Our Rebellious Heritage
We have always been a nation of defiant f**kers and I hope we will be in the future:
Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death
March 23, 1775
By Patrick Henry
No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the house. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if, entertaining as I do opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The question before the house is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at the truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.
Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the numbers of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.
I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves and the House. Is it that insidious smile with which our petition has been lately received?
Trust it not, sir; it will prove a snare to your feet. Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss. Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlement assign any other possible motive for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne! In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation.
There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free–if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending–if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained–we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us! They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength but irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.
It is in vain, sir, to extentuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace–but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
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David_H:
Conservatives unwittingly side with the social forces that contribute to the destruction of traditional values.
- Christopher Lasch
Not one Republican president has balanced the budget in 34 years. You can not trust Republicans with your money.
- Howard Dean
______________________________________________________________________These things I consider, and many more before choosing a candidate, I made no reference to The Tea Party as they are inconsequential.
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Remember change happens in the mind not at the end of a gun. "For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at the truth..."
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I will be DEFIANT to any individual, group, or State till the day I die. Long live the rebellion. Statist will fail. Ron Paul 2012!
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Daniel_Summers:
Daniel I will "I will be DEFIANT to any individual, group, or State till the day I die." Provided they are wrong---in 2012 Ron Paul? Ok, good luck but you will be disappointed and wrong.
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Pretty good. I can't speak for the GOP since I isn't one but every conservative, that would be a believer in the Constitution, individual freedom and limited government, feels the same way, that we have to be ready and do battle with liberalism, that would be statism, control of the individual and loss of individual freedom and property, to preserve this country. It would be better to do this than to live as a piece of clay at the feet of liberalism as one of the unthinking masses dealing in hatred, class warfare and envy.
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Paratus:
Thanks for the different point of view. Sorry to inform you backwards thinking, hate, bigotry, and hate for the government are all hallmarks of Conservatism.
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David_H:
C'mon Dave you really think that the "Liberal Hordes" are acting out of rabid fanaticism? No WE are just merely responding in unison to Conservative lies.
If you think that Cons, Repugs, Teabags can be reasoned with and offer a impartial ear go to yahoo news and see how a LIB will be cannibalized by hoards of human scum.
So, do say what are you and where do you stand? We can tell you're no progressive.
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David_H:
My goodness, David, try going to RedState.com or FoxNews or the Blaze and express a contrary position. The vitriol is unreal on those sites. It makes HP looks Fraggle Rock by comparison. I'm sorry, I cannot accept the premise that the ferocity of the vitriol and hate is the same.
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David_H:
Do you see any long lines at soup kitchens (sadly there's still a need for them) is the mid west a giant dust bowl? NO! Is Osama Bin Laden roaming free to kill Americans NO! Are the troops not coming home during the first four years of this administration instead of almost two full terms under Bush? YES.
Do you know why any of this is? It's not because a Republican President prevented them but certainly because a Republican caused them in the first place.
As for "because I don't blindly follow somebody else's opinion does not make me intellectually challenged, morally corrupt or any of the things which so called liberals like to declare me." if you begin discourse ( meant to correct my wicked, wicked ways) by calling us " liberal hordes" in subtle mockery ( perhaps you thought I'm "intellectually challenged" and would not catch that) expect to be served accordingly.
Something I didn't mention before was the true problem in America today. Recall how this past mid term elections HOARDES of, I'll refrain from using the language that is suitable, uninformed people voted against their own interest and handed the House over to the Republicans. I hope that's not the reason you chose to embrace such a failed philosophy?
Me I'm a run of the mill Liberal supporting social and economic justice, advocating a progressive platform.
To answer your question, Pretty much yes, I'm on board with the Dems and Obama. You know the guy who kept the Nation from imploding despite the best effort of Cons, Repugs, Teabags....Oh, no here we go again!
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David_H:
You seem to think that if someone doesn't agree with you, the only explanation *must* be that they are part of some brainwashed "horde."
No, good sir, you are wrong. I think for myself.
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jackhole:
http://jackholesrealm.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/doi-hancocks-defiance.jpg
Sorry I tried to post this with my response and it didn't take. - 11 months ago
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David_H:
Oh, geez, toughen up. Grow a skin. That's kid stuff. I've been called Demoncrat, Dimcrat, Dimlib, Moonbat, Libtard and worse ... and that's on *HP*.
