Verdict reached in Casey Anthony Trial

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Judge Belvin Perry says he will read the verdict at 2:15 p.m. EDT Tuesday.
The Florida jury deliberated for more than 10 hours. If convicted of first-degree murder, the 25-year-old Anthony could get a death sentence.
She could also be acquitted or convicted of second-degree murder or manslaughter.
She is also charged with lying to sheriff's detectives investigating her daughter's 2008 disappearance.
Check out video:
http://www.comcast.net/video/jury_begins_deliberating_in_casey_anthony_trial/204...
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20110703/US.Casey.Anthony.Trial...
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Valence
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22,000 children die every day around the world.
That is s equivalent to:
1 child dying every 4 seconds15 children dying every minute
A 2010 Haiti earthquake occurring almost every 10 days
A 2004 Asian Tsunami occurring almost every 10 days
An Iraq-scale death toll every 18–43 days
Just under 8.1 million children dying every year
Some 88 million children dying between 2000 and 2009
Source:http://www.globalissues.org/article/715/today-over-22000-children-died-around-the-world
In this day and age that we live in, where information is but a click of a button away, to see people being patrons of the tom foolery being bombarded to them, just goes to show you, how moronic and unrealistic many AMERICAN people are.
All of a sudden you feel like a Tea Party Phag?Just because the Justice system didn't go the way you believe it should?Think that child deserves justice? what about the 22,000+? What about the Child Slaves?Where is your Phag Tea Party Rally for them?
P.S i didn't say i didn't care what happen to the child, i just think at least one of these stupid news channels should try to get the weather right before they try to feed be court room Drama.
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Casey Anthony will be released from jail Wednesday after getting credit for time served and good behavior.
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Judge: Casey Anthony to Remain Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=11T479hcVA8
Casey Anthony, who was acquitted of killing her toddler in a trial that became a media sensation, is likely to stay in prison for several more weeks after being sentenced Thursday on charges she lied to investigators. (July 7) - 11 months ago
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Casey Anthony to be freed late July or early Aug.
ORLANDO, Fla. — A judge sentenced Casey Anthony on Thursday to four years for lying to investigators but says she could go free in late July or early August because she has already served nearly three years in jail and has had good behavior.
While acquitted of killing and abusing her 2-year-old daughter Caylee, Anthony was convicted of four counts of lying to detectives trying to find her daughter in July 2008. She lied to them about working at the Universal Studios theme park, about leaving her daughter with a non-existent nanny named Zanny, about leaving the girl with friends and about receiving a phone call from her.
Her defense attorneys argued before sentencing that her convictions should be combined into one, but the judge disagreed. Judge Belvin Perry also fined her $1,000 on each count and said attorneys for both sides will have to decide exactly how much time she should be credited for.
At the time of the girl's disappearance in June 2008, Anthony, a single mother, and Caylee were living with Anthony's parents, George and Cindy Anthony, in suburban Orlando. No one has come forward as the child's father.
Prosecutors contended Anthony, then 22, suffocated Caylee with duct tape because she was interfering with her desire to be with her boyfriend and party with her friends.
Defense attorneys countered that the toddler accidentally drowned in the family swimming pool. They said that when Anthony panicked, her father, a former police officer, decided to make the death look like a murder. They said he put duct tape on the girl's mouth and then dumped the body in woods about a quarter-mile away.
The defense said Anthony's apparent carefree life hid emotional distress caused by sexual abuse from her father. Her father firmly denied both the cover-up and abuse claims. The prosecution called those claims absurd, and said no one makes an accident look like a murder.
Anthony stopped staying at the family house after the girl disappeared. She told her mother by phone that she and Caylee were spending time with friends. When Cindy Anthony asked to see Caylee, she says her daughter told her a series of lies: that they were in Jacksonville with a rich boyfriend Anthony concocted; that Caylee was with Zanny; that Zanny had been in a car crash and they were spending time with her in the hospital.
In mid-July 2008, Cindy and George Anthony were contacted by a towing yard that their daughter's car had been impounded for being abandoned and would be junked if not claimed. When George Anthony picked it up, he and the tow yard manager said it had the overwhelming stench of human decomposition. The defense said the smell was caused by a bag of trash that was in the trunk.
In one of the biggest and most important fights of the six-week trial, a prosecution scientist said the trunk contained air molecules consistent with a human body having decomposed there — but the defense questioned his methods and said they were unproven.
Jurors declined to talk with reporters immediately after Tuesday's verdict. But juror Jennifer Ford told ABC News in an interview that it was because "we were sick to our stomach to get that verdict."
"We were crying and not just the women," Ford said in an interview posted on the network's website Wednesday night. "It was emotional and we weren't ready."
Ford, a 32-year-old nursing student, said the case was a troubling one.
"I did not say she was innocent," Ford said. "I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be."
The prosecution didn't paint a clear enough picture of what happened to Caylee, Ford argued in a portion of the interview broadcast Wednesday night.
"I have no idea what happened to that child," Ford said.
As the sentencing was announced, Flora Reece, an Orlando real estate broker, stood outside the courthouse holding a sign that read "Arrest the Jury."
"At least she won't get to pop the champagne cork tonight," Reece said of the judge's decision to keep Anthony in jail for now.
