Senator Sanders tells Obama: Don’t let Republicans blackmail you again
source: http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/06/senator-sande...
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Posted on 06.27.11
By Eric W. Dolan
“At a time when the richest people and the largest corporations in our country are doing phenomenally well, and, in many cases, have never had it so good, while the middle class is disappearing and poverty is increasing, it is absolutely imperative that a deficit reduction package not include the disastrous cuts in programs for working families, the elderly, the sick, the children and the poor that the Republicans in Congress, dominated by the extreme right wing, are demanding,” Sanders said on the Senate floor Monday.
“Instead of yielding to the incessant, extreme Republican demands, as the President did during last December’s tax cut agreement and this year’s spending negotiations, the President has got to get out of the beltway and rally the American people who already believe that deficit reduction must be about shared sacrifice.”
“Republicans in Washington have never believed in Medicare, Medicaid, federal assistance in education, or providing any direct government assistance to those in need,” he added. “They have always believed that tax breaks for the wealthy and the powerful would somehow miraculously trickle down to every American, despite all history and evidence to the contrary. So, in that sense, it is not strange at all that they would use the deficit crisis we are now in as an opportunity to balance the budget on the backs of working families, the elderly, the sick, the children and the poor, and work to dismantle every single successful government program that was ever created.”
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"Sadly sometimes what we ask not to happen, does happen!!!"
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navider
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Bernie is one of the last true american patriots in the Senate!!
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PIANORAMA
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Once again, here's the petition! Please sign! http://sanders.senate.gov/petition/?uid=c1fd7f9b-abd8-4e7a-a370-1867881259d8
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PIANORAMA
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PIANORAMA
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Good for Bernie, once again! http://www.truth-out.org/sen-bernie-sanders-we-will-not-balance-budget-backs-wor...
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Petition - Shared Sacrifice: U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders (Vermont)
sanders.senate.gov http://sanders.senate.gov/petition/?uid=c1fd7f9b-abd8-4e7a-a370-1867881259d8 - 11 months ago
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Miown
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ColeRayne
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Take part in the conciousness shift that is happening, dream bigger, dare to take a stand in your convictions, be the cange the world wants to see.
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Miown
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ColeRayne:
Hey Cole, check out this petition. I signed it, with hope that others will find it here as well.
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Miown
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samthesixth
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When I translated Sanders words they read "grow a pair."
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samthesixth
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deane
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Corporate person hood has the say in America. "We the People" has become "We the Corporate Person Hood's."
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deane
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KB723
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Holy Makerel, I am pleased this is still here on the top ten.. Too Cooool... =)
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PressCore
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It's not that Nobama allows himself to be blackmailed. The problem is that
he CAN be so easily blackmailed, because he's so blackmailable. He
promised transparency, but all we've seen is a slick politician so sleezy
he'd make the Amsterdam red light district whores blush. What do people
realisticly expect from someone who greased himself up the ladder of
corruption in Chicago infamous for it's history of corrupt politicians and
prohibitionist Racketeers ? A tradition still very much alive and well there.
Nobama makes the perfect puppet. Rostradamus provided us with a
comment & a link to how the CIA & George Bush Jr.were preening
Nobama to be nominated. Yes they can ! How's trix,elephant ears ?
The real problem is that Americans are so gullible, ignorant, and
mindlessly foolish that when they see someone who's too good to be
true, they stupidly assume he is. Mr. Sanders is wasting his breath.
Next year, the Democrats have the chance to correct their mistake
and nominate Dennis Kucinich. If we had a bona fide choice, say
between Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul, at least we'd have a chance
to elect rather than erect a president so good judgement, and not
wishfull thinking could prevail. - 11 months ago
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David_H [removed]
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David_H:
Nobama reminds me of of a scene in Mel Brooks' movie History of the World
Part 1. Specificly of the pre French Revolution scene in which he plays Louis,
calling Harvy Korman who plays Count D' Monet. Brooks: Oh, count da money !
Count da money !, Where are you, count da money ? Sir, I'll have you know it's
promounced COUNT D' MONAY. Brooks: Yeah, whatever count da money.
Brooks as King Louis: " It's good to be da King ! " That way Nobama can count
da money. Heh. I may be cynical but no horses ass " messiah " can fool me. - 11 months ago
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nobsartist
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Funny, though, as soon as Ford Motor got a TEN YEAR NO TAX ON PROFITS deal, they pay that dumb fuck Alan Mullaly 330 MILLION DOLLARS.
Trickle down, my ass.
