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Liberal Groups Pouring in Uncapped and Undocumented Funds to Seat Liberals in Top Election Posts

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Kylee_Darwin
Corruption isn't uniquely Republican. This liberal group's ploy reeks of vote-buying. I don't think any politician can be trusted, nor can individuals with an agenda. If we want elections that are representative of the people, it seems that we'd have a bipartisan group to oversee the vote-counting process. That fact that this liberal group is buying these posts with uncapped donations does little to curb my concerns.

With all of the uproar about what's happening in WI, I would expect to see people as outraged at this, but sadly, people don't seem to mind when the corruption serves their own interests.


"A small tax-exempt political group with ties to wealthy liberals like billionaire financier George Soros has quietly helped elect 11 reform-minded progressive Democrats as secretaries of state to oversee the election process in battleground states and keep Republican 'political operatives from deciding who can vote and how those votes are counted.'

Known as the Secretary of State Project (SOSP), the organization was formed by liberal activists in 2006 to put Democrats in charge of state election offices, where key decisions often are made in close races on which ballots are counted and which are not.

The group’s website said it wants to stop Republicans from 'manipulating' election results.

'Any serious commitment to wresting control of the country from the Republican Party must include removing their political operatives from deciding who can vote and whose votes will count,' the group said on its website, accusing some Republican secretaries of state of making 'partisan decisions.'..."


Yeah, that doesn't sound shady at all...
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32 comments // Liberal Groups Pouring in Uncapped and Undocumented Funds to Seat Liberals in Top Election Posts

  • GRC54
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      GRC54  
    • The only way to fight the money bags is with money bags. Nobody the likes of the day dreamer Beck should say squat about Soros giving money to elect Dams into office. Just look at other states where the money junkies gave to elect Rethugs into power Thanks to the Gang of 5 in our law making Supreme Court for their ruling.
      The corporations want to donate to candidates as individuals then they should be taxed as individuals, the highest tax rate.

    • 11 months ago
  • jackshin
    • -1
      jackshin  
    • "A small tax-exempt political group with ties to wealthy liberals like billionaire financier George Soros"
      Funny, lets break that down a bit, when they write "small" they mean to imply as a collection of a few, new world order crew, and who leads, George Soros. Isn't there any other billionaires that support progressive ideas...hmm maybe not.

      Oh I see, it legitimizes the "thousands" of poor rich puke pac groups, who are run by college educated drop outs, who aren't afriad to ask for a donation from a senior citizen or a welfare mother. Give us your money so I can stay rich to protect you.

    • 11 months ago
  • toadware
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      toadware  
    • Even though your charge of "corruption" is absurd I have been alarmed at the trend of politicians to receive aid from those outside of their immediate sphere of representation.

      I believe politicians should NOT be able to receive aid from *any* person that does not have a first home in their immediate jurisdiction.

      I also believe politicians should not be able to receive aid from *any* corporation in *any* form -- ever.

      At one time corporations claimed they could not be sued by humans because humans could only sue other humans and a corporation was not a human. In response courts ruled that corporations were to be considered people in as much that they could sue and be sued. The corporation itself was never ever meant to have free speech or rights.

      Until this "legal" fiction is abolished there is little to be done.

    • 11 months ago
  • toadware
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      toadware  
    • Your charge of “corruption” and “vote buying” is absurd. If it wasn’t so baseless I would spend the time to refute it.

      If you check the “Friends of John Boehner” committee you will see that from the first 366 (of 10991) contributors alone 28% of the money came from wealthy outsider making the max or near max contribution allowable under law.

      http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/com_ind/C00237198/

    • 11 months ago
  • Kylee_Darwin
    • +1
      Kylee_Darwin  
    • toadware:

      I am not implying that Republicans don't do the same thing, although it likely looks different. Uncapped donations from any individual, corporation, union, etc are a threat to our representative democracy. I say the same thing about this activity on both sides...

      I find it absurd that people ignore it when it benefits their cause...

    • 11 months ago
  • toadware
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      toadware  
    • The Washington Times is a Reagan error newspaper owned by a group (i.e., the “Moonies") that believes a Korean man named Mun Yong Myong is the Messiah and the Second Coming of Christ and is fulfilling Jesus’ unfinished mission.

      On November 2, 2010, Moon and a group of former Washington Times editors purchased the paper from Moon's son, Preston Moon, for $1.

      I understand the term Moonie is not well liked by Unification Church members and I use it only to provide a point of reference for those who are unfamiliar with the term, “Unificationist”.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times

    • 11 months ago
  • TheAmbivalante
    • +1
      TheAmbivalante  
    • Amazing lack of context and detail in this article. Saw it the other day and wondered how long it would be before a troll posted it here.

