thanks for sharing. Now go hide in your cave with your tin foil hat...

And do you have any evidence to back up this claim? No? Oh ok, then I suppose you should just go about your business and shut the hell up

And who's going to call you a "rat"? Rupert Murdoch? Jon Stewart? So your job is to provide "information" without any proof? Sounds like you're taking a page right out of the Fox News playbook. Give it up bud, your baseless accusations aren't fooling anyone.

Mr .Tibbles ill tell you what? Step out of you way of thinking. OK ..after you finish that; and listen close cause this is the vital part. Every time you hear any bit of news rather it be local or national research it...I am not asking anyone to be a sap and just take my word or anyone else for that matter. But all i am going to say is get off current cause you'll never get the real from a war Profiteering website. Start going underground for your news info. Be an original individual. Good luck tibbles

name a better political satirist, i bet you like dane cook and carlos mencia you window licker

I name as i see fit and as followed by current news. And window liker ? Really ? Are you serious? baahahaha I am not going to make time for anyone who owns 1999's urban dictionary or chooses to use ignorant slurs. Get a job; better yet get a better one, and read a educated book then get back at me.

I get my news from quite a few places, thanks. And yes, by not providing ANY sort of evidence(especially while claiming you have it) when making a claim such as yours, you are indeed asking everyone here to take your word for it. War profiteering website? Please elaborate, I'm begging you......

p.s. - I've done a few searches and have turned up nothing even remotely close to what you are claiming. Just provide me with a single shred of evidence, I promise I'll keep an open mind about it.

And to think, here I was thinking you might actually be able to provide me with something concrete, but alas, you disappoint me once again. You see jamjam, that's how intelligent, logical people debate a subject. One makes a point, then provides evidence to reinforce the aforementioned point. They don't make a wild accusations and when asked for proof say "do your own research, you'll see!". Even better, when someone actually does search for evidence, are unable to find any and thus requests it once more, an intelligent person doesn't reply with "well you're just not looking hard enough!"....And you say I'm the naive one lol.

To be honest, no, I don't believe Jon Stewart is being "paid off", especially if it's to tone down his attacks on Fox News. If you've ever watched his show, you'd know that Stewart rips on Fox News almost every episode. He's almost single-handedly turned Fox into a joke in the eyes of many Americans. Not exactly "toning it down" if you ask me.

You had a dog named mr_tibbles you say? That's interesting, did he talk to you and tell you that the aliens are coming to get you? Or that the CIA put a chip in your head and are secretly reading your thoughts? You should be careful, I've heard that only tin foil can prevent them from reading your mind, but I'm sure you already knew that considering how often you go "underground" for your information. Ok ok now I'm just having too much fun with this. I'll stop.

In all honesty though, there's no point in arguing with you any further. You obviously get off on making stupid accusations and then trying to convince everyone that you have proof even though you refuse to provide them with any. You're full of it, and everyone here knows it. Have a nice day jamjam.

"nieve" is actually spelled naive. You should use a dictionary if you are going to lecture others.

I have a life so I sometimes don't get around to responding to things right away. You started with a suggestion that Jon Stewart is paid by Fox to tone it down that you pulled out of your ass. Of course people are going to respond.

i just figured window licker was up ur alley, and the saying that you are smarter then someone else online makes you look dumb , anyone can say that they are smart, its just like saying my dad can beat your dad up,just to let you know you didnt name a better political satirist that was the whole point SMARTER THEN ME MAN

You remind me of a guy who was here before... jam-something... Oh well.

Well, you can claim all you want, with all the evidence you want. However, the lack of exposing that evidence will lead people to believe that you are: a) lying, or b) trolling.

Proving your POV with facts is the best way to convince others, not "holding their hand". Unfortunately, you don't really care about points or facts it seems, and are only being a contrarian for the sake of argument. Or because you don't like Stewart. Or both.

It's cool guy, do your thing; guys like you detracting from the topic without saying anything of relevance or validity tend to self-destruct or not last long.

But perhaps you already know that?

Indeed!
The user name says volumes here...jamjaminyourmouth.
What could this 10 year old moron possibly have to say that would have any value.

What does it say when shows like Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck are considered "news" and not "entertainment?" They should be in the same group as The Daily Show, because they opinion shows, NOT journalism.

I think it is rather fitting for our times. If they had had TV back in Twain's day I think his show would have a similar premise to that of Stewart's & Colbert's.

Um, maybe I'm reading this wrong, but these look to be the ratings from only 1 day, June 2.

Do you realize that is only one day's ratings, and does NOT even include John Stewart at all?

Just like a FOX viewer- can't do any research.

Its a week of ratings.

OK, well these ratings are for the whole month. So your point was stupid.