You should see some of the things they call gays on those right-wing sites. The things they call women who get abortions. The things they call illegal aliens.
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David_H:
The "WE" I made reference to was Libs,Dems, Progressives. I hardly thought of you as any of the above on the onset of out chat.
I don't think it was low turn out at the polling stations that led to the shameful shift of power during midterm elections, but people who maybe for the first time in their lives voted Democrat and were unhappy that Obama didn't reach up G_d's ass and pulled rainbows, unicorns and puppy dogs. The same kind that since I have seen embrace radical and failed philosophies such as marxism or socialism, *cough* *cough*( I jest really)
If you say Ron Paul I think I shall be VERY crossed with you.
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HarukoHaruhara:
Plus I have banned you from my blog many times ;-)
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HarukoHaruhara:
Don't you give me a sad smiley!
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jackhole:
Okay ...
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A rebellious heritage is a certain road towards real progress. I liked this article. Made me feel like there was hope. All I get lately in the news is Gumbo ya-ya. Everybody talking at me and saying nothing at all.
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SoLeZydeco:
Glad you liked it. I haven't given up on the good ol' US just on some of our radical constituents.
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jubal
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Power and politics have always attracted the psychopaths...they tend to amass in the GOP.
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jubal:
Good point maybe something to do with the vibes, along with greed and hate.
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jubal:
You have said it all in one sentence!
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Heh... The Followers of Negativity have arrived... Everybody wants to be somebody, I guess... =)
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Great Post jackhole, voted up... =)
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KB723:
KB!!!!!!
Thanks. glad to see you still here.
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jackhole:
I am not going anywhere jackhole, I Dig this site and the other... I wish you and yours a safe and happy holiday weekend... Best Wishes... =)
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KB723:
Good to see that this place has not fractured. Happy 4th KB.
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jackhole:
Thanks jackhole... You are always welcome at MSJ... There is none of this BS, you know what I am talking about...
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Perhaps what the republicans, teabaggers, conservatives and evangelical crybabies need is to have arms taken up agains them.
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gypsysailor:
They can be handled in the polling stations if we have the courage of our convictions, and as long as elections are s not on American Idol night.
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Thank you for this post. The quest for freedom has never totally been realized, yet we have much to be thankful for.
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snoskier:
Very true Sno!
I found this poem and it is the very last phrase that really really got me.
This country has it's troubles and we have done so much damage to this beautiful earth of ours, but in the end we are indeed in a land of freedom.The American Boy
by Author Unknown
SON:
Father, look up, and see that flag!
How gracefully it flies!
Those pretty stripes, they seem to be
A rainbow in the skies.FATHER:
It is your country's flag, my boy,
And proudly drinks the light,
O'er ocean's wave, in foreign climes,
A symbol of our might.SON:
Father, what fearful noise is that,
Now thundering in the clouds?
Why do they, cheering, wave their hat,
And rush along in crowds?FATHER:
It is the voice of cannonry,
The glad shouts of the free;
This is a day of memory,
'Tis FREEDOM'S JUBILEE!SON:
I wish that I was now a man,
I'd free my country too,
And cheer as loudly as the rest;
But, father, why don't you?FATHER:
I'm getting old and weak; but still
My heart is big with joy;
I've witnessed many a day like this,
Shout you aloud, my boy!SON:
HURRAH, FOR FREEDOM'S JUBILEE,
God bless our native land!
And may I live to hold the boon
Of freedom in my hand.FATHER:
Well done, my boy, grow up, and love
The land that gave you birth,—
A land where Freedom loves to dwell,—
A paradise on earth. - 11 months ago
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snoskier:
Indeed, my friend - we do.
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kalamama:
Beautiful post, thank you!
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The battle continues. The very nature of a free society is to attract those from without and within who would end that freedom.
I understand that this speech is posted on any number of right-wing blogs - let me ask you this . . . who is it that wishes to deny women the freedom of choice, tell people who they may love, and remove our hard-won right to collective bargaining? Who wishes to sell the properties belonging to the people of the United States to the highest bidder? Who wishes to remove our right to sue corporations for damages?
The list goes on, and the battle continues.
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ClassicalGas:
Indeed, my friend. The right to peaceful protest, argue against our government, and exercise our freedom of speech, is something lacking in most of the world.
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Shall we gather strength but irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?
Amazing how old his words are, and still so apropos. Thank you.
Power to the Peons! - 11 months ago
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wolfess:
Indeed!
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