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Rapper Lupe Fiasco calls Obama a 'terrorist'

source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/123467904.html

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Lupe Fiasco called out President Barack Obama this week, calling his fellow Chicagoan "the biggest terrorist."

The comments came in an interview with CBS News Tuesday while discussing the political content of his music.

"My fight against terrorism, to me, the biggest terrorist is Obama in the United States of America. I'm trying to fight the terrorism that's actually causing the other forms of terrorism. You know, the root cause of terrorism is the stuff the U.S. government allows to happen. The foreign policies that we have in place in different countries that inspire people to become terrorists."

And it's not the only shots the president has taken this week. Republican presidential candidate Tim Pawlenty stopped through Chicago Tuesday and said Obama "needs to go to rehab" in reference to the economic recovery.
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239 comments // Rapper Lupe Fiasco calls Obama a 'terrorist'

  • emarston
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      emarston  

    • The idea of terrorism is all relative, in the way he is saying that the US are and by default Obama is he is not 100% wrong. I dob't agree with most of our foreign policies but wouldn't call us a terror state, but I do think that the invasion of Iraq (a sovereign nation) was an act of terror. So by his reasoning by continuing the war Obama is in the wrong.

    • 12 months ago
  • observer2121
  • stupidamericanz
  • unimatrix0
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      unimatrix0  

    • Calling Obama a "terrorist" is taking hyperbole to absurdity.

      I wonder if Mr. Fiasco would be pleased to know that he only feeds the racist right wing nuts and others suffering from Obama derangement syndrome? Such imbeciles will use anything to discredit Obama and the Democratic cause.

    • 12 months ago
  • corderodedios
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      corderodedios  
    • unimatrix0:

      The message isn't that Obama is a terrorist. The message is that some black folks think he is. Along with a heck of a lot of other folks who voted for him in 2008.

      Obama's no different than GWB in supporting the American Corporate war for control of oil-critical regions. Of course, that's the secondary message here: for ten years the USA, at the direction of Big Oil etc, has been indiscriminately raining death and destruction from the skies on the innocent civilians of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and now Yemen. Over one million excess deaths have resulted from Corporate America's lust for energy and wealth. And then there's the torture and extrajudicial killings. We call people who live in places like Afghanistan and who are fighting to liberate their country from the invader "insurgents," even though most of them live either there or nearby, and we are the ones "surging" in, i.e. we are the insurgents. We are also the terrorists. It's doublespeak. Fantasy. Propaganda. Institutionalized lies, Big Lies. Democrat lies. This is an awful situation.

      Another thing. So, this rapper - an otherwise insignificant twit as far as I can tell - is feeding right-wing nuts? So when we suck up the lies and protect the liars, how are we very different than the right-wing nuts we so abhor?

    • 12 months ago
  • PoliticalAmazon
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      PoliticalAmazon  
    • unimatrix0:

      PoliticalAmazon

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      PoliticalAmazon

      (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism)

      ter•ror•ism

         [ter-uh-riz-uh m] Show IPA –noun

      1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

      2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.

      3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

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      (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/terrorist)

      terrorist - n

      (Government, Politics & Diplomacy)

      a. a person who employs terror or terrorism, esp as a political weapon

      b. (as modifier) terrorist tactics

      terroristic adj

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      GWBush and Obama use terror as a political weapon to enable them to get what they cannot get by more honest (and human) means. They use/d our country's military as a crutch for their own foreign-policy failures. They both used/are using terrorism against other countries, but they use it against their own people, as well.

      Both GWBush and Obama have/continue to use the specter of 9/11 when they need to terrorize us into submission and acceptance of their latest destruction of our constitutional rights.

      Obama used terrorism to justify his terrorist attack on a sovereign country, Pakistan, where his agents of murder slaughtered not only OBL, but also several other men, and at least one woman and one child.

      GWBush used, of course, the more infantile color-coded delivery system for the terror he used on Americans. Obama is not quite as condescending to the American people (at least on his approach to terrorizing Americans), but his Guilliani-esque "noun, verb and 911" in ever sentence, when he wants to justify slaughtering someone in another country, or get our own soldiers/troops slaughtered in another country, is clearly his method of choice.

      However, BOTH have used/is using terror to effect their political agenda, both at home and abroad.