      FYI-The Right has roughly a ten-to-one spend advantage and are very much owned by mega corporations. Not so much on the Dem side. And Soros contributions aren't nearly as significant the Glen Beckies scream about. In fact, Soros donations are dwarfed by the Koch Brothers alone.

      Take your Right Wing Talking Points over Fox. They like half-truths and lies there.

    • 11 months ago
  • Kylee_Darwin
    • +1
      Kylee_Darwin  
    • TheAmbivalante:

      Wow, you're a gem. Is your first reaction always name-calling? I didn't insult anyone, simply said that corruption wasn't uniquely Republican. If you honestly can't see that, then I feel sorry for you.

      The groups do exist, even if the Washington Times made a mish-mash of it all. It doesn't change the fact that there are groups trying to buy the election process. I find that unacceptable from either side. It would only make sense to have a bipartisan panel responsible for determining "which votes count," not one self-seeking party, whether that party is Republican or Democratic.

    • 11 months ago
  • Swisher
    • +1
      Swisher  
    • I'll choose my poison. Politicians bought by corporations, for corporations, to undercut the citizens or politicians bought by wealthy citizens to undercut the bought corporaticians. Easy.

    • 11 months ago
  • Bmad
    • +1
      Bmad  
    • The Washington Times is about as accurate, truthful and legitimate as the "standard" oil company contingency for catastrophic oil spills.

    • 11 months ago
  • BrushwithDeathToothpaste
    • +1
      BrushwithDeathToothpaste  
    • keep Republican 'political operatives from deciding who can vote and how those votes are counted

      People are donating money to insure votes are counted fairly and voters are not purged based on flimsy criteria? Wow that sounds pretty corrupt. We should eliminate all 527s in response.

    • 11 months ago
  • Kylee_Darwin
  • sharin
    • -1
      sharin  
    • Kylee_Darwin:

      and why do you think all democrats were so up in arms about the citizens united ruling? You know what that is, right? the SCOTUS ruling last year that said corporations can give unlimited funds to candidates. The SCOTUS ruling the all the Republicans cheered about

    • 11 months ago
  • Kylee_Darwin
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      Kylee_Darwin  
    • sharin:

      I am aware, yes. And if you are assuming I am a Republican, then I'm sorry to disappoint you because I am not. I think many Republicans are just as hypocritical as many of those responding to me on this site. I never said Republicans don't do the exact same thing, in fact I directly implied that this type of behavior occurs on both sides in my original post and stated that outright in subsequent responses. I just think if liberals/democrats are going to get all up in arms about the ruling you referenced, then they ought to be just as upset when that type of behavior occurs within their ranks. Problem is, too many apparently feel that the ends justify the means. Because this specific example serves your interests (no, I am not addressing you specifically), then it is an acceptable practice. That's hypocrisy.

      And I mentioned Soros because I found it odd that you mentioned him by name when I purposefully did not. I thought that perhaps you were under the impression that I was making claims about him that I had not made. There's no need for you to get bent out of shape about it, because I wasn't accusing you of anything. Please refrain from "raising your voice" through the repeated use of caps lock. If you're not capable of communicating in a civil manner, I'd prefer to end our discussion here.

      As you pointed out, the groups do exist and contributions are uncapped. That's why I posted it. That's newsworthy. That's worth discussion. If all you're going to do is focus of the fact that it came from the Washington Times and your annoyance with how the article was written, then take that up with the editor. Better yet, get one of your liberal news outlets to publish this information. Problem is, they won't because they're not about truth and transparency either. I've said it multiple times now, but it bears repeating that every news outlet, no matter how unbiased and truthful they may claim to be, has some sort of slant or outright agenda. People, even journalists (I should say especially journalists) have emotions and opinions that are going to show through the black and white details of the who, what, when, and where.

    • 11 months ago
  • sharin
    • +4
      sharin  
    • WaTimes has mashed together a couple of different groups, creating an article full of mis informaiton (lies)
      The Secretary of State project, a 526 group, was indeed formed in 2006 (without money from Soros)
      the House Majority PAC, a new Democratic Super PAC is the one that received funding from Soros

      527 groups have been around for a very long time - in the 1997 McCain Feingold financial reform bill, attempts were made to limit these groups - failed. You might recognize some names of other 527 groups: the Swiftboat Veterans for truth, MoveOn.org, the Republican governors association and the Democratic Governors association. In the 2010 election cycle, GOP 527's spent over $217million on elections and Dem 527 spen over $207. NewsMeat lists political contributions of all kinds of people and under the Soros listing not a single dime is donated to Secretary of State project

      The House Majority PAC is in response to the Citizens United ruling handed down by the SCOTUS last year. Soros has donated $75 K to this group, which, by the way, isn't even close to the larges donation of $200K by the public employees union

      many top democrats do't like that the Dems are now using Super PACs but as Debbie Wsserman Schultz said so perfectly: "Progressives shouldn't be unilaterally disarming." We have to fight fire with fire

    • 11 months ago
  • Kylee_Darwin
    • +1
      Kylee_Darwin  
    • sharin:

      So, you're saying these groups do exist. They do receive unlimited funding (when attempts to limit them failed). Soros and unions made large donations (I didn't mention him by the way because I didn't find a tie to SOSP - Washington Times made that claim).

