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East Africa: Severe drought due to climate change killing animals and a way of life

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Climate change is causing devastating droughts across East Africa - leading to an end of the pastoral way of life.


Many tribes across East Africa are having to leave their pastoral way of life for urban poverty because of severe droughts [Andrew Wander/Save the Children]

Whether you ask about the carcasses of livestock baked white in the sun, the gaggle of people crowding around the district commissioner's door, or the wards of malnourished children lying listlessly in hospital beds, the explanation given is always the same.

"It's because of the drought", they say.

The failure of rains across arid parts of East Africa has brought misery to millions of people, affecting almost every aspect of life.

In this dry, dusty part of the world, every drop that falls helps people scrape a living from the land. If the rains don't come for a season people go hungry. If they fail twice in a row, as they have in Kenya's impoverished north eastern province, they begin to starve.

At the hospital in Wajir town, the paediatric ward is full of young mothers clutching the tiny, wasted forms of their children.

Doctors estimate admissions for severe malnutrition in children have risen by at least 25 per cent in recent months, and fear that the dozens of referrals they have seen could be the tip of a large and deadly iceberg.

"Some parents are reluctant to bring their children to the hospital because it is such a long journey, or they don't recognise the symptoms of malnutrition. Some think they can cure the problem by praying - they don't realise the children need treatment. Children could be dying because of this and we wouldn't know about it," says Dr Moses Menza, the chief medical officer at the hospital.

He is talking at the bedside of two-year old Bashara, the daughter of nomadic cattle grazers who wander the desert four hours to the west of Wajir town. There is no need for Menza to explain what is wrong with her; her sunken features and twig-like limbs tell their own desperate tale.

Bashara is here with her grandmother, Amina Mohamed; her parents left her in the village and drove their animals to more fertile ground as the drought began to bite. She should have been safer there than out on the plains, but when the livestock began to die, the villagers found themselves with nothing to feed their families.

As always, it was growing children like Bashara who were hit hardest.

"The animals are the way we earn money and how we get food," Amina says, as she waves the flies off the starving child's tiny face. "Now they have died we have nothing to eat and nothing to sell. We have no milk any more, so we cannot feed the children."

Save the Children has treated thousands of drought-affected children for malnutrition in Kenya alone, and believes that across the region, in neighbouring Somalia and Ethiopia, more than millions of children could be at risk over the next three months.

"When these people lose their livestock, they lose their source of food, their livelihood and their savings in a single stroke," said Matt Croucher, Save the Children's regional emergency manager for East Africa.

"We can only imagine the desperation such families feel at not being able to give their children enough to eat and drink to stay healthy. They need help now, before this crisis turns into a catastrophe."

Changing climate

East Africans are no strangers to drought conditions. Traditionally, the rains here have failed around once a decade, giving communities time to build up emergency stocks and to restore the condition of their livestock on the good years. But for the past decade, droughts have been coming more regularly.

The people here reckon the rains fail one year in every two now; consecutive failings, like this one, have the potential to totally destroy the herds upon which they rely.

With their prime assets gone, they lose both their source of food, and their sole source of income. Their nomadic lifestyle prevents them from growing crops; the animals they graze are their only means to survive. Now it appears that climate change is robbing them of that livelihood.

A study by the US Geological Survey, published earlier this year, linked the increased frequency of drought in East Africa with global warming, suggesting that there is more than bad luck behind the latest wave of hunger sweeping the region.

Faced with a changing climate increasing numbers of pastoralists are leaving the land, settling in permanent communities on the edge of towns like Wajir. A way of life that has persisted for thousands of years is slowly dying out.

Those who leave will find little in the way of work in the towns. That pastoralists are willing to opt for grinding urban poverty over the only work they have ever known is a testament to how bad the situation has become.

For those who remain, the next few months will be critical.


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  • letsliveinpeace
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • http://allafrica.com/stories/201106170508.html
      Successive poor rains coupled with rising food and fuel prices are leading to a worsening food security situation with alarming levels of acute malnutrition being recorded in drought affected parts of Kenya, mainly in the north of the country, say experts.
      According to the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, 2011 is the driest period in the eastern Horn of Africa since 1995 "with no likelihood of improvement until early 2012".

