Community | July 02, 2011 | 137 comments

An Open Letter to Al Gore

Dear Mr. Gore,

I am writing you on behalf of a large portion of the present Current community, and nearly all of the old. I am sure you understand what I mean by old and new.

When I began watching Current TV, I was about fifteen years old or so. Beforehand, I could not bear the sight of news, believing the topic of politics, partisanship, and pollution to be too large of issues for me to grasp just yet. But I noticed something different with Current. It appealed to a younger generation--a generation not often spoken to with regards to world events, and the issues abroad. Current exposed me to the world of topics I didn't know existed, and it did it in a very efficient, honest, and respectful way to my youthful generation. This reputation led to Current being attractive for a far wider ranged audience than first anticipated. Looking back, I now see Current being largely responsible for propelling me to the education and career I now pursue--investigative journalism, to the attitude I possess--optimism and hope, and the actions I take--progress, activism, and pursuing truth. But what happened to this Current that was such a foundational keystone to my character? What happened to your original dream?

The exact hope that inspired me from the old Current has all but evaporated, as I have little reason to believe Current will ever leap forward by reverting back to the way it was--something that wasn't broke in the first place. Given the arrival of Keith Olbermann, I believe you're trying to hold on to what little intent you had with Current, but not without backing yourself into a corner and submitting permanently to traditional television programming. I believe it is only fortunate that Vanguard is eye-catching enough to please MTV's Mark Rosenthal--a big root of the weed; otherwise, it too--albeit highly informative--would also be on the chopping block, replaced by another irrelevant show that ultimately powers the ignorance machine that is mainstream media. I suppose on this respect that I personally believe information should be free--or at least as free as possible. I find it greatly aggravating and lacking integrity to be baited with knowledge at a cost. "Sorry, you can't watch this documentary online. You must be baited along through our ads, and hassled by the process of having a television in the first place." I know this is the idealist in me; and I understand that you cannot run a television channel for nothing. But truly, were there no other alternatives?

The fact that Olbermann has come to Current doesn't make up for the 175 degree reversal brought on by Mark Rosenthal, the last 5 degrees of novel content left being the democratic news feed on Current.com, and Vanguard. The intellectual news, the VC-Squared podcasts, the democracy--All gone. All replaced with poor logos, ads, and dumbed down entertainment nonsense appealing to an ill-informed audience. I, for one, do not want a channel dedicated for news "analysis" and commentary; there are plenty of those. I want raw footage and reporting, and I want democratic news. Everything Olbermann is against, according to what I've just read from his Rolling Stone interview--that exact corruption--that corporate mentality and pursuit of profit over product has hijacked Current, his new employer. You had an amazing vision for this channel and website. Though, upon this day, little of your vision still remains, which lead us to question what went wrong: our expectations, or your integrity. If the other model was a financial failure, then either management failed, or capitalism is indeed flawed--for the product was perfect. Of all the programs deployed, targeting the youth to vote in elections and become aware of the world, Current had one of the best opportunities to promote such activism. The momentum just needed a little time to build. Current was certainly ahead of its time; and by that, I mean it takes time for new things to appeal to a crowd used to seeing the same old speal on television--a crowd used to simple stagnation. What is new is often discarded; but over time, it is gradually accepted. Progress is inevitable; but only if progress is actively pursued. The original Current strived for innovation, progress being its hallmark. This "new" Current has anything but new to offer, however.

