MSNBC w/ Cenk: Lt Choi - Obama Marriage Equality Stance 'Grave Insult'

You say:
"If your gay and you support Obama, your an idiot."

Allow me to correct your spelling errors:

If you're gay and you DON'T support Obama, you're an idiot.

You just needed three little contractions there.
You are welcome.

Us gays are smart enough to tell the diference between Obama, who has not yet done enough, and the Republicans, who want to put us in concentration camps.

Finally, someone with common sense.

Hi ... Thanks for the video link. Lt. Choi is right, of course, but the whole picture is much bigger. I was one of those who sat in front of the TV waiting to see the first gay Bishop speak at the innaugural festivities (as advertised) but the TV coverage didn't include it. The homophobic Rick Warren was given center stage. What a disappointment. I complained to the White House and was told it was the networks decision not to air the gay Bishop. Never did believe that. I wrote articles to newspapers, which were printed and then I gave it a backseat, but I never forgot the politics of the decision.
Obama can do more for human rights as a second term President and that's why he's hedging now... it's political. He doesn't want to piss off the moderates. After he's elected, it will be a sprint to the finish with human rights legislation and a lot more. I'd rather see him elected than anyone I can think of. However, if I were Lt Choi and I was fired from the service because I was gay, I'd feel pretty much the way he does. It's a travesty that he isn't
proudly serving AND receiving back pay.

I can empathize with Lt. Choy's views and the reasons that he got them. He must remember though, he is the face of an important and controversial issue. It's a tough position to be in. He has chosen to fight instead of back down, always a good choice. As Liberals we have to choose our battles and words carefully. The Teacons are ready to pounce on any thing they perceive as a division among us.

Dan Choi has every right to be angry, he got fired from a job that he was good at and loved , because in this day and age still have intolerance and hate. Second it's not like he personally was asked by someone if he was gay and responded yes. Just like so many through no fault of their own, someone else suspected, spied on them, went through personal emails it was found out these service members were gay. The suspicion alone in some causes forced some of them out. No one asked and they sure as hell didn't tell. They did nothing wrong as far as the policy and yet they were punished for the prying of others. So yea I would be angry too. Sure Obama ended DADT but it has still yet to be implemented and I haven't heard anything about whether the thousands of people fired from DADT will even be able to get their jobs back. The military isn't one for re hires.
I do understand though if the LGBT community pushes too hard that support for Obama will go down and Democrats could end up losing in 2012, but Equal rights is supposed to be a given in American, not something the states should be able to discriminate about. It's a Federal issue that Obama needs to do what the majority of the population want and that is make equal rights for the LGBT community.
As far as Bachman I think her party will be behind her as far as her becoming the Republican nominee, but America as a whole will not tolerate someone that quotes scripture and says god told her to do something. She is injecting her religious beliefs to make policy and she is going to learn that the majority of Americans want their voice heard and not the voices in her head.
Come now Africa? We are not Africa when it comes to equal rights. It's horrible what it is like in Africa as far as being gay. It's still a battle but the growing number of the people in America either support the LGBT community or know it won't affect them if they have equal rights

Very cool picture indeed!

Cool photo !!!

Thanks for the clarity about DADT, TDK729. That's what Dan Choi was getting at here.

Funny how you wasted yours and my time to reply here... =)

Cool, I wish you the Best... =)

I will leave this comment of mine in negative format... It sure says a lot about you H20_4U... =)

The fact you can't leave me alone says a lot about you.

So does the fact you can't shut your Da*ned Mouth.... "You attacked...." Not me...

Personal insults? Really? That says a lot about you.

An image of a crying baby? Real mature KB723, that's really what an adult would do.

That says a lot about you.

Does it now??? Tell me how so????

You really can't let it go?

Fine, you win KB. You win. Is this what you want to hear?

Feel better? Respond 'yes' by getting control of your life.

And yes, clearly it does.

If you boys don't play nice I'm gonna turn this thread around and we'll all just go home right now!

Don't make me pull this thread over.

Now kiss and make up!

(hard to believe I had to post this.....it was reflex action.....couldn't help myself...call it the "Parent-Reflex")

Thank you HSouixZ, it was getting heating and KB and I are making amends.

Thanks HSouixZ... =)

Rude!!!

Really? I'm glad you can do that for yourself but I don't want to see it.

LOL!!!! =)

Um, okay, thanks for your concerns, name-calling isn't very civilized but pushing past it does mean we can come to a mutual trade off.

Is h2o_4u a variation of the AuH20 used as a bumper sticker a long time ago? If so, I voted against your hack at that time, and he is still superior to any candidates elected or otherwise your party has produced since then, including Regan!

Perhaps if we just repealed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as a flawed document, and replaced it with a civil rights at that guaranteed all Americans equal protection under the law, Obama might get serious about his DADT 2008 promise.

Let's make his kids bastards and see how quick he sees the benefit in equal rights for all Americans.

TLbuffin is right. It is a political tightrope and timing is important. Also don't be surprised when the SCOTUS rules that equality is constitutional. The federal cases winding through the courts are going to come to a head: at SCOTUS. Our day is coming to be sure.

My friend has a tattoo on his arm: Do not invent with your mouth what you did not see with your eyes or hear with your ears.