Senator Wyden Demands To Know How Many Americans Are Under Surveillance Under The Patriot Act
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Lairderg
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I've probably been in the "list" since I protested the Nixon inauguration in 1972.
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Lairderg
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KB723
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Lairderg:
LOL... Maybe so... =)
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KB723
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warman1138
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The largest assembly of super computers known to man are tasked to monitering all phone traffic everywhere (NAS) and they are putting more facilities and equipment together as time moves on. Big brother has been here for a while and is just getting bigger and better at what it does.
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warman1138
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KB723
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warman1138:
Sadly so warman1138....
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KB723
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warman1138
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KB723:
I might get into trouble for saying this but you might be surprised what you can do with certain aspects of microwave technology.
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warman1138
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KB723
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warman1138:
How can you get in trouble when the gov't already knows??? Now I am Curious, cos I don't know... Tell me more, I have a few minutes left before Lunch is over.... =)
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KB723
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Buckeye_Bill
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warman1138:
I know there's a big, really big...HUGE even, file that some states and private companies use to reach out and touch us. Have you noticed or heard about people who were written parking tickets, etc., and decades later they are contacted by a company demanding payment IMMEDIATELY?
I got one. A parking ticket from 1981 when I was in South Beach vacationing. With fine and penalty they wanted $29.75 "yesterday" or all three credit agencies would be told about how I was a deadbeat and that if I didn't pay it would stay on my credit report for no less than 7 years!
The ding, dang, dong thing about it was I DID get a ticket, but I forgot all about paying it!
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Buckeye_Bill
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warman1138
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KB723:
Microwaves tech. is used for a lot of stuff, missle guidence, frying enemy electroninics and shielding an area from radar and trans. For example if you were to mount and power a transmission disk in your car you could influance a cops radar,scramble or fry depending on how much power you could throw and frequency. Another example,sailors working on warships have to be careful and power down miss. guid. systems and radar or end up fried or sterile, birds are always killed when trying to hang out around such things. Unfortunetly use of such would also be detectable if somebody is looking for it. For something interesting check out Wild Weasles during the Vietnam War and some of their missions and tech., cool stuff and they had balls going in and baiting SAM batteries.
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warman1138
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warman1138
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Buckeye_Bill:
Sort of like being haunted by the undead, or corporate entities.
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warman1138
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Buckeye_Bill
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warman1138:
Not to mention how Sarah Palin uses a microwave oven to cook her moose stew!
But someone really needs to inform her that she doesn't have to preheat it, though.
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, let her stay stupid.
LOL
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Buckeye_Bill
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KurtLewin
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From what I have read, there are many organizations/states watching folks...I've noticed a fear of telling the truth about Palestine...could it be...?
Here is a wordstorm I did @ http://www.lonij.net/wordstorm/wordstorm.php
type Israel, 100 words...amazing what artificial intelligence can reveal...Should we fear speaking our minds? If so, Al, I donated a letter to the Clinton Library, a response to a letter I sent President Clinton, prayers during your difficulties...uh, I need it back so I can sell it for a ticket to Canada??? I will speak my mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are supporting a Zionist REGIME that is making us a target for terrorist...
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KurtLewin
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KB723
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KurtLewin:
They do seem to be doing something behind closed doors that would make folks wonder just WTF....
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KB723
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Buckeye_Bill
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KurtLewin:
If the government wants...really wants to find out where a person lives all they would have to do is ask the March of Dimes!
You can't get rid of their donation requests! I don't care how many times you move and not leave a forwarding address, they're like a bloodhound on the trail of a convict! They can track anyone down.
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Buckeye_Bill
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squarethecircle
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KurtLewin:
Absolutely true
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squarethecircle
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nikonwilly
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Guess what fool.....we already KNOW our Government is the freaking enemy!
Is this guy from the same planet ? - 10 months ago
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nikonwilly
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nikonwilly:
LOL, It makes a person wonder where he has been for the last 12 years....
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KB723
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nikonwilly
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KB723:
Ha...I'm glad he's concerned, but he's a tad late on this one...:)
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nikonwilly
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Buckeye_Bill
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"How Many Americans Are Under Surveillance Under The Patriot Act"
Is this a trivia question?
If so, before I answer, how many people reside in the United States of America?
That's my answer.
(eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwww...I had to get rid of that "all seeing eye"!
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Buckeye_Bill
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figgdimension
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Buckeye_Bill:
amazing pic voted up /\
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figgdimension
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KB723
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Buckeye_Bill:
That's the right answer, but lets keep in mind the friends and loved ones that folks keep in contact with in other countries....
