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8 Reasons Young Americans Don't Fight Back: How the US Crushed Youth Resistance

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Young Americans—even more so than older Americans—appear to have acquiesced to the idea that the corporatocracy can completely screw them and that they are helpless to do anything about it. A 2010 Gallup poll asked Americans “Do you think the Social Security system will be able to pay you a benefit when you retire?” Among 18- to 34-years-olds, 76 percent of them said no. Yet despite their lack of confidence in the availability of Social Security for them, few have demanded it be shored up by more fairly payroll-taxing the wealthy; most appear resigned to having more money deducted from their paychecks for Social Security, even though they don’t believe it will be around to benefit them.

How exactly has American society subdued young Americans?

1. Student-Loan Debt. Large debt—and the fear it creates—is a pacifying force. There was no tuition at the City University of New York when I attended one of its colleges in the 1970s, a time when tuition at many U.S. public universities was so affordable that it was easy to get a B.A. and even a graduate degree without accruing any student-loan debt. While those days are gone in the United States, public universities continue to be free in the Arab world and are either free or with very low fees in many countries throughout the world. The millions of young Iranians who risked getting shot to protest their disputed 2009 presidential election, the millions of young Egyptians who risked their lives earlier this year to eliminate Mubarak, and the millions of young Americans who demonstrated against the Vietnam War all had in common the absence of pacifying huge student-loan debt.

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2. Psychopathologizing and Medicating Noncompliance. In 1955, Erich Fromm, the then widely respected anti-authoritarian leftist psychoanalyst, wrote, “Today the function of psychiatry, psychology and psychoanalysis threatens to become the tool in the manipulation of man.” Fromm died in 1980, the same year that an increasingly authoritarian America elected Ronald Reagan president, and an increasingly authoritarian American Psychiatric Association added to their diagnostic bible (then the DSM-III) disruptive mental disorders for children and teenagers such as the increasingly popular “oppositional defiant disorder” (ODD). The official symptoms of ODD include “often actively defies or refuses to comply with adult requests or rules,” “often argues with adults,” and “often deliberately does things to annoy other people.”

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3. Schools That Educate for Compliance and Not for Democracy. Upon accepting the New York City Teacher of the Year Award on January 31, 1990, John Taylor Gatto upset many in attendance by stating: “The truth is that schools don’t really teach anything except how to obey orders. This is a great mystery to me because thousands of humane, caring people work in schools as teachers and aides and administrators, but the abstract logic of the institution overwhelms their individual contributions.” A generation ago, the problem of compulsory schooling as a vehicle for an authoritarian society was widely discussed, but as this problem has gotten worse, it is seldom discussed.

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5. Shaming Young People Who Take Education—But Not Their Schooling—Seriously. In a 2006 survey in the United States, it was found that 40 percent of children between first and third grade read every day, but by fourth grade, that rate declined to 29 percent. Despite the anti-educational impact of standard schools, children and their parents are increasingly propagandized to believe that disliking school means disliking learning. That was not always the case in the United States. Mark Twain famously said, “I never let my schooling get in the way of my education.” Toward the end of Twain’s life in 1900, only 6 percent of Americans graduated high school. Today, approximately 85 percent of Americans graduate high school, but this is good enough for Barack Obama who told us in 2009, “And dropping out of high school is no longer an option. It’s not just quitting on yourself, it’s quitting on your country.”

The more schooling Americans get, however, the more politically ignorant they are of America’s ongoing class war, and the more incapable they are of challenging the ruling class. In the 1880s and 1890s, American farmers with little or no schooling created a Populist movement that organized America’s largest-scale working people’s cooperative, formed a People’s Party that received 8 percent of the vote in 1892 presidential election, designed a “subtreasury” plan (that had it been implemented would have allowed easier credit for farmers and broke the power of large banks) and sent 40,000 lecturers across America to articulate it, and evidenced all kinds of sophisticated political ideas, strategies and tactics absent today from America’s well-schooled population. Today, Americans who lack college degrees are increasingly shamed as “losers”; however, Gore Vidal and George Carlin, two of America’s most astute and articulate critics of the corporatocracy, never went to college, and Carlin dropped out of school in the ninth grade.

