UNFORGIVEABLE: Fire Destroys WI Recall PAC Headquarters
source: http://foxpoint.patch.com/articles/fire-destroys-offices-of-group-active-in-wisconsin-recall...
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We Are Wisconsin's La Crosse headquarters a 'total loss' after Saturday morning blaze.
By Mark Maley
July 30, 2011
Fire officials in La Crosse are continuing to investigate a Saturday blaze that destroyed the regional offices of We Are Wisconsin, a union political action committee (PAC) that has pumped millions of dollars into supporting Democratic candidates in the upcoming recall elections.
The La Crosse Tribune reports that the cause of the fire, which started at about 9:30 a.m., remains unknown. Firefighters thought they had the blaze under control in the afternoon, however, that wasn't the case and it continued into the evening, the newspaper reported.
We Are Wisconsin used the building at 432 Jay St. to oversee its efforts in the 32nd Senate District recall election, which will be held Aug. 9. Incumbent Republican state Sen. Dan Kapanke is being challenged by Democratic state Rep. Jennifer Shilling in that district.
A spokesman for the group told the La Crosse Tribune that the group's office was a total loss.
We Are Wisconsin is a political action committee made up by a coalition of unions that has spent more than $2 million supporting Democratic recall candidates around Wisconsin, according to the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign.
In the 32nd District, the group has spent about $400,000 to get Shilling elected, the La Crosse Tribune reported.
The group is also active in the 8th Senate District recall race between incumbent Republican Alberta Darling and Democratic challenger Sandy Pasch. In that Milwaukee-area race, We Are Wisconsin has spent at least $570,000 on pro-Pasch ads.
Throughout the day Saturday, those active in the recall effort were taking to Twitter and calling the fire "suspicious" since it occurred just 10 days before the recall. However, fire officials haven't yet determined the cause of the blaze, according to local media reports.
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I guess the ground war in the Class War has started. Maybe the apathetic ones will wake up now, and smell the burning. They will be coming for you next. The bastards on top are not going to let up. This shit is as serious as a heart attack. The political/corporate alliance has their guns trained on us, and the Koch puppet-masters are pulling their strings. Yesterday’s so-called budget “compromise” has left the door wide open for tremendous cuts. The “super-committee” that is part of that plan will have unlimited power to do as they wish. We have now delegated government authority to a “star chamber”.
This “push back” in Wisconsin which has denigrated into the sabotage of a political office is a sign that we had all better ratchet things up a notch ourselves. It’s time to motivate yourselves and others, as this is not going to be easy. They are trying to goad us into doing something stupid so that the police state can spring into action. Don’t fall for it, keep your heads, and get politically active.
http://current.com/community/93373475_actor-danny-glover-to-receive-the-debs-awa... - 10 months ago
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VoyagerFilms
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Ya, you can bet it's a suspicious fire!
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Where is Homeland Security? Are we waisting our money on a department, which cannot solve a crime of homegrown terrorist?
This is no surprise, other than the criminal has not been caught. One would think with people being gropped at airports, they could find the criminal who set the fire at the Wisconsin Recall PAC Headquarters? What's up with that? Do they even want to find the criminal?
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Conniepae:
No. Just like the "magic bullet."
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Wow what a surprise
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artemis6
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Excellent post , i have nothing to add that has not already been stated .
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Why does this feel like Berlin in the 30's?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j_TDoOPnIA
John Coltrane & co playing "Alabama", a piece inspired by the 16th Street Baptist churh bombing in Alabama.
In the early morning of Sunday, September 15, 1963, Bobby Frank Cherry, Thomas Blanton, Herman Frank Cash, and Robert Chambliss, members of United Klans of America, a Ku Klux Klan group, planted a box of dynamite with a time delay under the steps of the church, near the basement. At about 10:22 a.m., twenty-six children were walking into the basement assembly room to prepare for the sermon entitled “The Love That Forgives,” when the bomb exploded. Four girls, Addie Mae Collins (aged 14), Denise McNair (aged 11), Carole Robertson (aged 14), and Cynthia Wesley (aged 14), were killed in the attack, and 22 additional people were injured, one of whom was Addie Mae Collins' younger sister, Sarah. The explosion blew a hole in the church's rear wall, destroyed the back steps and all but one stained-glass window, which showed Christ leading a group of little children.