The crowd of a few dozen emotionally charged protesters occasionally chanted "justice for Caylee." A handful of Case Anthony supporters also stood outside the courthouse, separate from her angry detractors.
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20110706/US.Casey.Anthony/?cid...
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Without knowing much of the case, I know only three things: (after edit: I apparently can't count.)
1. There is a huge difference between "Not Guilty" and "Innocent".
2. The only person that knows 100% what happened to the toddler is the mother.
3. The Prosecution failed to show beyond a reason of doubt that the mother murdered her toddler.The jurors did their job. The Prosecutors and the lawyers for the defendant did their jobs. I can understand the anger people have but people need to calm down and think logically. Calling for the woman's head on a spike isn't going to solve anything.
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A juror speaks.
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Vierotchka:
I don't believe him at all. I want justice for her daughter. Why he call it the way he did is his business, I don't care.
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Vierotchka:
Oh by the way thanks, Good post!
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letsliveinpeace:
He was present throughout the trial, you weren't. You have decided that Casey is guilty with no evidence to back such a judgment. You are a hair's breadth away from blind mob vengeance, not justice.
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Vierotchka:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43651613/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
Anthony juror: 'Sick To Our Stomach' Over VerdictJennifer Ford, or juror No. 3, said the jurors were "sick to their stomach" after coming to the decision. "I did not say she was innocent," Ford, a 32-year-old nursing student told ABC. "I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be."
Ford also explained why the jury opted against speaking to the media right after the verdict was announced. "It was emotional and we weren't ready. We wanted to do it with integrity and not contribute to the sensationalism of the trial."
Earlier, an alternate juror also defended the not guilty verdict. Russell Huekler, who did not play a part in deciding the case but sat through the trial, told NBC's TODAY that the prosecution had failed to prove the murder charge beyond a reasonable doubt.
"I definitely agree that they (jurors) did get it right. I support that decision whole-heartedly," he said, speaking from St. Pete Beach, Florida.Casey Anthony reacts with her defense team following her acquittal on first degree murder charges of her daughter Caylee at the Orange County Courthouse in Orlando, Florida, on Tuesday.
Huekler laid out three reasons:
The prosecution "didn't present the evidence that would have sustained either a murder charge or a manslaughter charge."
They also failed to show a motive. "We ... kept waiting to see what was the motive — just because Casey was a party girl did not show why she would possibly, you know, kill Caylee.”
And the prosecution was also unable to say "how did Caylee actually pass away."Asked whether Huekler thought Anthony, 25, was innocent or if he had reasonable doubt she was guilty, he said, "Definitely reasonable doubt for myself."
Story: Former fiance: Anthony family a ‘carnival of dysfunctionality’
Huekler said the "$64,000 question" was why Anthony failed to report her daughter's disappearance and told lies to police.
But he said it was important to remember that "the lies just didn't start with the death of Caylee" but several years before that. "I personally think this family was dysfunctional," he said.
Speaking to TODAY, Jeff Ashton, one of the lead prosecutors in the case, said the verdict was "not easy to hear" and he thought he had "mouthed the word 'wow' about five times."
"We were all that shocked," he said.
Video: Prosecutor: I was ‘shocked’ by verdict (on this page)
Ashton said he did not think the defense's account of Caylee's death — that she died accidentally in a swimming pool — was true.
"I cannot believe that's what happened ... but again, beyond reasonable doubt is a high standard," he told TODAY.
Story: Next for Casey Anthony: Big bucks?
'A rather important deception'
Ashton said that Casey Anthony's mother Cindy might face prosecution for perjury in the case for what he described as a "rather important deception that obviously was proven to be so by the other evidence."
He said he did not think the truth would ever be known "even if Casey got out of jail and wrote a book" about it because he would not be able to believe what she said.
It remains unclear where Anthony will go if she is released from jail, but her former fiance Jesse Grund told TODAY there was "no way" she would return to live with her parents.
Casey Anthony verdict fails to crush the Internet
"She's going to have money ... she's going to have that partying lifestyle she so craved," he said.
During the case, the defense accused the defendant's father, George, of molesting her.In a statement issued through the Anthony family lawyer, Mark Lippman, Cindy, George and their son Lee Anthony said "while the family may never know what has happened to Caylee Marie Anthony, they now have closure for this chapter of their life."
"They will now begin the long process of rebuilding their lives. Despite the baseless defense chosen by Casey Anthony, the family believes that the jury made a fair decision based on the evidence presented, the testimony presented, the scientific information presented and the rules that were given to them by the Honorable Judge Perry to guide them," the statement added.
It asked the media to give them time to "reflect on this verdict and decide the best way to move forward privately."
The statement asked that anyone wanting to honor Caylee by leaving stuffed animals or other toys near their home should instead donate them "in Caylee' s name to families in need, religious centers, or any other entity where the toys would be appreciated."
Anthony has been in jail since her October 2008 arrest on first-degree murder charges. She avoided a possible death sentence thanks to her acquittal on the murder count. The case began in July 2008 when Caylee was reported missing. - 11 months ago
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Vierotchka:
http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2011/07/06/20/58/9nDLA.Em.56.jpg
://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/07/us-crime-anthony-idUSTRE7620Y720110707
Jurors cried, felt sick after acquitting AnthonyVierotchka, you can hiss,complain and argue all that you want to, but you weren't there either. The jurors that were there are crying in disgust and angered on how they were forced to vote based of the terrible options that the prosecution handed down to them.