6. The Normalization of Surveillance. The fear of being surveilled makes a population easier to control. While the National Security Agency (NSA) has received publicity for monitoring American citizen’s email and phone conversations, and while employer surveillance has become increasingly common in the United States, young Americans have become increasingly acquiescent to corporatocracy surveillance because, beginning at a young age, surveillance is routine in their lives. Parents routinely check Web sites for their kid’s latest test grades and completed assignments, and just like employers, are monitoring their children’s computers and Facebook pages. Some parents use the GPS in their children’s cell phones to track their whereabouts, and other parents have video cameras in their homes. Increasingly, I talk with young people who lack the confidence that they can even pull off a party when their parents are out of town, and so how much confidence are they going to have about pulling off a democratic movement below the radar of authorities?

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8. Fundamentalist Religion and Fundamentalist Consumerism. American culture offers young Americans the “choices” of fundamentalist religion and fundamentalist consumerism. All varieties of fundamentalism narrow one’s focus and inhibit critical thinking. While some progressives are fond of calling fundamentalist religion the “opiate of the masses,” they too often neglect the pacifying nature of America’s other major fundamentalism. Fundamentalist consumerism pacifies young Americans in a variety of ways. Fundamentalist consumerism destroys self-reliance, creating people who feel completely dependent on others and who are thus more likely to turn over decision-making power to authorities, the precise mind-set that the ruling elite loves to see. A fundamentalist consumer culture legitimizes advertising, propaganda, and all kinds of manipulations, including lies; and when a society gives legitimacy to lies and manipulativeness, it destroys the capacity of people to trust one another and form democratic movements. Fundamentalist consumerism also promotes self-absorption, which makes it difficult for the solidarity necessary for democratic movements.

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  • mitekillem
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      mitekillem  
    • 9. The Youth are Pacified: Between focusing on graduating college, developing their careers, they also contend with distractions in the form of media. Instantly accessible entertainment such as video games, movies, internet video, porn, etc, they are all pacifiers. Why focus on the problems of the country if they don't effect you? So long as you have the entertainment you care about, and the things you need, what does anything else matter. People are detached from one another. They are apathetic. Unfortunately, the only way to change this, is through education. -I don't mean public schools, I mean talking to people and educating them. Making them confront the problem.

    • 10 months ago
  • Bmad
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      Bmad  
    • If they did get involved en-masse would the major media subsidiaries of the multi-nationals give any substantial coverage? So far they could care less.

    • 10 months ago
  • figgdimension
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      figgdimension  
    • Many young people are working hard across Ohio and Wisconsin to recall re-vote and petition and drives and well activism its non-violent and under reported and supported. Many are disillusioned and apathetic with good reason they are only perfecting what they've learned from us, more you really.. :/

    • 10 months ago
  • Almibry
  • EmperorThan
  • fernweher
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      fernweher  
    • 10 years ago when I was 17 I saw police beating drunk college kids on the train, groping girls and forcing them all to lie on the hard wet concrete face-down once they got off the train. When I was in college and George W was RE-elected I asked my fellow students "you're smart, why do you think this is happening and don't you want to protest it?" and 5/6 people told me; "I don't follow politics anymore, it's too depressing." So that is why we have our video games, mobile internet and consumer distractions; to hide from our huge student debt, shitty jobs and abusive government. It's like a kid who creates a fantasy world to escape a bad family situation.

    • 10 months ago
  • TranceSendDance
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      TranceSendDance  
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    • Thousands of protestors have been arrested.

      More people were arrested during the Republican National Convention in N.Y.C. in 2004 than at any other time in U.S. history.

      I was illegally arrested. When you are released you are warned from attending future protests... I don't remember the details but I think there was something like an additional charge if I was arrested again within 90 days or somesuch.

      Ever since G.W. Bush stole the 2000 election our Federal Government has been positioning itself to justify checkpoints and tank patrols on all of our Main Streets.

