Joe Lieberman Says We Need To CUT SOCIAL SECURITY To Pay For Defense
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freehit
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reminds me of a cartoon I've seen
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freehit
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Leen61
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Joe Lieberman.....today's Worst Person in the World!
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Leen61
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EarnestT
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Joe"Elmer Fudd" Lieberman always has been full of sheep dip. Why not cut Lieberman and use we money save to pay Defense. Retire now Elmer and get it over with.
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EarnestT
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TommiGI
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This guy is a lobbyist for Israel. He wants us to have a strong military to serve as a proxy army for Israel. He lobbys to keep the $3B in military aid flowing to Israel. His constituents are dupes.
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TommiGI
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jacksonN
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The man is borderline senile........term limits AND age limits must be implimented in all gov jobs to keep the thinking fresh and with the times.......nothing but outdated good ole boys running the show now!!!!! [and I'm old and retired]
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jacksonN
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jacksonN:
I have felt the same way for quite some time...
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KB723
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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Is he dead yet?
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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KB723
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COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM:
LOL... Sadly No....
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KB723
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jubal
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I said it before and I will say it again...Joe Leiberman needs to retire already. He is a broken record and only loyal to AIPAC.
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jubal
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KB723
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jubal:
Thanks goodness, he will soon go away... I think next year is his last year in office...
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jubal:
Friend speaks my mind. It is time to stop the silent collusion RE: nuclear buildup of the Middle East caused by Israel before we destroy our beautiful planet. It is the duty of the press to inform citizens in order to make democracy work. The work of Sam Nunn and Ted Turner is largely going unnoticed in the media. They are trying their best to nail down nuclear material... suggest you study their website, start here...
http://www.nti.org/c_press/BelferCenter-US-RussiaAssessmentOfNukeTerrorThreat-06...Time to inform the citizenry of the dangers of our continued policies in the Middle East. Our special relationships with Israel makes us a target for terrorism. If the press won't inform you, read what others think @ http://www.aaiusa.org/reports/arab-attitutes-2011
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KurtLewin
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KurtLewin
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I'm just warmin up...
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KurtLewin
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KurtLewin:
best play EVER...Pete Rose goin after a pop fly foul, swept his arm into the pressbox, knockin down all their cameras, accidently on purpose:) I read it would take an act of Congress to put him in the Hall of Fame...I think he should be there on that play alone.
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KurtLewin
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SAINTJULE
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I think old Joe has gone over the edge. The man is seriously demented, in the words of the kids: "this sucks dude"
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SAINTJULE
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Saladin
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This man and the people who vote for him represent everything I hate about America. He was Bush's number one Democrat and he's only gotten worse as time has gone on.
What a despicable asshole.
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Saladin
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SAINTJULE
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Saladin:
Two faced is the polite term. He will smile at you reach around and knife you in the back.
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SAINTJULE
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KB723
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Saladin:
He sure has shown his two Faces...
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p122345 [removed]
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p122345:
What a Bunch of Dicks...
- 10 months ago
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KB723
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WagonMaster
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Joe epitomizes a typical washed-up professional politican grasping at straws to be heard. Nobody has paid the least bit of attention to him after his failed attempt at being a Presidential VP candidate and especially after sponsoring Butt-monkey McCain for pres. Joe's a never-was on his last legs and will say anything for a dime.
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WagonMaster
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Leen61
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What a douchebag!
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Leen61
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PigFarmington
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Just another out of touch white member of the bourgeoisie
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PigFarmington:
Wow, that's such a nice way to call him a fucking sick douchebag bastard.
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Dusty_King
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nashkildare
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Don't mind paying more for social security. Do mind paying more for missiles to go to war.
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nashkildare
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KurtLewin
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nashkildare:
Good question. As our friend Rachel Maddow recently pointed out, we are no longer in the natural war and peace cycle, but a permanent state of war...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#43996455
It has changed our culture, with funds never going to reconstruction phases after a war..e.g. post WWII boom...so our infrastructure is collapsing...why?
We have been dragged into wars in Middle East by Israel.
