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US Colleges are creating a slave class for the banks

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Only one in five of America's college-leavers now land a job, leaving the rest to struggle with deep debt and desperation, according to fresh statistics. The level of unemployment crept back up to over nine per cent in May.

­Recruitment is at its lowest for eight months, which is bad news for those completing college this summer.

America is home to the world’s most expensive and prestigious universities. Yet, paying for them has created a nation where the majority signs on to lifetime payments of loans.

“I’ll probably have $60,000 in student debt,” says Anna Kiefer, a student of New York University.

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48 comments // US Colleges are creating a slave class for the banks

  • Buckeye_Bill
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • How did we get to where we are now? A new form of indentured servitude to financial institutio­ns has risen from the bowels of greedy slave masters to ensnare our youth before they even see the light of day from the trenches they have dug with the shovels sold to them on the belief that the yoke of indebtedne­ss is a good thing to have shackled to their shoulders. Just wait until those owing are put up for sale to the highest bidder as their new owners take on the mountain of debt for services the subservien­t will have to perform to repay the slave owner for their investment for your soul. I can only imagine what words will be used to describe what you will have to sign as a contract that will indemnify you to them for the rest of your natural working life.

      Option two. We'll see the best educated tenants to ever reside in a debtors' prison.

      Just kidding?

    • 12 months ago
  • RaceBannon
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      RaceBannon  
    • the university is a sad place of today, adverse to its original purpose. A university is not a job training facility it was never meant to train a workforce, but rather a center of higher education. There used to be a time everyone had to read Socrates to guy Kant just to get time to hang with the professor, but now kids are just trying to fast track into what some people have deemed "the real world" ugghh I hate abstract language...

      Thanks to the interest of business backed neo-liberal structuring the university has become a funnel of potentially great minds into nonacademic abominations such as "systems analysis" (i swear when i meet them and econ undergrads I have the urge to punch them :P). Further it produces a grad who is unable to raise critical questions of society and only do the bidding of authority figures. Now more in this austerity economy uni's are happy to produce a generation of obedient good white collar workers I figure..

    • 12 months ago
  • SIBob
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      SIBob  
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    • A part of creating a nation of willful slaves is to put millions of people into debt before they even get started. I don’t consider this to be “financial aid”. If we ever find ourselves wondering why so many take so much abuse on the job, while remaining apathetic to any solutions, debt is the reason. Also, the pro-business training that is dished out in the business administration and marketing courses is a form of brainwashing. Those two degrees rank highest in getting corporate employment, when it is available. But, all this is part of the consumerist training also. After all that is what we are ultimately set up to be; administrators, “service” workers and spenders. The manufacturing is done by people in other countries, far from our mall cocoons and global management headquarters. The delusions that begin with the “American Dream” in college are many times shattered when the loan bills start arriving and many graduates find themselves working as assistant managers in a McJob or unemployed.
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    • 12 months ago
  • Angeliron
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      Angeliron  
    • The level of unemployment in the U.S. is 22%! This is a factual number I made up while I was writing this, It is way closer to Truth than 9%. Default on your student loans, and break those leaches!

    • 12 months ago
  • Tim_Mitchell
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      Tim_Mitchell  
    • If my daughter has problems paying her student loans after she graduates I'm going to suggest bankruptcy to clear the debt. If she cant pay the debt in a reasonable time and if doing so impedes her ability to survive, its justified and warranted.

    • 12 months ago
  • Alanb4130
  • Tim_Mitchell
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      Tim_Mitchell  
    • Alanb4130:

      It could be just the message that needs to be sent to lawmakers in charge of watching for these kinds of scams. Its worse than recruiting for the military; a few in my division had a choice between jail time or military service when they were arrested on drug charges, but that's another story.

    • 12 months ago
  • Kelly_Balthrop
  • Tim_Mitchell
  • Tim_Mitchell
  • Warren_Merrill
  • Angeliron
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • Tim_Mitchell:

      I don't know how to say this other than bluntly, but your daughter really has no option but to pay on that debt for as long as she is breathing air. There is a way but it's nearly impossible filing bankruptcy to clear the debt. This problem has gotten out of hand for many and it will only get harder to do so in the future. Imagine a loan holder making an agreement with an employer to hire you so you can work to make payments until the loan is satisfied. One becomes an indentured servant for life. And they may find a way to recoup the loan even after one's demise! Ever watch the movie, "Repo Men"?

