and morally irrelevant, which seems highly improbable, or at least not very palatable.

If human beings do deserve such a distinction from animals in the regard of life's meaning, then you would expect homosexuality to be a uniquely human trait, but we suspect this is not the case.

If you contend that homosexuality is an inter-species phenomenon, then the explanation of life's purpose becomes more conflated and demystified, so our only logical options are despair or joy. Human beings have obviously chosen despair, so perhaps this is the case, but I can't say trivialising life in this sense is very advisable...

First of all, tip of the hat for the Trump intro.

Second, I'm very familiar with IVF technology, but if you introduce that, you're just getting into the second notion, which distinguishes human purpose and flourishing from animal purpose, insofar as animals could not take advantage of IVF without human intervention.

(Also, I wasn't presenting an argument, simply a conditional.)

But has it ever been that way, really? I look at history, I look at culture, and it seems they all have their gods and their beliefs and have built their customs and laws around those systems of belief.

I'm not arguing your point, just wondering if there ever has been a completely secular society...

I think your logic hinges on the either or presuppositions of your conditional, that "the purpose of life is to procreate the species...or to flourish." Genetically speaking, we have come to believe that, and the evidence overwhelmingly supports that supposition, but then there are things that we haven't quite figured out yet, like the vast amount of material that has been labeled "junk DNA." And yet, slowly but surely, we are beginning to realize that there really is no such thing as "junk DNA."

Phased out DNA, perhaps, but we aren't even sure about that.

What if the purpose of life is to be good stewards of what god has given (the earth) , to love and be loved ?

There most certainly hasn't been a purely secular society anywhere at anytime, that's why I said in an ideal world.

It -should- be all that matters. Unfortunately, it isn't.

Most people have already pointed out what I was going to say, so I'll just add a couple of things for you to think about. Also, sorry you were voted down so much, I didn't think what you were saying was that bad.

The word "purpose" is a necessarily relative term. There's no such thing as an objective purpose, not even for a designed and engineered object.

A book can be a doorstop, a murder weapon, a paperweight, a (bad) frisbee, a stool, etc. Or it can just sit there and do nothing, forever, and be of no use to anyone.

All of these things can happen even though it was only ever created for a singular purpose. To be written information easily accessible to certain people.

People being the key word there. It was made for people. To bees or dogs or trees, (or even certain people) books serve no purpose. Thus purpose is always relative, as it refers to utility, not -meaning-.

Don't be too hasty to attribute our "purpose" to simple procreation. Realize that we're the very first species on this planet to even be able to -question- whether or not we have a purpose, and that questions itself might be rather meaningless, as many philosophical questions are. Meaningless in the truest sense of the term, as in, you're asking a question that doesn't make sense.

Also, as others have pointed out, gay people do procreate, it does occur in nature (there's actually an entire race of lesbian lizards in New Mexico and Arizona) and you're certainly not arguing the same thing for infertile people.

As for despair and joy, I'm not sure I have any idea what you mean. I can perfectly in despair or in joy regardless of what I think my purpose is, or whether or not it's "correct."

Also, it isn't clear at all that we're -supposed to be- happy or joyful. It's certainly what we think we want, there is no way to move from an "is to an ought" as Hume famously pointed out.

Bravo...nicely done, and I also agree that what Ares said was not worthy of down votes.

Very Well said warman1138... =)

Hmmm. Great comment dalistuff... =)

Yes but conservatives never will....

So true

+^d!

Great comment ChristopherX...

Thank You ptr23.... I was not aware this happened yesterday, but still appreciate your stopping in and helping to know who this gentleman was... Many Thanks, and Yes I agree, I think that guy was pissed that people applauded...

Apparently You do.... There are many articles listed, why you chose to stop by and Spew is beyond me....

Why are you here?

Check out the avatar.

Yeah I saw that OrchidBlack... Perhaps I should have asked why he chose to Goose Step here???

Oh my god, I'm going to cry you a river babe.

equilibrium

No mames guey

Centrifugal...

It does indeed tlbuffin...

You are the epitome of a bumbling idiot. How are you going to have a white power avatar and then appropriate a Mexican slang phrase? The irony…

This isn't stormfront you ignorant, racist prick.

Well aint you just a little ball of sunshine and roses.

Not anymore!