America vs. the Tea Party
source: http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/tea_party_downgrade/index2.html?rc=LA_BoeTea_08102011_a1
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For the first time in its history, America's credit rating has been downgraded.
It's not just a blow to our nation's image, it's a step that may come with real costs -- for government and individuals -- in the form of higher interest rates for borrowing.
S&P specifically cited a $4 trillion figure as what it believed would be needed for a meaningful deficit reduction package. (Source) Democrats rightfully argued that reaching $4 trillion meant that the wealthy and corporations would need to pay their fair share. But Boehner refused all reasonable offers, instead bowing to his Tea Party fanatics, and their obsession with no revenue increase whatsoever.
Because of this Tea Party fanaticism, and because of Boehner's unwillingness to stand up to it, the downgrade proceeded as threatened.
The only way to make a serious dent in the deficit is to raise revenues by making the ultra rich and corporations pay their fair share.
Thus, it is directly the responsibility of the Tea Party. Tea Party fanatics are responsible for the damage to America's reputation. And Tea Party fanatics, allegedly so concerned about the deficit, are also responsible for the higher deficits that will likely result from the increased cost of borrowing.
Speaker Boehner, it is time to stop kowtowing to these Tea Party extremists, to accept revenue increases, and to put America's interests above political interests.
Please sign and and send petition because its America vs.the Tea Party , and we need your help too to fight these fanatics,...G.
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rick2740
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Rick is peeeo’d
Again Washington just gave 550 million dollars to Africa, Washington is spending millions on tour busses and then Congress has the mordacity to cut retirement for soldiers’! These are men and women whom are losing life and limbs to fight for our freedom! Shame on Congress!
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rick2740
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Georgia_Jim
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Forget about the Tea party, it is Wallstreet pulling the stings, they own all the poltical leaders including Obama and control our legal system. The tea party is just a front man, with no power.
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rick2740
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Georgia_Jim:
I agree, or even guess that Congress pulls the strings or is in cahoots with Wall Street.
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rick2740
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rick2740
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Okay, Richard is PeeeO’D
“Hello America just gave 550 million dollars to Africa- but I’m sorry we in Washington can’t sustain social security, we in Washington can’t sustain, unemployment insurance since you’ve been layed off from your job! Oh and so sorry you were evicted from your home- Americans’! So sorry we in Washington are threating the cutting off of your tax earned social security and Medicare!- This begs to question:
“What so you in Washington couldn’t have at the very least gave half of that 550 million to social security to Medicare and to jobless helpless out of work Americans’? And then sent the other half to Africa, that I would condone without judgments! - 10 months ago
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Buckeye_Bill
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"Speaker Boehner, it is time to stop kowtowing to these Tea Party extremists..."
Yeah. And stop drinking their "tea". It stains your teeth a brownish, yellowish, greenish color. And we wouldn't want your color to change.
We're just getting used to "radioactive ruddy".
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Buckeye_Bill
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inge4art
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Great post. Thank you figgdimension.
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inge4art
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percipi224
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I just want to know who paid Moodys to downgrade. They don't do diddly unless they are paid. As if it means anything except the bond marke, just as I predicted has made out like bandits along with the hedge funds.
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percipi224
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percipi224:
Follow the money trail and you'll answer your own question. I read the
words they chose to cite in their rationale. They were true enough but
anything but the genuine motive, assumably. Like the Banksters they
don't make a move without being paid. - 10 months ago
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PressCore
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This is symptomatic of why humans are expected to be extinct on Earth
within the next 100 years. It's not because 40 times as many changes
are expected to happen within the next 50 years alone. Nor is it due
to the fact that there are 5 Billion more people living only marginaly
now, because of Big Oil, are totaly unsustainable because the Earth
has never been able to sustain more than 1-2 Billion throughout human
prehistory. It's because 1. Humans are so fascinated with machines that
they'll design superhuman A.I. machines to take their place. Why ?