    • 10 months ago
  • fernweher
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      fernweher  
    • TranceSendDance:

      Yea, I went to the anti-war protest in DC back in 2003. There were 10,000+ ppl there but the media barely mentioned it. That could not be an accident. If the media ignores polite protests, they are forcing us to have violent ones. And that is a scary thing to start doing.

    • 10 months ago
  • americanpie
  • gypsysailor
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      gypsysailor  
    • I've been overseas and I can say this for an I witness fact. Comes a point in time when the level of frustration gets so high it no longer what matters the government will do. When people have had enough and have the energy, gumption, and some half way decent weapons available they will riot, or strike or even try to bring down a government. The more people hurt at this stage brings an even larger group out the next time, and often times even more dangerous. They may be right, they may be worng, but they will fight.

    • 10 months ago
  • figgdimension
  • figgdimension
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      figgdimension  
    • ..and the youth are well founded in their Fear of authority look how easily we are divided and conquered by the right . All they well, and I, see is the violence of the machine the lack of solidarity and activism, the rise of apathy who wants their teeth knocked out (w/no healthcare) for an apathetic working class that they are not even a part of ....

    • 10 months ago
  • hombre76
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      hombre76  
    • figgdimension:

      damn straight not to mention all the leaders from their generation are what? Dead, thats what. Thats what I learned from history, that and mayrters dont change shit they just get a holliday named after them by their murderers. I will stand up and fight when and iff enough people are willing to march with me or when my back is to the wall. but Im not stupid I know at besst alone I can only take a few with me. But with an army we could win and I would give my life to it if required. But I will not willfully alow my self to be murdered by these thugs in the guise of authority like that poor homeless Kid they beat to death in plain view of witnesses who taped him beg for his life. If no one will stop them from beating a young man to death in public why should I die uselessly trying to save these sheep from what they helped create? I see no value in that. wake up all you blind fools! the monster you made has come home to eat you alive.

    • 10 months ago
  • figgdimension
  • figgdimension
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      figgdimension  
    • hombre76:

      At least we know better !...we hit and run stay on the move and watch our backs we survive thats all any of us can do ,..and they ask why we don't throw ourselves on the alter of freedom,...huh?/ ive been there in Seattle WTO thats what democracy looks like... and we know how they roll like a para-military police gestapo ,...ever had your teeth knocked in or your body pelted with wooden and rubber bullets,.. sprayed with tear gas ddt and worse ...,No cause you'd be sick or dead or disgraced
      http://freedocumentaries.org/teatro.php?filmID=410&lan=en&size=big

    • 10 months ago
  • figgdimension
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      figgdimension  
    • only one reason really, its cause when your not there with them its easily considered by authorities a riot...the youth need youth leaders look in the mirror ...thats why!

    • 10 months ago
  • squarethecircle
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      squarethecircle  
    • Interesting perspective but we have all been severely blinded in addition to your list, we haven't a clue to truth or our potential and bicker about details we glimpse as the world fades around us.

    • 10 months ago
  • Dusty_King
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      Dusty_King  
    • One thing not mentioned, the plain fact that this country has a pathological drive to under fund the Education Department of the US Government and make our children into a cluster of texting zombies. I don't have much hope.

    • 10 months ago
  • americanpie
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      americanpie  
    • This was a very interesting hypothesis. I have been wondering why this generation's youth is not out there screaming about what is going on. It is the young people who are the hope for the future and they appear to be self absorbed by their cell phones and the mall. This helped we understand the dynamics that has silenced their leadership in rebeling these controlling forces that threaten them and the future of our country. They are as much a victim in this class war as anyone. Some how we need to reach them. It is very much about them too!

    • 10 months ago
  • Incredulous
  • theknopfknows
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      theknopfknows  
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    • YES YOUR RIGHT THEY CORNER THE YOUTH SENT THEM OFF TO WAR OR PRISON EITHER WAY YOU DIE YOUNG: SOME HOW THE YOUTH NEED TO UNITE GLOBALLY BECAUSE IT IS OLD MEN THAT SEND THEIR KIDS TO DEATH: YOUTH STOP FIGHTING ELDERLY^S WARS JUST REFUSE ALL AT ONCE: LOOK IRAN /=% YOUTH JUST TAKE OVER!