      "From the nutrition point of view, it is possibly the worst we have seen in the last 20 years," Noreen Prendiville, chief of nutrition at the UN Children's Fund (UNICEF) Kenya office, told IRIN, noting that increased global acute malnutrition rates of over 35 percent are being seen in some drought-affected areas.
      "In less serious situations, one would hear so many requests for assistance with livestock or water, but just now, the number one request is food and the need is substantial and urgent."
      While past droughts have been longer, such as the 2008-09 one, "the current drought is severe, and its impacts have been exacerbated by extremely high food prices, reduced coping capacity, and a limited humanitarian response," said the Famine Early Warning Systems Network (FEWSNET)."
      _______
      This is the main concern behind climate change in East Africa. The rains are successively failing with temperatures increasing. Malnutrition then increases as does water scarcity and disease. In the past even though this area was susceptible to drought, it was not as sustained/severe as this and at least farmers got enough rains even small to grow grass and crops. This is now changing and is important because if this keeps up this land will be unsustainable for life.This is also the crux behind migration due to climate changes and being prepared. Governments on the whole have done an entirely inadequate job of placing the attention on this that needs be. In fact many governments in these countries are actually selling off more land to foreign countries to be cleared to grow biofuel crops and crops used as animal feed, thus decreasing land needed for food and forests and increasing the exceleration of climate change. This is for sure a viscious cycle with many lives at stake.

    • 11 months ago
  • JanforGore
  • Vierotchka
  • JanforGore
  • Milieu
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      Milieu  
    • re:tverdell
      Kochs would be proud of you and the other ostriches who have their heads buried in the............uh........ sand.

    • 11 months ago
  • tverdell
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      tverdell  
    • Milieu:

      Per John Kerry, his point is that it doesn't matter if you believe in GW or not, the steps taken to address it is something we all should agree upon.

      Perhaps the GW debate should be put on the back burner. Conservatives will NEVER concede.

      Perhaps we should focus on sustainable technologies without using GW as a premise.

      So stop forcing it down their throats, they will never accept it.
      They haven't accepted evolution so why would they accept GW?

    • 11 months ago
  • tverdell
  • coolplanet
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      coolplanet  
    • tverdell:

      Al Gore did not invent global warming!
      It has been the work of countless thousands of scientists in many fields over the past century who have proven beyond doubt that levels of greenhouse gasses control Earth's thermostat. Simply stated, less is colder, more is hotter.
      The man that should get the credit for alerting the world to global warming is James Hansen of NASA in his testamony to the U.S. Congress in 1988.

    • 11 months ago
  • coolplanet
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      coolplanet  
    • To the deniers~

      Al Gore writes in his latest book, Our Choice:

      "Even more insidious, the integrity of our democracy has been poisoned by a new kind of sophisticated, well-planned, and lavishly financed campaign aimed at actively misleading the public about what science actually tells us concerning the nature and severity of the climate crisis. This new technique--designed to actively deceive people by intentionally distorting the science--was actually pioneered decades ago by tobacco companies. They systematically created confusion about the medical consensus linking cigarette smoke to lung cancer, emphysema, heart disease, and other deadly health threats." (p.355)

    • 11 months ago
  • Warren_Merrill
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      Warren_Merrill  
    • The African continent is susceptible to droughts partly because of geography but often also due to poor agricultural practices. - BBC

      Our data indicate that, over the past millennium, equatorial east Africa has alternated between contrasting climate conditions, with significantly drier climate than today during the 'Medieval Warm Period' (AD 1000-1270) and a relatively wet climate during the 'Little Ice Age' (AD 1270-1850) which was interrupted by three prolonged dry episodes. - NOAA

      Global warming must have been a bitch during the Middle Ages. Those mule drawn carts and hut fires must have wreaked havoc on the climate.

    • 11 months ago
  • coolplanet
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      coolplanet  
    • Warren_Merrill:

      Africa is experiencing more severe droughts for two reasons.
      #1. Europeans have been clearcutting African forests to build their cities, ships, temples and furnature for thousands of years. It's even in the Old Testament! That is what caused the growth of the Sahara desert over the past 5,000 years according to science.
      #2. The shallow Indian ocean has been getting much warmer than other oceans for the past 40 years, interfering with monsoon seasons, according to climatologists.

