No doubt ThirdSection... I am over the search for BiParitanship and Koombaya!!!

No Worries fernweher, there was much talk about the headline... Many were confused... =)

No, personal responsibility is a myth.
In the real world, everyone is interdependant with everyone else.

In the real world, Capitalism is dependent on money constantly flowing. If money is taken out of circulation by being hoarded in the accounts of the wealthy, the economy collapses.

In the real world, if health care IS provided to everyone, and quality education IS provided to everyone, then the rich people with their corporations have more quality employees to hire, who are healthier and work longer, thus making the rich people richer.

We also get more rich and middle class people.

But instead, we have short-sighted conservatives, letting the rich cling to their precious gold like Golem in the Lord of the Rings, and in so doing flush this entire country down the crapper.

Conservatives don't know that you have to spend money to make money.

People don't want to die! Whats to understand?

Personal responsibility? What's that? We live in America.

The rich and middle class pay for healthcare. Poor people cannot afford healthcare because healthcare is simply too expensive. Most of our healthcare cost is occurs at the end of our life cycle and the bill is far too high for even the middle class. Civilized countries subsidize healthcare for all. It is the foundation for a strong country. I am always open to real world examples where this is not the case.

Thank you UtopianSky. Well said.

I want links to back up what you are saying... Please don't take my reply personally, I am just curious... =)

What we wanted was a single payer health care system, what we got is one based on insurance companies because of compromises made with the Republicans.

And yes, a lot of people don't want a single payer system, but that is because they don't know what it is, they don't understand it, and they were brainwashed by the conservative media to think it's a bad thing.

As everyone has said over and over- the Republicans are skilled at getting people to vote against their own best interests; thus a popularity poll will not tell you much.

Hold you're breath, cause when we get down to brass tacks, I'd be willing to bet any amount of money that Obama is going to cave ( I'm not sure that is the right word since I think this was the plan the whole time) to the repuglicans and they are going to seriously fuck up the economy with deep cuts to social programs and cosmetic cuts to defense, but I guess we'll see.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cnn-quinnipiac-gallup-and-rasmussen-agree-am...

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/06/09/healthcare.pdf

The first is from earlier this year showing a majority of Americans supporting repeal of Obamacare (close to half). This is consistent with my previous post. The second is a CNN poll from earlier this month and shows the trend is actually growing (more want repeal than a few months ago).

I know this isn't your fault, but I also just wanted to comment on the "reviews" of the comments made. I do not understand why people are angry at what I said and clicking the dislike button. I made no commentary on healthcare itself, simply that this article is misleading. There was and is no majority of Americans calling for universal healthcare. The results of the FOUR polls in the link I posted above prove that.

You had every right to ask your question, although you could have also very easily googled it. But I took no offense and have no problem backing up what I said. What I don't get is the -4 review of my first comment and the +4 on your question which said nothing on its own. Again, this isn't directed towards you, but really people? You hate people questioning what you believe that much? Enough to ignore actual stats?

By the way, I lived and worked in the UK for over a year while my husband was in grad school there. So I do understand how nationalised health care works (at least their system). Although, just to reiterate, I am not attempting to start a debate over healthcare.

Thank you for saying it the way it is. Absolutely the truth.

Holy Makerel, I did not know you replied... You have posted great links... I am sorry folks downed your original comment, I will up it one for you... Thanks for spending the time to post these links... Below Ziggy and I were also having comments about the headline... =)

Thanks. Sorry if it seemed my frustration was directed towards you, it was not. I get a little tired of people being so entrenched in their own ideals that they become blind to anything that poses a possible threat to that belief system. This is not uniquely Democratic, I see it plenty on the Republican side as well. As a libertarian, I don't really identify with either side, so I guess I am everybody's enemy :)

So am I cos I support neither party... Hey I will send you a PM??? No Worries, I applaud you for getting back to me... Very Coool... =)

Yayyy, Jon Stewart... =)

Yayyy!!! SPAM... =)

Holy Makerel, now I am confused... Thanks for the link Misti... =)

Thanks for the update, Misti! This company is being shamed into doing the right thing. Good!

Misti... I am more bothered that this is nothing new... =(

That's right, Misti. The media should do stories like this more often so the American people really know what's going on. This company deserves the bad PR for being so heartless.

Now if we could only shame members of Congress . . .

They don't have the shame gene, PIANORAMA.

I don't think we are the richest country any longer... =(

I meant that faceitiously, KB.

Ok Leen, we were saying the same thing??? Is this the JINX I have been waiting for??? LOL!!! =)

But we are. There are many ways to measure by GDP is the most widely used.
We are just being robbed blind by the rich.

In things we own like weapons and private ownership we go much further than double the worth of China.

Source below

http://www.aneki.com/countries2.php?t=Richest_Countries_in_the_World&table=f...*&unit=*&order=desc&orderby=fb126.value&dependency=independent&number=5&cntdn=n&r=-77-79-80-81-82-83-84-85-86-87-88-89-90-91-92-93-94&c=&measures=Country--GDP&units=*--$&decimals=*--*&file=richest

1.
United States
$14,580,000,000,000
2.
China
$7,800,000,000,000
3.
Japan
$4,487,000,000,000
4.
India
$3,319,000,000,000
5.
Germany
$2,863,000,000,000

Rich folks can save the country, and not by paying their fair share of Taxes, but by being Breakfast for all the folks they have robbed/screwed/abused... Yummy, StinkyButt Stew... I think I will bake a Cake... =)

check out the numbers of billionaires in the U.S. that pay little or no taxes compared to the European nations ...

Thanks friend, I saw that...

Did I confuse you??? Sorry if I did... I didn't write the article or headline... =)

Didn't confuse me in the least. No apology necessary. Just could not get past the first sentence.

Voted up??? I think the point that was being made was this gentleman's, loss of employment for needing to spend more time with a dying loved one... In all honesty, I do not see the difference between this and Paternity Leave... I think the company should have done more to work with these folks, rather than to make the man no longer their Problem... So Yes, I can agree, The Company owner is a Schmuck, that can do as has been done with No Legal recourse, but is it Right??? Great to see you Ziggy... =)

The article is from Dem underground.
I think people are misunderstanding the whole thing. I went and read the article there. I think it's sarcasm, and meant to blame it on Obama, or the person is being straight forward but has a very awkward way of expressing their thoughts.
I guess it's one people will interpret either way. beats me.

They used another reason for firing him, He probably has a case unless they cook the records.