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KB723
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Buckeye_Bill
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KB723:
Is that why all my friends and family have stopped calling, writing, emailing, tweeting.......and sending me smoke signals? LOL...they're afraid, too! I was wondering about Uncle Abdullah. He just stopped writing.
Makes all kinds of sense now!
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Buckeye_Bill
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KB723
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Buckeye_Bill:
LMFAO... Yeah that could be why... You know they will not use Smoke Signals cos that gives them away, and easy to find with a Preditor, I think that's what those unmanned airplanes are called... =)
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KB723
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Hardytoo
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KB723:
Canada was smart enough to accept many of your sisters and brothers. They've created many, many beautifully towns, brought their crafts abilities, their artistic abilities, set up food co-ops with the foods they grew. (And got free medicare.) My kid and her family moved up to one of those areas (up the coast, only 40 min ferry ride from Vancouver). They're learning lots, growing gardens, swapping foods for other foods needed, put up a free-range chicken house, and on and on. They LOVE it. There are excellent schools - the kids go on kinda off-the-wall field trips - it's great.
They fish, crab (crabs as big as your head) (the good kind of crabs, haha). pick oysters and dig clams when there's no R in the month. They can't say enough GOOD about it.
So it can be done. And they've promised me a new treehouse to live in, within six months. I'd have to adopt many of you, but we could do it. Seriously, get the immigration papers ready (it takes a while, so don't put it off). These enclaves are situated in a temporal rain forest, one of the few left on Earth - and it WILL be protected. Most of is designated as park land and therefore protected.
I can't wait to leave the evil city. - 10 months ago
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Hardytoo
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figgdimension:
I HAD to get rid of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It gave me the heebie jeebies.
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Hardytoo:
Ahhhhhhhhh, sorry to be the one to tell you this, but since their version of the Rethuglican Party has taken over, they're deporting expat Americans, now, eh?
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Buckeye_Bill
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Hardytoo
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Buckeye_Bill:
Some but not many. They're really focussed on Arab war criminals right now. And you're right about our right wing gov't - but looking on the bright side, it's the first time in history (our history) that we've elected a Green Party Member and the first time ever that we've elected the "Labour Party" (NDP) as the Official Opposition. It's working slowly, but it IS working. The gov't's a little high-handed but they follow the US's orders in tracking down whomever the US gov't tells them to, and they're pretty focused on war criminals. We can do it while they have their heads turned.
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Hardytoo
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Buckeye_Bill
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KB723:
The new, improved "Duck and Cover"? Only for others to protect them from us?
Bert the Turtle is now Babar the Fakroun?
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Hardytoo:
Did I do dat? Again? Spread inaccurate information?
Well, I thank you for the most "current" (pun) information! I shall update my memory bank! It's always best to get the "facts" straight from the "horse's mouth", eh?
LOL
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Buckeye_Bill
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Hey...how would you know that you were cavorting with a "terrorist"? Does anyone THINK that the terrorist would come right out and tell you? It could be a co-worker that you've gone bowling with or was invited to his or her home. You do know that terrorists have to be as incognito as possible and to blend in with their surroundings, right? Or dating a terrorist's daughter or son?
Who knows? Right? Who would I ask if the government has a thick dossier with my name on it? Would I really want to know? Well, do I? Hmmm...
I think the "alphabet soup agencies" want you to be afraid of everyone and suspect that the "other guy" MIGHT be a terrorist and to report them to the "proper" authorities of anything you might think is suspicious. Spy on your neighbors and strangers, especially.
I always thought that Homeland Security/Patriot Act was so ambiguous in nature as to allow the government to spy on anyone they wish.
Politicians beware! Regular folks beware. And afraid. They have to make us feel as if we are in constant danger from perceived terrorists hiding in the bushes or around every corner. Fear works wonders!
And what, pray tell, if you are targeted as a "friend" or one that associates with a "known terrorist", what would become of you? 24 hour around the clock surveillance? Watching your every move? Planting a GPS device on your car to track you when you're coming or going? Read your emails, tweets, snail mail, listen in on all phone calls both landline and cell? It's known that they can track your phone using it's internal GPS even if you turn it off. You must remove the battery to prevent them from following you where ever you go.
And what is your recourse if you suspect your government of spying on you? Nada, nothing, nil, niet. Your very own government could arrest you on some trumped up charges and throw away the key and there's not one thing you could do about it because the Patriot Act took away your rights of protection under habeas corpus.