Because there's so much of the nazi in humans' emulation of machines
that they've made themselves into machine mind zombies. 2. They
know all too well the system of money they created to regulate human
behavior inherently makes people unequal to each other. So the
extreme climate changes coming will crash human civilizations, businesses,
and Governments as what happened to the humans on Easter Island...Humans know they'll mindlessly adhere to the status quo of money is
our God past the point of no return. We live in a culture where people
buy lottery tickets not because they want to help fund public education,
but because they dream of being Millionaires. The bizzaro thing about
our economy & monentary system is that the present is based on the
future, which is absurd. The future isn't promised to anyone or anythng.
In the past when the American monentary system was Constitutional,
though inadequate per se, people knew there was so security in life.,
That they bought their future one day at a time by developing viable
backups until they could recover enough to make progress again. What
we see now is symptomatic of the end of the 1st stage of 3 of the end of
the American Empire. It will happen to even the Chinese too, and also
the Russians, as it will happen to the world of humans all over this earth.Our system is so inherently flawed, that by adhering to it, people will
expire with astonished looks on their faces never understanding that
the inequities of our failed system will paralyze us in the end so badly
that what's happening to Americans will happen to the world. The T.E.A.
party, as machination of the Koch's, is a prime example of money inequity
that humans won't be able to adopt to with all the changes overwhelming
them. I don't advocate Communism, because it's essential humans own
private property, and have limited Government. But it's tragicly clear that
our failed, rotten to the core corrupt system can't be reformed without
radical action taken to create a system that actively seeks to bring children
out of poverty, instead of an evil one seeking to put them into it, where
the only jobs they'll have are military foreign war fodder. - 10 months ago
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PressCore:
Great comment. Thank you.
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inge4art
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PressCore
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inge4art:
You're welcome. Thanks.
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It's the T.E.A. party, God damn it. I wish people would stop and think
before they mindlessly, carelessly parrot the Koch Bros created, diseased
abomination. They have nothing in common with the Boston Tea party
of Massachusetts colonial History. And despite the too easily mind
controled manipulation of the Big Money over the masses of sheeple,
there's still no earthly justification whatsoever to accept falsehoods as
though there were no difference between them and the truth. Wake up
and stop spreading their phony shit like you're farmers spreading manure
on dirt. My God. don't you ever get tired or embarrased about being played
for fools. Get hold of yourselves, and start writing with intelligence & honesty. - 10 months ago
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ithink
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The rich people and anti tax tea partiers must home school their children because I don,t know of any school that would teach you to spend 100,000 dollars on campaigns and lobbiests to cut your tax bill by 75,000
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figgdimension
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nice ....tea party is so horrible and fake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU-_mvNdhdk - 10 months ago
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amd14Rznrc8&feature=share
Low life at its finest!!!!!!!
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figgdimension
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harleyblueswoman:
hahaha great vid
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figgdimension
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Let’s talk briefly about Boehner’s three favorite words when he talks about the liberal Democratic Party..."Tax and Spend". The right wing, in charge of all three branches of our government, taxed and spent hundreds of billions on a war that never should have been. Much of that money left this country from my pocket, from your pockets never to return. Hundreds of millions, maybe more, simply disappeared from irresponsible right wing, republican hands. All of this under people who call themselves “fiscal conservatives??????????????”
When progressive liberals “tax and spend” it is for our own seniors, our children’s education and health care. That money stays in this country and circulates keeping our economy afloat. Every dime we spend to educate, care for and feed those in need goes to help our citizens keep their jobs. EVERY DIME!!! We can follow that money to the grocery stores and the pharmacies where they say, “Thank you for your patronage which helps me stay employed and pay the taxes that keep this country running and of course, replace some of the money that Boehner and his crowd flushed down a desert toilet.” Mr. Boehner, will you PLEASE take me to the hole in the desert on the other side of the world where you buried billions of American tax-payer dollars? If you want to find the biggest waster of our hard earned money, FIND THE NEAREST MIRROR!
By the way, Mr. Boehner, if we ever meet please call me the most liberal person you ever met so that I can smile land say, “Thank you sir. Thank you for that well-considered compliment. It simply means that I reject the ‘values’ you embrace... selfishness and greed. - 10 months ago
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radsing:
Your right. Thank you
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Milieu
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These Effing people can't hit the floor with their hats even if given 3 tries.
