Islamic Mob Burns Down Another Church in Egypt

correction...first we put their leaders in power then take them out when they get naughty. you might be exaggerating the raping thing just a tad, who'd wanna? and they spread enough og their own fear and lies we dont really need to enhance it now do we? a couple of vandals in the u.s. spray painting mosques? one or two bits of vandalism hardly equates with murder and church burning over there.

not a word, although it would be polite if they at least sent me a short note. i did send them a complaint which you saw. i guess they questioned the content of the post and finally realized they were nearly guilty of censoring the truth whether it was truth they liked or not. there really wasnt anything inflamatory about the piece, unless you happen to be an unreasonable misdirected aplologist

That is almost the final straw for me.

dont give up the good fight. the constitution, integrity, righteousness, truth and the american way are on our side

I don't want to but if they are going to engage in that kind of censorship, I am not sure what else to do. I had a number one story yanked for "review." It was off the page for half a day or so while the censors did their thing. They posted it back up with no information as to why they had done it and no answers to any of my emails. Of course, when it came back it wasn't even top fifty.

If someone flagged your posting because they disagree with your point of view, it should take the censors all of 1 minute to read it. And they don't have to take it down to do that.

agreed, welcome to obama's america

nothing a liberal could do would surprise me

so we continue to give a pass to those who murder in the name of religion?

why not... we proudly claim our pass to murder in the name of national pride

if youre talking bin laden, that wasnt murder but an assassination. but maybe burning churches and murdering christians is a form of national pride for some egyptians

according to obomba its ok. check with him

an unrealistic view of the world as seen by a drug addicted wife beater, nice try. now get the 3rd world degenerates to get on board and maybe peace has a chance

yes, i was afraid of this when all the celebrations were going on. the history of the middle east has mostly been one ruthless dictatorship after another. one regime falls and a worse one rises up

well said general

Respectfully, while I understand your broader point, I think the Christians who have been killed for being Christian in the last month in Egypt, Afghanistan, Somalia, Ivory Coast, Indonesia, Iraq, and Pakistan would rather have "go home" sprayed painted on the side of their churches for their beliefs than lose their lives for their beliefs.

It's all about hatred, and all religions kill. Just look at Bush's war in Iraq. One of the names for their campaign was BOAZ. That isn't a religious biblical connotation? They were still fighting the Crusades. This isn't about just one religion in context. Many of all have lost their lives senselessly due to this hate and intolerance that manifests itself in many ways.

not all of us blame all muslims. but the ones that are peaceful need to speak up a little louder.

and a sensible comment sam

good thought jan.....wonder why we cant all just get along....(R.K.)

not to mention obomba's wars in afghanistan and libya

they're speaking... the media portrays what they think will get ratings... violence gets ratings

oh, so thats why the radicals in egypt are murdering christains and burning down churches

finaly we disagree.i say peace can only come from devaluing religion to a level much like sock preference.

I could get behind that, because really choice of religion is little different from sock choice, people just get more uppity about their choice when religion is involved. Can you imagine, the ankle sock crowd burning down the wall mart where tube socks are sold? Just the idea makes me giggle.

and on the 8th day the lord created the knee high sock and forbade adam from wearing the ankle socks.to be deemed un kosher or haram.
and he who defies the lord shall suffer atomic wedgie till dead.

silly.but as about as reasonable as stoning some one for not observing the sabbath

one day we will argue something damn it lol

Someday we will argue something. there has to be something out there we disagree on.

That is what Islam believes. One religion or no end to the violence for those who seek a different religion.

Can you claim the Christians really for real believe anything different? Not bad or wrong I'm just saying we are all really the same once we strip away all the bullshit. Our society and culture is in a different stage of development than the middle east and Islam, we have left behind much of our individual violence and exchanged it for other forms of expressions, but violence is still very much an important part of Islamic culture, you can see if from the roots of their childhood well into their adult lives, violence in their lore and daily lives is given a place of prominence. Its not bad or wrong it just is, and when working with the middle east we have to recognize that, we also have to recognize they have a right to their beliefs and their way of life. In time they will change themselves, their religion will die, and they will become a different people, but by that time the same thing will have happened to us. Who knows in 100 years we could be even more violent then they, it is really a very short time the we of the west have been quite so non violent, just look at WWII, and before that we were even more violent and brutal look at who we were in Med evil times. Our past is really far darker than theirs, so just remember our society could be pushed to reconnecting with that darkness and then we could be worse than them, or we could all turn into a bunch of hippies. But my fantasies never come true so the hippies are prob out, although I would be fond of an extremely violent society, wouldn't have to pen up the rage so often, could be nice. But I digress, my point is in the end we are all the same, the only thing that separates us is our inability to see that.

If we are free from money , the religions would have little power , i think .

Freedom from money would be nice, but there is currently no political or technological option that makes that viable, communism and socialism are both too corruptible. Technologically speaking if we could make it viable for everyone to get everything for free becuase computers do all the work then violence would eliminate itself, there would be no needs big enough for one to risk ones life in the pursuit of what another has, I think that would in and of itself kill religion.

Uniting the entire world under one religion is what the Muslims are trying to do!

I didn't say it was a good idea, just that it would end a lot of violence. Personally I think the world would be a better place if we all just stuck to science and left the gods to themselves.

peace only follows death

i prefer sockless

sure theres a similarity in some of the dogma, but modern christians do not murder in the name of religion

barter power!

now if you can just get a few billion folks to agree

Perhaps they believe the same thing. It is what is required of the non-believer that is different. In Christianity if you are a non-believer, you go to hell in the next life. In Islam a non-believer is subjected to second class citizenship in this life (dhimmitude) or death.