And the website certainly did progress, for a period. The democratic news aggregator, the free TV content, and of course the platform for VC-Squared producers--all breakthroughs. Unfortunately now, it is on a path of regression. It is on a path that leads to one of those websites which bleed second-hand content, ads, and hollow slogans. It would be like visiting a website advertised on the back of a cereal box: even children know how lame those sites are, largely just being indoctrination pits with content so worthless, it cannot take up the ink and space on the back of a cereal box. Where did the enormous audience of HuffingtonPost users turn when Arianna sold them out? Many came to Current because they were being told by Current's loyal members that this was the place to be to have intellectual discussions from all angles, to see the world without the tinted, pre-interpreted, and analytical lens of an overarching narrative deployed by some organization; and finally where an institution was in place to platform the "average joe's" voice to an audience of many--indifferent to fame or finances. These loyal members raised their voices and said, "Where HuffPost lacked integrity, Current does not. Come on over!" Current's primary tool, its television station, certainly does not provide this platform or clear lens anymore; so what should make us believe the secondary content considered not worthy of being on the back of a cereal box will remain--our whispering voices? You didn't compromise with us, you're turning backward those last five degrees; and you certainly didn't ask for our input on these matters. Needless to say, when HuffPost users finally did come over, I felt similar to when I might tell my roommate that there is some good spaghetti sauce left-over in the fridge, but when he eventually tries it--it has mold all over it. I say, "I'm sorry, it used to be great!"

If you are genuine about changing the world, about offsetting the ideological rhetoric you so despise, as indicative of your own article on Rolling Stone (Referring to Climate of Denial), then we as your original audience ask that you attempt to retrieve the treasure that was lost:


- Bring back Viewer-Created Content (V-C-Squared) pods.

- Bring back real, transparent news and interviews, as once hosted by Connor Knighton.

- Allow all aired content to be streamed on Current.com.

- Bring back Democracy to television.

- Drop Rosenthal's perspective

- Retrieve Current's integrity.


Surrounding the truly progressive community are numerous false-hopes and sell-outs, supposedly acting as another voice or benefit for the movement--but then ultimately ending up doing more damage in pursuit of personal gain. The progressive movement has been, and is being scammed so many times. It is thus very difficult to earn such an audience's trust these days when you have companies like BP advertising in commercials with overtones suggesting they're "there for the community and responsible," and people such as Fred Karger--who is supposedly sincere in his quest to show Republicans have no quirms with homosexuals. We don't want to be exploited. But we certainly do not want to be babied with bias either (unless you consider the belief in progress to be bias). We ask only for truth, along with which comes integrity. Do you have these qualities, Mr. Gore?

On behalf of a large portion of active and perhaps delusionally loyal Current community members, I request positive action--if that only means an apologetic response to your devout audience and fellow dreamers.

Peacefully Sincere,
-Jake
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137 comments // An Open Letter to Al Gore

  • CarlosBobthe3rd
  • Dagum
    • +1
      Dagum  
    • I must say that much of what made current great is the the community-members. Maybe much of what we posted wasn't technically "news". But I"'ve learned much from the things posted here and have developed all sorts of weird views based off of posts from progressives, greens, libertarians, to the point where my views no longer fit into any political label.

      It's disheartening to see that citizen journalism aspect kicked to the back burner but that's been the trend since I first started here a few years back. I guess they have to do whatever it takes to stay financially solvent.

    • 11 months ago
  • Dagum
    • +1
      Dagum  
    • If I remember correctly, the station lost money every year since its inception. I believe current signed Keith Olbermann for upwards in the amount of 10 million a year.

      They have planted their flag firmly with keith, so of course they are going to restructure the website with Keith as the central plank, even if everything else gets thrown aside.

      Keith is a risky gambit, but Current's last chance. If Keith sink's current's ship will sink with him.

    • 11 months ago
  • SamuraiDave
    • +2
      SamuraiDave  
    • the original idea of Current was citizen journalism - to give voice to the people and present news from the bottom up. Rough and raw, it had heart. the problem was there was never enough courage to go with that and too much fear of being seen as Youtube that eventually it was all scrapped for slick professionally looking hollow programming. Also Current had gone from being completely interactive to passive to almost voiceless. I don't recognize this place anymore

    • 11 months ago
  • jackshin
    • 0
      jackshin  
    • judging from the comments, I am beginning to understand the differences, a social networking channel with a slight political bent whose content is fueld by the web-site viewers, or a political activitist channel not unlike mother jones or the nation but on TV, and whos content is fueld by the editors of current. I think they can co-exist.

      Although it can safely be said that viewers don't want Current to turn into pop culture and become a perz hilton site.(aka: Huffingtonpost.) God forbid a merge between, Huffington, AOL, and Current, what a sad day that would be.