    • 12 months ago
  • jamjaminyourmouth
  • Radical_Centrist
  • damush
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      damush  

    • And the relevance of a "pop-corn" rapper in politics? Dude needs to stick with the fluff parade of party and bullshit. IN REAL HIP-HOP - we don't get signed for telling the truth, loudly and in the face of those who have our heads on a chopping block.

    • 12 months ago
  • stupidamericanz
  • wally60
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      wally60  

    • the united states is creating a terrorist state right here at home they have everyone here living in fear of the terrorists it enables them to create a police state which they will use to control the masses and i mean lock up anyone that doesnt go along with their plan.yes there are some bad people out there but we should stay at home and let the rest of the world sort it out..every time we kill a civilian in these countrys we create many more terrorists.if someone killed your brother you would do the same.violence creates violence

    • 12 months ago
  • Buddha2112
  • PressCore
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      PressCore  

    • http://mr.sh

      Nobama sits in the oval office as the civilian (figure)head of the military.
      He has responsibility for everything they do whether mr.sheep dip likes
      hearing it or not. It's an acknowledged fact the U.S. military trains the
      military/police used throughout Mexico/Columbia et al. The first thing these
      highly specialized paramilitary do is defect to the drug cartel contrabandistas
      because the pay is much better. American military trained former Mexican
      paramilitary then stage " hits " aka assasinations on Mexican police,
      prosecuting attorneys, to dissuadet hem from honestly doing their job.
      Last year American trained terrorists assasinated the Mexican Attorney
      General. Meanwhile the Mexican drug mob kidnaps & mass Murders
      Mexicans. They find shallow mass graves with headless bodies semi
      regularly there which is evidence of terrorism. Hitler Bush sent Secretary
      of Snake, Condoliza Rice to Mexico in 2008 to bribe the Mexican govt
      with $400 Million to keep their American sponsored drug war prohibition
      going when they discovered that theMexican people's sentiment is strong
      on national decrim for soft drugs. The stench of this corruption is rank.

      Sheep dip Nobama & Holder who's in Big Pharma's pocket, looking for
      tenure with them too support Prohibition & the FBI/DEA/Big Pharma's
      sponsored War on Drugs, which promotes terrorism. Yes in fact Nobama
      is a terrorist. The ignorant and hypocritical are even bigger fools to care
      about how Nobama has branded himself. What's in a name ? We could
      substitute other words for it, and give them the same meaning. So what ?
      It couldn't actualy be that sheeple are so afraid of the truth that they have
      to desperately keep up appearances to promote their facade, could it ???
      Fascism = Fascism, sheeple. However inconvenient the truth is to you, life
      feeds off death here in the wild & wolly West too. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

    • 12 months ago
  • freecrack
  • LittleRascals
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      LittleRascals  

    • Inspiration , yes blame terrorism on inspiration, not on the person like Bin Laden. inspire people to do good to fight poverty and be giving and peaceful. Peaceful protest is the only solution that works, violence begets more violence.

    • 12 months ago
  • PoliticalAmazon
  • LittleRascals
  • LittleRascals
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      LittleRascals  

    • Definition of TERROR
      1 a state of intense fear
      2 a : one that inspires fear : scourge
      b : a frightening aspect
      c : a cause of anxiety : worry
      d : an appalling person or thing; especially : brat
      3 reign of terror
      4 violent or destructive acts (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands

    • 12 months ago
  • stupidamericanz
  • tomoni
  • PoliticalAmazon
  • freecrack
  • Radical_Centrist
  • tomoni
  • Radical_Centrist
  • timing8
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      timing8  

    • Lupe Fiasco is one of the most intellectual musicians/artists of our time. He writes and talks about things people want to avoid. We as Americans don't see our actions as terrorism but in certain cases they are. Is Obama a terrorist? I will have to disagree with my favorite pacifist and musician.

    • 12 months ago
  • harleyblueswoman
  • SFirman
  • PoliticalAmazon
  • Radical_Centrist
  • charliesommers
  • dalistuff
  • PoliticalAmazon
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      PoliticalAmazon  
    • charliesommers:

      What did you call GWBush and Cheney? Since Obama is determined to be the Third Bush Administration, might be a good idea to rethink what it was like under Bush/Cheney, and whether you'd like the same thing--only from someone who is more inept, as is Obama.

