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$14.00 + $9.00 + $4.00 Per Gallon of GAS ! And Rising !

Jan For Gore has linked us to studies revealing that the side effect costs to society of carbon dioxide release in the U.S., currently add about $9.00 to each gallon of gas we each use. This is in addition to one estimate of $14.00 added to each gallon of gas we consume when factoring in what we each pay for in the military costs to provide Big Oil with constant access to cheap crude oil. However, others have estimated our military cost to provide Big Oil with crude to be much higher. These secondary costs must be factored in to the total cost of relying on fossil fuels to run our cars, when comparing the projected costs of alternative energy. We can afford a great deal of alternative, clean, and sustainable energy research and development for what we all pay for gas now!

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42 comments // $27.00 Per Gallon of GAS ! And Rising !

  • Warren_Merrill
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • Valence
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      Valence  
    • I'm still kinda sorta on the edge with the whole alternative fuel thing, what other alternative energy is able to do what Gas does and put out as much a Gas is able to...?

      Atom Combustion (like in Wall Street with shila labeouf) to create a more power energy seems like a good idea but how reliable is it? I mean look at Japan one of the most advanced countries of the world, their still using Gas and Nuclear plants.

      Meh, we could just all walk.

    • 10 months ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • Valence:

      Even in Japan, Valence, one must keep in mind the influence that Big Oil has on governments worldwide, in the suppression of alternative fuel development for the past 50 years. I wonder how many oil companies also invest in nuclear. Your point about oil also points to the problem with fossil fuel, it also puts out unacceptable levels of CO2, wrecking the hell out of our weather patterns...

    • 10 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
  • squarethecircle
  • squarethecircle
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • squarethecircle:

      10 or 12, maybe 15. or 20. I don't have an exact count. I fixed a couple of Tesla's systems in 2007. One is a lightning drive for space travel, ships, and also does anti-gravity in our gravity. Two systems of ocean energy, one from Tesla's last papers. I released some of em long ago but held back the best ones.

      The Ezekiel Engine is the best one imho because it only has 3 moving parts and could fly through R & D and be in mass production the fastest. But don't sweat it. They already have some very good engines. The Mighty Engine is the Champ right now, by Raphial Morgado, videos aplenty on YouTube.

    • 10 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • squarethecircle:

      I had some real good ideas when I was young but someone always put me down, usually an aunt or Mom. I was always a "Mr. Fix-It". Even came up with a great business idea we could've started a cottage industry in our basement, when I was about 12 or 13. But she said no. A neighbor living a mile away did it and their family did quite well.

      This was my life from the beginning so I'm quite used to it. You have to laugh. But, my wife and children got short-sheeted by it so I don't laugh.

      It is a situation that will be changed before long. Hatred shown me will die, if not by Jesus then by their own hand... as you observe already happening in the world. Their greed to stomp me is a chicken you know, coming home to roost.

      My family is long gone so it's no skin off my nose. I forgot any ideas of "succeeding" ages ago. I tossed a few engine systems out there to see if the worms were still around the rock. They were.

      HAHAHAHAHA

    • 10 months ago
  • squarethecircle
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • squarethecircle:

      Naw. Nah. I belong on the Ponderosa with Hoss and Little Joe, and Adam and Pa. Or in a cowboy town with Gene Barry or Barry Sullivan. William Smith.

      I'll be freed of all these engine designs soon as I have the next dementia hit me. Be like a hard drive being wiped, and I be free then. Soon as I get out in the heat that'll be it. Last year it was caused 3 times. After I'm in the heat a while, and my metabolic doesn't work to cool me, after a while the hypoxia hits my brain, circulation stops and the rebound Cooling kicks in full thrusters. I then my friend I SHALL WALK A FREE MAN. I reckon you can tell I'm looking forward to it with great anticipation. Free at Last, thank God, free at last.

      Everything goes with me. I haven't written anything down but the ones I released. So as Dennis Weaver as Officer McCloud used ta say => THERE YA GO. And as the preacher said => ALL IS VANITY.