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nardo1224
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This is the way I see it.
Obama knew he would never get elected running as a Republican, so he dressed himself up in all his liberal democrat garb, put on his biggest Cheshire Cat grin, played up to the masses to get elected and once the oath was given, (twice I might add, should have been a signal). threw off his liberal pretensions and strutted forward as a full fledged Ronald Reagan loving, Tax cut giving,Corporation serving,Conservative Republican in all his full glory.
Now that he's in, just try to get him out!Call me crazy but I call them as I see them.
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nardo1224:
"jutanotherbushofadiffrentcolor".
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nobsartist:
lol Can't argue with that.
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nardo1224:
You're crazy.
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bluestranger
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It shouldn't have come to this. But All the Dem.s are going to have to grow a pair.If you can't do your job GTFO.
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bluestranger:
I like your zero-tolerance attitude.
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dinm76
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If Obama caves in and cuts Medicare or Social Security in ANY way, he is toast in 2012. Even if an off-the-farm nut job like Bachman is the candidate.
PLEASE sign the letter now.
Sanders plan is the only realistic approach! - 11 months ago
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dinm76:
I'd like to think he's toast in 2012 anyway but the sheeple are stupid...
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PigFarmington
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The money speaks louder than Sanders, unfortunately... Obama has had 3 years to speak up. Why would he now?
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PigFarmington:
Because now the monkey knows his sands are running out of the hourglass.
And he won't have a chance to put his feet upon the desk of the oval office or
play golf on worktime. The Democrats are a lost cause if they won't correct
their mistakes and nominate Kucinnich & Grayson instead of the 2 shitheads
substituting for honest men now. The idea that anyone with a closed mind, and
too much appeal to emotion,rather than reason, claims Nobama is a realistic
choice reminds me of the mellowdrama of the 1977 Star Wars movie, except
that Nobama's name is not Obewon. - 11 months ago
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CursingOldGoat
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I signed the letter on Senator Sanders website to the President, did you??? If you care about America at all, vote for people that care about the country AS A WHOLE—not corrupt, self-serving politicians who are happy to deliver what's left of America to corporations (and the wealthy) on a platinum platter while using social issues like abortion and gay marriage to hook you in. Trust me...they could care less about those issues—they're playing on your beliefs and taking you for fools.
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CursingOldGoat:
I signed his letter.
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ecoalex
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Yup,Obama caved,took the bush tax cuts off the table,but not medicare cuts.
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WagonMaster
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I believe Obama will cave to the GOP once again and our country will slide even closer to being a 5th world Theocratic Totalitarian Oligarthy. Problem being...I may still be alive to see it.
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WagonMaster:
You have got my nomination for comment of the three day cycle (the three day cycle is an intensely spiritual thing... it is a great honor to recieve such a nomination).
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WagonMaster:
Right on... why would he now, when he could have for the past 2.5 years?!
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EmileZ:
Do I get a prize.?..Do I get a prize ?
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WagonMaster:
I have to agree, wagonmaster.
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WagonMaster:
I bet Obama does it in one of his infamous, locked-doors, backroom deals with the corporate lobbyists and the GOP, just like he did for his HCR and just like he did for extending tax cuts for the rich at the end of last year.
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PigFarmington:
Well, he would SAY now that he would do it, but it would mean as much as when he made his 2008 campaign promises...nothing.
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amo42
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The President has the option of vetoing a debt ceiling bill. He would take a big political hit, but the corporations and high income individuals will be far more impacted by not raising the debt ceiling then individuals.
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Sic 'em, Bernie.
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Saw this late last night and Bernie is right. Obama is our president but somehow he lost his manhood when it comes to getting things done the right way. He still wants to compromise with them there GOPers. Don't fall for it they will get you to do their bidding for them and walk away free to create more wealth for those who don't need it.
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Poor Bernie Sanders, wasting all of his time and energy on a hopeless case. I've herd the saying if at first you don't succeed, try and try again. But I've also heard this one. the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
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nardo1224:
I think Bernie Sanders has more chance of succeeding in what is his goal than Obama has in fooling as many people in 2012 as he fooled in 2008.
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i wish more senators were like this man. he is honest and truly is trying to help the american people. god bless senator sanders.
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christines_LI:
He's a Socialist and a Vermonter. I LOVE THIS MAN.
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Yeah, but how does one stop blackmailers from committing blackmail?
All he can do is cave in, thus look bad, or let the Republicans kill something else, which also makes him look bad.