Fox News a major media news organization? Comedian or not, Jon Stewart has more credibility than they do. But I don't know how you draw a false equivalency between Fox and every other new organization in the world. Evening news has a limited time to air a certain amount of news. It's not the ultimate system for depth of subject, to be sure.

No, I agree in principle. I'm thinking more in line with anchors like Brian Williams when I talk about the false equivalency. Note that Fox doesn't have a national media desk like the other networks, all news is divvyed up (sp.?) either locally or through the national propaganda machine. Local TV news is a joke. Our Fox affiliate thinks that what happens on American Idol is news. They also like to string together like stories to give viewers the impression that there is a "trend" going on, which serves to propogate fear. That's why on some nights they'll show three straight house-fire stories, or a string of loosely related crime stories etc. So we all sit there and say to ourselves, "What the f*** is going on out there?" and hide in the corner sucking our thumbs with our teddy bears.

Yeah, it's pretty funny when comedians have a tighter grasp on reality than journalists.

And as the old saying goes "it's funny because it's true".

While fox is neither funny or true.

Scathing indictment of our country that this perception is reality

Sure it is. YOur bias just gets in the way. If you choose to get your news from a comedy channel that would explain a lot.

Calling out other news networks for their lack of journalistic integrity is not a "perception" of reality. It's real. Just because he does it with a laugh or a joke doesn't make it any less disgusting that the media is corrupt. And the fact that he does it to both the left and the right makes it even MORE relevant. Sorry you can't see that.

I consider FOX to be more comparable to "entertaiment" than to news, which explains a lot about conservatives.

My bias gets in the way of what?
FOX's bias?
The problem is that in your case, nothing gets in the way of FOX's bias.
You just let it all soak in.

And BTW- I get my political comedy from a political comedy show.
I get my news from various news sources, not just one view.

Since your idea of news IS so comical, that's why you can't tell the diference.

AT this point in time, after everything that has been revealed about News Corp and FOX News, no sane rational human being could ever consider them to be "fair and balanced".

The fact that you still do explains a lot.

I can't wait! It's bound to happen before the end of the day!

Don't you know it! Plus they will superimpose an enormous crowd scene behind that will ostensibly represent their viewers. HAHAHAHAHAH!

i'm not gonna be your monkey. beautiful. thanks for posting.

That was really nice.
We all need to be reminded to be respectful and maintain an open mind.
It did make me laugh when you refered to your youthful liberal tendencies as if it were like having gay sex. Conservatives like to think that being republican is somehow more mature.
But I can't think of bigger babies than Glen Bleck or Rust Limpballs.....
;~D

I used watch glenn beck even back when i was liberal. He talked about things that ive never heard any other news person talk about. Thats why i always kept my mind open to what he said, even while i was supporting Obama

But now, i think im beginning to turn my back on glenn beck. If you look up his show from june 2, 2011 you will see that he starts crying 7 minutes into the show. I just had to turn it off at that point.

So yes you big baby description definitely applies to glenn beck. But im not sure about rush limbaugh. he has yet to shed a tear.

Big babies don't cry so they say.
Too bad for those abused children. Tears can be very healing when they are not totally fake.
Beck is merely regurgitating conspiracy theories that have been around since the John Birch Society. You haven't heard news people talk about it because such paranoid thinking was rejected by mainstream America when Joe McCarthy lost credibility back in the 1950s.
The first president I voted for was Ronald Reagan in 1979. It only took a few years to realize what a horrible mistake I had made and I have become more progressively liberal the older I get.
I have come to see conservatives as short-sighted and stingy, and liberals as far-sighted and generous.
Conservatives like to believe they are the party of God but Jesus was clearly a liberal if not a downright communist according to the gospels!
The people in most need of reading the Gospels are republicans. That is what turned me into a democrat.

Where are the rest...like you?

But the FACTS can not be denighed....you ARE "morons, koch suckers and racist kkk"!
The conservatives, republicans and/or teabaggers ARE responsible for TRILLIONS of dollars wasted,THOUSANDS of deaths from wars we were LIED into. MILLIONS of jobs lost, TORTURE, making it LEGAL to LIE on television, DESTROYING the gulf of mexico, leting a city DROWN, actually VOTING to kill medicare and social security! My God...
I have NO sympathy for your way of thinking and I will NEVER have an OPEN MIND to republican ideas! You're position begs believe!

Rush does not cry because he is a heartless corporate shill.

There are all kinds of people on this planet, and some people really are morons, some really are racists, some really are asses.

There is a diference between name-calling, and calling it as you see it.

You are right that not everyone one disagrees with are necessarily those things- for example, Newt Gingrich is an ass, but he's not stupid. Sarah Palin is stupid- she actually is. She is simply and objectively a person of low intelligence.

You have made a great deal of improvement in your time here- when you first started posting, you were just a troll. You are now a contributing person with conservative leanings.