Unforgivable.
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EmileZ [removed]
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Vote me down if you must, but all these Reichdlkjdhacht comments with the white fist on the flag.
Anyhow, the U.S. has a shameful record as far as democratic and labor movements go (if you can forget about slavery and genocide).
C'mon people!!!
P.S. I know the fist and what it currently stands for is innocent of all these misdeeds.
We have to learn about and face up to our history. Arson isn't just a european facist of long ago phenomenon. In fact it is quite tame.
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John_Fargo
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from Reichskristallnacht to Walkerfeuernacht
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nanac
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It is extremely obvious that arson is the cause for the destruction of the PAC Headquarters. Investigators don't have to look very hard to find the cause of the fire, because dirty politics are alive and well in Wisconsin. Motive leads directly to the Governor's doorsteps, and the Republican Party.
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nanac
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nanac:
That's correct, nanac.
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Leen61
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Persecuted
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unbelievable
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Leen61
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I just watched my local news and to hear the story, you wouldn't know there was any major impact on the recalls because of this. One Wisconsin's key role in the recall effort was not even metioned. The white wash begins.
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Leen61
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Incredulous
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If people haven't figured out by now that this is how corporate and Koch-backed candidates get things done, they never will.
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Incredulous
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Simone_Castillo
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OMG! If it smells like arson, it's arson.
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cherry5000
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i wouldn't be surprise if walker hire goons to do his dirty work.
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cherry5000:
Very Rovian.
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alexandrek:
they were just boiling tea
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How convenient .....Just like when WTC building # 7 dropped( at free fall speed) losing all the court cases,records and documents against Enron and World com.
Right out of the ,Karl Rove play book....Actually ...I can't believe they'd be dumb enough to allow this place to stay unprotected ..they just learned a hard lesson in political warfare....to the dirtiest cheaters goes the trophy ! - 10 months ago
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xhuffpo
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We do outnumber the ones with money, the rich and their minion, if they want a war we can give it to them.
I do not advocate any violence, I have seen too much of that and know the it's benefits are very short term. We must wage war at the ballot box.
When the other side is afraid enough to do this act, and I am certain it is an act of a coward, not a coffee pot left on, someone who is afraid of the change that will happen in WI with this vote and what it represents for the nation as a whole, a turn from the right and greed of the republicans.
THE PEOPLES VOICE CANNOT BE SILENCED, OUR VOICES WILL BE HEARD. - 10 months ago
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TrishR
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Can you say Reischtag?
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tlbuffin:
Excellent post,tl. This is so discouraging. I'm just sick about this.
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tlbuffin:
I would love to believe that but look at W, Cheney, Rummy, Rice, Gonzo, etc. It seems the bad people never go to prison anymore.
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tlbuffin:
I hope you're not dreaming, either.
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tlbuffin:
Yes but Blago was a Democrat. All the difference in the world.
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Leen61:
Don't count an anything until the fat lady sings Remember the chad
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nanac
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tlbuffin:
Magnificent post!
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nanac
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cmc101:
I'm not counting on anything, cmc101.
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tlbuffin:
Dream on, friend. Blago was/is a Dem.
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The Riechstag fire comes to mind, and Hitler said that it was the communists that started it even though they had a larger majority than the Nazi party.
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tlbuffin:
voted/\ so right on!!!
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Nothing like playing dirty to get what ya want. He is going to do whatever he has to do to stay in power. I sure hope somebody had the smarts to save it all on a remote harddrive somewhere.
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Of course it's suspicious. The Republicans there have shown they are willing to do anything to deny democracy to the citizens. From contemplating inserting bad seeds at ralliees to incite violience, up to running fake candidates on the Democratic ticket. Looks like the Revolution will be started in WI.
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demsbeans527:
I may need to move there
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This reads exactly like a mob arson.
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NiceN:
Didn't Murdock use criminals to do his dirty work?????????? Sounds like someone is using the same play book!!!!
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There is no way this is a coincidence. This is how those Brown Shirts started the crap in Germany in the 1930's.
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gypsysailor:
Sad, but true. it starts with trying to discredit a group, then vandalism and then violence.
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gypsysailor:
The U.S. has a pretty fucked up history as well.