      I still think Al and Current should be given a chance because I really don't think they have sold out yet. But of course I say this because I just got here.

    • 11 months ago
  • ivxx
    • +1
      ivxx  
    • This is the third format change I can recall... And that more than anything else drives away many top contributing community member EVERY TIME they do it. Isn't the definition of insanity repeating the same action and expecting a different result?

    • 11 months ago
  • ColeRayne
  • thedirtman
  • squarethecircle
  • jackshin
    • +1
      jackshin  
    • 1st. Newcomers don't like to be beaten over the head with "they don't know what’s good for them talk."

      2nd. Many of the old ways sound great, its in the air, I wouldn't hold my breath, but who knows, it certainly can't happen without you.

      3rd. I only know these users by their post, but I am not as thoughtful funny as Kbuffin, or Kenny, as insightful as Arch, and as dedicated to a cause as Janforgore. Humor escapes me when it comes to posting, I tend to take a passionate tone. But like arch said how the editors didn't pick up on his posts, it also pains me to see that Janforgore's article on clean water act got 5 posts. It pains me to see that a majority of pultizer prize winning vanguard blogs have less than 3 and some 0 posts. Someone said it should be organized better, that’s not changing a thing. Some one said there was 1000 hits, okay when. As far as I can tell there is about 5 to 10 people that post on current everyday, that's it.

      I am also guilty, I tend to only reply to those things that are sensational. Frankly I don't know enough and I just don't have enough time. So maybe there is change, but for who 5 to 10 people. You can't be a community with 10 people, and you can hardly expect the message to get out.

      Support other cites, that's fine, but consider this, everyone here knows what it means to root for the underdog, Al Gore is an underdog and so is Currenttv.

      Here is a quote from Marly and Me that I think it says it all..."I don't know if I am better than the other guys, but I always manage to amaze myself. 10 years ago I was a pot head on couch playing games, but I got into college, graduated with honors. Jen is woman way out of my league, but I am married to her now." Current should never have gone on air, providing stylized free content that you could already get on utube for free. But they did and they have been on for 5 years. Current could never afford someone with political clout and influence with only 20,000 viewers, but they have k.o.. This kind of transition will be hard on the purist, that’s understandable, but give current a chance to amaze you, don't give up on the underdog.

      Personally, I know I will leave and come back for stretches of a time, I am just glad they have KO here everyday, and a site that basically agrees with his outlook. And I am comforted knowing that I can come back here when I want too and when I need too.

    • 11 months ago
  • lordsbassman
    • +2
      lordsbassman  
    • We are not crying out to say we want the old current. We are just asking to be heard again. We just need more segments and shows. We need stories added and PODs to air again. We can keep evolving but don't cut us out!

    • 11 months ago
  • Misti
  • KB723
  • percipi224
    • +1
      percipi224  
    • thanks jake for the clarity of the problems you see with the changes to current. All except the cut to Al Gore's intergrity, after all this is his baby. The way you liked it is the way he created it along with many of others of like mind. The nature of creativity is change. I for one, found the Bar Karma community input process cumbersome and overwhelming. As much as I was excited by the ideas and being able to submit my own humble efforts, I couldn't keep up. Especially when I realized I would not be able to watch it on the internet. (Cablevision no current) It too many chefs not enough cooks, the more popular a site gets, and someone has to start making decisions.

    • 11 months ago
  • jackshin
  • Adeo83
    • +1
      Adeo83  
    • In general, the writing is okay. The message is great. The whole premise, laudable. But the letter proves why Current had to change.

      The intentions, the message and the suggestions are all reasonable—laudable, even. However, the writing is not professional level. I say this not to criticize Jake, but to educate the dissenters. Some people are meant to be journalists, and some are not.

      I really agree with Jake's sentiments. And I find it highly commendable that he is willing to take initiative. But the fact remains that Jake writes like a junior from a public high school: the quality of the writing is there, just beneath the surface, but it requires polishing by someone more experienced. So do many of the people in the comment sections on this site. If this were the quality of the written material featured on the site, what would be the incentive to choose Current as a media source (or outlet) over MSNBC, FOX or CNN??