I'm sure you realize there are people, both on this website and on the public stage, who are batshit crazy. I see nothing wrong with pointing that out!

Yes, we should have open minds to new ideas- that means listening to the ideas, evaluating them rationally and objectively, and discarding them when they do not pass muster.

An open mind does not simply consider all ideas to be equally valid.

We're all in the same boat. Whether or not the people leading the boat are going the direction you want them to go we still need to separate ourselves from those who would bash liberals for believing what they believe.

Both parties have flaws and shortcomings. Do not put yourself or your beliefs on a pedestal above others. We need to come together as a people to overcome our nation's crisis, and we should be converting tea party members back to the American people.

There's only right and wrong in life. MSNBC is right and foxnews is wrong for America.

Yes, only right and wrong. There is corporate media and non-corporate media. There is mega-company owned FOX and MSNBC/NBC/CNBC as well as PBS which is majorly corporately underwritten.

There is non corporate media like democracy now.

well, cnn is the answer for you then. But let me tell you that nobody tells me what to think. I have my own convictions and beliefs. It happens that they think LIKE ME msnbc. Republicans are going far to the right and I believe that msnbc is going to the center. Public option for health care? I beleive in that. Foxnews are for ending medicare as we know it. I disagree with that. I am not mistaken in what I want and it happens that msnbc don't tell me what to think, they think like me. I can make my own conclusions in what happens here and the world and it happens that msnbc is pro-choice and I'm not. In abortion Iam a republican . see, i'm NOT mistaken in my beliefs.

MSNBC is not as bad as Fox. MSNBC actually has people that still take some pride in reporting the truth. Fox not so much.

today's "center' is too far to the right, agree with that. that's why we need to go back to the real center and msnbc is a lot closer to that than fox news. That's why I prefer msnbc. CNN tries to be neutral but omissions about the palestinian problem for example, are disgusting. The reason they hate us in the middle east is because our blind support for Israel. They have enough videos and testimonies to show that Israel is treating the palestinians as they were treated by the nazis. Our support should not be like bush support but like obama support. Israel wants their entire land and we should stop that . Keep what you have but palestinians deserve a state too. Too many jewish lobbyists to buy our politicians. We must be fair. I hate when our tv shows Israel as the victim but they are the oppresors.

Hi Dave. I like to watch certain shows on MSNBC. Particularily Ratchel Maddow, mainly because she covers story that are not covered by other MSM. However, your point is well taken. I still prefer watching Canadian News and BBC News. They ususally report the news in an unbaised way and it's not stressful because there is no vitriol. I occasionally watch Jon Stewart, but because he is on Comedy Central he is on either too early or too late for me so I'm not a regular viewer. However, it really says a lot about what is happening in the States when a Comedy Show is more honest presenting the news then so-called News Agencies.

That's exactly what we need in our news, real fair and balanced people and networks. Too much biased towards Israel. They are our friends but sometimes you have to tell your friends for their own good when they are wrong.Especially , when we are in the MIDDLE. And I hate to say this but our blind support for Israel is fueling al qaeda and extremists groups. Obama is right when he told them to go back to 1967 borders.

Hello David.

ITA. I believe TYT has promise, and should certainly replace O'Donnell.

There's also The Real News Network.

Yes, I saw the picture and vote it up, it is so true. I myself miss Keith. His was the only show that was protesting the Iraq war after Bush invaded the country and spoke out against torture. Yes he leans left, but at least brings fact to the table. He is a counterbalance to O'Reilly. Since I find O'Reilly to be a sanctimonious SOB, Keith bashing of him doesn't bother me.

There is no comparison between MSNBC and FOX. They are not two sides of the same coin.

MSNBC has a liberal political voice, and does not hide that fact. They have actual reporters, actual researchers, and present actual news.

FOX News is a conservative propaganda machine that blatantly manipulates the public with outright lies to further their agenda, while claiming to be "fair and balanced".

Sure they do, like Pat Buchanan?

You say:
"And MSNBC spreads propaganda to convince you the Democrats are working for your interests."

False.
MSNBC promotes a liberal ideology, but will rip into Democratic politicians.
FOX, however, is simply a branch of the Republican party.

Again- I'm not saying MSNBC has no bias, but there is a HUGE diference between bias and propaganda.

You say:
"All corporate owned media is promoting the same agenda..."

No, most of them simply want ratings.
If it bleeds it leads, dirty laundry, sex scandals, etc.
That doesn't mean they are all propaganda machines like FOX.

You say:
"Real journailists work in the print media, cable news is just a bunch of talking heads."

My God, you are old.
Real journalists use an Underwood typewriter, not some fancy word processor!

Evidence.
http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/IraqMedia_Oct03/IraqMedia_Oct03_pr.pdf