The Clinton administration produced the longest peacetime economic boom, proving it can be done, AND left us with a surplus...perhaps a virtual Tahir Square is needed? - 10 months ago
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KurtLewin
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nashkildare
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KurtLewin:
I didn't ask a question, but a good post nonetheless. I would add that there have been lots of little wars going on and well I don't mind if those wars just play out. There are other ways to get rid of terrorists than putting boots on the ground. I remember after WWII that we used airplanes to ship goods to the german people. And we also gave candy. CANDY! HERSERY'S CHOCOLATE BARS! THAT'S A WAR I CAN GET BEHIND! I think we're doing that now, but I would like to see some coverage and would like to see more of it.
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nashkildare
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alexsmith01
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usa does need to do less out of usa but the UN needs to step up and do a lot more. and they must change there rules to do so. usa is not the world police if we where we should be stopping a lot of what is going on now. we do need police however what we are doing all over the world cost us too much and should be done by UN with troops from all over the world.
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alexsmith01
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alexsmith01:
I agree.... =)
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KB723
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alexsmith01
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i am for it. the truth is we must do things like that if we want to cut the debt. or up taxes to everyone a tonnn more. taxing the rich when they are already the most taxed is not fair. they use less of the social services and it is not fair to charge them more for using less just because they have more. these social services where not even how america was setup.
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alexsmith01:
How do you feel about corporations that do not pay taxes? How do you feel about lower income people paying a higher proportion of their income than people with the means to not feel it as much?
I am not rich but I have never used any kind of social service. Is it fair that I should be paying a higher proportion of my income than a very wealthy person?
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Kylee_Darwin
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EdJoyProductions:
Due to the highly progressive nature of federal tax code, you shouldn't be paying more in federal income taxes than what I would refer to as wealthy Americans (unless, or course, you fall into that same category and are just not as wealthy).
I will cite the CBO figures on effective tax data. Being that this refers to effective tax rates, these number are taxes paid *after* all applicable deductions (so multiple mortgage interest deductions for rich Americans with multiple homes and the like are already accounted for with these rates). The effective tax rates provided by the CBO were broken down into quintiles with the top earning quintile paying 25.8% in federal income taxes. The remaining four quintiles from top to bottom paid 17.6%, 14.2%, 10.2%, and 4.3%, respectively. Within the top qunitile, the percentage of taxes paid increased with income, with the top 10% paying 27.6%, the top 5% paying 29.2%, and the top 1% paying 31.6% of their incomes in taxes. These numbers are noticeably higher than any of the rates paid by the aforementioned groups. That's just the nature of the progressive tax structure.
(SOURCE: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/100xx/doc10068/effective_tax_rates_2006.pdf)
If you're paying a higher proportion of your income in federal income taxes than wealthy Americans, then you ought to pay someone to help you file your taxes because you're missing a couple of deductions or something.
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Kylee_Darwin
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Buddha2112
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If only it was a typo... Shouldn't this be the other way around?
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xanthmaster
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Joe, Joe, Joe... for what reason? If you gut SS just to increase the military spending Without closing some of the hundreds and hundreds (last I read, 767) military bases the U.S. maintains outside the U.S., then you are no better than any third world despot who thinks a huge military is the best that can ever happen... Cut defense, bring them home from Iraq (a totally unnecessary war) and Afghanistan (OBL is dead dude)... oh and bring them home from Germany and France and Italy...war has been over 60 years already
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xanthmaster
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xanthmaster:
Lets not forget Korea.... =)
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xanthmaster:
...all true,yet NEVER MENTIONED during debt circus...
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budsnews
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KB723:
Korea is still an active war zone with the UN. The North Koreans still shoot at the South Koreans. That is why we are still there.
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GRC54
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PrivateBurke
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Who are we at war with? Why are we spending so much money on combat with criminals using AK-47's and Soviet-era RPGs?
You know what's a technological advancement over the weapons of guerrilla fighters? Any weapons produced after the Beatles first album.
Oh... and what's really cost effective is not launching a war on an ideal. Countries can be defeated in war, a despondent people with dead relatives just leads to more fighters.
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PrivateBurke
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KB723
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PrivateBurke:
Very well stated PrivateBurke... Nice to see you again... =)
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KB723
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PrivateBurke
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KB723:
Ha thanks. It's been awhile. Trying not to get an aneurysm with how the news has been lately.
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PrivateBurke
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KB723
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PrivateBurke:
So is everyone else, cos it hasn't been the Best News by any means....