    • 10 months ago
  • BullDogg
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      BullDogg  
    • I think there are stirrings amongst the younger people in this country and things are soon to be coming to a boil. People don't protest for the sake of protesting (except Colbert and Stewart) so we haven't seen a largely youth-led movement in a while. I predict the next movement in this country will be for a push to lower the cost of college tuition. The college cost bubble has to burst sooner or later, and why not push for it now, when it makes no sense to charge as much as they do for a degree that will get you no where but into years of debt...a few lucky ones may land a job that gets them gainfully employed, but not many--which leads the rest to wonder why they dropped $200K for a piece of paper that doesn't mean very much any more.

    • 10 months ago
  • The_Wanderer_Kansas
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      The_Wanderer_Kansas  
    • BullDogg:

      You are mostly right I believe on the youth of today, except that things will not really come to a boil until the catalyst is seen/heard/felt by enough of the youth. The country has been full of stories of kids standing up for what they believe in, but they are still to far between. We as adults need to take our role as educators for our children more seriously. Talk to your own kids, talk to your neighbors kids, talk to kids anywhere you can and ask them how they feel and what they think should be done, they won't act unless encouraged/challenged to think.

    • 10 months ago
  • jubal
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      jubal  
    • US Citizens don't realize how much power they have...they have been trained like good little puppies to behave and not poop on the sidewalk, don't rock the boat. We need the whole house of economic cards to come crashing down so the ultra rich get a taste of poverty...then lets see how much they take away from social programs.

    • 10 months ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
  • Saladin
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      Saladin  
    • My generation just isn't interested, that's been my observation.

      Most of the shit the previous generation was raised to believe was asinine and evil in the public sector has become normal to my generation. And in the absence of any meaningful cultural influences to the contrary, they become self-absorbed and apathetic to larger problems.

      You have to understand that this culture of selfishness America has developed is all the younger generation knows (which is, in my opinion, why Libertarian ideologies are more prevalent among the political youth these days) and that's made many people, as the article said, into Fundamentalist Consumers.

      There are so many people I know who don't give a shit about anything except their next fix and their next paycheck, and the larger culture teaches them that's an acceptable way to live, that activism is voluntary, not a duty. In fact, I think the word duty is largely meaningless in America today, no one believes in it.

      And being raised under George W Bush was no big help either. Imagine being taught that the past decade of American history is "normal."

      You can see how that would make someone apathetic.

    • 10 months ago
  • COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM
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      COMMONSENSEFORCOMMONGOOD_COM  
    • Saladin:

      True. And the older generations are just as responsible because they did not stand up en masse and object to the crimes against us with loud voices and undeniable force. It was the older generation's apathy and indifference that permitted these atrocities to occur. Granted, naivete and gullibility contributed to the believe and trust that government was actually looking out for the PEOPLE'S interest.

    • 10 months ago
  • Georgia_Jim
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      Georgia_Jim  
    • One thing you failed to mention, the youth seem to care about the enviroment more than adults. They want their envirement protected and safe, I have wittness this first hand. I think you may be under estimating our youth.

    • 10 months ago
  • JanforGore
  • Wyley_Wombat
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      Wyley_Wombat  
    • Today, Americans who lack college degrees are increasingly shamed as “losers”;

      So there are a plethora of degrees for sale out there. From online, pay for MBA, to plays football well degrees, to legacy degrees where the student only shows up once a month. Essentially, just having a degree is more important than actually having the knowledge.

    • 10 months ago
  • mickyjon420
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      mickyjon420  
    • Wyley_Wombat:

      got's to give ya the up, and two more extra they won't let me give ya. Knowledge means more, yet the main belief is that those papers mean knowledge, and you can follow through with goals you have set for yourself.