      Humans have been altering the climate for the past 10,000 years with the invention of agriculture and domesticated animals clearing forests. There is even solid evidence that what caused the Mini Ice Age was the sudden death of hundreds of millions of American Indians from diseases and weapons introduced by Colombus and Cortez. The sudden drop in atmospheric carbon and methane as a result reduced greenhouse gasses. (See: "Plows, Plagues & Petroleum" by University of Virginia Professor William Ruddiman, Princeton 2006)

    • 11 months ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • Warren_Merrill:

      "East Africans are no strangers to drought conditions. Traditionally, the rains here have failed around once a decade, giving communities time to build up emergency stocks and to restore the condition of their livestock on the good years. But for the past decade, droughts have been coming more regularly."

      You obviously have little knowledge of what climate change is and does.
      The people living it however, do.

    • 11 months ago
  • JanforGore
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    • coolplanet:

      http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080805124005.htm
      Yes, the Indian Ocean is warming, causing more rainfall over the ocean and interfering with rainfall on shore.

      Excerpt:

      "The last 10 to 15 years have seen particularly dangerous declines in rainfall in sensitive ecosystems in East Africa, such as Somalia and eastern Ethiopia," said Molly Brown of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md., a co-author of the study. "We wanted to know if the trend would continue or if it would start getting wetter."

      To find out, the team analyzed historical seasonal rainfall data over the Indian Ocean and the eastern seaboard of Africa from 1950 to 2005. The NASA Global Precipitation Climatology Project's rainfall dataset provided a series of data covering both the land and the oceans. They found that declines in rainfall in Ethiopia, Kenya, Tanzania, Zambia, Malawi and Zimbabwe were linked to increases in rainfall over the ocean.

      The team used computer models that describe the atmosphere and historical climate data to identify and validate the source of this link. Lead author Chris Funk of the University of California, Santa Barbara, and colleagues showed that the movement of moisture onshore was disrupted by increased rainfall over the ocean.

      Funk and colleagues used a computer model from the National Center for Atmospheric Research to confirm their findings. The combination of evidence from models and historical data strongly suggest that human-caused warming of the Indian Ocean leads to an increase of rainfall over the ocean, which in turn adds energy to the atmosphere. Models showed that indeed, the added energy could create a weather pattern that reduces the flow of moisture onshore and bring dry air down over the African continent, reducing rainfall."

    • 11 months ago
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  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • I'm an optimist and I think there should be a way to cause increased condensation over these dry lands. The moisture must be UP THERE but it's passing them by... so some system needs to be floated up there to intercept the moisture and make it fall.

      Perhaps if the trillions being spent on war technologies could spare a few billion it could be done. Whichever scientist figured it out would be hailed for a very long time. Surely a solar driven system at the correct altitude could do some extra rainfall.

      We seem to have money for plenty of RAT STUDIES.

    • 11 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
  • coolplanet
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    • Gravity_Man:

      The technology is being developed currently, called "cloud whitening," where ships on the ocean pump sea water in tiny particles to form low clouds that not only reflect UV rays back into space but theoretically will produce mist and rain.
      I have read that scientists will test the theory in the Arctic possibly this year.
      It is being funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and I support this kind of research. If some unforseen climate problem arises all they have to do is stop the experiment.
      If it works it could buy us some time which is quickly running out!

    • 11 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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    • coolplanet:

      If they filter the water first it could work, but if they throw SALT WATER up in the air it might poisoin the land and the ground water table.

      But of course we just KNOW they thought of that already. Thanks for letting me know!!!

      I was thinking more along the lines of increasing rainfall of evaporated water that has already been somewhat filtered and cleansed... plus pulling moisture out UP THERE so it quits falling OVER HERE. And Australia.

      Something that would require some BRAINS not firehoses blowing up into the sky. I must be thinking of smart people on some other planet. Even Al Gore would come up with something better.

    • 11 months ago
  • coolplanet
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    • Gravity_Man:

      According to studies conducted by leading climate scientists including James Lovelock and published in peer-reviewed scientific journals it is microscopic molecules and chemicals in evaporating ocean water that stimulates rainfall (just as it is bacteria and molecules released from leaves that produce rain).
      Cloud whitening involves misting seawater at very low levels over the ocean and poses no risk of soil salinization.