    • 12 months ago
  • demsbeans527
  • PoliticalAmazon
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      PoliticalAmazon  
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    • charliesommers:

      We have to add "Why didn't you criticize Bush?" to the Obama Apologist Bingo card. Until then, "here's your sign."

      In the case of this YOUNG artist, who knows why he didn't write the song earlier? Why didn't Bob Dylan release "Blowing in the Wind" in 1959 instead of 1963? Perhaps, like many 2008 Obama voters, he was suckered in by Obama's bait-and-switch scam, promising one thing and delivering the opposite, or not delivering at all.

    • 12 months ago
  • TaGgInUrBlOcKuP
  • TaGgInUrBlOcKuP
  • PoliticalAmazon
  • TaGgInUrBlOcKuP
  • freecrack
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      freecrack  

    • ok well i just went through the whole thread and it looks like massanova isnt getting the feedback he was shooting for.so ill give it.

      lupe is wrong.he means well,and his heart is in the right place, but he equates gaza to any other ghetto whilst failing to recognize they are at war with the state.making detriot and gaza totaly seperate situations.and in reality the sandard of living in gaza on average is higher than detroit.wanna compare real estate prices?

      here ya go massa.this is what you wanted right?

    • 12 months ago
  • Leen61
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      Leen61  

    • I'm glad I watched the video of Rapper Lupe Fiasco. He clearly knows what's really going on in the political realm. He knows that politicians are not in it for the people anymore and he believes that the power of people should still dictate what their country does in their name and that is clearly missing right now.

    • 12 months ago
  • freecrack
  • Incredulous
  • stupidamericanz
  • s_peak
  • PigFarmington
  • Radical_Centrist
  • PoliticalAmazon
  • PigFarmington
  • demsbeans527
  • stupidamericanz
  • demsbeans527
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      demsbeans527  

    • I think we get into a dangerous space when we can't criticize the person we selected to be president of this country. I applaud this young man for attempting to get his generation to focus on what is happening in the world around them and how it affects them. For those suggesting he is simply a rapper and should be quiet, it should be noted that he was born of West African parentage and was raised in the Muslim religion. I think that qualifies him mores than say, myself, to be able to speak to issues that affect his heritage.

      I like President Obama. I voted for him and will defend him against what I perceive to be unfounded or unfair judgment. However, I have learned, especially since the Clinton presidency that left us with NAFTA and a deteriorating financial structure, that we should have been criticizing our leaders then and should do so as much now.

      No one can argue that President Obama doesn't seem to fold on some of his principles in the interest of finding common ground with a party that don't want anything to do with compromise. No one can argue that his health care reform was not modeled after a Republican's policy, as a starting point, rather than from a democrat stance then compromise. No one can argue that Wall Street reform was weakened because those that he chose to assist him in drafting them were/are Wall Street players, who stand to benefit most from the Republican utopia. Not to mention the host of other policies adopted from the previous administration listed by some below.

      I understand what President Obama is up against with the insaniTea/GOP party but I don't believe he is using the platform or the mandate he was given upon election to at least defend SOME of his democratic principles. Those principles should include a reluctance to use military might, unless under direct threat and a willingness to cease war activity while our country is in duress.

    • 12 months ago
  • 2warsoffbooks
  • SFirman
  • PoliticalAmazon
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      PoliticalAmazon  
    • 2warsoffbooks:

      Oh, my. Do you think he pays any attention to what the people want? Lt me put it this way....have you ever seen any evidence he has positively responded (on a policy level ) to anything you contacted him about?

      The address at whgov is a deep pit where they go to look for praising letters when Obama is feeling a little down for stuff like...oh, you know...getting so many American soldiers slaughtered on Obama's altar of Avarice and Greed...that kind of stuff.

    • 12 months ago
  • eden49
  • 2warsoffbooks
  • PoliticalAmazon
  • freecrack
  • eden49
  • TaGgInUrBlOcKuP
  • TaGgInUrBlOcKuP
  • eden49
  • 2warsoffbooks
  • Incredulous
  • freecrack
  • PoliticalAmazon
  • eden49
  • PoliticalAmazon
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      PoliticalAmazon  
    • eden49:

      The irony is when Bob Dylan first appeared on the scene, there were people who said "I just don't dig folk, I'm more an advocate for Elvis Presley."