    • 10 months ago
  • artemis6
  • Warren_Merrill
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      Warren_Merrill  
    • The biggest problem with most kids is they've been raised soft. Parents and teachers are afraid to hurt their feelings. They're afraid to tell kids they're wrong or challenge them to make a better effort. Then kids hit the real world to find out it's a big, bad, challenging world out there and they're clueless and helpless.

      I'd like to thank all the parents who raised their kids pampered which a false sense of self esteem. You've provided my kids a tremendous advantage.

    • 10 months ago
  • anatom
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      anatom  
    • Warren_Merrill:

      I agree Warren, schools care more about (and pump) self-esteem than academics. IMO this is a complete disservice to the student. It gives them a false sense of security to enter a world that will chew them up and spit them out. Being oversupportive during these formative years only serves to make them weak and dependent until they learn to think on their own.

      Parents act more like buddies than parents these days. It's like they're living vicariously through their children's lives because of the disappointing choices they've made. One last shot to be the "cool mom or dad" They're afraid to discipline or make the hard choices because it might make them uncool.

    • 10 months ago
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • anatom:

      Not to mention the fact that America lost at least a generation's worth of parents to crack, coke, meth, valium and prozac, leaving their children to raise themselves.

    • 10 months ago
  • Warren_Merrill
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      Warren_Merrill  
    • anatom:

      I get along great with my kids and their friends. But they know there's a line and not to cross it. Just like I'm aware there's a line if I cross I'm no longer parenting. One down, four college summers to go.

    • 10 months ago
  • WagonMaster
  • RaceBannon
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      RaceBannon  
    • Alm, I commend this article for facilitating a dialogue on the lack of call to action by our youth. Though my contemporaries are not exclusively to blame their energy and current predicament in the world should have signaled the return of groups like the sds.

      On another note point #2 hit home as I have returned to the study of psychoanalysis to further assist my understanding of the world and our mental environments. It has become my absynth with intoxicating affects. I only wish more people could take the time to enjoy this sweet liquer not because I'm some alcoholic but because I enjoy my cocktail parties with guest.. Good ol allegory ; )

    • 10 months ago
  • Molotov
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      Molotov  
    • I was excited voting for Obama-my own page of history. I had been watching CurrentTv for a year. The election brought suspense, hope, and disappointment. Now, 22 years old, I see the strings on the puppet-common sense amongst my friends. Nobody wants to take to the streets, busy waiting for the next rave, video game, movie and iPhone. Corporations have become the new slave owners. Somethings got to give...

      Really enjoyed this article, and everyone's comments.

    • 10 months ago
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  
    • Molotov:

      Best of luck Molotov. I am pleased to see that you can write coherent sentences and seem to have a good mind and the power of observation. My heart goes out to you young adults because it is a rough time to be you.

      You seem to have a good head on your shoulders and that gives you an advantage.

    • 10 months ago
  • americanpie
  • hombre76
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      hombre76  
    • I love the old "these youngsters aint the same when I was young" tiraid rant. the country is where it is now cause whatever you did in your youth was not enough. We might not use your tactics but thats cause they didn't work last time. I can tell you what we do have Wikileaks and Anon. They have dealt and continue to deal a great blows against entrenched power and money. But the artical is right about one thing too many who say they want change are comfortable with their lives. seems the last ten years did not do enough to take them out of their comfort zone, maybe we need anouther 4? I can promise that unless these comfortable middle road democrats dont start vering left thats what we all are gonna get.

    • 10 months ago
  • Mark701
  • bluestranger
  • EdJoyProductions
  • squarethecircle
  • Almibry
  • Toughth
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      Toughth  
    • It has allways been the drive of religion to control the people, when the College of Nicea convened it was the Idea of the Emporer Constantine to be able to control and tax an empire in a more efficient maner. After the fall of Rome the church became the ultimate decider of who ruled and did not rule by decision of the Pope. It was not until Martin Luthor tacked his manifesto on a church door in Germany that the church leadership was called into question. The inquesition is proof in point to the need of the church to control. Today it is still the same population and pshycological control being sought for the betterment of a few.