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Watch this little clip if you want to get an idea of the Tea Party agenda that people are signing on to...these idiots, as personified by this dolt is who were able to extort the last budget deal...watch this and tell me that people with this mindset should be calling the shots, culturally, or economically...
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Tyr:
I sure wish I would have seen this sooner. My first question would be 'Is that a telepromter he is reading from?' And then I would respond to his question is he or is he not biased against people of color? I'm a white guy and I do not support this guys statement in any way, shape, or form. What you see here is an asshole bully who likes to push people around and has never had his ass kicked by someone smaller than him. All he lacks is a wife beater T-shirt to complete the set.
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Straighttalker
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By 2012 the Tea Party will be called another name. They will be finished.
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Straighttalker:
Yup, the cry party.
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Straighttalker
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S&P does not have the financial acumen to state the dollar amount that would provide financial stability. That was evidenced in their previous ratings of the Wall Street firms that went belly up.
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Straighttalker:
Not to mention the mortgage-backed securities that were just bundles of high-risk mortgages that they rated AAA investments. They couldn't find their Triple A with both hands...
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the tea party and americans for prosperity are both the product of the Koch Bros!! Created to help bring down President Obama!!!!! As soon as he was elected they went into action!!!!!!!!! I would say most of the people in these organizations do not even realize it themselves....
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Buckeye_Bill
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Palin/Bachmann 2012!
A Palin/ Bachmann ticket will suceed!
}8^)
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Buckeye_Bill:
Why not let them run!
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The Tea Party is not a political movement, per se. They are made up of Christians who want a better life for all in America!
}8^D - me vomiting.
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Buckeye_Bill:
Their no Christians.
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Buckeye_Bill
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I am shocked. I didn't know there were that many, many...oh, I can't bring myself to curse.
My mother raised me to not say anything if I have only bad things to say about others.
So, I shall let Lance Baxter speak for me!
}8^D
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Buckeye_Bill:
Yes let Lance speak, he says what you really want to say
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figgdimension
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Buckeye_Bill:
LOove it :)
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figgdimension
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Buckeye_Bill:
Good post! You mother raised you well.
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letsliveinpeace
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Buckeye_Bill:
I like the end of this video, nobody is stopping them.
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Just finished reading "23 Things they don't tell you about Capitalism" by Ha-Joon Chang, which completely shreds the free-market capitalism theoretical structure the Republican party has been using to justify their war on the poor for the past 40 years.
Also, it has some real, concrete & people-friendly ways to make our economy more stable, equitable & resistant to the kinds of fluctuations that have wiped out the small amounts of wealth of families that depend on things like salaries & housing to survive & build their nest eggs.
Chang argues that:
We live in a regulated capitalist economy, always have & always will. It's just that the forms of regulation that have lasted the longest (and perhaps those that work the best) become invisible to people within the economy - e.g. child labor, unthinkable now, was once decried for depriving kids of salaries.
Free market policies don't make rich countries rich, & poor countries did better before the IMF & rich nations began forcing free market policies on those countries that small-d democratic forces in richer nations have resisted.
Making the rich richer doesn't improve finances for the rest of us (duh - but Chang demonstrates with 4-part harmony & full orchestration WHY)
New financial products shouldn't be unleashed unless the creators/promoters can prove they aren't harmful to the economy, especially in the long run. We regulate drugs, food safety, car safety, etc., so there is precedent.
And much more.....
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figgdimension
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TrishR:
nice ill check it out thanks for the post and good info (wink);)
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figgdimension
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figgdimension:
Thanks, figgdimension,
It's not only a worthwhile book, but a pretty quick read. I enjoyed it.
Also, Ha-Joon Chang appeared on Book TV on CSpan recently.
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TrishR
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figgdimension
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TrishR:
cool thanks on my list
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figgdimension
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rick2740
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I did not post this media Sh*** I donot know how that lached on to my responsonse and I appoligise!!!
