No end seen to refugees fleeing drought in East Africa
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And I know I have posted about this several times in the last week. And that's because it's that important.
And let me also add that we alll know droughts happen in Africa. The difference now is the scope, pace, severity and patterns which can be seen now, especially by those who live in these areas and know the land.
http://water-is-life.blogspot.com/2011/07/climate-changebiodistress-test-of.html
All information posted so far on this drought can be found here.
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JanforGore
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This isn't about left or right. The fact you specifically mention that along with your defense of the oil companies only shows your true agenda. And as usual your total disregard for the situation this has made shows your agenda as well. This isn't the first time you have entered a thread with total apathy and disregard for what these disasters are doing to the people who are there, which many of these posts also discuss. But considering your demeanor is one of a nose in the air looking down at all snob it isn't surprising. This also isn't just about one event, it is about events taking place with more frequency, severity and scope in many places around the world which even the people living in these places know are different and not normal. No wonder you come in this one to refute the reality. Now I know what this is really about to some of these elitist deniers... they won't admit the reality of this because it is affecting poor and brownskinned people, and well, they just don't care about them.
http://www.trust.org/alertnet/news/experts-demystify-link-between-extreme-weathe...
"The paper puts it like this: if the norm used to be one hurricane per year and then after global warming started, there were two hurricanes per year, scientists cannot determine which was caused by climate change because the two are indistinguishable. The effect of climate change is the increase in the average number of hurricanes.
“The upshot is that one event doesn’t actually have information about climate change and vice versa,” Gulledge said. “So it becomes this question that people focus on that science fundamentally has no answer for.”
But that does not mean extreme weather events in the recent past are not, at least partially, the product of global warming.
WEATHER EQUIVALENT OF SPEEDING
The Pew Center report refers to the barrage of weather disasters that plagued the world last year. 2010 tied with 2005 as the warmest year globally since 1880, with 19 countries reaching their highest temperatures ever, the largest number of new records in a single year.
Parts of Pakistan endured Asia’s hottest temperatures in history; Russia lost 56,000 people to an unprecedented heat wave; and China’s Yunan province saw its worst drought in 100 years. It was also the wettest year since 1990, bringing deadly floods to Pakistan, Brazil, Australia, and many areas of the United States.
Yet while climate change did not directly cause these events, it is responsible for their elevated frequency and heightened intensity, according to the report.
“Just as speeding increases the risk of a deadly auto accident, but cannot be conclusively assigned as the cause of an accident, a particular heat wave is not directly caused by global warming, but has a higher risk of occurrence and of being intense because of global warming," the analysis states.
Floods and droughts occurred long before any human-induced changes to the surface temperature of the earth. But recent large-scale shifts - over the past 50 years, total rainfall has risen by 7 percent and temperatures continue to reach new highs - have made extreme weather events in general more common and more dangerous.
“What matters is that there is a statistical record of these events occurring with increasing frequency and/or intensity over time, that this trend is consistent with expectations from global warming, and that our understanding of climate physics indicates that this trend should continue into the future as the world continues to warm," the report says.
Rather than trying to predict the details of specific catastrophic events, policymakers should collaborate with scientists to understand these evolving trends in weather patterns, which will undoubtedly play a role in future disasters as global warming continues, the researchers recommend.
“The signal of climate change is emerging from the noise of immense variability of weather,” Scientific American’s Carey said. “If you look at an individual event, it wasn’t caused by climate change, but the intensity, the size, whatever, was caused by climate change.”
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You can stop with the broken record red herring only "La Nina" B s now. - 11 months ago
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JanforGore:
If that is in response to my comment, then all it shows is that scientists are still not entirely sure what causes these events. So to blame them on the so-called man-made global warming, or oil companies is really not a good idea.
At the moment all agencies see these events as being natural and due to oceanic oscillations which have been well researched and understood for many years.
You need to stop looking for someone to blame and focus instead on solutions. - 11 months ago
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Delta_55N:
"Quoting extremist-left articles does nothing to increase your credibility. "
Some of us have been saying that for a while now. Sadly you'll find little balance or rational thought here.
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IceKat:
Quoting averages doesn't hold water because people aren't all living in an "average". Yours is a false trick. We could have 200-below on one side of the planet and 200-plus the other side and you could not keep using such a false argument.