    • 10 months ago
  • Wyley_Wombat
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      Wyley_Wombat  
    • Toughth:

      Exactly as I have maintained for years. What is really scary in this age is the melding of politics, religion, and corporations. This could easily become the force that the church of Rome envisioned.

    • 10 months ago
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  
    • Excellent article. I am watching young people graduate from college with crippling debt and not jobs. My step daughter and my cousin, both recent grads with BAs have not been able to find suitable positions. One is working as a receptionist and the other in a hotel as a maid. The student loan payments make living independently impossible.

      We have made slave of these poor kids. They pay for an education which is substandard as far as I can see and there are no jobs for them.

      This should be making them angry and rebellious but they are too busy treading water just to survive.

    • 10 months ago
  • Warren_Merrill
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      Warren_Merrill  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      My daughter had no problem getting a great job with grea pay (relative to out of college). She worked her tail off in college to graduate PBK even though much of her time was consumed with a college sport. Once she graduated she pursued company after company until she was hired. She also worked part time during college when she had any free time.

      She attended college on 75% scholarship between academics and athletics. She worked her tail off in high school to earn these scholarships. My son will be starting college with a 75% scholarship for the same reasons.

      Some college graduates will achieve regardless of the situation. It's a matter of how badly they want it, how hard they're willing to go after it, and how willing they are to keep their heads up and not make excuses.

      In the first two years of college 93% of all grades given are A's or B's. If a kid doesn't graduate with at least a 3.5 gpa they aren't distinguishing themselves above the pack.

    • 10 months ago
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  
    • Warren_Merrill:

      Congratulations to your daughter. That is wonderful. But it is not the case for all recent graduates. My step daughter graduated with honors and wanted to go into teaching but NYC is trying to lay off the few teachers that it has. She is still looking, but in the meantime she took what was available. There is nothing in the field that she chose right now. She could probably relocate but she wants to be close to her family and she loves NYC.

      Situations are not always the same across the board. There are many factors in getting an education including family stability. I work with young adults that could not establish themselves in school through no fault of their own. Foster care or unreliable parents played a part. It is hard to get a scholarship if you did not have a stable environment throughout high school and financial aid is becoming increasingly more scarce.

    • 10 months ago
  • squarethecircle
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      You're exactly right and it's a pity you even have to make that argument. It was obvious to me in high school that it would be reckless to try to go to college right away; that's why I'm working to become a chef the good old fashioned way (via years of experience) until I decide on how I want to continue my education to avoid switching majors, spending more time/money than necessary in/on school and actually have a way to pay for it without being in debt until I retire.

    • 10 months ago
  • Warren_Merrill
  • Warren_Merrill
  • hombre76
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      hombre76  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      tell your step daughter to look into the Teaching for America program. She'll need to be willing to move but they will place her in a school that needs her and pay her a starting salery of 30-35K and pay off her college federal loans if she stays for the full two year contract.

    • 10 months ago
  • squarethecircle
  • EdJoyProductions
  • ecoalex
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      ecoalex  
    • Until there is inward thought,consciousness ,we are lost.Religion, the media, other distractions short circuit movements to force real change.We are sunk until people accept they have the power.

    • 10 months ago
  • congoboy
  • The_Wanderer_Kansas
  • bailey78
  • congoboy
  • congoboy
  • bailey78
  • congoboy
  • bailey78
  • congoboy
  • bailey78
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      bailey78  
    • congoboy:

      politics and life That is always a great argument. I believe that somethings that can be grown in your backyard should not be treated as a
      criminal offence. I would rather see some one smoke a little herb than to drink a shot of whiskey.

    • 10 months ago
  • congoboy
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      congoboy  
    • bailey78:

      although i no longer imbibe in either, i am not against an adults personal use of the herb. but like alcohol and any mind or mood altering substance it must be used responsibly.

    • 10 months ago
  • bailey78
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      bailey78  
    • congoboy:

      Ya see we can agree with eachother on a wide range of issues. I really don't see why folks are always voteng your comments down all the time. You seem like a smart person that has a good idea of what he wants out of life.