      Remy: "My job is simple. Can't pay for your car, the bank takes it back. Can't pay for your house, the bank takes it back. Can't pay for your liver, well, that's where I come in."

      I would add, "Can't pay for your education, the holder of that student loan comes after anything they can sell for repayment. So long as they get there while one is still warm."

      I'm joking, but I wouldn't put it past them. The greedy bloodsuckers!

    • 12 months ago
  • Tim_Mitchell
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      Tim_Mitchell  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      Clearing the debt in a reasonable method of payments utilizing chapter 13 bankruptcy procedures is a far cry from denying the student and her future family from paying for food, clothes, transportation and medical care as well as a decent roof over their heads. At least the payments wont break anyone's back, even if they pay $10.00 a month until the money really starts rolling in to knock down the principle. I'm no advocate of a free ride, just a fair one.

    • 12 months ago
  • Warren_Merrill
  • Alanb4130
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      Alanb4130  
    • The United States is falling farther and farther behind some other countries because education is getting harder and harder for many to afford. We need to make education a top 5 priority no matter what.

    • 12 months ago
  • rodstradamus
  • August_K
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • rodstradamus:

      I watched with amazement as this concept was being created in the 1980s. Private colleges, and I'm using the term obtusely, were and are raking in federally backed student loans while delivering the worst "product" for the money. Public institutions of higher learning realized this and jumped on that 'bandwagon' as quickly as they could, too, when they saw the wealth that was being distributed by a complicit government. The problem society is facing with rising costs for Medicare and Social Security pale in comparison to what's being siphoned off to pay for these bogus student loans! I believe this is the greatest scam to ever be pulled on Mankind. And if your video doesn't open eyes to the realities we face today, nothing will.

    • 12 months ago
  • MAssappeal
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      MAssappeal  
    • As a college student, I'll definitely attest to this. I was talking with my dad the other day about the profusion of new degree tracks since his time in college and we had to laugh about how many of them had little to no basis in hard knowledge or were clearly vocational in nature (not to hate on vocational education, but in a university I'd like to think it's about more than that). Not only is this educational system limiting us through absurd cost, but also by its very scope.

    • 12 months ago
  • alexandrek
  • Tim_Mitchell
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      Tim_Mitchell  
    • alexandrek:

      Its funny you mention that. My late Father-in-law was awarded a four year education for serving in WWII. He told me every one who served was given the same opportunity. The U.S got very greedy.

    • 12 months ago
  • Warren_Merrill
  • Tim_Mitchell
  • Warren_Merrill
  • Warren_Merrill
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      Warren_Merrill  
    • The cost of my daughter's education after scholarships was 28K for four years. She could have afforded it had I not paid for it. It's important to emphasize top grades in high school. My son now has the same situation, 7K a year after scholarships. Out of college my daughter got a job in the top 25% of income. She finished near the top of her college class.

      No one ever told her she would be handed anything. She worked hard and earned it. Be a "doer" not a whiner and complainer.

      Even if some doesn't have great grades they can attend a local JuCo for two years at very little expense. Then attend a local state university. It's worth the investment in the future. Anything else is just making excuses.

    • 12 months ago
  • Saladin
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      Saladin  
    • Warren_Merrill:

      It's not a matter of excuses.

      In my state, it's supposed to be FREE to go to a state-run college, it's in our god-damn constitution.

      This is the most important tool we have for maintaining a competitive edge in the world, so why the hell are we destroying by making it a right exclusive to the upper-middle class unless you want to be saddled with tons of debt?

    • 12 months ago
  • squarethecircle
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      squarethecircle  
    • Warren_Merrill:

      Wow that's about what it cost to go to, in state, Va Tech in 1988. I got good grades too. My sister in law left Colgate with a $60,000 debt, after scholarships, before going to law school. I am glad in your experience everything was A OK.for your kids.

    • 12 months ago
  • haberzet
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      haberzet  
    • Warren_Merrill:

      I agree with Saladin. In my home country University eduction is also FREE. That allows us to have an educational system which doesn't have to follow market rules and can concentrate on education. Teachers don't have to keep class sizes constant to bring in enough money. They can make sure that only the best graduate. Also students are able to chose professions which are not necessarily in the 25% income braket. You know professions like natural science, humanities etc.