    • 11 months ago
  • vkotomski
    • +1
      vkotomski  
    • Great letter! I was able to watch Current for more than 1hr at a time, now I feel like it is impossible... Keith is great, and his show should be the political show for the channel. I miss the pods!!

    • 11 months ago
  • thedirtman
    • +3
      thedirtman  
    • Thanks to Current staff for not moving this page to a place where nobody would see it. Also thanks to sgwhites, duzins and staff for reading these suggestions.

    • 11 months ago
  • ArchDruid
  • thedirtman
  • jackshin
  • jubal
    • +4
      jubal  
    • Current used to be the hottest network and website where everybody had their chance to achieve their fifteen minutes of fame.

    • 11 months ago
  • thedirtman
    • +2
      thedirtman  
    • jubal:

      Good morning jubal. DirectTV wasn't available to me from the start, but I recall a little of that. It would be great if someone did a story about the Current community in the first year. All I see is the 4000+ group.

    • 11 months ago
  • KB723
  • tverdell
  • Vic_Romano
    • +2
      Vic_Romano  
    • I've been waiting twenty years for a better multimedia experience. I sent a letter to Mr. Campbell a while back stating much of the same things. I was wondering why he never developed an interactive website to go with his cable channel. Something about failed IPOs that just make it so hard to break into the corporate media landscape though.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHlzIsM9ICg

    • 11 months ago
  • vkotomski
  • Wyley_Wombat
  • squarethecircle
    • +3
      squarethecircle  
    • Lost the internet for a time due to lack of money. Didn't recognize the place when I got back. I feel like the movie "Sucker Punched". Take care and good luck ArchDruid.

    • 11 months ago
  • ArchDruid
  • squarethecircle
  • KB723
  • wynnmeg61
    • -1
      wynnmeg61  
    • To all of you older members of this marvelous forum I would like to say how sorry I am that you seem to be more interested in maintaining a small intimate group than growing into a more expansive coalition.

      I am a relative newcomer to Current who joined this community because of Olbermann, frankly I only discovered the existence of Current because of KO. I know that Current expected some growth when they brought on Keith, however, I don't think they were in anyway prepared for the explosion of growth they are now experiencing. Growth is painful in all stages of our lives, but we should celebrate that growth rather than condemn it.

      Being new to your forum I can tell you that I watched it getting more and more unweildy each day. I celebrate the fact that Current is working hard to make this site more cohesive. There are millions out there like myself; Liberals stuck in small pockets throughout the Red states. We will never be allowed access to Current TV. The Conservatives ruling our parts of this country will never tolerate the unwashed masses being given access to accurate timely information, they mean to exploit those who only have access to their propaganda. They are, in fact, quite masterful in making the working class feel that they are being abused.

      I would have hoped that you would all celebrate swelling your numbers with us new folks, the larger your coalition the greater your ability to affect national policy, however you have determined rather to reject us instead. Score another for the GOP and they didn't have to do anything at all. This is the biggestest weakness in the Liberal/Progressive movement, the tent is supposed to be big enough for all of us. In reality the tent is not big enough for all of us. Given that it seems more important to shout from the mountain tops - mine, mine, mine; than it is to welcome others who you could find common ground with to actually progress.

      I am truly sorry you don't want us to join you. I hope that you realize that limiting yourselves to a small intimate coalition does not serve the ends that you say you wish for, but rather serve the ends of the Conservatives.

    • 11 months ago
  • Misti
  • wynnmeg61
  • Misti
  • ArchDruid
  • wynnmeg61
    • 0
      wynnmeg61  
    • Misti:

      Yes Misti is many ways. I was so excited when I found this forum. Yes, I too was welcomed when coming here. However, the old format could just not possibly accomodate the influx of such a large number of us making this discovery at the same time. They have to make changes. These changes had seemed good to me -- making it possible for me to navigate and access so much more information and interact with so many more of the established folks here.

      Unfortunately, so many of those who were at first so welcoming are the same ones who are now so very upset. Progessives have got to stand together and this site is a great place to do so. Even is these changes hurt a bit.