(Reuters) - A juror in the Casey Anthony case said on Wednesday that jurors cried and felt sick after deciding to acquit the young Florida mother of murder, a verdict that dropped jaws across the country.
"I did not say she was innocent," juror Jennifer Ford told ABC News. "I just said there was not enough evidence."
"If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be," the 32-year-old nursing student said.
All 12 jurors who found Casey, 25, not guilty of first-degree murder and other felony charges stemming from the 2008 death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee declined to comment to the media immediately after the verdict. Ford said they were emotional and not ready to speak.
"It was because we were sick to our stomach to get that verdict," she said of the jurors who had been sequestered in a hotel for the duration of the trial because of the intense media coverage. "We wanted to do it with integrity and not contribute to the sensationalism of the trial."
Court officials confirmed that jurors were housed at Rosen Shingle Creek, a 1,500-room luxury convention resort 20 minutes from the downtown Orlando court where they heard the case.
One of the five alternate jurors spoke to reporters after arriving home Tuesday night in St. Petersburg and said he would have reached the same conclusion had he taken part in the deliberations.
"I agree with it wholeheartedly," said Russell Huekler, a teacher. "It was the right decision that was made."
Prosecutors said Casey smothered Caylee with duct tape on June 16, 2008, drove around for several days with Caylee's body in her car trunk and then dumped the remains in woods near the Anthony family home.
The remains were found six months later after a nationwide search. The medical examiner ruled the death a homicide but could not determine how the toddler was killed.
VERDICT SHOCKED PROSECUTORS
Prosecutors felt they had enough circumstantial evidence to win a conviction and were taken aback by the not-guilty verdicts, a member of the prosecution team told Matt Lauer on NBC's Today show on Wednesday.
"It was not easy to hear," said veteran prosecutor Jeff Ashton, who delayed his retirement to see the case through.
"I think I mouthed the word 'wow' about five times. We were all that shocked," Ashton said.
He said prosecutors had felt they had a good case, given the manner in which Caylee's body was found and the odor some witnesses likened to human decomposition coming from the trunk of Casey's car.
Casey's behavior after her daughter's disappearance -- lying about Caylee's whereabouts, partying with friends and getting tattoos -- provided what the state thought was some of strongest evidence, he said.
Casey's actions were "just so completely inconsistent with any kind of accidental explanation for Caylee's death," Ashton told Lauer.
But Huekler, the alternate juror, said the state didn't prove Casey played a role in Caylee's death.
"The prosecution never gave any really motive of why Casey would have killed her daughter," he said, dismissing their contention that Casey wanted a carefree lifestyle unencumbered by the duties of motherhood.
"And then they didn't show us how Caylee died," he said. "They didn't give us any type of explanation for that."
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Vierotchka:
fortunately for the murdering mom they had no case. but the rest of us including most of the jury who found her not guilty know
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everyone icluding the jury knows the bitch is guilty, the prosecution had no case
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congoboy:
Finally a rational thought! Too many bleeding heart pansies on here. The same pansies that made our nation weak! Good to hear from a bold soul!
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JangoFetish:
thank you jango
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congoboy:
You think you know, but you don't really know - you're simply projecting.
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Vierotchka:
i guess youre right only casey and god truly know for sure. at any rate the month she spent partying, shopping and lying to her parents and the police are pretty suspicious activities following the death of her child but only circumstantial. but if someone asked me to bet everything i had and told me i'd double it if she were guilty or id lose it all if she weren't, id bet it all.
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congoboy:
My *opinion* is that the whole family knows full well what happened to Caley, and that the truth is too terrible for any of them to admit it. That's not what I know, that's just my opinion. As for Casey spending that time partying and getting drunk (lying to her parents is not necessarily the case if they all have lied, that's a he said she said and not worth anything) it may very well have been a mechanism to dull and dumb the pain, the emotions, and for getting away from the reality of what had actually happened, for escaping from an unspeakable reality which is not by any means necessarily her guilt, but something far, far worse, and something unspeakable that the whole family is covering up.
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Vierotchka:
if it were an accident there would be no need to hide the body and find escape through acting like an uncaring idiot. just my opinion. hopefull the truth will eventually come out
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congoboy:
I didn't say anything about an accident.
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Vierotchka:
and you were smart not to.
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Justice fails the people once again.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsClGIbCfv8&feature=player_detailpage
Jury finds Casey Anthony not guilty: why? - 11 months ago
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This is a distraction. Ask yourself how this affects your life, other than through the scandalous appeal of another's bloody laundry.
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Swisher:
Then what should we be talking about??--
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meesh76:
You're joking, right? Just about every other thread on this site has more impact on your life.
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Can we please get this shit off of Current? The fact that this story is running 24/7 on every single news channel and news site astounds me. I have absolutely no idea why this has become an obsession with these sites and channels but they need to start actually reporting on news that impact the nation and the world, not some tramp that whacked her kid. I could care less what did or did not happen in this person's life or if she did or did not kill her kid. What I do care about is having this idiotic story jammed down my throat no matter where I turn. Come on people, we've got bigger issues to tackle!!!