The only defense I can see is, like Sanders suggested, go straight to the media and let the public know all the little details of how Republicans sacrifice the wellbeing of this country to line their pockets.
Even that won't do much, since the people who still vote Republican don't trust any media that is honest with them, they only trust the media that lies to them.
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UtopianSky:
The only way to stop blackmailers from blackmailing you is to refuse to participate.
But I'm not so sure we can assume it is blackmail that motivates Obama. He is very savvy politically in getting what he wants...unfortunately, most of the time it is not what his 2008 voters want or what Obama promised in his 2008 campaign.
I wonder who Obama thinks is going to vote for him?
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David_H:
QUOTING DAVID H: "Since you claim Obama has no alternative but to look bad, why doesn't he stand up like a man, stand for his principles (alleged principles) and let the chips fall where they may? I'll tell you why, because he is not being blackmailed at all, he is a willing and complicit part of the corporate agenda."
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There ya' go. Just as plain as day. Well spoken, David.
Anybody who thinks Obama--or any president--is a wimp is wrong. It takes balls the size of oranges, exquisitely aggressive strategy, endurance of 100 marathon runners, and a will to succeed that beats out all other presidential candidates.
With the backing of his 2008 voters, he could have accomplished so much, and at least tried to institute other promises.
But, no. He took the power we gave him when we elected him (handing him a Democratic-majority congress, too), and used it to ass kiss the GOPers and neocons, and throw his 2008 voters under the bus.
He didn't do this because he was weak. He did it because it was always his plan and reflects his values and goals.
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PoliticalAmazon:
I do agree, I voted for Obama and I must say he has done some good things, but he hasn't pushed and backed what he has done. He talks of the republicans blocking things and how he can't do anything, more than talking about the things he has done and being proud of those things. The ideal thing is bi-partisanship, however if the other side doesn't bring anything worth supporting to the table and tries to block what you want, you can't give in and add their dumb ideas and also take away from what you propose to make a deal. I admit I don't know how government works or even a lot of knowledge of negotiation, but I do know that when you take out the great points you want and accept everything the other side wants you're getting screwed. I will say I'm still glad I voted for Obama and if no one else comes up from the democrats I will vote for him again, I still Hope for the change he spoke of, just wish he'd be more agressive
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TDK729:
What a rational statement. Thank you!
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PIANORAMA:
Thanks. I for one don't find it disrespectful to disagree with or criticize or leaders, it is how that it is done that can cross a line. Constructive criticism is how we learn. As people we must know and admit we made a mistake and have that constructive criticism to learn from it and not make it again. Sadly that seems to be lost in politics. Most of them can't even admit their mistake and usually end up doubling down on it. The way I was raised is if you make a mistake, say something, or do something wrong, first check if it was wrong, second if it was indeed wrong admit to it, then apologize. Plain and simple! To admit you're wrong or to apologize does not show weakness, it shows you care that the actions you take are not just your own, they don't just affect you but other people as well.
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I am still concerned that the repubs have even made Bernie Sanders become a deficit parrot. The problem isn't deficit its job loss and freaking war. Now I know Bernie has talked about these things as well, but the repubs have not passed a single jobs bill and have no intention of doing so. They want to see this country go down so their corporate puppet masters can buy everything up. I am sick of finding out that a publicly built facility, or program is run by some f-ing corporation. Foodstamps and unemployment should not be run by Citigroup or Wells Fargoe. wtf! Bernie can lecture all he wants, he reminds me of a one man greek chorus. talk about crying in the wilderness.
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percipi224:
But, you know, at least he's saying things that others don't seem to say, and here he's making pretty much the same point you are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrafADtsKEc&feature=related
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SpareChangeHope:
How So???
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SpareChangeHope:
I would say sir that you are out of touch.
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SpareChangeHope:
Not getting enough attention at home?
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nice job killer...
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Bernie Sanders the people's Senator "give 'em hell " Bernie is the only leader with any integrity or balls
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figgdimension:
There are a few others...
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So Many of you are calling for OBama to do things he just doesn't have the power to do. Even you progressives have drank the koolaid the Republican master race has given you. The executive office doesn't have the power that you think it does, you need to be going after your representatives and senators. The house and senate are where law is made ... hence the legislative branch. However even that could be a bit iffy in that between the Patriot act, Tort reform, and putting in a ton of tea party canidates, I doubt the people have the power to do a damned thing about it.