    • 11 months ago
  • wynnmeg61
    • +2
      wynnmeg61  
    • ArchDruid:

      I would humbly request that leaving this site is not in the best interest of any of us. I am sorry to see so many of you so upset. I would prefer to see this site grow and grow, a chorus is so much more effective than a quartet.

    • 11 months ago
  • Misti
  • wynnmeg61
    • 0
      wynnmeg61  
    • Misti:

      Absoluelty right misti, I think the changes being made to Current can be a catalyst to activate the masses. The forum is great for communication and will be a wonderfulway to get the Progressive base out on the streets as well............ we have got to get out on the streets and if nothing else at least vote.

    • 11 months ago
  • thedirtman
    • +3
      thedirtman  
    • wynnmeg61:

      "I would like to say how sorry I am that you seem to be more interested in maintaining a small intimate group than growing into a more expansive coalition."

      What gave you that idea?

    • 11 months ago
  • jackshin
    • 0
      jackshin  
    • Misti:

      exactly, purist will go, nothing can be done about that, and when this network goes to far commerical, from when I started, I will go find those purist. Its a fact of life.

    • 11 months ago
  • jackshin
    • 0
      jackshin  
    • wynnmeg61:

      I believe you should post this as a reply to a letter to gore, maybe a second letter to gore, You nailed it this is an issue of growing pains. But I won't want people who new how it worked in the past to go, I just don't want to be beaten over the head about how good it was. That beein said, I like a lof of the ideas the purist have suggested so far.

    • 11 months ago
  • JanforGore
    • +2
      JanforGore  
    • wynnmeg61:

      I personally don't have a problem with "change" coming, but that change should not mean that the best parts of what made the site worth coming to and which actually won it an Emmy cannot be maintained on the TV network. What people here myself included are trying to vocalize, is that even with changes which I don't see anyone attacking here in regards to what you are talking about, Current TV has deemed to push user created content that would actually augment the direction they are going in regarding bringing news we don't see on MSM to those who watch this station entirely from its lineup.

      What made Current tv unique in its inception was bringing in the people who joined and used the venue and tools provided to share THEIR stories as well. We were the producers, directors, news reporters, storymakers. We were on par and I might say even better than the MSM. Now delineating it as the "real news" that can only be delivered by Keith Olbermann, as opposed to the users who now can't possibly have what it takes to do that, is yes, a bit disconcerting to be honest. In the wake of media caricatures who need millions in order to care, those who delivered VC2 and news here for nothing but a chance to be seen and heard used this venue because they cared. I will take that any day.

      However, since the MTV exec who runs it now considers the users to be those who simply should be relegated to group pages and not seen on their TV station because they don't sell and don't make ad dollars, it all changes. Inclusion as you brought out doesn't mean pushing that which made and could augment the site out the door. Now of course, the "tools" to be heard are still here even though it won't be seen on the network. So I will use those tools to the best of my ability to still try to get important information out even though it isn't appreciated by those in the position to do so. But I don't have anything against people coming here and don't belong to any "cliques." here. I just believe in the true democratization of tv Al Gore first brought here that included all of us and I will support that and do what I can to preserve it.

    • 11 months ago
  • lordsbassman
    • +2
      lordsbassman  
    • wynnmeg61:

      I welcome new members and new minds. Current.com & Current_tv was lanched at the same time for a reason. It was a creative open exchange of local and world stories. New people who come here then say that are just here just for KO are really close minded and arrogant to what Current stood for. Current.com has no real voice anymore.

    • 11 months ago
  • wynnmeg61
    • +1
      wynnmeg61  
    • lordsbassman:

      I did not say I only came here because of Olbermann.......... I said I was made aware that this forum even existed because of KO. Some of us are so deeply buried in the red states they don't even allow us the light of day let alone access to information

    • 11 months ago
  • wynnmeg61
  • jackshin
    • 0
      jackshin  
    • lordsbassman:

      i think thats an unfair characteriization, great idea wounderful, how the local influences the world and how the world affects the local, great thats I guess what is being lost to appease the political minded, I mean, no one tuned in for social worker tv, is all i got to say.