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Arizona_Huey:
what's on today's agenda...Are we going to solve world hunger, climate control, or tackle this debt crisis? Because obviously the death of a child is just not important>
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meesh76:
No, the death of a child is not important to me in any way - it happens hour after hour, day after day. Adults die hourly, children die hourly. Adults are murdered daily and children are murdered daily. It is a fact of life that will NEVER change. We, as Americans, are responsible for killing children all of the time in the wars we are involved in. Do we see any of that streamed 24/7 for months on end? No, we do not. Why is this worthless trash worthy of this type of coverage over any other deaths that happen?
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Arizona_Huey:
The media makes the situations bigger than they should be. Look at any case involving not only celebrities but just common, every day people. It also sickens me a little when the media show just one missing infant, toddler, child, or teenager all day. There are so many missing young people. You see them on the walls of your local Walmart, supermarket, etc. Why should one young person get the attention of the whole nation?
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Arizona_Huey:
I know. just because it's not your child you could care less. And just because bad things happen to people every hour of every day doesn't mean we should turn away when such a case is brought to light. Just think when your hour or your day may come, hopefully someone will say fuck you, now on to more important events.
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meesh76:
Outside of my friends and family, I absolutely expect nobody else to give a shit about me and I'm good with that! Murdering your child should not elevate you to rock star status and get you millions from future media appearances and book deals. How about focusing on people who actually do something that contributes to the good of society? Nope, we'd rather show trailer trash woman who kills her own daughter to grab ratings. That is what I have a problem with!
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Ashley_Byrd:
Exactly!!! Now this witch will get millions in book deals and media appearances due to this ridiculous attention the media paid to her. There are an unlimited number of great people doing fantastic things to the benefit of others and yet they go totally ignored in lieu of covering pathetic individuals that commit these gross acts.
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Arizona_Huey:
I some times think of Amy Fisher in cases like this. She had some made-for-TV movies based on what she did in the '90s. She became a porn star and is now on the show Celebrity Rehab With Dr. Drew.
(edit) And my question is: Why is this woman garnering attention? Whatever pain and suffering she has should be dealt with in private. She served her time in prison, she seemed to be remorseful, and even she mentioned how the media just lambasted her and not so much the man she had an affair with. She was 16 at the time I think.
But back to the current event. What happened sucks and I wouldn't wish it on a child let alone the mother. If you want "justice" for the toddler then go do something about it. Foster children, donate clothes and money to shelters, volunteer. Do something other than rage on the internet.
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Arizona_Huey:
Arizona_Huey, I totally agree with your comment. This lady shouldn't get one cent for this incident. The only thing that bothers me in this entire case is there is a baby dead, stuffed in a bag and thrown away like trash and the only real conclusion is "well, we'll never know what happened, duh"--I find that extremely unacceptable.
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meesh76:
Seriously, I get that. What I was trying to elude to, probably a bit more bluntly than necessary is the fact that I don't put any more of a tragedy factor based on whether the murder victim was a child or an adult, white/non white, poor or rich, etc. In my eyes, they all warrant the same level. What really pisses me off is the ridiculous amount of coverage the media gives this case while totally ignoring others just like it or worse.
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OK...I know this is going to sound controversial, and first let me say that if indeed she did commit this murder (which my gut tells me she did) I hope the case is reopened with new evidence and that she's found guilty and rots in jail for the rest of her life. BUT, as it stands now, if you look at the evidence, this is a perfect example of the justice system doing it's job.
My point is this: a jury in this country is held to the the highest imaginable standard of scrutiny and because of that they must have absolute evidence (not circumstantial) in order to convict someone. As the evidence was presented during the trial, it wasn't enough to prove that Casey Anthony was a murderer. In a society where the law states that someone is innocent until PROVEN guilty, as much as it pains me to say it, the "right" verdict was delivered in this case. It's not the jury's job to deliver a Hollywood ending, but to weigh facts and evidence and reach a logical provable conclusion based on that evidence.
Personally, even though like I said, I really hope there is some new evidence discovered that links her (or someone else) more conclusively, I'm thankful that our justice system does operate in a way that provides for innocence until proof of guilt. Imagine how much worse the system would be (and it's far from perfect now) if the courts gave in to public opinion or "gut instinct". Yes, Casey Anthony might be in jail right now, but it would signify a flaw so profound in our justice system that the one small victory of her conviction would mean nothing."It is better and more satisfactory to acquit a thousand guilty persons than to put a single innocent one to death." - Twelfth-Century Legal Theorist Maimonides
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musicjohnny:
Very good point made but I'm gonna have to disagree with some of it. She should not be allowed to go under any circumstances if there is even a slight chance that she killed Caylee.
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tlbuffin:
What about heaven... LOL Just kidding!
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JangoFetish:
Wait a sec...I mean there's a chance YOU killed her. There a slight chance that literally anyone killed her lol. You can't really hold people based on that.
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She still has to do time for lying to the police. Perhaps she will meet her end while in a jail storeroom or something, hopefully.
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JangoFetish:
Your opinion is a fine example of why cases are not tried in the court of public opinion but in a courtroom by a jury of the accused's peers. It's not a perfect system but it's better than mob justice.
I hope Casey gets on with her life and lives it as a productive member of society.