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"As parts of the Horn of Africa experience their driest periods in 60 years, pushing the numbers needing aid to beyond 10 million, some have been quick to blame climate change." says the UK's left-wing Guardian.
While some are desperate to blame oil companies for local weather events, more people are seeing the reality of how our weather and climate works.
From the Guardian article, "But no single event can be attributed to climate change, which involves long-term (decades or longer) trends in climate variability. There is, however, consensus in attributing the drought to the particularly strong La Niña event. The impact of climate change on the intensity and frequency of La Niña and El Niño in future is unknown."
Still, that won't stop the extremist-left from revelling in glee at the thought that there is a weather event they can use to prop-up their failing CO2 = bad weather theory.
""The pool of warm water in the east intensifies rains in Australia, the Philippines, and Indonesia. Domino-style, this pattern also increases the intensity of westerly winds over the Indian Ocean, pulling moisture away from east Africa toward Indonesia and Australia. The result? Drought over most of east Africa and floods and lush vegetation in Australia and other parts of Southeast Asia," according to the US government's National Aeronautics and Space Administration."
Not according to some, judging by some of the comments below.
But why believe scientists when there's a gaggle of unqualified extremists to latch onto for their sensationalist leadership into unprecedented stupidity. - 11 months ago
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Delta_55N:
That is the article I quoted from, yes.
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http://allafrica.com/stories/201107150088.html
Second refugee camp being opened.
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JanforGore:
Who would vote down a refugee camp for these people being opened? What kind of heartless bastard are you?
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Toss in a car engine that makes its own fuel the CRUDE OIL-BASED FUELS no longer draining the World Economy would take care of these starving folks. RIGHT QUICK.
Naw. Let's drink some more Stupid today too, that's it, yeah.
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Gravity_Man:
Pockets full of money when none is feeding a Citgo fuel pump. pockets full of money TO OVERFLOWING your money in YOUR POCKETS.
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I read that some 300 children were left to die in the desert as the parents seek shelter in a refugee camp. This is tragic and sad. And it is the reality of a big
part of Africa. Genocides, theft of resources, drought, they can expect that there will be few people to come to their aid. I guess the general thinking among nations is, the sooner they die off the better, - 11 months ago
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Thank you for the post Jan.
Squarethecircle, if I understand you correctly, I agree. A change in values is in order. I think greed is one of humanities biggest obstacles. - 11 months ago
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squarethecircle
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To fix everything will not be hard we just have to get started down the right path.
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It is important. Why should these people suffer for our stupidity, ignorance, indifference and greed.
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EmileZ:
We continue to act on our baser instincts rather than at that higher consciousness level. Until we stop doing that there will be misery in this world.
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EmileZ:
Why should people suffer for our stupidity, ignorance, indifference and greed?
I believe this is a more accurate question. We can conquer all these problems with a change in values.
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squarethecircle:
OK, I don't think "these" was so bad, but whatever.
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EmileZ:
changes the meaning though, yes?
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too many people live on land which isn't productive enough to feed them year on year. Simply feeding them every time the rains don't come isn't going to solve anything.
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trut:
They need seeds. We need to green the deserts with Permaculture.
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JanforGore:
Permaculture could provide an alternative, but has there been full scale research?
Growing food sustainably using permaculture techniques in these areas is still new but might prove to be a good solution.You may find this interesting.
http://www.neverendingfood.org/about/ - 11 months ago
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http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/news/article.cfm?id=5438&cat=field-news
How do we do it? How do we sit so silently in the face of such adversity in this world? I find it harder and harder to understand this.
"Extremely High Malnutrition Rates
At the beginning of June 2011, a new reception center was established in Dagahaley, to be managed by the Kenyan authorities and the United Nations’s agency for refugees (UNHCR), with the aim of improving assistance for new arrivals.
Every day, an MSF team assessed the health of people arriving at the center. Teams carried out systematic nutritional screenings of children five years of age and younger with the use of the MUAC, a tool that measures a child’s middle upper arm circumference. The team found alarming malnutrition rates, so decided to conduct a rapid nutritional assessment in the area in mid-June. The results of the assessment exceeded the team’s worst fears.