Sure Christians of Western Europe and North America, but Africa is rife with conflict between Christians and Muslims. Serbia and other south eastern European nations are defined by the divide between Christians and Muslims. In all cases the crimes and horrors mount on both sides, the beginning of the wars forgotten filled now instead with only hate and malice, no one really knows who started it, they fight because its what is done. Its been this way for hundreds of years. Either sides recognize their own actions and strive for peace or neither will ever know it.

The human race has a lot more growing to do before we are ready for such things, but we can have a goal in hand, and strive. Education is the answer to all questions we may have, and the problems that go with them. An end to violence will only come when the world understands how little we need it. Not bad or wrong but as long as minds remain simple the tools we use to work with each other will be simple. War is simple, it is having the courage to face the task of avoiding it that will define us one day. That day is not today, and it is a long ways away.

So the language of one religion differs from another. Look at Africa, the middle East, southern Europe in countries like Serbia, the results are the same. Hate runs thicker than blood on both sides, with neither side able to see through all they have crated between them to see they are really both the same, they just use different words to describe themselves.

and christians do not do that? i thought it was the job and duty of the christian to convert everyone

Christians do not typically lop off the heads of anyone who disagrees, in my experience.

Correction , no option YOU know of . A combination of timebanking and barter , would do nicely .... just use the old imagination .

I agree , facts are superior to "beliefs" .

leaders and rulers in that part of the world prefer to keep the masses uneducated and ignorant. they are easier to control that way. the same tactics to some degree are used in this country as well but americans in general are better educated and are less inclined to fall for the same bullshit. politicians of most persuasions around the world including in the u.s. prefer to keep folks in the dark

Barter is still currency, all you do with barter is reduce the size of goods available in an area and create thousands of tiny economies in every town that are far more disconnected from the other economies, but in today's world that really doesn't fit well, people would just go back to gold and from gold back to money. And yes i'm sure there is a better option out there, the world just hasn't met it yet.

Consider that those people in the middle east think that it is you who is ignorant and not they. They learn what they believe to be important, things like theology have many well respected students, where we have scientists they have clergy, where they have theologians, we have lawyers and judges. But when your really real about it the purpose and the function of these people is the same, we must find the understanding surrounding our similarities before we can understand the difference. I ask can you not see that your belief that their religion is bad and wrong is the same as their view of yours.

i am not against those who practice the religion peacefully and who are open to the idea of living side by side in harmony with others of differing faiths. not all of them are ganging up on and murdering christians or burning down churches. but sometimes the silence of those who are against such acts is deafening. it is really the leadership who is mostly to blame for the ignorance of the masses. but still, one is responsible for ones own actions.

..And timebanking ? What do you know about that ?

Well Ill admit I know pretty much nothing about it I mean to google but got busy.

Ok So I googled, and I dont know that could be a viable option to replace currency, however that is not to say that is amazing. That looks something really beutiful, it has the potential to greatly enhance the sense of community in towns and city's across the country. That looks like an amazing resource, and something that could really be amazing inside of a community.

Glad you did . I would like to see it used in most instances , with regions bartering large quantities of what they produce . each region could rate , what they have with what they want . If you have apples , they could have a trade agreement for so many shoes , or other equally valued (rated item . Time banks hours have already been used to finance community building projects .

Apples and oranges.

you really should travel to the u.s. more often. generally we take a more civilized approach by just protesting although theres always a miniute few here who take to violence and vandalism. hey the past is the past how long we gonna blame whitely for travesties of yesteryear. as a jew maybe im due some reparations from egypt, i still harbor resentments going back 5000 years. but those middle eastern islamo-facists? they really know how to spread the flames of hatred ( no pun intended )

I think "reminiscent of" sort of semantically makes it apples to apples ; NOT saying "the same as " in a point for point, feature to feature correlation or equivalence.

Perhaps you are correct.

Just protesting? Civilized? Tell that to the families of thousands of middle eastern women and children that we have murdered in the past decade. I want to know... what is civilized about that?

nothing civilized about war, whether its justified or not. war is hell even when perpetrated and supported by obama. but there is no excuse for a bunch of radical, backward, 7th century retards burning churches and murdering christians. and yes here in america most of us, at least on the right, protest in a non violent civilized manner. leftylibs? thats another story.

you're talking out of your sorry ass. It's the Muslims attacking the Christians dumbo. It's the Muslims who want to dominate the world and subjugate non believers. Christians are being persecuted and murdered all over the Muslim world.If you don't want to know this, then beat it.

Spoken like a true radical Christian fundamentalist. Just keep ignoring the Muslims killed in Bush's Iraq Crusade.

Religious fundamentalism is simply a 'my God is better than your God' pissing contest that has resulted in many unnecessary deaths.

You are part of the problem if you are not part of the solution.

so where does that put obomba?

put crystalman in the out to pasture first

I do believe it was US who invaded THEIR country, and murdered thousand of innocent women and children. If you believe 9/11 was an act of terrorism by any one other than our own government you are a fool. It was a ploy to implement the Patriot Act, and thanks to Christian white folk the Constitution of the United States is only good for wiping the asses of Congress.

wait for it......

yep...remarker has already contributed...they're a dime a dozen around here.

We are all horrible, its part of the human condition.

I agree with you. Man is inherently good and evil and illogical. It is what makes us human and why a social system based on man being good to each other will not work.

Hence why communism fails every time, it assumes a good nature in humans and forgets that we must assume humanity's evil. Hence why capitalism is so perfectly imperfect, it assumes on both the good and evil of men. But there is always something better out there, if only we will seek it.

Didn't they bother to consider that if there was indeed someone inside, they might have killed her?

killing and murder is in the hand book

next time I go to Egypt I'll take a truckload of MDMA to spike the water suppy with...that might clean out their poisoned twisted minds and ready them for ....wait for it.....love. Can you imagine, the Arab world loving?

stop teasing me like that