Remember, "It is better to suffer an injustice than to commit an injustice."
~ Quintus Horatius Flaccus (Horace) 65 BCE - 8 BCE) - 11 months ago
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charliesommers:
I somehow doubt that you would be saying that if it were your daughter.
If it were my daughter that cunt would have never made it to court. - 11 months ago
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JangoFetish:
I would have said the same thing no matter who's daughter it was. Vigilante justice is a synonym for no justice at all. If you murdered someone on a gut feeling you would have deserved being locked in a snug cell with Bubba for the rest of your life.
Our system of justice is not perfect but, it's one of the best in the world.
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charliesommers:
If Caylee were my daughter, I would have served justice my way since the leagal system failed and i would have taken the chance of going to prison.
Our system is the most flawed of all. That is why crime is more rampant in the US than most civilized countries. We are too far laid back. We literally need to bring back the gallows. - 11 months ago
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charliesommers:
Vigilante justice is a synonym for doing the Justice systems job for it since it cannot be trusted.
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JangoFetish:
Did the legal system fail or is your understanding of the legal system flawed?
"it is better one hundred guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer."
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charliesommers:
The legal system is flawed.
I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with Mr. Franklin. But an perfect legal system would not need to worry about getting the wrong girl. - 11 months ago
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JangoFetish:
If the one innocent person that suffered was one of your loved ones would you feel differently? Here are some cases in which vigilante justice went horribly awry.
http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2010/dec/02/man-arrested-in-thanksgiving-slaying-o...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11125863/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/t/vigilante-mob...
http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/-uk-vigilantes-killed-and-tort/919315
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charliesommers:
Not saying Vigilante justice is right, but when justice fails the victim then it is perhaps the only way.
- 11 months ago
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JangoFetish:
Sorry but that is exactly what you are saying. Look at your previous comment and notice that you said;
"Vigilante justice is a synonym for doing the Justice systems job for it since it cannot be trusted."
I maintain my position that justice should be within the law. We are, and should remain, a nation that respects the rule of law and not a mob mentality of vigilante justice.
- 11 months ago
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tlbuffin:
That is true but only because it is not made a public event. It did deter crime some when there were hangings in town squares. I am against the death penalty if it is kept hidden because then it defeats its purpose.
- 11 months ago
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appears you are not well informed on "it's purpose"
May I suggest an interesting read for you?
"Discipline and Punish: The Birth of the Prison" Michel Foucault
- 11 months ago
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Nancy Grace: Devil is dancing:
Headline News anchor Nancy Grace said Tuesday that Casey Anthony’s not-guilty verdict is “not the truth” about what happened to 2-year-old Caylee, and said the toddler’s “death has gone unavenged.” Grace has led her network’s constant coverage of Anthony’s trial and verdict, and Grace’s focus had helped move the case from a local tragedy to a national spectacle. Grace concluded by saying the “devil is dancing” at the verdict. Anthony’s attorney Cheney Mason criticized the media’s obsession with the case Tuesday, not naming Grace specifically but saying some anchors and talking heads had crossed a line in their coverage of the trial. Grace drew record ratings for HLN for her coverage of the five-week trial.http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2011/07/05/nancy-grace-devil-is-dancing.html
- 11 months ago
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Why was the media infatuated with the Casey Anthony story? Murders happen all the time. Children are killed all the time.
11 months after Caylee Anthony's murder, 9 year old Brisenia Flores was killed in a home invasion by Shawna Forde and a gang of "minutemen" thugs. Shawna was convicted in February and sentenced to death - with very little media attention. Just this week the final accomplice in this crime was convicted.
Can you imagine a media which would give the Shawna Forde trial the wall-to-wall coverage that Casey Anthony got? Coverage which might induce the public to question our national xenophobia, bigotry and ingrained exceptionalism?
Niether can I.
- 11 months ago
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Here come her books, reality shows, and movie!
- 11 months ago
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Casey Anthony, the young Florida mother who has been a constant presence on the cable news networks during the trial about whether she murdered her 2-year-old daughter Caylee Marie three years ago, was just found not guilty on the most serious charges against her.
A jury found her not guilty of first degree murder, not guilty of aggravated manslaughter and not guilty of aggravated child abuse.
She was found guilty on four counts of providing false information to a law enforcement officer
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http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/07/05/137627015/casey-anthony-found-not... - 11 months ago
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/06/florida.casey.anthony.next/
Don't be surprised if Casey Anthony walks out of jail a free woman after her sentencing Thursday, legal experts say.And, they add, there is nothing stopping her from cashing in on book or movie deals -- as her acquittal on serious charges now means she is free to profit off her story.
With Tuesday's not guilty verdict on murder charges behind her, Anthony -- and the thousands riveted by every twist in the case -- now turn their attention to Thursday when the 25-year-old will learn her fate.
A jury on Tuesday found Anthony not guilty of first degree murder, aggravated child abuse and aggravated manslaughter in the 2008 death of her daughter Caylee.
- 11 months ago
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I'm so disgusted! Still using the kid!
- 11 months ago
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It is so obvious to everyone who followed this case that Casey murdered that poor little defenseless child! No mother with a human heart would behave the way she has. She must be an antisocial, psychotic monster. There has been no justice for Caylee at all, her suffering was evidently in vain!