A mixture of extreme heat, a lack of water and sanitation, and delays in the registration of new arrivals—which in turn delays the provision of food rations—have resulted in extremely difficult living conditions for new arrivals. During the three-day rapid nutritional assessment, the MSF team measured and weighed some 500 children between six months and five years old. As many as 37.7 percent of the children were suffering from global acute malnutrition; of these, 17.5 percent were severely malnourished and at high risk of death. Children up to 10 years old were also showing elevated rates of malnutrition.
“There is a high level of malnutrition. We are extremely concerned," said Monica Rull, head of MSF projects in Kenya and Somalia.
"I expected to find a difficult situation, but not a catastrophic one," said Anita Sackl, coordinator of the nutritional assessment. "The majority of new arrivals actually fled [Somalia] because they had nothing to eat—not just because their country has been at war for decades.”
Because of these worrying results, MSF is now including children older than five in their nutritional programs in Dagahaley camp.
Humanitarian Aid Too Slow
The ongoing delay in providing humanitarian aid is deeply problematic. The refugees must wait 40 days before being officially registered by the UNHCR and receiving a card entitling them to the regular food distributions. During those 40 days, they received intermittent food rations and a five-liter plastic container for water."
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WAIT 40 DAYS to get a card for regular food distributions while people die. - 11 months ago
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JanforGore:
I read today that children where left to die on the side of road on the way to the only refuge camp because they didn't have the strength to go any further. It so sad, so little and too late in aid. What is wrong with the UN. Can't they see just by looking at these people that they are starving? There should be no waiting period. And it looks like they need more refuge camps. Foreign aid always goes to the wrong places or the corrupt govenment getting the aid diverts it to those that don't need it. We need a better system in distributing aid.
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northernexpat:
I agree. I have always thought that there are things the UN does that have been good, UNICEF and their tree planting initiative come to mind. But lately, I have been losing respect. That's why when I donate it is only to Doctors Without Borders
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northernexpat:
What is wrong with us all?
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In a world of biodistress there is no way we can continue to use the resources we are at the pace we are using them. We simply cannot replenish what we are taking in time enough to deal with the fallout as the frequency of these events along with the scope increases. For example, what if this were the Southeast US and the same conditions existed for the same time period with such drought occuring every two years instead of just say every 10 and the land was declared uninhabitable? Where would all of those people go? This is the one facet of climate negotiations and summits that has always been left out. Planning for the millions of people who will have to leave their homes in search of food, water and shelter. This is now our reality. And it isn't just happening in Somalia.
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JanforGore:
This will be happening in Arizona, New Mexico, West Texas and So. Cal. and very soon. Since I moved to LA the weather patterns have changed dramatically in the past 12 years. With our employment problems, the fact that we have 25% unemployment, the UN won't be able to count on Americans charity the way they used to. We can't even hang on to our own homes, much less feed other kids. And I don't see the Koch Bros. putting THEIR fortune forward to help.
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Dusty_King:
It is not just in the States. Canada is either in a drought or flood. The fields in the Prairie Provinces flooded in late spring ruining this year's crops. Soon we won't be able to afford to buy food. I've lived in the Canadian Arctic for 34 years and our weather has also changed drastically in the last 10 years. This week we have been in the high 90s all week, our normal temperature for this time of year is suppose to be in the mid-seventies. With 15-20 hours of sunlight this time of year, that kind of heat is drying out our timber and we are becoming a high fire risk. I could go on and on about the impact global climate change has had on the Arctic but it would take too long. The sad thing is there isn't a government in the world that really cares. Pretty soon it will be too late to stop this.
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northernexpat:
Humanity definitely has a reality problem. Is it actually fatigue? I mean have we been through so much that to comprehend this is just something our collective minds are shutting out? I just cannot fathom it. This is about our survival and it is treated as though we can put this off to tomorrow and then tomorrow and then.... It is insanity.
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Dusty_King:
The patterns have changed here as well and it has been noticeable to those paying attention.... which unfortunately isn't as much in number as those that haven't been.
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JanforGore:
I believe it about money. Oil companies are all about profit rather than the environment and they have too much influence on politicians around the world. Those in power today do not think mother nature will hit back before they have left this world. Unfortunately, I think it is coming faster than they realize.
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northernexpat:
Yes, their day of reckoning is coming.
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Dusty_King:
^+ 'd
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Wetdog