      I'm not into rap or hip-hop, but the Lupe's lyrics are solid.

    • 12 months ago
  • Johnny_Los_Angeles
  • 2warsoffbooks
  • cwebbpt4
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      cwebbpt4  

    • Its times like these that I would like to remind people of the checks in balances in place in American politics. Presidents receive all the credit, as well as all the blame, but truly have little power when it comes to creating or retracting legislation. That is all.

    • 12 months ago
  • PoliticalAmazon
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      PoliticalAmazon  
    • cwebbpt4:

      What "checks and balances" would that be? When GWBush stole the 2000 election, what "checked" and "balanced" that?

      In theory, the tripartite form of government the U.S. is alleged to have would provide checks and balances.

      However, clearly we now have an oligarchy, where financial interests control all three branches.

    • 12 months ago
  • samthesixth
  • maasanova
  • PoliticalAmazon
  • tlbuffin
  • PoliticalAmazon
  • Arizona_Huey
    • -1
      Arizona_Huey  

    • I'm sorry - why do I even remotely give a sh!t what a rapper thinks about anything outside of music? Hell, I doubt I even think I care about his music.

    • 12 months ago
  • Pfailblog
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      Pfailblog  
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    • Arizona_Huey:

      But he makes a great point, to a demographic that needs to hear that message. You may not care, but the people that need to hear that might. Obama is killing people in Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iraq right now. People are being killed on his orders. Bradley Manning is still in prison. Gitmo is still open with 171 inmates being held with no trial. The rich got their tax cuts. The banks are getting everything they want, were drilling for more oil in the Gulf. Instead of universal health care, now we will all be forced to buy a product from an insurance company. Nothing has changed for the good, how do people not see this?

    • 12 months ago
  • tlbuffin
  • Arizona_Huey
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      Arizona_Huey  
    • Pfailblog:

      I got all that but perhaps you should at least point the blame where it actual needs to go. Blaming Obama for all of that is lame as hell and amazingly lazy and unrealistic at best. Perhaps you should look at the teapublicans for thwarting every single attempt to stall, kill, or water down every single piece of legislation that came from the Democrats. I don't like some of the things Obama is doing either but I'm not going to condemn him for things that are way out of his control

    • 12 months ago
  • PoliticalAmazon
  • PoliticalAmazon
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      PoliticalAmazon  
    • Pfailblog:

      They are too busy playing Apologist Bingo.

      Seriously, I think they don't see it because they are afraid to confront the truth. It's like when GWBush stole the 2000 election....there were people who just could not confront the fact that our votes really mean nothing to our elected politicians because, outside of the Congressional Black Congress and Barbara Boxer, none of them stood up for our votes.

      So all that bullshit about "every vote counts" is just smoke they were blowing up our asses.

      It's very difficult for some people to acknowledge the fact that an American presidential candidate an consciously campaign on values completely different from that which he wishes to act on once president, and campaign on a slate of promises that he has no intention of fulfilling.

      To embrace that means that campaigns are useless and a giant waste of money, and that everything we think we know about the relationship between an elected official and the voters who elected him/her to office is fake.

      So they make excuses for Obama, like he's a 6-week-old puppy who still shits on the rug, and is powerless and, apparently, a feeb too, unable to use the power of the presidency for anything but fulfilling the GOP agenda.

      Right now in Japan, Fukushima has at least one reactor where the fuel rods have melted THROUGH the reactor--the China Syndrome. Tepco cannot account for all of the highly radioactive water they have produced in their attempts to keep the reactors from exploding, and readily admit the ocean water in the area is radioactive. They have not mentioned the groundwater yet, but that would be very, very bad. Such a highly earthquake-active set of islands may have aquifers that connect. Without potable water, Japan would be inhabitable...certainly not at the density of population there is now.

      The U.S. should be leading the world in sending resources over to Japan to help with this nightmare. If we are going to spend one dime on anything else but unemployment and our economy, saving our ocean from being destroyed by Japan's avarice and greed in allowing Tepco to get away without adequate safety measures.

      But, no. Obama wants to play Big Man with the military, using $$$$billions to reach HIS OWN foreign policy goals he is to stupid, inept, and lazy to get the honorable way.

