The Battle For Blair Mountain
source: http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2011/08/05/citizens-sue-over-frivolous-blair-mountain-...
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-------" Throughout the early 20th century, West Virginia coal miners attempted to overthrow this brutal system and engaged in a series of strikes, such as the Paint Creek-Cabin Creek strike of 1912, and which coal operators attempted to stop through violent means. Mining families lived under the terror of Baldwin-Felts detective agents who were professional strikebreakers under the hire of coal operators. During that dispute agents drove a heavily armored train through a tent colony at night, opening fire on women, men and children with a machine gun.[8] They would repeat this type of tactic during the Ludlow Massacre in Colorado the next year, with even more disastrous results.[9]"--------
Blair Mountain is the site of the largest armed conflict in the United States outside of the Civil War. As many as 130 people were killed in battle with Logan County sheriff's deputies and paid strike breakers from the Baldwin-Felts Detective Agency.
Now, the West Virginia Department of Environmental Protection, in moves that only highlights its well known and well paid position of bought and paid for by wealthy industrial interests-----not only wants to destroy the environment which they are supposed to be protecting, they also want to destroy our history as well by allowing the mountain top removal mining of Blair Mountain. Destroy the environment, destroy the people who have to work in the mines(WVDEP allowed violations that led to the deaths of 29 miners last year at a Massey Energy mine----and countless others)-----and now, they want to destroy our history as well. By erasing the memory of miners who gave their lives trying to make better working conditions.
Tom Clark---the director of WVDEP called the efforts to end the mountain top mining destruction of Blair Mountain---and preserve the site of one of the most significant pieces of the history of the the United States---"frivolous".
I suspect he calls anything that doesn't show a profit and put money in his pocket frivolous.
Please lend your support to stopping the destruction of Blair Mountain---and lets do what we can to preserve this site of an important piece of US history as a national park. Send letters to your congressmen and let it be known that you don't want our environment, our history and a piece of who we are destroyed to the profit of a few industrialists.
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RevKen
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I remember seeing something about this on The History Channel. It just amazes me how BIG BUSINESS is willing to murder people to keep their HUGE Profits rolling in.
I remember when I lived in the western part of Virginia up amongst the coal miners and such. These were good people that never asked for anything more than what their hard work deserved. The mine owners still ask them to work harder and try to get them to take less all the while ignoring rules and regulations that are meant to keep the mines safe and the miners alive.
I have a lot of problems with some of the things that unions do but we should work on fixing these things, not get rid if unions. Yes there are some greedy people in the unions and there are some lazy union workers but America will end as we know it when the unions disappear. (For the record there are greedy and lazy people everywhere in American life, not just unions.)
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RevKen
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teacherdave
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Mountain top removal practices need to be abandoned. The history of Blair Mountain and coal mining wars needs to be revisited. The only time U.S . forces were used on our own people.If you haven't read much about the history of West Virginia coal mining try the book 'Bloodletting in Appalachia ". You will see just how ugly corporations have been and continue to be.
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teacherdave
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Prijedor
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I really dont know why people are complaining, the earth will naturally make another mountain in a million years
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Prijedor
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KB723
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Prijedor:
Correct and you or I will Not be here.... =)
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KB723
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KB723
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Profit over people... It never seems to end... =(
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KB723
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attilatheblond
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KB723:
Oh there you are!
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attilatheblond
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KB723
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attilatheblond:
Hi attilatheblond I had to step away for a few... Got a whole lot of wood work to do... How's Things???
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KB723
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Prijedor
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KB723:
Profit over people is correct, if you dont like it then keep complaining from the bottom
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Prijedor
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KB723
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Prijedor:
I was not complaining, just stating the obvious... Always a Pleasure to see you Prijedor... =)
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KB723
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attilatheblond
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KB723:
Things are better. Getting tough enough to read the news again! LOL
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attilatheblond
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KB723
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attilatheblond:
Cool, well let me know when you can drop by msj and I will send you a PM with images of what I have been making for the last year and a half... I am very Stoked with my latest piece... =)
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KB723
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attilatheblond
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KB723:
May actually have time to do that this week ! Looking forward to it.