What is truly sad about all this mess is that the majority of the people are progressive but just can't be bothered to pick their butts up off the sofa to go vote. Which won't be much of a problem soon given that it will soon be damned hard to vote in many states and most of us progressives are too lazy to bother to jump the neccessary hoops. Frankly it may be too late to do anything taking back the rights that the GOP has been working so assidiously to steal for the past 30 years. The have been mightily successul.
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wynnmeg61:
Most people don't know that our country is not GOVERNED from Washington, D.C. It is ADMINISTERED from Washington, D.C. Our country is GOVERNED from New York and London, research the RIIA, The Bildergerg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations, etc. and above all, listen to Adrian Salbucci . . .
http://bilderberg2011.com/bilderberg-group/bilderberg-2011-plans-for-more-econom...
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IT'S A GOOD THING THAT THIS ENTIRE THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POLITICS OF THE USA. GOD HELP US.
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ColeRayne:
Go take your pills dear.
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I had the pleasure of living in Burlington VT. while Bernie was mayor....He would come out to the "Peoples"Park to simply talk with people. This guy is genuine when it comes to a, conscience of the less fortunate ,as his statement would suggest. He would certainly fight against the poverty that is destroying this country. Imagine a Bernie Sanders , Dennis Kucinich White house.... appointing Ron Paul to head up a , End the FED committee! :):) lol
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nikonwilly:
It seems so obvious to me watching him speak on these issues that he is absolutely committed to the well-being of his constituents. I wish there were many more people in government like him.
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YOu apathetic verbalobotomizing slobknozzlezombs better be doing your homework. A president can't be expected to turn a depression around in 4 years. Especially when political parties who are supposedly "of the people" are playing politics like its a game. If America recovers from this recess/depress it has to be the people who actually step up and be the change people are after. Don't wait for anyone to save the day, make your dreams happen by daring to be deserved by them. Ask not what your cuntry can do for you but what you can do for your cuntry. Do you see where your input is needed to better the world? Then DO IT! Go for that dream job but do the research, look at the numbers and propose the results. Enough complaining, Obama has to do everything for Gen X.
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ColeRayne:
Yeah, but Obama has made our depression WORSE in less than two years.
He cannot have his endless megalomaniacal vanity wars and still fund real job programs that will make a sustainable decrease in our jobless numbers. He cannot continue to get our children slaughtered and maimed in the Middle East and expect us to have two pennies to rub together when his butchers' bill comes do.
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ColeRayne:
Hi ColeRayne--Your commentary is really interesting. You are absolutely right that a president cant turn a recession around in four years, BUT we know what caused our massive deficits. Two wars that wasn't paid for, TAX CUTS for Mr. Bush's friends, Wall street bookies, etc.--now, the people aren't expecting Obama to fix this nightmare overnight, what we do expect him to do is the opposite of what we all know got us into this mess. He extended the Tax cuts, we should be out of Iraq, we should be making a more hastier plan to leave Afghanistan, we need to put Wall Street and its' speculators on punishment, we need to be raising that debt ceiling and putting a comprehensive stimulus package together that focuses on infrastructure and jobs. That is what we know should be done. ColeRayne, you say make your dreams happen, really, are you living in the country? There are no jobs, if there are, they are low-paying, no benefits, no retirement, not even worth the effort, Republicans trying to take away basic minimum wage, women's health rights, voter rights, and the list goes on---so you better believe folks are expecting someone to come and save the day. It might not be Obama, but someone better be on the way. Americans DESERVE that! Get on your deem.
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PoliticalAmazon:
You say:
"Yeah, but Obama has made our depression WORSE in less than two years."And your opinion is the exact oposite of that of every single economist.
Fact is, without the stimulus that Obama did the economy would be a HELL of a lot worse than it is now.
If McCain was president instead, we would be in the 2nd Great Depression.
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UtopianSky:
I believe you're right about that, Utopian Sky!
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UtopianSky:
We're IN a depression.
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The more I see of Mr Sanders, the more I like him.
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chew_chew:
Same here chew_chew... =)
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"A cruel and unprecedented attack on the most vulnerable people in this country" was already orchestrated by Obama himself when he appointed his bullshit "deficit reduction committee". If he ever intended to stand up for working people he would have done it long ago. Bernie is a nice guy. I love the guy.
We need to do more than sign his petition (but please sign it) we need to get out in the streets and demand the taxation of the top 2% (or even the top 1/10th of a percent) be increased in order to save our basic social (some call it a safety net) health and well being.
Vermont is clearly an enlightened state as they have managed to create a single payer health care system. Let us listen to them and act according to their example.
Power To The People!!!
