Sadly it exists mostly of the opinions of people like you up to this point. This oppertunity happens to open it up to the possibility of finally seeing the light of day.

People like me?

i am a big fan of your comments sandy, your the kind of new blood this place needs.

some of the names on this list surprised me - James Dean, really?
and i was pleased to see a hometown hero of mine up there - Allen Ginsberg

It's a shame there are so many significant historical figures that noone ever heard of because they were gay, and just as many that everyone has heard of but noone talks about them being gay.

(but i think students can go without learning about John Holmes & John Wayne Gacy)

i was only surprised by james dean, - pleased to see ginsberg because he grew up in the same zip-code as me.

The song says," prettiest girl I've ever seen, James Dean". Actualy he was Bi but for the right wing that's close enough.

T, just sent you a PM

Can we narrow this list to people who have patents? You know, in the field of science or medicine?

Fun List Burman. But Where's Raymond Burr? Jim(aka)Roger McGuinn? Long John Baldry? Me? Some of these names are "eye of the beholder" choices IMHO. Ceasar like most Roman men did partake in the beauty of the younger male fare available to him on the trail but he was also know to enjoy females as well. Not the case for Alexander the Great or Hadrian who were exclusively gay men. Alot of these are Bi or in the case of people like Manson for instance taking what's available to them in prison. I know for instance that I had sex with many young men when i was young and few of them were actually gay. Most ended up happily married with wives and families of their own. To have partaken a few times in experimentation does not make one Gay. If that be the case then the dozens of times I had sex with women in my early years makes me straight. And trust me... I'm not.

There is a very old saying about Ceasar you brought to mind; "He is every womans' husband and every mans wife." Now if I can only remember who said it.

wait? Captain Crunch? was Frankenberry gay too?

You bring up and excellent point!

i am dying to learn about the transgender part of this curriculum, except for Chaz Bono i am drawing a complete blank.
J. Edgar Hoover ? - (nobody would claim him would they)

TBH, it's not a problem for nearly anyone under 30 in this country.

My generation is overwhelmingly accepting of it, it's the boomers, as usual, who are fucking things up.

I agree I'm will be 32 this month, but when I was in High school people were hesitant about it but for the most part accepting. Some of my best friends are gay, and one of my friends she had moved to NY 3 years go and met someone she fell in love with and now she can finally get married now. We just need the old people to just get over the fact that this is not their generation any more and times are changing.

Oh, there are lots in modern history- Alexis Arquette, Candis Cayne, Wendy Carlos, Model and "Bond Girl" Tula, etc. LOTS of them.

Before there was surgery, it would be harder as an outside observer to define a transgendered person from a cross dresser. (BTW- Hoover was definitely just a cross-dresser.)

Off the top of my head I'm not good with names, but there was a famous Jazz musician who was a female-to-male. Even his children (step children, from his wife's previous marriage) did not know he was a biological female until he died.

And author George Sand was a woman who always dressed as a man, and "married" a woman- Alice B Toklass, of the famous brownies.

A great example from Fiction was Virginia Wolfe's "Orlando", who was an imortal, who after living for centuries as a man, woke up one morning as a woman.

For starters, there are plenty of young people who are just as homophobic as boomers and act out violently against gays. I'm seeing that more and more in the news. Secondly, there are many boomers in the gay community. Plenty of them post here at Current. You can not make such a blanket statement attacking my generation.

Yep- listed her on my very first comment.

It's not a generalization, it's just straight numbers.

Less than 40% of people aged 50 and up support gay marriage and it's more than 70% for those 30 and under.

In this country, 70% is a super-majority. Gay marriage would actually be legal here in California my fellow young citizens weren't such buttholes too lazy to vote.

Plenty of them post here at Current. Like me fer instance?

Yes, freehit. :)

Sorry to hear about your generation's voter apathy. That as much as anything feeds into the continuation of antiquated policy. Start voting and maybe you'll get more politicians who agree with you elected. It can't hurt. I still don't like blanket statements, no matter what generation it is.