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attilatheblond
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KB723
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attilatheblond:
Right On attliatheblond... I love that you can send pics in PM's over there... I may just send the images tonight if I find time... =)
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KB723
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DudleyDooleft
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Mountaintop removal mining is a bad deal all around, except of course for the mining companies. MTR mining is devastating to the surrounding land, streams and animals, it should be stopped. Over 500 mountains have been reduced to rubble, for no other reason than increasing profits for the mining companies. It's cheaper, so to hell with all other concerns
Blair Mountain is especially important because of the historical significance of the battle. The sad thing is, the Battle of Blair Mountain is not as widely known about as it should be, it’s importance in the fight for worker’s rights and benefits is still significant. Preserving the history and integrity of Blair Mountain is very important to the history of labor struggles in America.
You can help in the struggle to preserve Blair Mountain.
http://www.friendsofblairmountain.org/about-us/events/ - 10 months ago
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DudleyDooleft
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Wetdog
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DudleyDooleft:
Thanks dudley----interesting link, I'm checking into it now.
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Wetdog
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DudleyDooleft
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Wetdog:
attilatheblond, exposed a Missouri connection in these comments about Blair Mountain. Mid-MO here.
Thanks for the post Wetdog! - 10 months ago
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DudleyDooleft
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Wetdog
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DudleyDooleft:
More than that dudley. Remember the John Prine song, Muehlenberg County?
Poppa, won't you take me back down to Muehlenberg county?
Down by the Green River where Paradise lay?
I'm sorry my son, but you're too late in asking,
Mr. Peabody's coal train has hauled it away.Peabody and their coal trains have been gone for 40 years from north central Missouri. But the destruction and pits are still there.
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Wetdog
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attilatheblond
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Wetdog:
KB and I had a little discussion about the Berkely Pit/toxic lake in Butte MT, a place important in labor history too, and illustration of an industry gone wrong.
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attilatheblond
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Wetdog
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attilatheblond:
attilatheblond:
Butte Montana has a long history of labor struggles----and an extensive listing on the National Register of Historic Places.http://www.butteamerica.com/labor.htm
I think Blair Mountain should have the same status at least.
Butte is a wonderful place to visit, full of interesting history and things to see.
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Wetdog
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attilatheblond
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Wetdog:
Perhaps taking this issue up in Butte might garner some backing? There are still plenty of families that know the true black heart of extraction companies and the value of holding dear that which keeps that knowledge alive in American culture.
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attilatheblond
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attilatheblond
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To keep the people under control, Hoarder Class will wipe history, deny our sacred places. Ignorance of history by the masses is bliss and continued power for the Hoarder Class. If we cannot preserve the history and sacred reminders of history, the human workers will be nothing but lost cogs in a very big machine that will grind the humanity out of them.
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attilatheblond
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cmc101
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bless you wet dog for posting this
The atrocities brought upon my family after the civil war my great grand father was a commander for the north after the war when he died his children sold
into indenture servitude and my grand father was able to buy out of his brothers and most of his sisters the youngest sister 14 years old married her rapist that bought her.
these history are being lost because of political correct history books even the meaning of the bible has change also Jesus fought the money changers BUT we praise them. - 10 months ago
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cmc101
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Wetdog
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cmc101:
cmc101---please write down your family history, before it is lost. We need to preserve the history of who we are, how we got here, what has gone before.
We can't know where we are going without knowing where we have been.
They want to enslave your body to work for them. But even worse, they want to steal your soul. They want to erase the memory of the pain, struggle and sacrifice of your forebearers----and make you a mindless robot to feed their greed.