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rick2740
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figgdimension
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rick2740:
no worries :)
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figgdimension
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Can't go there with you..perhaps the T Party was a catalyst, but this has been coming for a long time. Seems the beltway has no regard for the butterfly effect of their actions. Stressing out America for no reason...and press still insists we had to go to the brink, when Obama has the authority to raise the debt ceiling without all the DRAMA...This market plunge was predicted...And now Andrea Mitchell has the audacity to say there is no hope??? Her hubby Greenspan started all this! She's lucky I am a Quaker...
This is me in my Quaker quiet.
Uɷoos - 10 months ago
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KurtLewin:
PPPLLLLLEEAAASSSE...
If Barack Obama has lost Andrea Mitchell, has he lost the MSM?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2011/08/05/andrea-mitchell-everyon...
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KurtLewin:
Special relationships aside, I have always been concerned about the use of "Foreign Correspondent". Ted Turner understood the importance of language, and called the position International Correspondent
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2009/08/28/andrea-mitchell-gratu...
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Dylan Ratigan has stated on MSNBC the 60 billion dollars a year are given to a select few of the richest in America as tax cuts! People this 60 billion dollars that could pay back our unemployment insurance and 60 billion that could pay back our tax earned social security, Medicare, Medicaid! Dylan Ratigan urges us the good people of America to write to him if you too are mad as hell!
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rick2740
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Lets face the truth, there is no dealing with the tea party. They are batshit crazy, dangerous f#%&ing morons.Example; their intense hatred of Pres. Obama ....nuff said.
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rick2740
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Economy
Just yesterday I saw on the news that American government is giving 5 billion to starving kids in Africa and the government is telling us the working and retired and disabled people of America that the government can’t keep social security going, then why are they giving 5 billion to starving kids in Africa so there’re starving retirees and disabled, and unemployed in America!? Although I have deep sympathy for starving African Children; I am puzzled? - 10 months ago
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rick2740:
I have said for a long time that subsidies paid to farmers not to grow crops should be paid to grow crops solely for the use of charitable aid from America just like this. We pay farmers to let their fields go unfarmed while people in the world starve, its amazing.
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joynoel:
You gave a good comment. I have often wonderd why this happens.
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joynoel:
I think the GOP is going to have to keep an eye on you. Note: this person is much too practical, do not allow them to spread their unsavory pragmatism around.
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warman1138
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Does this mean we can curse them in public for being tools and fools of corporations? Maybe stricter laws to prevent inbreeding, reducing the number of people that carry the gullibility gene.
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warman1138:
i think its a go ...
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figgdimension
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Mayeffie
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Done!
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Tyr
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I'm going to get right to the point and the bottom line...I am posting a list of the nations most successful and least successful states..you will see for yourselves what conservatives economic policies and cultural values have done for the states that they control and now the tea party / conservatives would like to visit these same policies and values on the United States as a whole....if they are successful in this endeavor which clearly they have been, as evidenced by the debt ceiling accord that they ushered in, then the United States as a whole can now take on the financial characteristics of Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, et al....the places that conservatives rule the roost. here are the links...I don't make the numbers the facts ARE THE FACTS: Read them and weep
http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/16/news/economy/Americas_wealthiest_states/index.ht...
http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/politics/red-blue-states-summary.htm
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Tyr:
very educating. Thanks for drawing the parallel between those States controlled by Republicans and the poverty that the citizens live in. This is how the tea party wants the whole country run?
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Tyr:
thanks for the info and graphic
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Tyr:
Weep is right. I can't believe the avg. IQ for this country's kids. I know I'm no Socrates, but damn… we really need to do something about our Dept. of Education.
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Tyr:
Also, interestingly, the Blue States get less money back from the federal government than they put in, and the Red states get more than they put in.
Also, the argument that cities, states & national governments need to reduce taxes on businesses to stay or not flee is B.S. Consider NYC, some of the highest taxes in the nation, corporations might threaten to leave for Jersey, but mostly don't. Not only that, but look at how many rich people who can choose to live anywhere in the country, choose to live in NYC. In heavily-taxed NYC, not only have many fortunes been made in real estate despite high taxes on everything - land, sales, salaries etc., but also during much of the 20th century, all the businesses involved in the building trades, restaurants, catering, etc., paid extra, illegal payments, essentially an illegal form of taxation - to the Mob. So even when paying high taxes, and paying under-the-table money to organized crime, fortunes were made. Hmmm.