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KB723
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tverdell
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Does this include vets on SS?
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tverdell
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KB723
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tverdell:
Good Question...
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KB723
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lazloman
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tverdell:
Hmmmm...
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lazloman
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Lairderg
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Uh, NO! I didn't work hard for wars, and I don't want to live in a military state. Thank you very much.
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Lairderg
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KB723
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Lairderg:
You never know... Both could very well be just down the road...
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KB723
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jackshin
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"bipartisan proposal to secure Social Security over the long term, we hope to have that done in time..sounds like something senator Obama said too
but if they don't oh well, its the thought that counts
"Over the the long term" or in other words congress will propose to think about it later
So, bottom line, we can’t protect these entitlements"
but as for now, lets gut that heifer,
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jackshin
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jackshin:
Is it an entitlement if I paid my hard earned money into it, for the government to steal it to support an already bloated military budget? We have the largest military buget we have EVER had, we spend more on the military than ANY other country, and we have more of our citizens incarcerated, many for non-violent minor crimes, than ANY other country also. This is not the America I was taught about in elementary school. Are we still selling our youth these lies about their homeland? Like anyone can become whatever they want here?
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Jennifer_Guinn:
nope its not entiltement, its a guarantee. Lieberman is a pawn for Israel. But as for as other pukes any thing that has government on it they think it should be dissolved.
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jackshin
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Jennifer_Guinn:
Is it an entitlement when you start getting more out than you put in? The money is not being put into an account accruing interest. You would be better off if you took your SS tax payments along with your employer's contribution and put it in secure investments for forty-five years.
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Warren_Merrill
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Warren_Merrill:
secure investment?...at this point a casino is the most secure investment,and don't forget those fees...monthly maintenence fees for NOT moving you're money.LAME redux of bushies ideas.
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Warren_Merrill:
privatizing social security...really tell that to all the senior citizens who lost their life savings in between 2001 to well now. But they are dead now and wall street traders got their shares for cheap. So everything is balanced out.
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jackshin
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jackshin:
Secure investments are safe. The investor knows the rate of return and length of the term of investment upon purchase.
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Warren_Merrill
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Warren_Merrill:
Anyone who voted down (-3) my statement is financially ignorant. I stated a fact.
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congoboy
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need to cut defense to pay for ss. and i used to like this guy
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congoboy
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congoboy:
Hey, what's up? We finally agree on something... WOW!
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congoboy
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Jennifer_Guinn:
i am sure we agree on more than just this beautiful. the thing that makes me a bit different from many on here is that i wont continue to defend the indefensible.
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congoboy:
Divide and conquer. That is what the tea partiers want to happen to the democrats. I'm really not happy at all with Obama's environmental record, military budget and the fact he is caving on everything, but to me the alternative is worse.
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Jennifer_Guinn:
the tea party isnt too happy with main stream repubs as well. although most tea partiers are of a conservative bent they are really only guilty of pursuing real change from the screwing of america by its leaders both left and right. america has been on a path of self destruction for nearly 30 years lead by both party's. its time for change and living within our means. our forefathers would probably back most tea party ideas. although as with all party's they have their whackos, the main stream press fearing them continues to misportray the movement
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oldbanjo
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Maybe he's going to retire in Israel and wants to be sure the US Military is strong enough to protect his ass.
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oldbanjo:
Israel already has a LIEberman in the cabinet. He's a lying bastard just like the one we have.
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darthmims
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Wow, there is a lot of hatred out there for Ol' Joe today. The sad fact is that he is right, if you cut back everything at the same rate, you risk the security of the country. The only way to make up for it would be to cut back from one of the other areas a little more and from defense a little less. The numbers we are talking about can only come from one of the big three parts of the budget: Social Security, Medicaid/Medicare, and Defense. The Federal government brings in more than enough money every month to cover social security and medicaid/medicare. The problem is that the only way to make a profit from the defense part is to sell weapons to other countries, so we have to pull from the other parts to maintain it. Otherwise, we become warmongers to the world.
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darthmims:
We are the warmongers of the world, what do you think we have been doing the last 70+ years...sending flowers to Fidel Castro and chocolates to Salvador Allende?
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Sarah_Honea
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And Angels will be flying out of my ass with bagpipes and flagons....Sheesh! Does this man have a conscience?