    • 11 months ago
  • ivxx
  • artemis6
  • pissedoffinarkansas
    • +6
      pissedoffinarkansas  
    • There used to be a segment on the tv channel where they did little news stories on the top 3 stories on the web site. I actually had one or two of my posts make the cut. That was exciting. I felt like I was contributing something to the site,I felt involved. Now, every time I come to the site it seems we've been pushed farther and farther to the back of the bus. And most of the stories being put on the front page are irrelavant to the news we need to make desicions about our daily lives. Is that not what this site is supposed to be about? It's truly sad:(

    • 11 months ago
  • nikonwilly
  • jackshin
    • 0
      jackshin  
    • pissedoffinarkansas:

      they should keep that around, if they are getting a bigger audience, then that show might just take off. That being said, when they use to have Tech tv, you could call in to half their programs about computers. It just didn;t get enough supporters. And frankly it sounds like a business model now. Develope a basis, and then go commerical.

    • 11 months ago
  • nikonwilly
    • 0
      nikonwilly  
    • As someone new to this site ( couple months) I'm not sure what I missed ?
      I've briefly looked at other sections to the site and found nothing but television style promotion...sorry but I gave up on television years ago...I loved this news section where I can find the truthful slant I'm looking for...I have also enjoyed this comment section where like minded folks, for good reason , congregate.
      What exactly was the earlier version of Currant about and how old is this site ?
      Am I I correct to assume this "news" section is a product created by the readers/members and not a staff of paid writers ?

    • 11 months ago
  • jackshin
    • 0
      jackshin  
    • nikonwilly:

      ·new myself, and that’s what it seems to be...but judging from Arch's comment, if there is enough interest in a topic, which is determined by how many user reply to a user story post, the staff at current elevate the topic to news worth status...I guess

    • 11 months ago
  • Capicuaman
  • LOrion
    • +2
      LOrion  
    • I disagree. Mr. Gore should be able to use his platform to make a difference. It had not been doing that for the vast majority of network TV viewers.
      There are plenty of other venues to see shows on crime and pollution, heck you can even read about them! Time and energy on a national network needs to be spent on combatting the MSM networks lies and warped propaganda.

    • 11 months ago
  • jackshin
  • Incredulous
  • sue4e3
  • ArchDruid
  • SoLeZydeco
    • 0
      SoLeZydeco  
    • ArchDruid:

      I do not know you. I am new here but your post makes me miss what I never will experience. Every forum seems to be changing. $$$$$ clicks /censorship. Enjoy your life. AD. Sorry I will not see your comments. Ba-you. B-happy.

    • 11 months ago
  • thedirtman
    • +3
      thedirtman  
    • ArchDruid:

      When you were posting those stories about the news from Japan I was also posting stories from NHK and getting almost no views. Most of your stories I probably did not see (actually I saw some of those at a later date when they were already old). You probably did not see my posts as well. Stories become lost in the pile. Most people will not scroll through lists of stories or search by tags.

      This demonstrates what I see is the main problem with Current. DISORGANIZATION OF MATERIAL. Current needs an easier format to allow viewing of related posts. Current needs to have a view that shows the relationship between previous posts and new posts.

      Second, an international perspective would have made Current more interesting for people closer to and more directly affected by the Fukushima disaster. An international perspective would have encouraged Japanese people to post and comment.

      I encourage you to stay on AD.

    • 11 months ago
  • ArchDruid
  • jackshin
    • 0
      jackshin  
    • thedirtman:

      I agree, sometimes its hard to know if you where replied to, they should have it least tell you when you've been replied too. As far as I can tell only the people who post the stories know when they have a new post.

    • 11 months ago
  • jackshin
    • 0
      jackshin  
    • ArchDruid:

      to be honest, some has to get paid eventually to do that work, otherwise its slave labor, expecting the youth to carry the load. I am not a writer, but that is why Arianne is getting sued. The contributer network wasn't getting paid for their value. And why professional writers are laughing it up, because they are losing their jobs to the contributer network. I am not disagreeing with out right, but good research isn't free in this world.