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TrishR:
I was in Manhattan on business 2 weeks ago and I can tell you that the amount of construction was amazing...scaffolds were everywhere they are currently in the process of building what will be the words highest residential unit. Every restaurant I went to was packed, dept stores the same..in other words prosperity and a great deal of it! Most of the property in Manhattan cannot be purchased for anything less than 7 figures , so yes when some of the worlds wealthiest CHOOSE to live and do business there.... that fact alone should put to rest the myth that high taxes run business and wealth off...what utter nonsense.
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Dusty_King:
So true, and what is the VERY first thing that conservatives attack..higher education, there is a regular rant about the poor kids in college getting 'brainwashed" by all these liberal professors, in budget battles the very first item on the conservative hit list is public education...they like them dumb and easily led by pied pipers such as Limbaugh, Hannity et al.
Thomas jefferson was the biggest supporter, advocate for public education because he knew that an uneducated populace could and would be easily manipulated by tyrants. That lack of education is the primary reason that empty headed individuals like Palin, Bachmann, Glen Beck, etc get so much applause. - 10 months ago
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SandyBerman:
you said it all...
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SandyBerman:
go, go, go. So true and so sad at the same time.
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SandyBerman:
Good rant Sandy. Keep them coming.
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The Teabaggers will kill America for the sake of their so-called principles (a euphemism for demands) of no taxation and no government spending.
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rustyred:
yup... very true rusty.
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The Tea Party is not a third party. The are within the Republican party. Too many people think they are some sort of an alternative. They're not. They are bought and paid for by special interests to help push the far right agenda. It's the Reps who fed that monster, now they have to live with it. Sadly, Boner will not stop feeding the monster, either.
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Leen61:
You are correct Leen61.
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rustyred:
Thank you, rustyred.
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Leen61:
I think they ARE the GOP - they are the trial balloon for the GOP's more radical ideas, so that any of their nefarious ideas that are recognized as going too far, the GOP can pull back & say, "oh, no, that's not us, that those crazy frosh."
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TrishR:
You have a good point there, Trish.
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Leen61:
Thanks, Leen
Oh, & congrats on the two seats snatched back from the jowls of the GOP
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TrishR:
You're welcome, Trish. "Oh, & congrats on the two seats snatched back from the jowls of the GOP" Thank you! :)
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You guys have to get this correct. David Beers of Standard & Poors said that Cut, Cap and Balance would have prevented it. Only Tea Party ideads would have prevented this and certainly not the ideas of Obummer and liberlas in his party. The premise of this thread is outright dishonest indeed it it a lie. It is not the fault of the Tea Party.
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Paratus:
Wrong, wrong, wrong. http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/08/05/289861/breaking-s-p-downgrades-u-s-c...
"The statutory debt ceiling and the threat of default have become political bargaining chips in the debate over fiscal policy.
[...]It appears that for now, new revenues have dropped down on the menu of policy options.
[...]The act contains no measures to raise taxes or otherwise enhance revenues, though the committee could recommend them."
"We have changed our assumption on this because the majority of Republicans in Congress continue to resist any measure that would raise revenues, a position we believe Congress reinforced by passing the act."
Tea party ideals call for NO revenue, none, nada, zip, zilch... That is one of the reasons for the downgrade. Try to spin it all you want but it is there in black in white. All I can do is post it, I cant make you understand it.
Obama was willing to cut 4 trillion dollars, 4 TRILLION dollars - republicans said, no thanks. The republicans POS bill cuts far less than that.
People are not stupid. They are paying attention now and see exactly what the republicans and tea partiers are willing to do to get their way.
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moodyblue:
Thanks for posting and agreed.voted up
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Paratus:
BULLSHIT!!!!!
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Paratus:
Cutting the debt by $14.7 billion would have avoided the downgrading, but at what costs?? If the terapubicans had just extended the debt ceiling and addressed the debt in Congress we would not have been downgraded either !!