    • 10 months ago
  • congoboy
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      congoboy  
    • bailey78:

      i guess im a little too right for most on here. people vote me down basically because they dont like alternative view points. you know the old adage the belief in freedom of speech as long as it aligns with theirs. sometimes i am attacked unprovoked and i respond in kind and those folks dont like the fire with fire treatment. you and i have had disagreements but you are a rare entity on current, youre a thinker.

    • 10 months ago
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • congoboy:

      "people vote me down basically because they dont like alternative view points."
      That and you have a.. uh... reputation... But I don't see how anyone is trying to silence you, or your comments would be flagged mercilessly. It seems that the only people interested in repressing free speech are from the far right (based on who and what gets targeted). Otherwise I agree with most of what you stated.
      Edit: Except the hippy bashing. Don't agree with that.

    • 10 months ago
  • bailey78
  • bailey78
  • congoboy
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      congoboy  
    • Almibry:

      youre sorely mistaken if you truly believe that it is only extremists on the right who want to inhibit free thought and speech, the left has plenty on their side who wish the same thing...What’s really going on here is an attempt to silence people whose views liberals disagree with. After all, they don’t have a problem with billionaires using their money to influence policies and public opinion when the money is being spent by the likes of George Soros, a left-winger who, among other things, helps fund the Think Progress site.

    • 10 months ago
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • congoboy:

      I was talking about the behavior on this site specifically. I'm sure there are lefties like that here on Current who do the same, but on such a small scale that it's unnoticeable.

    • 10 months ago
  • congoboy
  • Almibry
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • congoboy:

      Never mind, the only one who commented on that was you, so you must mean the clip. I reiterate, I was talking about behavior on Current specifically. There isn't a politician in the world who wants his opponents to be heard.

    • 10 months ago
  • congoboy
  • Almibry
  • congoboy
  • PoliticalAmazon
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      PoliticalAmazon  
    • I have five more things that lead young people to not fight back.

      1. Young people have always had computers and other personal computer-ish products. They don't realize (like us older folks do) that, if one is not careful, one can end up wasting a lot of time in Facebook apps and online games. (I think this one could be put under the "Psychopathologizing and Medicating Noncompliance" (#2) category in the original article, as computer activity can become an escape mechanism, or "tranquilizer").

      2. (This only is valid if you believe that voting is an indication of political involvement, which includes fighting back).The biggest influx of new voters we experienced in a very long time was the new voters who voted for Obama in 2008. A lot of those 2008 voters are very disappointed in, and angry with, Obama's performance as president, and many did not bother to vote in 2010. I think those two issues are related and, since Obama has not changed his back-stabbing ways since the 2010 election, it seems likely that the 2008 young voters will not vote in 2012, either. My hope is that Obama, by his bait-and-switch presidential scam, has not created a whole generation of apathetic voters, but I fear that this is exactly what he has done.

      3. Young people, in general, are very herd oriented. Therefore, it is possible that the young, and now disappointed/angry 2008 young Obama voters, have influenced young people who have reached the age of voting since the 2008 election.

      4. In general, the generation which is now at voting age, or soon will be at that age, have been raised by parents whose work environments may have involved a lot of team-work activities. It is believed that these kinds of activities cannot be successful if individual members don't buy into the group think, and especially if they stridently stand up for their own personal belief or idea. I believe this has been passed on to the children of these parents.

      5. In general, young people have been encouraged to not get involved (except in popular, accepted group activities). More worrisome to me is that schools preach to students that, if another student is getting bullied, other students should not get involved and should not step in to stop the bullying action. This is frightening to me because it undermines one of the important aspects of the fabric of human society--protecting the weak because the weak have other skills that are valuable to society, and so, therefore, bullying the weak harms society. You can see this mind-think reflected in our president and congress's willingness to start stripping benefits from Social Security and Medicare. The presidential/congressional willingness to not stand up for the weak is clearly an "I-got-mine-who-cares-about-you" attitude, even in Democrats, who used to be more compassionate than GOPers. Understand, we spend a lot of effort electing and paying for our representation in Congress and the presidency, so for those we elected and who we financially support to just give the American citizens a giant FUCK-YOU, I-GOT-MINE approach to running our country is even more abhorant.