Here is a scary thought: The Souper Con-gress will not be dissolved, even after they manage the draconian cuts they have been pining for. I mean if it work ed for the budget, why not the 14th amendment, or doing away with the Bill of Rights--possibilities are endless, eh?
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maasanova
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Does Liberman really think that Americans are this stupid, or does he say these things to get a laugh out his fellow Zionists?
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maasanova:
Perhaps both...
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KB723
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Pheena187
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Once again we spend all our time, money and technology on weapons and defense. While other countries spend their time, money and technology on advancing their nation. Hence why we are no longer #1 in anything, besides bullshit.
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Pheena187:
Amen!!! =)
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Pheena187:
..on bullshit,we always win the gold...France is always a close second.
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kgMA
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I'd be surprised if Joe didn't end up as one of republicans pick for this bullshit committee, these asshole dreamed up!
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kgMA
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kgMA
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Joe, you are one of the most disgusting politicians in Congress but don't take it to heart, you have many fighting for the same position! Once a scumbag. always a scumbag Joe!
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kgMA
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lattina1
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Cut SS for defense of what?
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Incredulous
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Fuck YOU Joe Leiberman! You are the worst traitor this country has ever known, and lately, you have plenty of competition for that role. Privatization is just another word for theft, only in this case, the theft has already occurred, and privatization ensures that everyone who knows about the theft keeps their mouth shut, and sets up the victims to be forced to pay in even more money, to cover up the theft of their own stolen money.
When are one of these jackasses going to propose that we cut Congressional benefits packages to pay for Defense? And when Leiberman talks about defense, we all know what that means, keep Israel secure on the backs of the aged and infirm in this nation.
These bastards in Congress are who we really need to be defended from. Fuck you Lieberman, put a sock in it before somebody else does it for you. You should be in Guantanamo with Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld and the rest of your traitor associates and friends....and that includes you President Obama. You sold the American people out to the highest bidder. Thanks a lot. We won't forget. Maybe all those supporters pouring money into your campaign fund are grateful, but the "people" of this nation are not, and you can only fool so many people for so long.
"So, bottom line, we can’t protect these entitlements and also have the national defense we need to protect us in a dangerous world while we’re at war with Islamist extremists who attacked us on 9/11 and will be for a long time to come."
No asshole, nobody believes that bullshit anymore. We know damn well that you bastards in government are who we really need protection from, that you stole our Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, and are now, and have been, making up stories to cover your own asses for way too long. You all belong in front of a firing squad, not on a podium bullshitting the American people.
Fuck you Leiberman! May you choke on a fly....a drone fly.
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Incredulous:
Holy Smokes!!! =)
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KB723:
I was holding back....except for the drone fly.
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Incredulous
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Incredulous:
You go , angry bird! :D
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Incredulous:
Good picture! :D
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telcod
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We need to cut Joe Lieberman to pay for Social Security. Then he can go ahead and register as a Lobbyist for Israel. The only enemies are the ones you create.
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telcod
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telcod:
Sadly So telcod...
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telcod
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KB723:
Sad but true? Joe Lieberman is the ball sack of Israel Godless action on our brothers and sisters. And do not forget my adoptive parents were Jewish. May be time to go to ground. And then there is his "flip dick" connection to the insurance industries in his home state.
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telcod
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Sen. Joe Lieberman, who used to be a staunch ally for Medicare and Social Security is now throwing away any pretense that he was once a Democratic politician and would rather help destroy the lives of seniors in America to make sure funds flow to continue endless wars on Pam Geller's favorite target: Radical Islamists. In a new bill that he'll co-sponsor with Conservative Tom Coburn, they plan on helping to weaken one of our most cherished and valued programs, Social Security and send the cash over the the Military. he knows that Social Security is solvent for decades and doesn't add a penny to the deficit which has preoccupied the White House, GOP and the beltway media. It doesn't matter that Americans have said over and over again that they prefer defense spending to be cut, not our social safety nets.
Think Progress:This past April, right-wing war hawk John Bolton suggested during an interview on Fox News that the United States should cut Social Security and Medicare to finance the defense budget.