I say, don't let that happen. Write down your history. Not on a computer where they can hit a key and delete your soul----get it on paper, get it on metal plaques and carved into stone monuments. That is why I think Blair Mountain should be a national park. So that you, and all the rest of us with similar stories of our ancestors won't have our souls stolen from us. We need to remember for all time, because the struggle that they fought for continues for all time.
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Wetdog
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cmc101
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Wetdog:
I do have a hard copy a film ,three cd's I have to change my media every time some body upgrade then there divorce,disaster family secrets spite closet problems but i still got copies and you ought to here the treats it is like music
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cmc101
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Wetdog
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cmc101:
Good for you, you are a historian.
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Wetdog
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attilatheblond
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cmc101:
cmc101,
Please contact local library and/or historical society. Many libraries are working on heritage projects where they take oral history and any documents families care to share and digitizing them. It is a big effort to preserve history as close to the source as possible.
Some libraries, participating in such projects (here in MT, it is a state wide effort with help of the State Historical Library) to get things preserved before papers and photos crumble from oxidation and before no family members are left to tell the stories. It's important work and needs public participation to really get the history right. Sadly, budgets are being cut and no $$ to promote.
But call. Maybe your local library has a digital recorder and/or means of copying your history to archives. Somebody down the line will be most grateful to find your family's history. It will help put the lie to the official histories being published for the agenda of the corporations.
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attilatheblond
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cmc101
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attilatheblond:
my cousin has a library copy
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cmc101
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attilatheblond
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Thanks for posting this, Wetdog. Too few have a clue about the history of corporate abuses and murder. The only thing new about it now is the numbers and methods.
For those who would like a peek at the human toll, there is a short read call: Goodbye Wifes and Daughters. Yes, that is how 'wives' is spelled in the title. It is a quote from one of many messages left by dying miners in Montana during WWII. Those men died because of management/owner greed and neglect. The mine was known to be a 'dirty mine' but the company just dragged their feet about cleaning it up. And a town died. Humans died. Families died.
Greed. It has to be faced down because nothing you let the greedy take will ever be enough to satisfy them. They will take until they kill. And they will kill until only they are left.
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attilatheblond
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Wetdog
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attilatheblond:
Thank you for reading and contributing Attilatheblond. I'm glad you think it is important too----it isn't just this generation that is fighting this fight---it has been going on a long time.
I feel like we not only owe it to ourselves and future generations not to fail, we owe it to our parents, grandparents and great grandparents not to fail.
I think that most people have no idea how hard past generations have fought and how much they sacrificed for the same things we are struggling for now.
I don't want to see those who gave so much forgotten or just dismissed as "frivolous".
I think this is every bit as much a battle for freedom against slavery and tyranny as D Day or Gettysburg. I think it is entirely fitting and proper that Blair Mountain should be made a national park. The story should be told, and not forgotten.
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Wetdog
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attilatheblond
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Wetdog:
When I read ANYTHING in the news re the attacks on labor and organized labor in particular, my mind flashes back to an old photo from my mom's childhood. It was a long photo, kept rolled up in her little metal strong box, a sacred thing.
International Typographical Union picnic. Mom was probably 10-12 and in the front row with the other kids. Grandpa, a tall man, was in the back row. Grandma, a crippled lady with very limited mobility was not in the picture. Most likely, she was with the Ladies' Axillary, setting out fried chicken and pies. A sacred thing, the annual picnic. A time for sharing joys, fears, concerns, and history, with others who really understood, who really were your brothers and sisters in struggle if not in blood.
Odd thing about my grandpa's fever for active and strong unions, his dad was a newspaper publisher. Sure, he founded and publishes SMALL papers in small, newly formed communities, as the west was opened up to homesteaders and people with little but hope took Mr. Greeley's advice. My great granddad probably heard that advice at the table, when Mr. Greeley would visit a more established publisher, one who fancied himself a king maker and self appointed adviser to a tall, gaunt chap named Lincoln.