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To me it looks like the Republican's in Wisconsin are scare of being recalled and they will go to extremes to get re-elected!! This don't look like Demorcracy, it looks like a WAR zone in Wisconsin!!!!!
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Georgia_Jim:
Thats just what it is a War. A war againest the people of the United States
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Hmmmmm...strange.
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Why would people bomb their own place? Hmmm maybe in bizzarro world where you live that might be possible. I also bet the eco-activists are also in your world. All I can say uni-brow is you better double your dose before the voices finally take over.
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@#*@#&^$@)(#$&*)^^)&*^#@!_(*&$# BROIWNSHIRTS!
Yep, fascism is coming wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. I weep for the nation we have lost. I grieve democracy's demise by those who have questioned the patriotism of the left.
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attilatheblond:
We grieve the loss of the republic to the efforts to create a democracy. I'm not going to comment on any patriotism of the left.
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Paratus:
patratus
you come in here and drop these troll comments and leave, you act as if you are a coward. I think nothing more than that of you and believe you do not deserve respect until you can begin to contribute and become part of the solution.
It is obvious that you would rather spout troll lines and not defend them then actually defend your position.
I served my country honorably and I am a patriot. I am on the left and proudly so. I will not stand for taking food and medicine or the means to acquire them from those that need them, simply to allow myself to have more. Selfishness and greed of those on the far right are not patriotic motives.
Ten years of Bush tax cuts and we lost 500,000 jobs. The lie of tax cuts spur the economy has been proven several times. The wealthy are not patriots when the only motivation is to make a greater profit with no regard to what is happening to their fellow Americans. - 10 months ago
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tlbuffin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZcs1SHVbz0
You reminded me of this. Anyone that never saw this, this is great Disney propaganda. There is nothing more fun than watching Donald Duck "Heil Hitler"
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tlbuffin:
I am not a fan of Walt, the man either. He also hated jews and was a racist. Supposedly that story about his body being frozen is not true but who knows. He had more money than God. He may be one of the fabled Hollywood undead. ;)
But some of the wartime Disney films were just exquisite. Warner Brothers too. The racism against the Japanese is unbelievable.
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xhuffpo:
go X! ^^^
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UPDATE: More complete reporting here...
http://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/article_b5828580-bacf-11e0-a78e-001cc4c002...
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TheAmbivalante:
nice bit of reporting
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TheAmbivalante:
Thanks for this update, Timothy. I will see if this is on my local news tonight.
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same old tactics are all too obvious
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Jesus, mafia tactics, tea baggers, really? The fire officials and law enforcement are union. They are going to get to the bottom of this, you idiots. Enjoy prison.
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EdJoyProductions:
Well, so far, no one has been gunned down in the streets so it's just a tinsy bit short of "mafia tactics".
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Almibry:
The mafia (who I have been told does not exist by members) actually tries to avoid that whole gunning down in the streets thing these days. But insurance and intimidations fires are still popular among the guys that say, "you didn't see nothin'"
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letsliveinpeace
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Good article!
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letsliveinpeace:
Thank you. Walker is trying to turn Wisconsin into Kochconsin and it ain't gonna happen as long as all eyes are on these bastards.
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It will be interesting to see how this plays out on a side note. Back in the nineties eco activists in california were car bombed and when the authorities started to investigate they immedietly arrested them and said they bombed themselves....moron authorities....just so noones surprised.
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warman1138:
Yep. When the agents provocetearus couldn't get the activists on the left to commit crimes, they committed crimes on them and blamed them for it. Look for SSDD*
*same shit, different decade.
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attilatheblond:
Amen to that, I feel sorry for Wisconsin because it really sucks here in Ohio.
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You da%$! right UNFORGIVEABLE: This is a act of political terrorism, they are no better than Al-Qaida, they should be place in FEDERAL SUPERMAX PEISON.
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Don't let this be a killing blow. Help the movement recover.
Make phone calls the help elect Democrats to the Wis state senate in the recalls Log onto http://action.wisdems.org/ to volunteer.
Please share - 10 months ago
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Almibry:
TimothyC, would you please add that link to your story so it's more visible?
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Almibry:
Good post, thanks!
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Almibry:
It was up at the top of the image, Al!
http://foxpoint.patch.com/articles/fire-destroys-offices-of-group-active-in-wisc....