You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. Your base are belong to us.
So, if I were to be arrested and IF I got one call, I would contact my wife and tell her to get in touch with the Law Office of Ben Dover to get me out of their clutches, posthaste!
"The shit has hit the fan, babe. Send lawyers, guns and money, honey!"
Well, scratch the guns.
LOL
(I hope like Hell I haven't been added to no list for posting this comment!)
What's a farm boy from Ohio to do?
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Buckeye_Bill
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figgdimension
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Buckeye_Bill:
not much , just like a city boy from Ohio (wink)
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Buckeye_Bill:
Ditch all electronics, wear heat refractive clothing, hit the wilderness, stay in the trees, become a cypher. Other than that we are all victims of the all seeing eye. Orwellian chess anyone?
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warman1138
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warman1138:
LOL...you're very observant! I'll wager that if you play baseball, you're a catcher and nothing gets by you!
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Buckeye_Bill
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Buckeye_Bill:
Used to be when I was a kid.
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Sorry for the insanely long post, but this is what our beloved Congress Critters are up to, so we are all protected.
http://judiciary.house.gov/news/Statement%20HR%201981.html
Statement of Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith
Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security
Hearing on H.R. 1981, the “Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011”Chairman Smith: Child pornography may be the fastest growing crime in America, increasing an average of 150% per year.
The Justice Department estimates that there are now more than one million pornographic images of children on the Internet. The Department also estimates that one-third of the world’s pedophiles involved in organized pornography rings worldwide live in the United States.
Since the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) created the CyberTipline 12 years ago, electronic service providers have reported eight million images and videos of sexually exploited children.
The number of reports to NCMEC’s CyberTipline of child pornography, child prostitution, child sex tourism, child sexual molestation, and online sexual enticement of children increased from about 4,000 in 1998 to 102,000 in 2008, an average increase of 200% per year.
H.R. 1981, the Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act, enables law enforcement officials to successfully locate and prosecute those who want to hurt our children.
Often, the only way to identify a pedophile who operates a website or exchanges child pornography images with other pedophiles is by an Internet Protocol address.
Law enforcement officials must obtain a subpoena and then request from the Internet Service Provider the name and address of the user of the IP address. Unfortunately, ISPs regularly purge these records, making it difficult if not impossible for investigators to apprehend child pornographers on the Internet.
H.R. 1981 directs Internet Service Providers to retain Internet Protocol addresses to assist federal law enforcement officials with child pornography and other Internet investigations.This is a narrow provision that addresses the retention of only the Internet Protocol addresses the providers assign to their customers. It does not require the retention of any content. So the bill does not threaten any legitimate privacy interests of Internet users.
Some Internet Service Providers currently retain these addresses for business purposes. But the period of retention varies widely among providers, from a few days to a few months. And providers will even change their own retention periods from time to time. The lack of uniform data retention impedes the investigation of Internet crimes.
H.R. 1981 requires providers to retain these records for 18 months. This mirrors an existing FCC regulation that requires telephone companies to retain for 18 months telephone toll records, including the name, address and telephone number of the caller, plus each telephone number called and the date, time and length of the call.
In effect, this bill merely applies to the Internet what has applied to telephones for decades.
Without the identity of the perpetrator, law enforcement officials cannot track down pedophiles, so they continue to threaten our children.The Justice Department describes a disturbing trend in child pornography – that pedophiles who document their sexual abuse of children will only exchange images with other pedophiles who do the same. The result is that people who may have previously only viewed these images now have the incentive to sexually abuse children and produce their own images.
Data retention enables law enforcement officials to catch the abusers and save the children being abused.
Critics contend that data retention is unnecessary because current law already requires ISPs to preserve records at the request of law enforcement agents for 90 days. But ISPs can only preserve the information they still have. By the time investigators discover the Internet child pornography and make the request under this provision, the provider has often already purged the Internet Protocol (IP) address records.
Both Democratic and Republican Administrations have been calling for data retention for a decade.
In January, the Justice Department testified that short or even non-existent retention by providers frustrate criminal investigations.Every time a provider purges its IP address records, it erases forever the evidence needed to save a child.
In hearings before the Committee this spring, both Attorney General Holder and FBI Director Mueller testified that data retention is invaluable to investigating child pornography and other Internet-based crimes.
H.R. 1981 also creates a new federal offense allowing for federal prosecution of any person who conducts a financial transaction knowing that it will facilitate access to child pornography.