    • 11 months ago
  • JanforGore
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • coolplanet:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqPBmERC7OU&feature=player_embedded

      The moringa tree is also a miracle tree that can be planted in semi-arid drought stricken tropical areas and provides all of the nutritional benefits a human needs. (One other good reason why GMOS are unnecessary in these countries.) I am awed by the benefits of this tree. So there are ways we can look to nature to help people in these areas of the world adapt to biodistress. Matter of fact, Tree Nation, an organization I support is planting moringas in Niger to heal deforested land and provide food and medicine to those living there.

    • 11 months ago
  • coolplanet
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      coolplanet  
    • JanforGore:

      The Shea Nut Tree is likewise extraordinarily healing and nutritious and is providing women in West Africa with a good income thanks to world demand.
      It also makes the BEST chocolate!
      Modern man desparetly need to grasp the practical significance of the Tree of Life.

    • 11 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • coolplanet:

      I see. I was under the impression our atmosphere had plenty of "microscopic molecules and chemicals" already. I must have read that in some backwoods non peer reviewed publications, maybe an old issue of Mother Earth News.

    • 11 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • JanforGore:

      My health tonic prevents, stops & reverses most every disease a person can have, helps diabetics, slowly eliminates allergies. But one of the ingredients that really made it rock was YELLOW ONIONS. I cut them up and microwaved them in water for a little over 3 minutes on Low Power. The microwaves increased their chemical potency.

      The Life Energy contained in onion cells is awesome and when we take in such natural ingredients their awesome cell vitality BECOMES OUR AWESOME CELL VITALITY.

      I think my telomeres are no longer shortening towards apoptosis... so I'm not feeling like I'm having a typical American shortage of wisdom any more. I'm also in a condition where I over-produce Stem Cells, enough to reverse and repair organ damage. In essence Jan I heal faster than diseases can kill me.

      All anyone needs to replicate those results is knowledge of my tonic.

    • 11 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Gravity_Man:

      My "Prospector's Gold Health Tonic" formula is not acceptable to be printed in any "Peer-Reviewed Scientific Journals".

      Much the same as my Zero Pollution car engines that do not require PLANET-POISONOUS ANTIFREEZE aren't found in any peer-reviewed scientific journals either.

      I'm gaining a great disrespect towards journals that exclude my discoveries but => the Egyptians erased the records of Moses' accomplishments also, so there ya go as actor Dennis Weaver playing Officer McCloud used ta say, there ya go, phooey stupid humans [who keep maintaining they're enlightened].

    • 11 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • JanforGore:

      I have indigenous blood in me too Jan, noting your obvious deep respect for their wisdom. I came by wisdom naturally, thru the Hopi blood => Grandma Beggs. Mom's 9 brothers and 8 sisters, they all looked family with elder Floyd Red Crow Westerman in this video. They had his skin color, said their words the same way, even down to the way he paused. They had very POWERFUL BLOOD... so your respect for them is very much warranted => http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7cylfQtkDg

      I've been posting there as "peacepipe4" for over a year, explaining exactly how my engines work so they would know what their Native American "Indian" blood had helped accomplish. I also took them deep sea diving through deep (and largely lost) Bible prophecies and understandings.

      I'm a Whole Package not spliced apart by this world that likes to splice people apart from their beliefs. Even if it means I get refused printing by "peer reviewed scientific journals" because it's THEIR LOSS NOT MINE.

    • 11 months ago
  • coolplanet
    • 0
      coolplanet  
    • Gravity_Man:

      The molecules in question are dimethyl sulphides from the oceans.
      Charlson, Lovelock, Andrea and Warren, the Journal Nature 1987.
      I am likewise a big fan of Mother Earth News and their spin-off, Real Goods.

    • 11 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • coolplanet:

      If it ever decides to work I'm depending on you to post the News. Right now it looks like them seeding DOWN THERE is increasing rainfall OVER HERE. The world is an interconnected Eco-System.

      Success appears to be quite elusive. Right offhand they don't seem to having any more success than I am. That's pathetic for professionas with credentials. With me not so much, for them a career killer.