      I don't see how valid information should be pushed aside because of the source. The ploy to try and buy elections by either side is a threat to our country. No it's not uniquely Republican, nor is it uniquely Democratic - which is what my original post stated.

    • 11 months ago
  • toadware
  • Kylee_Darwin
    • +1
      Kylee_Darwin  
    • toadware:

      Are you serious? It's a news publication. They're all filled with "lies," half-truths, omissions, and skewed information. The manner in which events or even our history is perceived is dependent upon the slant put on it. Even those with the best of intentions are likely to taint a story with their personal opinions in some way - usually the wording. It requires an intelligent person to navigate through the crap without throwing out the truths. I thought I would find some people on here capable of thinking for themselves. As for those pieces of truth, they shouldn't be ignored. Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

      I posted it because I knew such groups existed but weren't reported by more liberal outlets. I thought there might be some liberals concerned about such practices. I know it matters to you when the shoe is on the other foot. But you guys seem to be just as bad as hardcore conservatives if you're going to pick and choose which facts you care to listen to and filter out anything that you perceive to be a threat to your ideals. Corruption on the left should be at the top of your list, but you apparently only see it for the benefits it brings...

    • 11 months ago
  • sharin
    • -1
      sharin  
    • Kylee_Darwin:

      no, I'm claiming the moon is made of cheese
      and where exactly in my comment do you see me accusing YOU, personally, of stating G Soros made donations to Sec. of St. Proj.? oh, that's right, i DON'T. WaTimes is merely trying to smear Mr. Soros specifically and Democrats in general with this sensationalistic headline. Yellow journalism at it's finest. The fact that you are the purveyor of this yellow journalism says a WHOLE lot about you

    • 11 months ago
  • mii
    • 0
      mii  
    • Democrats have been bullied and rendered impotent by
      Republican tactics. We need to beat them at their own
      game if we have any hope of preserving our rights as
      citizens.

    • 11 months ago
  • jubal
    • +1
      jubal  
    • Turn about is fair play. Republicans have been doing it as matter of basic business practice, Dems are just now catching up to the crap that was already started. The GOP leaves liberals no choice but to beat them at their own game.

    • 11 months ago
  • Blueshound9
  • toadware
  • Kylee_Darwin
  • ksyellowdog
  • Milieu
  • Milieu
  • Kylee_Darwin
    • -2
      Kylee_Darwin  
    • Milieu:

      While you may not agree with Op-Ed articles on more conservative publications, it's asinine to completely disregard news articles posted there. Just as more liberal publications expose corruption or scandal on the Republican side, traditionally conservative publications serve that same role when it comes to exposing questionable behaviors among democrats or progressives.

      To truly get a balanced perspective, you ought to read both of them. I always do and I can assure you that there are stories to be read outside of your precious MSNBC and Huffington Post.

      Liberal publications only print what furthers their agenda. Conservative publications do the exact same thing. But that doesn't make what either side is reporting a lie. Obviously, those Op-Eds are mostly just garbage on both sides.

      Here are some other links about this same info. Hopefully you can get past your liberal filters and actually read something before writing it off.

      http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-08-16-secretary-state-democrats_x.h...
      http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/15105.html

      I doubt you'll find this on MSNBC, I tried looking, but I wouldn't expect anything different from them. Just like you don't expect much from Hannity, who I abhor by the way. I could say the same for Limbaugh...

    • 11 months ago
  • jackshin
    • 0
      jackshin  
    • Kylee_Darwin:

      but if it is a inaccurate story, then what is to be taken from it, you could also research a little, do a little bit more than post an op-ed piece and then claim to be persucuted for being openminded.

    • 11 months ago
  • figgdimension
  • Kylee_Darwin
    • 0
      Kylee_Darwin  
    • Corruption isn't uniquely Republican. This liberal group's ploy reeks of vote-buying. I don't think any politician can be trusted, nor can individuals with an agenda. If we want elections that are representative of the people, it seems that we'd have a bipartisan group to oversee the vote-counting process. That fact that this liberal group is buying these posts with uncapped donations does little to curb my concerns.

    • 11 months ago
  • jackshin
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