- 11 months ago
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MagiL:
No, it seems obvious only to the mob of primitive individuals who want their pound of flesh at any cost, who cheer at executions even if the person is innocent, and who hate and deny justice.
- 11 months ago
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Vierotchka:
You better not be implying that kind of person is me! NONE of what you said is true and you don't know anything about me so, stop getting personal, OK? This woman murdered her own child and the jury was too stupid to even see for themselves. Casey acted like a murderer, sounded like a murderer, had plenty of evidence against her, threw her entire family under the bus, lied about EVERYTHING and -- oh yea, HER CHILD WAS KILLED & SHE DIDN'T CARE!!!!!! Your false accusations and abusive remarks have nothing to do with the realities.
- 11 months ago
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MagiL:
I obviously hit a raw nerve! LOL! You don't KNOW that this woman murdered her child, you just want to believe she did. As for the jury, they followed the law, they were not stupid - only stupid and ignorant people can think that the jury is stupid.
- 11 months ago
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MagiL:
There are reasons for Jury trials and judges and evidence. Certainly mistakes are made, but much fewer if reasonable people review the evidence and confer fewer mistakes are made. I definitely wouldn't want to choose you as my judge. Twelve jurors sat and listened to weeks of evidence and made a considered decision. You think you are better placed to judge???
- 11 months ago
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CaptSutter:
If you and Vierotchka are unable to see that if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck - it's a duck, it is no reason to turn on me! As a mother I am outraged that there is a dead child that this Casey person and apparently you guys, don't care about that. I followed this case very closely. There was no justice done just like the OJ trial and the murderer did not go to jail as she should have. I have a right to speak my opinion just like you do, as this is America. If you don't like it fine. There is no need to be personal, nasty and way too attached to your own opinion that you cannot allow for others! No matter what you say I have a perfect right to believe that the murderer, who lied about everything and clearly is uncaring about the death of an innocent little girl deserves to serve time for her psychotic and anti-social behavior. I am allowed to say that here and anywhere else I feel like. You can't change that so give up!
- 11 months ago
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Sorry to burst your overgrown ego but there is nothing you can say that will hit any 'nerves'. I don't know you and therefore I just don't care enough to be that attached. Your choice to be if you want to! Umm, I'll break this gently.....this is the United States of America and I am allowed to have as much of an opinion as you are. You cannot convince me and I am not trying to convince you. Again - don't care enough! This is a simple forum for different opinions so there is really no need for you to act like it's a theater and like you are the only one who may be on center stage to speak. We all come here to express and relate in a civilized way. If you can't hack it like that as an adult, you may wish to try 'Fox News', Sesame Street or something more your style.
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MagiL:
You and Jack Bauer I suppose,
You may be convinced that this is a miscarriage of justice, but I wasn't in the court room. I didn't spend weeks reviewing the arguments. There are a lot of times when I disagree with the results of the system, but I think it is more important that there be a system and that it gets things right most of the time. When the system breaks down then there is no justice, just revenge and occasionally regrets when it becomes obvious that revenge was dealt on the wrong head.
I happen to like the idea that if I were unjustly accused that I would have a chance of going free. I am quite selfish in that way. I also am not a real friend of revenge, it always seems like a waste of time when you could spend the effort emotionally and physically on trying to prevent other tragedies... I have yet to see revenge have any positive affect, though I admit it is a very emotional topic and hard to resist the temptation, it just doesn't work.
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"This is the United States of America and I am allowed to have as much of an opinion as you are." You have a pretty big stage but you aren't the world. I can't stand "American Exceptional-ism". "I am right by definition! We are the greatest nation on earth!"
When will you wake up and accept that everyone should be judged by the same standards? Don't you realize that you are betraying your heritage by holding yourself to a different standard???I am a sixth generation Californian and the earliest ancestor I can track down on the in the "Americas" is 1756. I may be wrong about you but the ones who are so fervent about "American Exceptional-ism" are usually among the first second and third generations. Yes you have right to an opinion, but please "This is the USA" is such a stupid argument especially when you are talking to the rest of the world..
- 10 months ago
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CaptSutter:
Well, I happen to like the idea that a sociopathic murderer who killed an innocent child will pay for her crime by staying in jail, away from society. I feel sorry for folks like you who are not paying attention to the evidence, believe the lies, become entranced by a pretty face and fall for her act. Too bad she fooled you.
- 10 months ago
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Look Pal, don't put your ugly words in my mouth. I never implied that - it all originates with you! My family goes back to the founders of the US, to Daniel Boone and other illustrious figures from early America, too. I don't wave the flag or hold myself to different standards, as you so venomously stated. I do, however, believe that we all have the right to speak freely. Your anger will not change that and neither will twisting my words for your own purposes. You are misrepresenting what I said to use my opinion to launch your own platform. Kindly stop twisting my words so that you can attempt to use them against me - it's not working! After seeing how thoroughly you are intent upon misunderstanding people I can understand why you are so upset at the smallest suggestion that Casey the murdering mother is really guilty. Like OJ, no doubt, she will mount an energetic search for the real killer - probably in every bar, beauty shop and mall in Florida not to mention her boyfriends house!! I trust that since you and I obviously disagree and have nothing else to say to one another, you will realize that this discussion is over!