    • 10 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • squarethecircle:

      Back in 1986 I stepped off the back of a extra high truck bed and landed on my side in Newport News. A prescription for tennis elbow, the druggist left off all the warnings about it making ya high as a kite. The concussion was so bad it ripped the middle of my brain. To remember all this junk I've figured out I have to stay with it every day or it would slip away.

      I'm tired of doing that. Looks like old Obama is gonna turn out to be my best friend soon. I think I'll move my important stuff into storage and drive north, maybe reach some cooler air and avoid that outcome.

    • 10 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • Gravity_Man:

      Actually, the brain scan in 2005 that semi-fried all through my brain, I think that's what destroyed my temperature regulation. The concussions were just the warmups. But then there was the two strokes too, and the 245/140+ blood pressure that lasted 3 years.

      hehehehehehehe No worse than playing football w/out a helmet. Oh boy, I'm getting excited. I get my brain back, all mine, no more engines.

      Hmm. No more Obama. Wow. I could get into this.

    • 10 months ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • squarethecircle
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      squarethecircle  
    • you use more energy just purchasing a new hybrid than if you used any old beater that has already been built for the next 16 years. was the car buy back for positive energy gain or so rebounding car companies could have a gov't sponsored bailout? Oh wait they already got that as well. If we want green industry we have to do it our self and lose these walls causing "confusion and delay" Carlin, Thomas the Train

    • 10 months ago
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  • alexandrek
  • oldbanjo
  • totally_dilapidated
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      totally_dilapidated  
    • that 'gas reality cost' is hilarious
      the funny is
      you all still think there can and still be a recovery if everyone realizes it

      realize this:
      physics concept of inertia
      390 parts per million of carbon in the atmosphere, now
      and still rising... rapidly
      plus
      methane hydrates

      get the joke yet?

    • 10 months ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • BearBro
  • totally_dilapidated
  • totally_dilapidated
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • totally_dilapidated:

      you're behaving like an ass. does that mean that you are ready for someone to pull out your ass plug? what makes you think that we'll believe that your study, with your conclusion, is any more reliable than all of the other mutually conflicting "studies" thrown around? The earth is alive right now, and it can be improved right now, and we are speaking about the what and how, right now. don't bother enlightening me further, i have my own Kool Aid if i want to be a drinker of it.

    • 10 months ago
  • totally_dilapidated
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      totally_dilapidated  
    • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM:

      interesting how you lose the plot and fall into character assassination
      a classic bastion of the stupid
      didn't know you were until now Common Sense
      are you a stand-up satirist with that handle?

      so
      you say, "my study"
      i do not have a study
      i read what climate science produces

      are you aware of the counter-culture movement of the 60's?
      everyone talked about environmental issues on the street and
      in the university classroom

      Slient Spring : Rachel Carson
      was de rigueur reading
      the chant was zero population growth
      Al Gore got his first news on carbon in the atmosphere around 1970 in the classroom
      electric cars were being produced
      a whole electric car infrastructure was ready in California by the mid-70's

      then
      the plug was pulled on the study and the momentum
      40 years later
      we have YOU

      *mutters dm fk while leaving the room

    • 10 months ago
  • BearBro
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      BearBro  
    • totally_dilapidated:

      Only way to prove you wrong is to try and succeed. Whereas if we do nothing it became a self-fulfilling prophesy. Agree you may be right. In fact you are probably right, and if clathrates start bobbing to the surface in significant mass, it's game over. BUT the system is large enough, complex enough, and chaotic enough that there are probably factors we don't know about yet, and if some of those are working in our favor we may not have reached the tipping point yet. In any event, how are we worse off if we try than if we don't?

      "Once upon a time two frogs were trapped in a crock of milk. The first one realized the situation was hopeless, gave up and drowned. The second continued to struggle, to swim, to kick until he churned up an island of butter, where he rested until the milk maid found him and threw him out."

      Doing nothing probably means ecological disruptions, at least a billion refugees, famine and disease. Maybe things would stabilize for a century or two after a third of the human population died, maybe not. For myself, I'd rather die trying than give up and die.