Ya know, I've been working with some good friends up in WI and this whole Walker nightmare honestly feels like the only missing to complete the Blitzkrieg feel is the sounds of goosestepping boots marching through the town square. This is just surreal.
I truly respect the good people of Wisconsin for actively and peacefully fighting these corporatist bastards. They have far more patience than me.
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TheAmbivalante:
I still don't see it, but I'm not the brightest person in the world.
+^'d for effort. - 10 months ago
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TheAmbivalante:
The white fist gives me the creeps (especially with your last name), but I know you don't mean it that way T.C.
Peace and love!!!
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TheAmbivalante:
put stars (or stripes or dairy cows) in the white fist to offset those who are not so comfortable with the all white fist.
...just a thought
former wisc farmer, watching from Oregon - 10 months ago
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Well, I think this will just get the people "Fired Up", pun intended.
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FoosMaster:
Perfect!
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jsonline has the story up.
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The silence of the Mainstream Media is defining! I have called them Fascists but I think I can now call them Fascist Nazi's!
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kennymotown:
Too many Nazi Fascists and too many sheep. Too easy for the opposition my friend. They will probably have to be starve them into action. But, then again that didn't work in 1932 Ukraine, where 10 million died, courtesy of Stalin.
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telcod:
True story!
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kennymotown:
Yeah, heard an interview on CBC of the author of "Bloodland," I believe. Does an historical investigation of mass murder and does a dandy job of explaining the limited uses of the term Genocide. Prefers the term, mass killings, and specific numbers to rounding off. Looked it up, "Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin" by Timothy Snyder. Great interview on CBC Radio. Link is http://www.cbc.ca/ideas/episodes/2011/02/01/bloodlands/.
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telcod:
Thanks for the hook up brother!
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telcod:
Hopefully Americans are spoiled enough that we'll throw a collective pissy fit before people start starving.
Edit: I know I sure as hell am. - 10 months ago
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telcod:
sheeple need to grow up and then wake up
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nazi's will do
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figgdimension:
10-4 big buddy!
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People Rise, Fight Fire With Fire!
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM:
Problem is that then the actions will be blamed on Arab terrorists or gays or ecoterrorists or Ebola carrying hamsters or whatever. The spin will always be the evil doers first line of defense. So you gotta go subtle, something personal, something embarrassing, something guerrilla or something gorilla. Disinformation comes to mind. Kinda like the Yes Men with a touch of Anonymous, only on a much larger scale.
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telcod:
A definite valid point, oh great sage!
Although embarrassment hasn't been very effective to date; albeit with a few resignations. A investigative team to match the right's own couldn't hurt.
What do you think the response would be if a few neo Templars randomly went up to the conspirators and dome checked them?
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM:
Embarrassment mixed with fear and touch of comedy and theatrics, but not too much of the latter, cause you do not want to minimize the seriousness. You have to inspire loathing, even some well modulated hate. Our people only have fear and despair at their disposal. Hey, sounds like I got the beginning of a Manifesto here.
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No do not, I repeat do not respond to this cowardly act with a equally cowardly act. The stakes are too high to stoop down to the levels of the alleged attackers.
Plus there is always a chance no attack took place.. Then what ? - 10 months ago
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Richard_Wyatt:
The burning of the Reichstag is looming once again. What then brother?
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telcod:
I totally agree but the difference was the Nazi's already won in Germany. The Reich-stag burning was just a symbolic display of their victory. They have not won anything yet here
and we must turn their negative displayed of violence against them. Otherwise we have no moral high ground to speak of - 10 months ago
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Richard_Wyatt:
"They have not won anything yet here "
Then what was citizens united? Entities that legally CANNOT be motivated by anything but the accumulation of wealth are now, legally, "people". - 10 months ago
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Richard_Wyatt:
Not the way I read it. But, remember brother, the mass graves are willed with those how stood on the the moral high ground. The evil doers love that. It's easier to pick them off. The Nazis were not defeated by peaceful overtures, they were ground into the dirt, kicking and screaming the hole way. It is and never has been about a moral high ground. It comes down to doing the right thing when history spins out of control and rising to the occasion. The fix has been in for a long time. +1^ for a good spirit.
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telcod:
ground to dirt a perfect visual
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Almibry:
this remind you of anything ?
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