    • 11 months ago
  • thedirtman
    • +1
      thedirtman  
    • jackshin:

      There is a way to receive an email when you receive a reply. There is a pulldown menu in the top right corner with your account name. Click on "edit settings". There are some boxes to check.

      It took me six months to find the right settings. These instructions are only good if there have been no changes of late. Good luck.

    • 11 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +1
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • timelord999:

      "Good night, good night! Parting is such sweet sorrow,
      That I shall say good night till it be morrow."
      The Bard of Avon

      Leave them be to say their goodbyes among friends.

      No one is twisting your eyes to read their posts, are they?

    • 11 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +1
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • ArchDruid:

      Perchance in another lifetime or another dimension we shall meet via this medium of internet ink and paper.

      If not, may your journey through this existence be a pleasurable one.

      And are you certain that you really want to leave all these snide, insipid and inane remarks behind?

      LMAO!

      Cherro!

    • 11 months ago
  • cherry5000
  • artemis6
  • jam60jam
  • maxjunk
    • +2
      maxjunk  
    • I've only returned to current two times in the last month. And every time, I am more and disappointed on every visit. I don't even watch the tv station anymore. The staff has fucked this site up beyond recognition. You stole the only good news source left on tv.

    • 11 months ago
  • Buddha2112
    • +4
      Buddha2112  
    • Notice: this is the #1 story, yet, no mod comments, not even an inkling they care or are listening...

      Anyway, I doubt Gore even watches this site... If they changes take place, awesome, if not, see ya later!

    • 11 months ago
  • ArchDruid
  • jackshin
  • Incredulous
    • +5
      Incredulous  
    • Standing Ovation Jake...many times over!

      In comment, I can only say, I think there is a definite difference of opinion in what and how progress is being defined....but then there always has been that difference, and out of that difference came the birth of democracy.

    • 11 months ago
  • timetide
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      timetide  
    • A while ago I stoped watching the TV station for one reason, it no longer related nor appeled to me. The shows became more and more of the fluff that drove me from regular TV channels like CBS and MTV. Instead of listioning to the community it went the other direction, a direction that I'm willing to bet is going to lead to its down fall. there has to be a different option than a choice between conforming and destroying currents future or going broke.

    • 11 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +2
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • October 25th, 1958. A prophetic warning has now come true.

      Profit before content in the way we are fed the news on a commercial-driven, biased propaganda plate.

      Good night and good luck Current TV.

    • 11 months ago
  • kvb1
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      kvb1  
    • Jake, you are on the money with this. The Channel and the website do not have to be the same thing, nor do they have to have the same content and format. There are 168 hours in a week that is available for programing. Not everything has to happen between 8PM and 11PM EST. Nor is it necessary to have the same programming during those hours. You can drive the ad dollars with Keith, build on informational in depth reporting with Vanguard, and use that money to make other news and entertainment programming. That is what CBS did in the late 1960's and early 1970's that made it the "tiffany" network. You have to be cutting edge if you want to grow your audience and you have to be traditional in order to keep them. Everyone wants things to stay the same and familiar once they are used to them, just like you and the rest of the older Current crowd.

      But it seems that we have lost the innovation and cutting edge mentality that Current started with. It is going too far down the road that MSN, Cable and Broadcast TV are on. Ultimately this will be bad for Current, as it will get lost in the 500 channels of "cable" stations, not carving out a niche other than KO, who I thoroughly enjoy and am glad is back on the air.

      The website should be an extension of the channel. It should be a place that expands what happens on the channel, as there is really no time constraints, and no other limits as to how far information and content can go. Why can't the website be like it was, adding in KO's page? Why can't it be the You Tube of more serious artists? Why can't it be the place where the people can post raw news as it is happening, like Twitter only more in depth than 140 characters? Why can't it be a place like Democracy for America, where like minded people and organize and set meet-ups? Why can't it be more like US Uncut, where we can create community protests and let the nation know what we are doing and spread those protests into national protests?