A long way from the salons of privilege and power, Grandpa grew up as part of a family that traveled the west, because 'every town needs a good newspaper for the democracy to work', He learned his letters sitting in a hand made high chair, well worn by the bottoms of 3 older brothers, playing with type in the print shop of a small, new, promising western town. Son of a New York newspaperman and Irish immigrant mother, he learned the trade from the bottom up and from a very early age. He saw land barons ride rough shod over homesteaders. He learned the smell of corrupt politicians. He stepped over bodies in the street, left from gunfights the previous night, to get to the railroad station to pick up the all important 'newspapers from back east' which he then delivered to his father and what few folks in town could afford the luxury of a paper that wasn't just local.
And he read. He could tell you mountains of things about any given community just from studying one issue of their local paper. But that was back when there were still some local, independent papers, back when I was young and we all knew to bring him a paper from anywhere we visited. Information, REAL information was important. And the people who gathered it, delivered it, were important. The workers in the communities who read it were important. Without information, people wouldn't pick good representatives and leaders. Without information, understanding, following history in the making, the workers would be victims of the Robber Barons, over and over and over again.
Without good jobs, people could not survive, maybe even prosper a little, enough to get their kids moving in a direction where they might survive a little easier, prosper a little more, offer a little better start to their kids..
Unions were important to my granddad, a man who bore long witness to a lot of abuse of the working people by a class that did not 'work' save effort spent plotting more ways to exploit those of lesser resource, lesser advantage.
He never owned much, a small farm outside St. Joe. He worked that and worked at the local paper, where he could do any job. He worked after 'retirement' because he could fill in for anyone who was on vacation or taken ill. And he had a brass plated union membership card, cause he couldn't afford gold, but knew that card's worth and wanted it to at least represent the gold it was.
The 'boys at the paper' all took deep cuts in the hours they worked during the Great Depression. They did that so no one (or more) would be laid off completely. They were Union, They were Brothers. They all knew the struggles and the value of working together, getting a bit less per man perhaps, but assuring the survival of all.
Yeah, a sacred thing, that old photo of those faces. A reminder of shared effort, sometimes shared sacrifice, always shared hope and work.
History is something we seem to have lost sight of. The Hoarder Class knows what my granddad and his dad knew: Information and Brotherhood was how the democracy would work.
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attilatheblond
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Wetdog
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attilatheblond:
Anyone who doubts for one second the power of the written word needs to read this post!
Thank you.
BTW----where near St. Joe? I grew up in that area.
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Wetdog
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attilatheblond
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Wetdog:
Near St Joe means just barely out of town (St Joe, MO) on the east, back then. Probably a housing tract now LOL.
edited to add: But it was the Oklahoma Territories & points west that he grew up in.
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attilatheblond
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Wetdog
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attilatheblond:
I grew up in Macon, MO----just down highway 36 east.
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Wetdog
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attilatheblond:
Interesting! Thanks
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attilatheblond:
This type of brotherhood pride has no resistance we may have lost our way but recalling the why there is a strong underground of real labor willing to come forth in the time of need
I am confident that Wisconsin has a lot of wind behind their people - 10 months ago
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cmc101
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attilatheblond
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Hired thugs murdered some union people in AZ in the 1980s too.
And the US Army also fired on union miners during WWI.
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attilatheblond
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attilatheblond:
I have relatives that was drop in the desert and told to walk in the 1800s
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cmc101
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cmc101:
Still happening in 2011
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attilatheblond
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attilatheblond:
Yes I know the lawlessness is supported by indifference and our elite church members
that don't want to pay their rent for living on earth - 10 months ago
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cmc101
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Wetdog
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Here is the history of the struggle that took place on Blair Mountain in 1921.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain
The industrialists want nothing more than for the people of the United States to forget and be unaware of the callous and exploitative ways they have destroyed the environment, and people of this country in pursuit profits and private gain----and are continuing to do so to this day.
Your grandparents and great grandparents risked everything, even being killed to stand up to them. Will you let their sacrifices be forgotten and come to nothing?
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Wetdog