- 10 months ago
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CaptSutter:
So you were totally mistaken in your notions, your ancestors actually arrived here AFTER mine and that has proved absolutely nothing! You are no better than I am and vice-versa. Sorry to dispell the false idea of your own superiority. Perhaps you want to think first before publishing any more embarrassing 'revelations', put-downs, bits of hatred, generational prejudice and vitriol.
- 10 months ago
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MagiL:
Oh too bad we are related, in my family they always said "uncle Daniel never was much account" but families are like that.
What would you put in place of the jury system?
What went wrong this time, A white girl gets a better deal than a black man?
The cops were incompetent?
The DA was incompetent?
Someone was bribed?
Other people (i.e. the jury) are just too stupid?In the local bar (Nevada City, CA) they used to have a picture of a lynching and my great grandfather was on the ground part of the lynching mob. I think my great grandfather was a good man but we aren't really proud of that part of history.
So I guess that is the end of it. I am more afraid of the lynch mob than I am of the legal system making mistakes... It is all a matter of perspective.
- 10 months ago
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This whole thing made my family and I sick to our stomachs. Anyone with a mind knows she done it. You just don't ignore the tragedy for thirty days and than tell the detectives, who were in charge of finding your baby, every lie you can come up with. I have no more faith in our judicial system, electoral system, or governing system. America sucks!!
Also, how did they let a bunch of drunken nursing aids and students on the jury? One was convicted of beating her dad up with her boyfriend, the other was convicted of DUI, and some were convicted on Drug charges. WTF!?! Also, they had a religious nut in there that said it wasn't her place to judge. OMFG!! I'm usually against Nany Grace for her knee jerk responses and inciting violence but all I can say now is the Ball is in her court.
Just listen to the bitch and the detectives interrogating her.
http://www.youtube.com/user/NifterMedia#p/u/235/8rA4nBgphfQ
- 11 months ago
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sick that she will be making money off her dead kid's story....sick
- 11 months ago
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asocial:
OK - We'll all go with your opinion then ... will that calm you down?
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asocial:
You were KICKED OFF THIS SITE , you've been gone for years now and we're still here.
That must really gnaw at you every night when you try to lay down and get some rest doesn't it JJ ?
- 11 months ago
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And like you are the go-to on criminal law. You are a banshee screaming, bullshit. You wanna be politically correct, and all you are coming off is cold, manipulative and callous. Could be why you are in support of Casey Anthony. Me, personally, I could care less about Casey Anthony. I know where all my children are. I have a pool, I live in Florida, I NEVER had a child fall in my pool--you know why?-Because GOOD parents, RESPONSIBLE parents TEND to their kids!! I am not saying accidents don't happen, but accidents are caused, someone is at fault, and even if we believe in our system of justice, this lady did a disservice to her child. She did not protect her. And for that, she is liable, and she should have not walked away scott-free. That is all I am saying. There is no need for lynch mobs, this lady knows the truth, or atleast someone does, and whomever has to answer for this crime will pay three-fold. What is done in the dark will come to light. We need to respectfully disagree, but you don't know it all either. So stop with all the flammable comments.
- 11 months ago
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keithponder:
JJ???
- 11 months ago
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Jay Jammer was banned from Current over 2 years ago for being the worst TROLL ever imaginable.
He's also notorious for opening up new accounts just to continue TROLLING like he's doing right now. That's what the word ASOCIAL means. He's mocking us.
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te he he.
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tl, exactly, this is the type of questioning that needs to be addressed. All we have to go by is lies. Casey, hasn't told not one real story, or atleast one that has confirmed evidence involved. As for the family, yes, they seem to have some issues. I don't know what to believe on the molestation, but, there are issues. Just speaking as a mother, first instinct is to protect your child. She didn't do that by any standards. Her child was thrown in the woods to rot. She failed Caylee. There may not be evidence to link her to a murder, but that doesn't mean she is innocent. But there is evidence of child abuse. No matter who could have done this, the father, mother, or the brother, including Casey, this child, living in this environment if you do believe there was abuse, was abused. And that is what I am saying. I am not an advocate for the death penalty. But, I don't feel comfortable that this lady is going to just walk in a few days and there are still unanswered questions. They need to question all the family about this possible drowning. They need to have Casey explain more. You know this is the end of this story. No one is going to pay for this crime. Casey is free, the parents are free, the brother is free, Caylee is dead. Three years later and no closer to the truth than if it were 2008. And as we have seen, no evidence of anything tying anyone to this little girl. And to say her mother is not responsible for her. It doesn't sit well with me.
- 11 months ago
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Abusive mother and abused child...
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Portrait of an abusive mother who hates her child so much that she chose to murder her, and her abused child.
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Typical hating and abusive mother, and her poor unhappy beat-up abused daughter.
- 11 months ago
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See how that horrible woman hated her daughter and how unhappy, unloved and beaten up her daughter was.
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The look of sheer cruelty and hatred on the mother's face, and the desperately unhappy and abused daughter should make your skin crawl.
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Vierotchka:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey_anthony_trial/casey-anthony-juror-sick-stomach-gu...
Casey Anthony Juror: 'Sick to Our Stomachs' Over Not Guilty VerdictPeople take photos everyday. I'm not surprised at all at you attempting to being indigent just to make a useless point.