      Why did this site have to become so limiting? I came here from HuffPo because of the corporate changes when Arianna sold out. Now I am not sure where I will turn to get a real news feed, a real news aggregator, so that I can investigate the truth for myself.

      Knowledge is power, and collective knowledge limits control by the few from the many. OPEN THE GATES and let us have our site back.

    • 11 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +2
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • kvb1:

      Once upon a time there was public TV and radio stations that catered to the people's interests.

      Gone.

      When cable TV first "arrived", they had to provide a studio, equipment and time alotted for ANYONE who wished could create their very own TV program for the public good. Remember them?

      Gone.

      Once there was "underground" radio stations that would broadcast, against the FCC's bylaws, their version of a "Radio Free America". But those "airwaves" have been taken hostage and you will be arrested if you tried that today.

      All gone.

    • 11 months ago
  • jackshin
    • +1
      jackshin  
    • kvb1:

      "You have to be cutting edge if you want to grow your audience and you have to be traditional in order to keep them."
      I was preparing myself to disagree with you, even saying to you, I don't support your idea, but I like how you you support your main argument.

      But yeah I agree "WHY NOT", they have plenty of models, where the tv would in fact support the website, more than the other way around. But can they find the sponsors to do that, I guess I really don't know if the need it.

    • 11 months ago
  • wolfess
    • 0
      wolfess  
    • kvb1:

      I came here from HuffPo because of the corporate changes when Arianna sold out.

      I came here because KO was coming here; I also came here because HuffPo got to be too mainstream -- half of my comments never made it into print, and while there were occasions when I called a Nixon a Cheney, for the most part I was creative in the way I did it and they STILL got deleted. I've noticed the same thing here in the last few weeks -- very different from when I first came over here (and I really haven't been here that long).

      To close, I will tell you a) there is a new news website started by Ziggy Strange and KB723
      http://nonlinearresonance.com/currents/index.php that has all the best parts of this website without all the negatives; b) huffpo wouldn't let me use my avatar motto: Down with Republiwon'ts, but Main Street Journal hasn't even remarked on it; c) the fact that my motto got 'disapproved' shows how far right huffpo is and that scares me.

    • 11 months ago
  • artemis6
  • wolfess
  • Frosty46
    • +3
      Frosty46  
    • I read the letter and understand the wish for the old days however, this is a business situation. Running Current takes money, lots of money. I am sure all who love Current buy from it's sponsors and tries to let them know we love them. I find Keith Olbermann to be entertaining and intelligent. I've followed him for many years and love that he has aligned with Current. We Liberals have few voices on the national stage and Keith is one of power!

      I'd like to see a program that brings the ideas of viewers forward on the problem of what to do to correct our dysfunctional governance. There could be productions based on contributors ideas------------

    • 11 months ago
  • Jake_Leonard
    • +1
      Jake_Leonard  
    • Frosty46:

      I understand it's more of a financial situation than anything else--especially from what I read on the switch in '09. Still, I don't think it hurts to let them know that their audience is in discontent.

    • 11 months ago
  • hopingforlight
    • +6
      hopingforlight  
    • Jake I want to thank you so much!!! I completely know where you are coming from man. Being a teenager finding Current was amazing. I told everyone of my friends so they could join in as well. Sadly I don't even remember the last time I wanted to tell people about it. I too have seen the great decline on Current. I remember watching it and being inspired to want to change the world. I loved the ViewerCreatedContent, to see people my age was awesome! Slowly it all just changed and I stopped watching and only visited the site more out of habit, once and a while. I agree with all of the points that need to change to make Current back to the great model it was. Sadly I doubt it will change but that's what being an idealist is about right? To always keep hoping no matter what. The realist in me at least thinks maybe another project my get it right.
      Once again thanks for so succinctly and articulately stating your feelings and the facts.

    • 11 months ago
  • timetide
  • Emucratic
  • jackshin
  • Simone_Castillo
  • jackshin
  • tverdell
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  • artemis6
    • +2
      artemis6  
    • THAT , is a fine bit of writ . It said what I felt , more clearly than i might have . Whatever happens , Jake , you will do well . Thank you .

    • 11 months ago
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