This bill strengthens protections for child witnesses and victims, who are often subjected to harassment and intimidation throughout the trial period. The bill allows a federal court to issue a protective order if it determines that a child victim or witness is being harassed or intimidated and imposes criminal penalties for violation of a protective order. And the bill increases penalties for child pornography offenders in cases that involve children less than 12 years old.
Parents, who once relied on the four walls of their homes to keep their children safe, are now faced with a new challenge. The Internet has unlocked the doors and opened the windows.
The Internet has proved to be of great value in many aspects of our lives. But it has also become a virtual playground for sex predators and pedophiles to distribute child pornography images and encourage others to engage in child pornography.
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Dusty_King
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I want to know too!
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Didn't they just vote to extend the Patriot Act? And why does the GOP, which stereotypically hates big gov't, support this unconstitutional law that infringes upon our personal freedoms? We haven't been attacked since it has been put in place, but it allows the gov't too much power and must be repealed.
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BullDogg:
Agreed! Just one more link in a chain of personal rights violations and constitutional infringement.
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PressCore
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30 Million at least. That's 1 in 10 American citizens without any history of
violence and no criminal records. The FBI are wolves in sheeps clothing.
Hitler Bush is a monster, and a war criminal still as yet unindicted and at
large. We have that shitbag criminal sympathizer Nobama to thank for that. - 10 months ago
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PressCore:
Im with ya and many here a swell
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figgdimension
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Hardytoo
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Yes, every last one.
If you can, take a look at this link - it's from a Vancouver newspaper - you can identify anyone in the crowds (this was from a huge street party here for the Stanley Cup; a riot resulted (not the point here) - it's the picture. Now think of what the police and military have as spy cams.
They can see what you ate last nite! - 10 months ago
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Hardytoo
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bailey78
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All of us??
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bailey78:
Accept those of us, we have just Made Up.... =)
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bailey78
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KB723:
Nope even those that are made up are being watched. Just not by them but by those.
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bailey78:
And "Those" are the Best... LOL, Who really Cares?? I pay taxes I have nothing of Harm to share... I have my Yes, my No like anyone else... I also like to eat Jalapenos from time to time.... Perhaps the gov't can send me the latest coupons, I can eat green chili all week.... =)
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bailey78:
You guessed it!
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Richard_Wyatt
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I know I am probably on some sort of terrorist list, but I am a proud terrorist
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Richard_Wyatt:
As GW said: If you are Not with Us, You are Against us...
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bailey78
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KB723:
How would he know He is a warmonger that is againinst Us all. I wish He would take a trip to Sweden
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bailey78
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bailey78:
As do I bailey78, as do I... =(
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wolfenhawk:
That is the plan
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bailey78
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So how will this affect Debbie Wasserman Schultz's bill, HR 1981 over in the House? A we can spy on you completely through you computer without any notification bill. A data-mining bill under the guise of kiddie porn, because the police and FBI just can't do their jobs without completely taking away our civil rights, charming.
Please drop her a note telling her how much you think of her brilliant idea.
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Dusty_King:
I just might... Can you share a Link??? I need to know more about this... Did you know that if for any reason you are stopped by the police in California, that even without reason, they can access all you electrical hardware, aka cell phone messages, text messages, contacts list etc... Same if you are carrying a laptop, this passed some time ago... I will see if I can post You that link... =)
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KB723:
WHAT??????? Good thing I don't have a cell phone… lol… didn't think one existed and I live in LA. Also in on the California Drivers License you can not use for voter ID. I just saw that after living here for 25 years, I've never heard of that before. WHAT!!
Anywho, the bill HR 1981, was just passed out of committee, 19-10. Very scary shit, looking for a link, surprisingly enough it was burning this site up 2 days ago… can't find it now, will keep looking.
Peace.
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Dusty_King
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Dusty_King:
Cool. I will have to get back to you this evening, but I am sure you can google it... I found it at Rawstory, maybe you can search there...
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PoliticalAmazon
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I'd like to know that, too.
I once considered seeing if there was a govmint dossier on me through the FOIA, but decided not to. I would be so disappointed if I never did anything to that reached the level to freak out our increasingly paranoid govmint.
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PoliticalAmazon
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PoliticalAmazon:
It's probably safe to take for granted that they have all of our records... Bastards even know what I had for lunch yesterday... Life with plastic, makes it all possible... =)
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KB723
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Senator Wyden Demands To Know How Many Americans Are Under Surveillance Under The Patriot Act
"LOL, I think he was just added to that List!!!!" =)
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