    • 10 months ago
  • SFirman
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      SFirman  
    • PoliticalAmazon:

      You have a one track mind PA. The article is about young people not fighting back. You just turned it into one of your bash Obama rants. The president is very much for education. He knows they are the future of our country.

    • 10 months ago
  • GENERALNATTY
  • remanns
  • remanns
  • Dejan_Croatia
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      Dejan_Croatia  
    • finally..an article on current worth reading and discussing. I have always wondered why the american public specifically the american youth has had no attempt to change the status quo of wheter it be education or health care or even social security. This article introduces the ideas we just need to take it a step further

    • 10 months ago
  • congoboy
  • Almibry
  • congoboy
  • Almibry
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      Almibry  
    • congoboy:

      http://dictionary.reference.com/eop

      I wouldn't say "put them on the back burner" but "bundle them together to better protect civil rights for EVERYONE" but I don't see that happening any time soon because some people believe in Satan. It would be waaay more efficient if we could just protect everyone at the same time, then we could spend our time and energy on prblems that affect even more people.

    • 10 months ago
  • congoboy
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      congoboy  
    • Almibry:

      agreed and ive felt this way for as long time. no special rights or prosecution enhancements for particular individuals. murder is murder, rape is rape, assault is assault. all crimes of violence are hate crimes in my mind. whether its a hatred toward women, white dudes, asians, gays etc. they should all be prosecuted the same way. but with the world falling apart and the u.s. in a shambles i believe there are more important issues to confront than protecting insects and little fish or same sex marriage. we have people to feed, jobs to create, an economy to rebuild, and a nation to protect

    • 10 months ago
  • bluestranger
    • +3
      bluestranger  
    • There are as many excuses for doing what is wrong as you wish to make up. There is only one reason for doing what is right.
      1. Student loan debt: Don't create the debt. Go to work and pay for school as you go.
      2. Psychopathologizing and medicating noncompliance: Since the studies here are for 18 to34 year olds the answer is simple. Quit taking all of those little pills that Mother gives you. Always question authority. "Trust no one over thirty" was the mantra of the sixties. Hell I'm 56 and I don't trust me sometime.
      3. Schools that Educate for Compliance and not Democracy: Ever heard of sit ins or other forms of protest? Try going to a school board meeting and asking questions. If they don't answer fully or truthfully, organize. Ask questions at college lectures when the Prof. tries to feed you a line of bullshit.
      4. "No Child Left Behind" and "Race to the Top": That is what is commonly as "Hoacum" or for the more profane, bullshit. These are programs created by people who are called upon to create programs.
      5. Shaming Young People Who Take Education - But Not Their Schooling Seriously: School is something you are required to do until your 16 in most states. The main reason most schools want you there is to get a fat paycheck from the government. "I loved college. I just hated the classes."
      6. The Normalization of Surveillance: My kids were surveiled by me more than by anyone or anything else. Same as I was by my parents. It didn't stop me from raising hell and having fun.
      7. Television: Either put down the remote or plot the revolution while playing Grand Theft Auto and watching Sponge Bob. Problem solved.
      8. Fundamentalist Religion and Fundamentalist Consumerism: How did these two get thrown together? You have to be a sucker for both. Either grow up now and quit being a patsy or get ready for somebody to tell you what to do and how to do it for the rest of your life.
      I am not and never will advocate violent revolution. As for as protesting that which is wrong and being part of political change, that's who we are. Read your history book. Quit trying to make excuses and start making a difference.

    • 10 months ago
  • Lairderg
  • SFirman
  • bailey78
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      bailey78  
    • (ODD). The official symptoms of ODD include “often actively defies or refuses to comply with adult requests or rules,” “often argues with adults,” and “often deliberately does things to annoy other people.”
      Thats sounds like a lot of people that I know. Myself included.

    • 10 months ago
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