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Yes, but he said it Chris Wallace on FOX News, so it doesn't count. I don't understand how a wholly owned subsidiary of a publisher (McGraw Hill) has ANY say in what ANYTHING - except how the Company is run. Beers is an a-hole. He got it all wrong in 08 saying the investment banks and mortgage companies were all in great shape - he should hang up his mouth, now. Talk about "corporate interests." That's all Beers and Chambers care about - they're not elected, like all the rest of the big mouth corporatists - trying to get a leg up. They made a 2trillion math error, and pre-released the big announcement to several big companies - so then they couldn't pull the downgrade announcement back. Can you spell L-O-S-E-R-S??
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freecrack
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battle royal
- 10 months ago
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WagonMaster
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Sadly, Boehner only seems to have a pair when dealing with the POTUS.
- 10 months ago
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What's going to be interesting is when a good number of the Tea Party's ranks figure out how hoodwinked they really got. I'd say that's the day this country goes into a REAL revolution.
- 10 months ago
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Vic_Romano:
awesome gif ...three mutant thumbs up and (hat tip)
- 10 months ago
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figgdimension:
I figured you'd dig it.
- 10 months ago
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awizard2u
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Perduellious_jettatura:
And your source is .....?
- 10 months ago
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maasanova
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Tea Party didn't secretly give $16 trillion in free money to financial institutions around the world, the Federal Reserve Private Banking Institution did.
Should be America against the Federal Reserve and Wall Street.
- 10 months ago
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maasanova:
well, start a movement massa...you seem very capable, perhaps you should show us how its done .
- 10 months ago
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maasanova:
Start somewhere positive before knocking it down friend if you have some input why do you not voice your opinions within a system that would benefit from your observations and musings rather than uniformly dismissing every campaign and petition Im involved with . I have yet to see any positive influence or relevant petition of anything you have posted any thoughts as to why you have so much to say in the negative but have no definitive vision other than kill the Fed, yes Im very aware of that problem too thanks for pointing that out on this unrelated post about the fanatical Tea Party. We need unity massa and a direct vision perhaps you should lead.. patiently awaiting your actions... :)
- 10 months ago
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figgdimension
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figgdimension:
I didn't know it was your campaign! Don't take it personal, but I don't think that this campaign is helpful, and in fact, IMO, it's quite harmful to blame a group of people that really aren't responsible for what you're trying to pin on them.
I don't think I'm capable of leading any mass movement, but perhaps I'll give it a shot.
The Tea Party was against the largely bi-partisan TARP which was responsible for the largest transfer of wealth since the Gold Confiscation order of 1933 inder FDR, so aside from partisan sillyness, I can't understand why the Tea Party is being scapegoated.
- 10 months ago
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maasanova:
"I can't understand why the Tea Party is being scapegoated."
After the 2010 elections and taxes not being raised as part of the debt ceiling issue, the left fears the Tea Party. The left feels if it doesn't destroy the Tea Party before the 2012 elections the Republicans will maintain the House, win the Senate and the presidency.
- 10 months ago
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maasanova:
Its not mine per say.... i work for many progressive groups its "our" Campaign as are all that I post I am a Member of Moveon credo ruckus,and many more but thanks for the compllment im good just not quite that good, power in numbers :)
- 10 months ago
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figgdimension
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Warren_Merrill:
hello Warren thanks for the observations....
- 10 months ago
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maasanova:
i like that too thats why we are also doing this
http://current.com/shows/current-tonight/93387896_occupy-wall-street-september-1... - 10 months ago
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maasanova:
I didn't take it personal ... thanks , and I welcome your opinion anytime dear.Your always a pleasure
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maasanova:
the tea party wasn't in existence when TARP was funded by George Bush's Congress! Lord, help me.
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figgdimension:
Yup I saw that on the updates!
- 10 months ago
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maasanova:
no the tea party take the economic position of the psycho ex.
if we cant have the money no one will, as they pull the perverbial grenade insuring everyone is worse off in the end
- 10 months ago
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figgdimension:
oh please dont encourage him.
- 10 months ago
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