      And still, the gullible Obamaaa-aaa-aaa bleaters march in lock-step unison behind him, sanctify everything he does with their praise and support.

    • 12 months ago
  • s_peak
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      s_peak  
    • tlbuffin:

      He promised to close Gitmo and he didn't do it. He's extending the patriot act. These aren't just some made up talking points... they're facts... isn't it a bit "radical" and "extremist" to send troops to Libya? What is our moral consensus for allowing that to happen? ... not to mention that our environment is rapidly in decline, and various ecosystems are beginning to collapse. Obama was quick with the pen to sign the "drill baby drill!" bill, too.

      It's clear to me that the change we need is nothing he can provide. Our planet is in collapse, so all of this tiptoeing and babystepping will only mean more suffering in the long term. We need a new system, and we need it now.

      Obama is clearly extending the Bush era and protecting the corporations who have failed to look after the people, as they always have. Don't get me wrong, I voted for Obama. I get it. i want change, too... but it should be clear to anyone at this point that Obama can't bring that change. No president can... because they are basically bound to protect the corporations that built and control this country. There is no denying this. You know, as well as I do, that the elites are protected by this system and that's how it's always been. Obama is just a pawn. A front man. It was a painful day when I realized this.

      I'm not trying to start anything here... so please tell me... what has he accomplished?

    • 12 months ago
  • Radical_Centrist
  • corderodedios
  • TaGgInUrBlOcKuP
  • tlbuffin
  • tlbuffin
  • corderodedios
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      corderodedios  
    • tlbuffin:

      Not surprising.

      You are correct, the "complete destruction of our entire social fabric, the destruction of Social Security, Medicare,Medicaid, Pell grants, the complete neutering of the EPA, the ransacking of our national parks by the oil companies, the abolition of abortion,civil,gay and women's and voting rights..." is right in front of us, as a result of the actions of the large Democratic majorities in the House and Senate in the 2008 term, plus Obama. You feel ok with how the 2010 elections turned out? Hello, Dr. Pangloss? Is it time to whine about "filibuster?"

      Undo everything that's been "accomplished" for 70 years? That includes the past 40+ years since Nixon was elected, right? And Reagan? Accomplished? Hey, we're headed in the wrong direction, Republicans and Democrats alike. We've been driving towards the cliff since Coolidge's first term, in fact.

      If I want to read an apologia about a nice guy who did a lot of good things, but who just happened to be warming the seat in the Oval Office during a war - VietNam - I'll re-read Lyndon Johnson's The Vantage Point.

    • 12 months ago
  • SFirman
  • SFirman
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      SFirman  
    • tlbuffin:

      Thank you tl. A great comment and very true. I wish people would remember Bush and his Tarp money bailed out the big banks. Obama bailed out the car industry and the loan is paid back.

    • 12 months ago
  • Arizona_Huey
  • Arizona_Huey
    • +1
      Arizona_Huey  
    • PoliticalAmazon:

      Amazon - I am a realist. I realize that most of the bills that were actually passed were not in the shape or form that most of us would like them to be. Healthcare reform sucked!!! BUT - I also am aware that to get it passed, there needed to be some serious compromises. I hate it, but there are just amazingly stupid and illogical processes that are in our political system that must be addressed and/or overcome. I hate the two party system because it forces the contradiction we face today - it forces party members to either side with their affiliation or have a set of short and curlies and do what is best for this country. Sadly, most politicians vote on party lines opposed to what is right for the country. Like it or not - Obama has had to compromise to get things passed. You can take the ignorant view and believe he could have gotten it through or realize there are an amazing amount of political bullshit he has to wade through.

    • 12 months ago
  • LittleRascals
  • Pfailblog
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      Pfailblog  
    • tlbuffin:

      What has he done to earn anyone's vote? He could free Bradley Manning if he wanted to, it is his choice. We would be in the same place if McCain won in 08. The country is owned and people are asleep, But a lot more are starting to wake up faster and faster. I hope you join us soon. :)

    • 12 months ago
  • Pfailblog
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      Pfailblog  
    • Arizona_Huey:

      Your still playing within the rules and mind prison of politics. Once you let go of the illusion and distraction of the left and the right, talk to me. Till then we are on two different planets.

    • 12 months ago
  • tlbuffin
  • Radical_Centrist
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