P.S. Sign the damn petition.
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SpareChangeHope:
what's the matter - can't stand it that someone is boisterously telling the truth about the GOP attack on the American middle class?
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If ever there was a time for a 3rd party to field a candidate, this is it. Run, Bernie, RUN!!!
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kayopunk:
We don't need him to run as a third party to make a huge difference. We can simply write in his name.
How old is he? He could go any time. If we are going to tell him what we think of his loyalty to the American people and his willigness to do the right thing when others weren't, now is the freaking time.
Not only would it be much more of a powerful eulogy than anything we could do or say after he passes, but it would give him the concrete recognition he deserves NOW, while he can appreciate it.
It would also put the fear of the voters back in to the politicians who we work our asses off to elect just to have them turn around and stab us in the back.
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kayopunk:
DO you remember the 2000 election, where a number of people on the left voted for Ralph Nader instead of Al Gore, and as a result we got eight years of GW Bush?
We do NOT want more than one candidate on the left.
All that does is split the leftist vote, so the right wing wins.
What we need is a bunch of independents on the right- like Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich to run as Independents against Mit Romney.
That will guarantee a Democratic victory.
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PoliticalAmazon:
And you could simply write in the name "Micky Mouse" too, it would have the exact same result.
Nothing- since you would have voted for the Republican candidate anyway.
It would have a disastrous result of a Liberal in a swing state were to do that, where every vote counts.
And THAT is why you are encouraging people to do so.
Again- you could not be a more obvious plant by the Republican party if you changed your avatar to a red white and blue elephant.
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UtopianSky:
So on the one hand Ralph Nader is the reason Gore lost, and on the other it is because the Supreme Court decided who would be President and not the people. Which is it? The Nader argument is asinine.
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UtopianSky:
We should be encouraging people to vote for the candidate THEY think is best candidate available. REGARDLESS of the FEAR of whether or not someone else will win. Why would I vote for someone that I do not think is suited to be President when there is someone running who I think is more suited?
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hammywill:
Do you realize that in the real world, many factors contribute to an outcome, not just a single chain of events?
Well guess what- it's on BOTH hands.
If the votes for Nader had gone to Gore, the gap between Bush and Gore would have been great enough that the loss of Florida would not have mattered; there were a few swing states that were THAT close.
Even WITHIN Florida, if the votes for Nader had gone to Bush, the gap between Bush and Gore would have been wide enough that a recount never would have went to court.
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hammywill:
If the world were made of rainbows and lollipops, that would be a great idea.
It's not.
Your "Lesser of Three Evils" argument does not work with me.
The "Lesser of Two Evils" is what this country has. - 11 months ago
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UtopianSky:
Then Gore should have got more people to vote for him. The people who voted for Nader felt he was the best candidate. I voted for Nader in that election, and even knowing what I know now, I would STILL vote have voted for Nader.
- 11 months ago
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UtopianSky:
No it isn't. That is the nation you CHOOSE to have.
- 11 months ago
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meesh76,I too approve of your message.You said it all.
- 11 months ago
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meesh76
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President Obama knows exactly what needs to be done. He needs to do what the people elected him to do. We need him to work. For democratic causes!! We had a full Democratic house, senate, and then president for two years, and we still managed to further screw things up by caving in and supporting the republican agenda. President Obama needs to stop making nice, and take his ball and go home(as they say). Stop playing their game Mr. President!! Do what you were elected to do. Give the people the change we can believe in, because we believed in you. We got your back, you need to have ours. I'm meesh76 and I approve this message...
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meesh76:
I am KB723, and I approve of your message... =)
- 11 months ago
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meesh76:
I am Zoomy1, and I approve this message!
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meesh76:
No, please, quit wasting your time begging Obama to do what he promised to do during the 2008 campaign! You will just be setting yourself up to be his patsy again in 2012, because he is going to make more promises that he won't fulfill once he is elected.
If you want this horseshit to stop, then we have to take a stand about the most flagrant hoseshit we've ever, as Democrats, had in the Oval Office: Barack Obama.
Who would you rather be president: Obama or Bernie Sanders? Vote for the person you think will make the best president, not the one you think will win.
Until we can take a united stand against the type of GOP-ass-kissing we have received from Obama and the Dems in Congress, we will continue to get it---and it will be the fault of anyone who continues to vote for an GOP-ass-kissing Democrat.