    • 10 months ago
  • totally_dilapidated
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      totally_dilapidated  
    • BearBro:

      well, the lead to interpret doing nothing is there
      but
      i do not mean do nothing

      i am suggesting
      by laughing at the "cost of this problem"
      that there is a comically gross and inane waste of resource and
      matter taking place when the matter is otherwise

      (the matter being otherwise is my interpretation)

      the current financial break-down for humanity being reduced to the
      cost of a gallon of gas?
      does that even make sense to you?
      i laugh in gallows humor
      i point it out

      if you like
      i have hordes and gangs and gobs of suggestion to what does matter
      and
      what would not be a waste of time and resource

      but then, that's my interpretation
      and there ya go
      you would have to be so interested...

    • 10 months ago
  • BearBro
  • totally_dilapidated
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      totally_dilapidated  
    • BearBro:

      out of frustration about global climate change
      i am reduced to derision on waste of time theatrics
      my precedent for being public about the frustration is verified here:

      - On the 41st Annual Earth Day (April 22), an international group of renowned climate scientists held a press conference. The group of climatologists are members of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

      The spokesperson highlighted pertinent research regarding global warming, covering rising sea levels, mass extinctions, and world epidemics with a seemingly apathetic and monotonous tone.

      Towards the end of the review summarizing the basic scientific ideas behind the theory, the climatologist explaining the material began to mumble and, eventually, walked out of the room while swearing passive-aggressively and declaring he would no longer waste his breath. -

      me? i'm not out of breath... yet

    • 10 months ago
  • JanforGore
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      JanforGore  
    • We have been deceived for years by the corporations that profit from lying and polluting and by our own government/military/industrial complex that continues to cover for them. Don't wonder why nothing has been done regarding climate change/biodistress by this government. (How many BP execs went to jail for what happened in the Gulf?) If it isn't lucrative enough for them, it isn't considered important. We should have been transitioning two decades ago in order to be able to deal with the sh**t storm that is now upon us, and we could have been. The solutions have been here the entire time. As our planet now moves faster into a phase where extreme events become more frequent we will indeed pay the price for our trust and our apathy. The cost of prevention and preservation of the biospheres we depend on for life will be minute in dollar amount compared to what we will and are already losing.

      One in this thread already asked, and the immediate alternative to fossil fuel is... You should know that answer already. It's you. Where the hell are the American people in standing up loudly against the goons on all sides who are running us into ground? I just posted a report regarding Arctic ice melt in which scientists expect the Arctic to be ice free in summer now in as little as 19 years.That's IMPORTANT. Can we transition to a clean energy econony in that time while we continue to emit the same or more? Will it even matter much now? Hmm, I don't know. Maybe after we get beyond our obsession with all of the useless crap people are talking about and the media distractions and really take a good hard look at our absolutely selfish, self absorbed, gluttonous lifestyles and our relentless falling for the words of politicians who want us to think they care when they are just playing the game and actually acting on them. But I fear the time it will take for that to occur will render this planet uninhabitable for our children and theirs.

      Thanks for posting this anyway. At least it got higher with your title.

    • 10 months ago
  • northernexpat
  • Margles
  • DeistofSurreal
  • WagonMaster
  • lordsbassman
  • squarethecircle
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      squarethecircle  
    • WagonMaster:

      solar, wind, micro-hydro, geothermal, magnetic or GravityMan, but mostly decentralizing production to smaller scale so people can use what they have. More power is lost in our current production and distribution than is consumed for all the coal burned and chances taken with nuclear tech. We do everything wastefully and without consideration

    • 10 months ago
  • Gravity_Man
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      Gravity_Man  
    • squarethecircle:

      HEY! WATCHIT! I jus' had a brainstorm, a brainstorm here => GEOTHERMAL IN EVERYBODY'S YARD. Make a tranparent enclosure -plastic or glass with black panels inside filled with circulating liquid- that carries the solar heat into the ground, cools it then back up, with a generator in the circle.

      Put a one-way heart valve in there so the fluid circulates only the one direction get down!!!! California Dreamin' I reckon.

      Dang. And all this great heat going ta waste too!!! Blast.

    • 10 months ago
  • squarethecircle
  • Gravity_Man
  • Gravity_Man
  • Gravity_Man
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