During debate over the debt deal today on the Senate floor, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) appeared to endorse this call. Lieberman explained that he is working with Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) on a Social Security spending reduction plan and that “we can’t protect these entitlements and also have the national defense…to protect us…with Islamist extremists”:
LIEBERMAN: I want to indicate today to my colleagues that Senator Coburn and I are working again on a bipartisan proposal to secure Social Security over the long term, we hope to have that done in time. To also forward to the special committee for their consideration. So, bottom line, we can’t protect these entitlements and also have the national defense we need to protect us in a dangerous world while we’re at war with Islamist extremists who attacked us on 9/11 and will be for a long time to come.
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letsliveinpeace:
If we have any more cuts, just WTF do we think we are we gonna be defending? Greed? While the wealthy have more than doubled their wealth, we, who have produced it for them have been blamed for their theft of our common wealth. They have lit the fuse, now is the time for us to stick that thing in their faces.
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telcod
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A few things about what he says in that short clip concern me.
He wants to "secure" Social Security by privatizing/cutting it. That is *anything* BUT secure. So, calling BS on him, right (pun intended) out of the gate.
Mr Lieberman working with a Republican (Mr Colburn), is not bi-partisan, no matter what political affiliation Mr Lieberman was using/claiming on that particular day.
He mentions the "Special Committee" a couple of times. I have serious problems with this "Special Committee."
Has anyone heard anything about the life span of the "Special Committee?" Does it go away after the "trigger point" we keep hearing about, or continue to exist? Am I over reacting, or does the "Special Committee" seem to anyone else as a way for the Republicans to circumvent democracy? Since corporations will already own the 6 Republicans (whoever they wind up being), corporations only need to purchase one of the Democrats (if they don't already own one of the ones appointed, whoever they are) and they (corporations) then own the committee. Am I misreading that?
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chew_chew
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SIBob
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What we need to cut is Joe Lieberman, and I don’t mean physically, I mean out of politics. But, that is up to the people of Connecticut. How they can elect this Democratic turncoat, I don’t know. But, we have our own battles to fight here in Staten Island, N.Y. Our own representative, Michael “Stick It To The Seniors and Sick” Grimm makes his own pile of manure.
http://sibob.org/wordpress/ - 10 months ago
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SIBob:
The CT Dems voted him out of the Dem primary in 2006 but he ran under the Party of Joe and coddled the Republican vote. CT Republicans had a sham candidate and they all jumped on board with Joe. Kissing George Bush and palling around with John McCain will do that for you. He is retiring next year because he knows he doesn't have a prayer to get re-elected anyway so he figures he can save himself the embarassment and make up whatever story he wants about himself. You know, "cross party lines", all that bullshit. He is a traitor to the Democrats, no doubt about that.
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Joeydee44
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SIBob
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Joeydee44:
He reminds me of former Mayor Ed Koch in NYC, who likes to call himself a “Democrat with reason”, or something like that. That just means he can justify his traitorous Republican endorsements by his twisted logic. How a guy like Koch who presided over the most corrupt regime since Boss Tweed can pretend to be on the moral high ground is beyond me.
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SIBob
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SIBob:
I have been a City employee since the Koch administration and I have to say, out of all of them, the Koch administration was the least corrupt. I am not saying it was not corrupt at all, but the corruption seemed to be controlled. Dinkins was out of control incompetent. Giuiliani was blindly incompetent but put on a good show while his minions destroyed city services. Bloomy HATES the poor and makes no bones about it with policy, staffing and his City Time debacle will not be the last that we hear about his administration's corruption.
Compared to his successors, Koch was not really a terrible Mayor.
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SIBob:
More like a "democrat with treason"
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SIBob
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EdJoyProductions:
Maybe you remember Stanley Friedman, Donald Manes, the Parking Violations Bureau Scandal, Meade Esposito, etc. I'm not saying that Koch was personally corrupt, but he presided over a general looting of the system. He looked the other way at what must have been obvious to an intelligent man like himself. Some of the operations were going on from an office right down the hall from him. In his desire for an ever greater plurality he prostrated himself in front of the political bosses in the boroughs. A good book on the subject is 'City For Sale' by Wayne Barrett & Jack Newfield. A chief executive should be held responsible for the actions of his administration.
http://www.amazon.com/City-Sale-Koch-Betrayal-York/dp/0060160608 - 10 months ago
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SIBob
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SIBob
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Wyley_Wombat:
You got it.