      They may get dropped from writing in those peer reviewed journals.

    • 11 months ago
  • coolplanet
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      coolplanet  
    • Gravity_Man:

      The cloud whitening experiment has not yet begun in the Arctic.
      It's main purpose is not to increase rainfall but to increase Albedo (reflectivity) of clouds in order to reduce heat absorbtion.
      Please give it a chance before jumping to wild conclusions.

    • 11 months ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • Well, we aren't all just sitting here debating it. Some of us are putting out wild fires, addressing unprecedented flooding, dealing with crop devastating droughts of other verifiable effects of global warming right here in the U.S.! In my own community we only have about 20 days left of potable water before we have to buy more from who ever has it to spare. Meanwhile, they are still allowing people to irrigate their yards one day per week. Climate change had made itself undeniable here.

    • 11 months ago
  • IceKat
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      IceKat  
    • Image
    • In Ethiopia, the National Meteorology Agency reported that a “moderate to strong” La Niña phenomenon was likely to continue, potentially until June, resulting in below-normal rains in many areas, except in the west and southwest, where they are expected to be normal.

      La Niña again.... and again, this from NASA's Earth Observatory.

      "Poor or failed rainfall during the short rain growing season (October to December) is a classic La Niña signal. In late 2010, a strong La Niña cooled surface waters in the central and eastern Pacific Ocean, while allowing warmer water to build in the eastern Pacific. The pool of warm water in the east intensifies rains in Australia, the Philippines, and Indonesia. Domino-style, this pattern also increases the intensity of westerly winds over the Indian Ocean, pulling moisture away from East Africa toward Indonesia and Australia. The result? Drought over most of East Africa and floods and lush vegetation in Australia and other parts of Southeast Asia."

      So, a natural weather event, one which was predicted and is well understood.
      Doesn't stop the climate extremists from trying to pin this onto man though, does it!
      Some people need to do some serious learning!

    • 11 months ago
  • coolplanet
    • +2
      coolplanet  
    • IceKat:

      What is your source CLS?
      Climate Liars Society???
      I've seen your deniars websites and their fake photoshop graphs.
      El Ninos and La Ninas are increasing in frequency and severity and scientists are concluding that this is a result of global warming.

    • 11 months ago
  • IceKat
  • IceKat
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      IceKat  
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    • coolplanet:

      "I've seen your deniars websites and their fake photoshop graphs. "

      Actually, Coolplanet, I'm not really a fan of fake images either, but this one presented by your idol was amazing. (image above)

      She wrote, "Oh, and on edit: before I too get attacked for using a "scaremongering" picture, that is Brisbane after the recent flooding" - JanforGore

      Unfortunately for her, it wasn't a picture of Brisbane at all but a Photoshopped picture of London, designed for only one purpose; to scare people, i.e a scaremongering picture!
      She just copied it from a website that wrote the words she wanted to read - basically a scaremongering website - and she accepted it without question and even tried to post the disinformation here until she was caught out.
      And you have the nerve to call anyone who delivers scientific data that disproves your failed theories liars.

    • 11 months ago
  • coolplanet
  • coolplanet
  • JanforGore
    • +2
      JanforGore  
    • coolplanet:

      It's great to know you get to someone so much that they need to stoop to lying. That means you're doing something right.

      http://current.com/technology/92933891_wash-times-attacks-gore-for-linking-globa...

      Oh, and just to clarify the lie: An original story I posted about the flooding in Australia had a picture of London with the story. When I posted it that picture came up, so I changed it to Brisbane which is the photo in the post. But just like these deniers who have no substance do to Al Gore, this desperate person took a shot of the post with the old picture before it was changed to try to discredit me. Again, proof positive they have nothing of substance here to add but to attack the messenger and provide nothing but fake colored graphs with no credibility. This is a serious crisis we face, and they are playing games on a message board. Truly embarrassng for them and their alter egos here I'd say.

    • 11 months ago
  • JanforGore
  • coolplanet
  • dkl165
  • dkl165
  • dkl165
  • dkl165
  • dkl165
  • IceKat
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      IceKat  
    • Image
    • JanforGore:

      Ah yes, lie all you want Jan but you and I know the truth.
      You read an article that said the words you wanted to read and you posted it here without checking the facts or the image contained within the article.