- 11 months ago
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PoliticalAmazon:
PoliticalAmazon, don't get me twisted. I am not just a vote for the Democrat Democrat!! I actually would love to see a democrat like Dennis Kucinich. I believe that I vote on the issues that affects us all. I don't care about the bullcrap issues, like what church politicians go to. I am first, informed as a voter. In my own state election, I voted for Charlie Crist, he was the Republican turned Independent, because his own party turned against him for doing the right thing for the right reasons, the Florida people!! So to you I say, I voted for Barack Obama because in 2008 he was the BEST person for the job..NO OTHER REASON!! My 2012 vote will be based on the same criteria. And to finish, I don't know Obama, nor do I think he is God, Superman, or any of the other messiah like characters he is often portrayed as. He is a politician, and like all politicians, we have to hold them accountable. Obama will be held accountable to me in 2012. Believe that.
- 11 months ago
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KB723:
kb723, I approve that you approve my message!!
- 11 months ago
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meesh76
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zoomy1:
Zoomy1, I also approve that you approve my message.!
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meesh76:
You certainly have always sounded like a sensible Democrat, and I can see you voted for him for the same reason I did. Unfortunately, there was not a lot of political history for him, otherwise we could have factored that into our equation.
I am just so worried that Democrats will be suckered in by Obama again, because when he turns on the charm, he can be very convincing. However, I don't think we can take another 4 years of his presidency.
The longer Democrats take to make the decision whether they will vote for Obama or not, the less time they will have to look at alternatives. Having watched political cycles for decades, it is this type of situation where apathetic voters are born (the ones that just don't bother to vote anymore) or voters just, by default, vote for the party because of the scare tactics the DNC uses.
I'm not saying you are any of those, and I never thought you were. These are my own fears, and those fears are for the future of our country.
Good night, and sleep well. I have to be in court at 8:30 tomorrow, and ready to rock and roll.
- 11 months ago
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PoliticalAmazon:
I definitely hear you. And, yes, I am sick of default candidates. We need real leadership. And I don't know if Obama, can truly lead on a progressive agenda. I'm sick and tired of this centrist bullshit. Republican leadership carries out republican ideas and agendas, Dems need the same. Thank's PoliticalAmazon for letting me vent.
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PoliticalAmazon:
Gosh dear what do you approve 4 years of Bachmann. That aught to light up the city streets..... when you all loose the last few rights the Republicans have left you.
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meesh76:
I guess what it comes down to for me is that even if NOTHING we want actually got voted into law it wouldn't bother me so much if Obama had a) done what he promised to do when he was campaigning; b) told the republiwon'ts it didn't matter if they did what he wanted, he was still going to side with the people; c) vetoed the crap they put on his desk. I understand what some of the posters are saying about how little power he actually has, but I really don't see that as being true since he really does have the power to veto what he doesn't agree with. And if he's being blackmailed then he needs to get info on those who are blackmailing him and shove their misdeeds right back up their asses. If Truman, and Johnson could do it so can this yokel!
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PoliticalAmazon:
Who controls the House? As long as Democrats don't control the Senate and the House it really doesn't matter......People need to vote in all elections not just in Presidential years......I don't care if GOD himself is president...nothing will get done!! Damn republican
idiots! - 11 months ago
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meesh76:
Vent away! You look especially fetching when you vent! =)
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Sorry, those DNC scare tactics don't work on me anymore because I've seen that the Democratic Party candidate can be as big of an asshole as the GOP candidate, once they are elected.
Obama gutted the DNC's fear tactic of "Don't vote for the big boogeyman GOP candidate because Al Quaida will steal your kids yadda yadda yadda" when he embraced so many of the most vile Bush/Cheney policies.
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CursingOldGoat:
Wise up, OldGoat. It didn't matter when we handed Obama a Senate and House majority when he was elected president. Some of his most vile compromises were OFFERED to the GOP before they even asked (like promising bigPharma there would be no negotiations by government for lower medication costs, which Obama had said in his 2008 campaign would pay for a big chunk of the HCR he promised us then).
Obama wasted the majority we worked our asses off to GIVE HIM by cloyingly trying to become BFFs with the GOP. The GOP, properly downhearted and in the dumps because they got their asses kicked, were quickly convinced by Obama that the GOP was, indeed, STILL IN CHARGE OF CONGRESS. And the GOP has acted like it ever since, with no complaint from Obama.
I would not lift one finger to get a Dem majority Congress now--not with Obama in office. Better to rest up and think of better strategies to get a candidate for the presidency who will full his promises, and not sleep with the neocons 24/7.
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CursingOldGoat:
Oh, I forgot.
Here's your sign.
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