    • 12 months ago
  • August_K
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      August_K  
    • Warren_Merrill:

      Watch the video above. It's good.

      Many employers said a college degree doesn't have any relevance when it comes to jobs skills.
      They'd rather hire bright people to learn on the job or start at apprenticeship level.
      In a few years they have the experience and the income MINUS the massive college debt/expense.

      Higher education has become a big money scam like so much else in our country.

    • 12 months ago
  • Tim_Mitchell
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      Tim_Mitchell  
    • Warren_Merrill:

      Your grossly missing any point being made here Captain obstinate. No one is crying in there milk here, they are angry that a scam between the Universities and Banks is paying off for everyone but the student left to compete in a FAILING ECONOMY.

    • 12 months ago
  • Warren_Merrill
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      Warren_Merrill  
    • August_K:

      "Many employers said a college degree doesn't have any relevance when it comes to jobs skills."

      I don't disagree with this. My daughter's undergrad major and minor along with some awards got her a good job. My son chose a major that will provide him a job out of college. Many degrees are Latin for "I have to go to grad school now so I can get a real job."

    • 12 months ago
  • haberzet
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      haberzet  
    • I'm just happy that I got my education not in the US. I am able to follow my passion and work as an astronomer without having to worry about a huge amount of debt. If I would have grown up in the US, my parents would have never been able to send me to college, let alone that I could have chosen to study physics.

      The high fees for colleges and Universities also hinder the US in scientific development. Already many students choose better payed professions, to have at least a shot on paying of their debt in a reasonable time. That reduces the number of talented young US scientists. If you look into US research facilities, especially in physics and bio-medical science, you see more and more foreigner dominating the picture. For me it is an opportunity, but I also think it is not healthy for US research and development.

    • 12 months ago
  • Alanb4130
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      Alanb4130  
    • Regular colleges are going to start seeing drops in enrollment. There are already some stories out there talking about should kids go to a traditional college. Trade schools might gain a huge boost in popularity in the coming years.

    • 12 months ago
  • August_K
  • Alanb4130
  • squarethecircle
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      squarethecircle  
    • What are you getting for that expense? That much more education? Quality has gone down not up. College should be available to those that want to go, but we used to learn on the job in many of our industries and apprenticeship worked well for a long time. The idea that everyone must go to college to be able to get a job is a new one and already outdated. There can't be a corporate job waiting to pay big wages to every student that graduates.The schools that are worth some of their salt all have intern programs. They know there is no better way to learn than to do something. Really we get to a point in life and realize, especially know with the internet, that if you want to learn you can find the information you seek from numerous sources and often times get a better picture due to more perspectives. If you don't come to that conclusion, you probably shouldn't waste the money on college either.

      I also feel that we should be able to do what we want with our life as long as we are decent, that resources should be common and shared, and borders need to vanish with their economies and governments.

    • 12 months ago
  • JanforGore
  • pukemnukem
  • Warren_Merrill
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      Warren_Merrill  
    • pukemnukem:

      Only football and basketball players receive large scholarships in the large universities. College football and baseball are big business. They are revenue generators. Other athletes are fortunate to get 25-50%. Some college athletes get nothing. College sports regardless of how much is given in scholarship is a thirty to forty hour a week job.

    • 12 months ago
  • pukemnukem
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      pukemnukem  
    • Warren_Merrill:

      My point is, even at small schools, students are pressured to go into bullshit degree paths, to free up time for their sports. I live with a fellow engineering student who plays baseball for a div III school. He is pretty much the only person on his team getting a marketable degree...and pretty much his coaches give him shit for missing practices all the time.

    • 12 months ago
  • August_K
  • Warren_Merrill
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      Warren_Merrill  
    • pukemnukem:

      I played a D1 sport. I was pushed for two years to change my major from econ. I refused. My daughter played a D1 sport. She was pushed to change and refused. My son will be the same. It's about coming out of college with value. Engineering is a difficult degree for athletes. There are labs which are often held in the afternoon. Most athletes are supposed to go to class in the morning and have their afternoon's clear. My daughter had to take her lab classes in summer school. At the D3 level it depends on the school whether the player gets grief. I know kids at D3 colleges who have to miss games due to classes.

    • 12 months ago
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