==========================================================asey Anthony juror Jennifer Ford said today that she and the other jurors cried and were "sick to our stomachs" after voting to acquit Casey Anthony of charges that she killed her 2-year-old daughter Caylee.
"I did not say she was innocent," said Ford, who had previously only been identified as juror number 3. "I just said there was not enough evidence. If you cannot prove what the crime was, you cannot determine what the punishment should be."
The jury's jaw dropping not guilty verdict shocked court observers, but it was also a difficult moment for the panel, Ford said in an exclusive interview with ABC News. No one from the jury was willing to come out and talk to the media in the hours after the verdict.
"Everyone wonders why we didn't speak to the media right away," Ford said. "It was because we were sick to our stomach to get that verdict. We were crying and not just the women. It was emotional and we weren't ready. We wanted to do it with integrity and not contribute to the sensationalism of the trial."
Instead of murder, Casey Anthony, 25, was found guilty of four counts of lying to law enforcement and could be released from jail as early as Thursday.
Ford praised the jurors.
"They picked a great bunch of people, such high integrity. And there was high morale," she said. "We all joked. We are like a big group of cousins."
Casey Anthony Prosecutor: 'All Came Down to Cause of Death'
Earlier today, the prosecutor and an alternate juror agreed on why the jury had refused to convict Anthony: They couldn't prove how little Caylee Anthony died.
"It all came down to the evidence," said Florida state attorney Jeff Ashton on "The View." "I think ultimately it all came down to -- at least from what the one alternate said -- it came down to the cause of death."
Russell Huekler, one of five alternate jurors who were present for all the testimony and sequestered along with the 12 other jurors, said today that he would have delivered the same verdict and that he was shocked by the public outrage over the trial's outcome.
Casey Anthony: Was There Reasonable Doubt? Watch Video
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Top 9 Moments: Casey Anthony Trial Watch Video"The prosecution failed to prove their case and there was reasonable doubt. Again, they didn't show us how Caylee died. They didn't show us a motive. I'm sorry people feel that way. ... These were 17 total jurors. They really listened to this case and kept an open mind," Huekler said.
Prosecution was hampered by the fact that Caylee Anthony's body wasn't discovered until six months after she disappeared. She was found lying in a swampy, wooded area. Her body was so badly decomposed that the autopsy could not determine a cause of death and stated only that she was a victim of homicide by undetermined means.
Top 9 Moments: Casey Anthony Trial
"I don't think it was the lack of DNA" connecting Casey Anthony to her daughter's death that undermined the case, Ashton said. "It was the cause of death."
Ashton said that he and his team felt they put on a good case.
"We were pretty shocked" at the verdict, he said. "We put on everything that an investigation, a really thorough investigation over three years, produced. That's the way it goes. I think I mouthed 'Wow' five times."
One of the most powerful pieces of evidence, he said, was the photo of Caylee's decomposed skull with the pieces of duct tape where her mouth and nose would have been.
"What I've said all along is if a jury looks at that photograph and doesn't see it the way I do and doesn't know how she died, then so be it," Ashton said. "I wouldn't have been involved in this case if I didn't think she did it."
Huekler said he believed Caylee's death was just a horrific accident and that Casey Anthony was a good mother.
"The first number of witnesses were Casey's friend and every time that they said they saw Casey with Caylee, it was a loving relationship and no one provided evidence to the contrary," Huekler said.
Huekler said the lack of physical evidence that Caylee was murdered overwhelmed the circumstantial evidence of Casey Anthony's many lies and her hard partying in the 31 days when she knew her daughter was dead but didn't tell authorities.
"Yeah, the behavior was bizarre, but what I took from that is that the family was very dysfunctional. Because they were so dysfunctional, that was the norm for them. Casey didn't just start lying for the first 31 days [after Caylee disappeared]. She had been lying for the past two years...I felt it was the norm for her," Huekler said.
Huekler also said it didn't bother him that Casey Anthony did not testify in her own defense.
Mark Lippman, a lawyer for Anthony's parents, said on "Good Morning America" today that George and Cindy Anthony were shocked by the verdict, not because they believe Casey Anthony is guilty, but because they thought the state did a fantastic job presenting their case.
George and Cindy Anthony have not met with their daughter since her trial began, but they hope to meet with her and to one day get the truth about what happened to Caylee.
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I don't know how people can be so comfortable with "trial by media" because that is exactly what this is. WE did not sit on the jury, and WE do not know what the jury had in front of them or did not have in front of them. WE can not be sure of anything. WE can speculate, and guess, and curse out the mother, the brother, the parents, but the only truth WE actually have is that WE don't know. End of story.
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thank you V
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Photo of a young Charles Manson. Look at that nice smile. - 11 months ago
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Photo of a happy John Wayne Gacy at a party for a young boy before he decided to kill him - 11 months ago
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keithponder:
clowns are scary...YIKes!
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This photo of Jeffrey Dahmer bares an amazing resembles to yours of Casey Anthony. Both killers look so innocent. - 11 months ago
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keithponder:
Nonsense.
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http://www.heraldnews.com/archive/x1971618315/g12c0000000000000006da283f18435af2...
Photo is a young adorable Lizzy Borden. Wasn't she cute. Who would have ever guess that she would whack her loving mother to death one day. - 11 months ago
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