- 10 months ago
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SIBob
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EdJoyProductions
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SIBob:
Point taken. Yes, a chief executive should be held responsible for the actions of his administration. Too bad that is becoming less the case with every year.
- 10 months ago
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EdJoyProductions
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Joeydee44
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When Joe Liebermann talks about defense he is talking about the defense of Israel. He may live in Connecticut but his true homeland is the Promised Land, and he seems to believe it is America's duty to defend Israel at all cost. When you keep that in mind it is easier to understand the decisions he makes. I like to call him the Senator from Jeruselam. I don't mean that in an anti-Semetic way, it's just where his interests lie. When he was a freshmen senator I admired his courage but he has changed over the years to become part of the establishment he once bucked. He no longer speaks for the CT Democratic Party or the majority of the state's constiuents, only the monied third in Greenwich and Litchfield counties. Don't forget, the only reason he is still a Senator is because he went independent and captured the Republican vote in 2006 after losing the Democratic primary to Ned Lamont. Thankfully he will be gone in a little more than a year, and it won't be a moment too soon.
- 10 months ago
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Joeydee44
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Joeydee44:
He and all his AIPAC pals seem to be focused on sending more money and weapons to Israel. We are talking about a country that has no problem using banned weapons, such as White Phosphorous. Perhaps we could save those billions for our own people instead of being an international welfare agency. Traitor Joe is lower than pond scum in my opinion.
- 10 months ago
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Wyley_Wombat
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freedomsings
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Look just how low Congress has fallen with all the money whores out their
- 10 months ago
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sugarmountian
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This asshole should have been run out of town along time ago.
- 10 months ago
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sugarmountian
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ithink
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He won,t be campaigning for reelection in 2012 but he won,t be gone he is now angling for a high paying job as a lobbyist in dc for privatizing s.s.Witch brings up another thing we need to work.When these guys retire we pay them a real comfortable amount of money and pay 100% of their health costs.They should not be allowed to go back to washington to work against us
- 10 months ago
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ithink
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hodad66
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Eisenhower warned:"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."
- 10 months ago
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hodad66
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Buckeye_Bill
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Republicans and some Democrats are against birth control because that would cut down on the future fodder the warmongers need to fight their wars. Old people can't be sent to fight in wars so they have no use in a Military Industrial Complex world.
Order of Priorities for a Military Industrial Complex Benefactor:
1) Wealth
2) Getting wealth
3) keeping wealth
4) Preventing others from having wealth
5) Wars (best way to make wealth)
6) Encourage others (fodder) to fight in wars
7) WealthOl' Joe must have some stock invested in the MIC.
- 10 months ago
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Buckeye_Bill
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RaceBannon
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Joel Lieberman may be one symbol of austerity ideology but he's certainly not the force behind the thinking. On the contrary it was partly the oppositions card to play using critique, critical mass, and empathy to disseminate the idea that Americas problem lies in the fact that our citizens are sitting like fat cats under a scheme of entitlements at the first mention of the idea by financial interest.
The tea party or whatever emerges is the fault of maybe a laissez faire neo liberal society which tolerates every idiots opinion until they make waves that crash on our own personal self interested shores. Its a society who lost the ideas of the new deal and allowed itself to be caught in the phony culture war. Its a society who gradually hides its leftist critiques and now the source of intellectual discourse, the university is rapidly becoming an expensive trade school at best for upper middle class kids who hope to land a "management position" in finance. As the fundamental elements of what we call liberalism erode it shouldn't come as a surprise that tea parties, right wing terrorist are suddenly emerging, mobilizing and attacking under the banner of populism. Thus these types of political spectacles come as no surprise to this fellow and while its It's certainly not our fault on individual terms but collectively we bought the wrong farm, now we must rethink our next steps. In the society many had hoped for right wing extremism would've have been impossible not because of totalitarian governance but because it would've been ruled out through common consensus of an enlightened society as illogical and/or inhumane.
The truth as we already know is that society and even the earth as we know it are on the ropes, there is a lot of work to be done on many levels the question is still the same: what is to be done and how is to be done?
- 10 months ago
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RaceBannon
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bike10
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I use have respect for Joe but he needs to retire and try living on fixed income.
- 10 months ago
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bike10