      "When I posted it that picture came up, so I changed it to Brisbane which is the photo in the post." - JanforGore
      Your post was up for all to see for quite some time. Had it been a mistake that you instantly realised you had made, why did it take you so long to change it, and only after I had written my comment?
      As the screen-shot above shows, your "Oh, and on edit:" statement had been up for at least 39 minutes before I saw it. So, it takes 39 minutes for you to see the difference between a photo of London and Brisbane.

      Attack the messenger? Of course, if the messenger is one who proffers disinformation and propaganda.

      "Again, proof positive they have nothing of substance here to add..." Oh, now that statement is rich! People have posted credible scientific information here that disputes your ideologically based propaganda time and time again. Is there ever any debate? No. All we get from you is accusations of; being paid for by Big Oil, not caring about our grandchildren or anyone else, or being part of a political party.

      You really ought to get away from your computer and see the real world instead of sitting there day after day posting stories and attributing them to the failed man-made Global Warming theory while aligning yourself with the laughing-stock that is Mr. Gore!

    • 11 months ago
  • IceKat
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      IceKat  
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    • dkl165:

      Absolutely. I took screenshots before pointing out her error.
      Not having a strong backbone, she then ripped the story from Current and re-posted it with a more relevant picture, instead of having the guts to admit her error.

    • 11 months ago
  • JanforGore
  • IceKat
    • +2
      IceKat  
    • JanforGore:

      It seems I know a hell of a lot more about the science behind this subject than you think, which is why you have never been able to debunk a single comment of mine. You always steer well clear of any questions I ask, and you have even admitted you know noting about charts and graphs.
      You aren't the only one I respond to here, there are others, so don't flatter yourself, you aren't that important.
      The truth, Jan? The truth is not that the world is burning up because of man's use of fossil fuels, and you know it! Yes there are severe weather events occurring in the world, but that is not unusual. Severe weather does happen and yes, people get hurt, but trying to blame man for the catastrophes is neither sensible nor productive.
      When someone like you decides to publish propaganda to the readers, it's the duty of people like me (and a few others here on Current) to show the readers there is an alternative view, and if that means showing people that you show a lack of regard for truth and honesty and dignity then I'll do my best to expose it in the little time I have to spend here.
      If I had a Ruble for every time you have told me you will not respond to me, I'd be rich enough to buy a solar panel!!!

    • 11 months ago
  • IceKat
    • +1
      IceKat  
    • ArchDruid:

      "Not really a fake..."
      Oh, it is absolutely a fake, and if you know London you'd know it's a fake.
      As has already been stated here, London is more at risk of sinking into the sea than of the sea taking over the land.

    • 11 months ago
  • lamborghini
  • IceKat
    • +1
      IceKat  
    • lamborghini:

      But if I was to follow her around and vote up her every comment, and agree with her every word with relentless blind acceptance (like some people do) would you still accuse me of being obsessed?

    • 11 months ago
  • percipi224
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      percipi224  
    • JanforGore:

      i just looked on your link and there is no image. granted i am late to this string in the conversation but why do folks feel they have to deny at all. if they don't believe the science than why the need to argue against climate change and humanitys part. it should be a none issue go read something else. so that leaves me to believe that the people who like to goad Al Gore through you are doing it out of malice not thoughtful need to have discourse on the subject. i wish we didn't have to waste our time on constantly defending a position against those who only want to waste out time and for no other reason than ego.

    • 11 months ago
  • JanforGore
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • dkl165
  • IceKat
  • artemis6
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  • 14_Crusaders
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  • cwebbpt4
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • People in this area are starving, dying, warching their animals die and needing to move to places that cannot accomodate their traditions and lifestyles. Yet, here we sit still debating is it or isn't it. It is downright sickening.

    • 11 months ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • JanforGore
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • JanforGore:

      Oh, I realize that Jan, and I don't mean to take exception with your post. I was wryly attempting to expand upon your point actually. I can put my tongue too far into my cheek occasionally. But kudos on your posting. You've obviously been working very hard.

    • 11 months ago
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