Norwegian Terrorist Got His Weapons from the United States

"slavery is the game" damn strait and acording to your little ditty We sould not rise violently against it because we might get some people killed. I call BS on your hypothosis people aint dieing because of revolutionaries they are dieing because this is a chitty world and if anything is ever gonna change then somebody might have to die. I wish it could just be me but thats not the reality now is it?

You talk of overthrowing power with violence as your tool
You speak of liberation and when the people rule
Well ain't it people rule right now, what difference would there be?
Just another set of bigots with their rifle-sights on me

Che is a great example of what comes out of violent revolutions. Or the movie animal farm. about the communist revolution. anarchy does not have to be associated with revolution

I am for tighter gun control and enforcement of laws already on the books-and I thought the same thing you did when I saw this

it is philosophical.

if this is the case,that we are the bad guy, then so is every person who has ever sold a gun wich killed some one.

i dont agree with this.but it is the left position on this

Fuck that Im a Lefty liberal and I dont buy that shit. Its the opinion of those afraid of learning the propper way to handle a tool. but then my sollution has never been banning but stringent lisencing and training on how to safly use a tool that is deadly to unintended targets if not handle properly. like i say below a killer is a killer they will find other meens to kill with even if we deprive all the law abiding citizens of their guns.

im a lefty too, but the bigger lefty position isnt the one we share.

yes guns are a tool, making it the users burden.but the bigger left position seems to be that guns are a tool with only one purpose wich is to kill.and that is the focus of the narrative about guns then.

im with ya, just sharing devils advocate positions

I consider myself a "lefty." I am the flaming tree hugger at work...just ask my co-workers. I do however believe in the right of people to own guns.
I don't believe it is the US's responsibility to police the world or the people in it, as is so many times the case.
I do believe a killer will kill and they will find a way to do it, from guns to explosives, if one wants to kill people, they will find a way to do it.

i agree with regulation as the answer.but doesnt regulating in action place responsability on the distributor, there fore when a killing occurs a degree of blame?
if responsability and blame have a cause and effect relationship, the lefts position is placing a focus of error on the distribution of guns.

dont get me wrong.cuz the right wing position on this is even more rediculous as it is actualy anarchy.that whole sell weapons what ever they may be as one would sell bottled water.complete with ammo vending machines in bar bathrooms next to the condoms.

I'm one of the few leftists I know of who's armed BETTER than most of the right wingers I know and shoot with.

I'd also like to point out that the Assault Weapons Ban of 1993 didn't ban the sale or ownership of high-cap magazines. After Congresswoman Giffords was shot, it was oft repeated that "The AWB that had been allowed to expire banned high capacity magazines." IT DID NO SUCH THING.

It banned the importation or manufacture of magazines that held more than ten rounds, but they were still available for sale at the expiration of the AWB, from stockpiles that had been amassed before the AWB passed. The law stipulated specifically that magazines could be assembled and rebuilt from existing parts, and then left a long window of opportunity for manufacturers to continue building and stockpiling parts. I'm almost postitive that it even had a stipulation that said a manufacturer could create more parts on his tooling AFTER the ban, if said maker could prove he'd have to take a $$$$ loss otherwise.

Pretty much the only change that the AWB had on magazine ownership was that if you bought a new rifle, it came with a magazine that held no more than ten rounds. It was always legal to purchase "Pre-ban" high-cap magazines and use them in "post-ban" rifles.

If the law had any effect on the high cap magazine market, it made them more expensive. I'm not sure why this is an effect that people who claim to be defenders of the weak and poor would advocate for though.

I agree Budda2112, but let's not let logic get in the way of those to wish to use a horrible tragedy to grandstand and further their own political agenda.

With the logic that most gun control advocates use, we can argue that fertilizer should be banned too, since people were killed by a car bomb made from fertilizer.

And while we're at it, people can be killed, and are occasionally killed intentionally by automobiles, so should we ban automobiles too?

I don't think we should really ban anything... Especially on a federal level. It never prevents anything, it never helps... It only punishes those who use it in legal ways. But individual states still have the right to form laws about anything not in the constitution... Which technically throws gun control out the window...

And yes, it is quite silly... Cars kill more people than almost anything else, yet there's no outrage about that. And of course, we could throw Marijuana into the debate, but nobody really listens when you compare the ludicrous nature of bans and their actuality.

It's as simple as this: If you don't like something: don't buy it/support it/use it. You can't tell someone else who has a legitimate reason (which is as simple as "because they can") to buy it/support it/use it.

I can't believe that people actually care about WHERE he got his weapon from. It doesn't matter where... He killed people... HE killed people... HE DID, the man, with the weapon... and his accomplice(s). People have the ability to choose, objects do not.

Yup Im afraid this KT organization is real and it goes way up the global leadership food chain. I dont think any of these things will come to light and it scares the shit out of me.

Excellent questions.