‘Profiteers of Misery’: The U.S. Private Prison Industrial Complex
source: http://www.nationofchange.org/profiteers-misery-us-private-prison-industrial-complex-1314288737
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Inter Press Service/News Analysis
Published: Thursday 25 August 2011
News Analysis: “By the end of 2010, the United States was home to 25 percent of the world’s inmates, with roughly 2.4 million people behind bars and over seven million under "correctional supervision". In any given year, 13 million people pass through the U.S. detention system, which includes federal and state facilities; Native American, juvenile, military and local jails; U.S. detention centres overseas and holding centres operated by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Elsie Scott, president of the Black Congressional Caucus, said at a press conference in D.C. earlier this year that the bill for housing prisoners was astronomical - at nearly 68 dollars a day per person.”
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alexandrek:
And we are but bit players in their giant scheme of things!
Isn't life strange?
It makes me want to cry out in total disgust!
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alexandrek:
You mean like a Super Duper Wally World?
You can't forget about the Super Duper Fast Food Franchises that feeds us up to the point of explosion!
LOL...no seriously...I TOTALLY agree!
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The problem is so large I dont even know where to begin. The cops that make arrest are corrupt, the judges - corrupt.
The entire judicial system is slanted and discriminates against the poor and minorities.
Then you have legislators enacting draconian laws like the immigrant law in AZ.... all of which leads to more people in prison.
More money in the pockets of these wealthy assholes who are running the show(without any real accountability, who is going to police them? Themselves, that's who), more money in "campaign" contributions to political officials.. and in turn, the poor get treated like slave labor, minorities get longer jail sentences for the same crimes as their white counterparts, and innocent people sit for years in a prison system that is set up to say.. you're in, fuck off! we don't care about you!.It's shameful.
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moodyblue:
OMG off subject but your avitar just made me spit up my milk laughing thats an awsom avitar....only thing that would make it better would be if you could put one of thos helmets on the elephant head. lmao!
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hombre76
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Only a fool would think privatizing the penal system makes sense. It's just plain wrong.
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mybologna
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This is the only way Republicans can stay in power. People in prison can't vote.
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mybologna:
Their other eveil plan is to close public schools to keep the masses ignorant so they won't vote, either!
They have ways....that they haven't incorporated yet, too!
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mybologna
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Florida's correctional system's head just resigned over this issue. Rick Perry is determined to expand private prisons in the Sunshine State.
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mybologna
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mybologna:
And what does Rick Scott have to say about that? You'd think he would feel as if an outsider is taking over his kingdom.
I'm sure Mr. Scott has his own plans!
What is it with people named Rick? Or Scott...either as a first or last name?
Like Scott Walker.
Or people with the name Walker...as either a middle or last name?
Bizarre!
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Buckeye_Bill:
Sorry, I meant Rick Scott.
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mybologna:
LMAO! I don't think it really makes one iota difference if you were to swap them out!
You'd get the same results, now wouldn't you?"Six of one...half a dozen of the other" scenario?
You do have a very good excuse.
To see the difference between one Republican and the next, one would need an electron microscope!
LOL
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noxidereus
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This is why cannabis remains illegal. The profit motive bastardizes and destroys everything. The only reason why such a screwed up system as ours is allowed to continue is because the American people as a whole are made to be ignorant by our perception-manipulating media and we thus become our own enslavers.
Money isn't the real currency. The currency of America and any other nation that sells a false reality is the people's perceptions. The more minds one possesses, the more wealth and power one may generate for oneself. The prison industrial complex is a tool of power and control over the people.
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They are passing out felonies to first and non violent offenders far too easy. So many kids are getting felonies in college or right out of college. Kids that are hopeful and trying to make their way. Just to have their dreams crushed by a mistake. I know all about It because I am one of them. Having a felony on your record basically turns you into an untouchable when it comes to anything that would require a college degree. With the proliferation of struggling hard working people more people are turning to crime then ever before to make their way. Like one of my buddies. He was trying his hardest to pay off his child support bills while still staying afloat himself. When he couldn't pay them off they took his licence. Now he loses his job because he was denied a provisional work licence. When he does get a new job he figures all he can do is drive to work. He gets caught 3 times. With the 3 strikes law. He is now a felon. All the while still caring for the child. And trying to keep his distance from his crazy wife. He is now has nothing no house no car no money and a felony on his record. Because he had to drive to drive to work to pay those bills. How will he pay them now? This is just another flawed cog in the system pushing us further in the wrong direction.
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enjoiart:
It is a crime to be poor.
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Anonmaly
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Most states went from having 3-4 state prisons in the 70's to now a prison in every county (with some states having more than that)......
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hombre76
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if caging an animal is inhumane why is it not also to cage a human being?
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hombre76:
Because ignorant people missue the wor "inhumane"...to should not be used to describe what one human beng does to an animal, in my estimation. It ought to be reserved to human to human interaction only. How can an animal be treated either humanely, for instance?
Their animals.
There in lies the problem. Too many humans love and treat pets better than they would their own species.
I'm all for treating animals like animals, i.e., with respect towards ALL life.
Like a bear being treated like a bear! He doesn't want to be treated like a human, dancing about on his hind legs. Nor would he want to be treated like a chimpanzee, either!
I think it's absurd to dress up animals or expect them to have qualities similar to human beings.
My two cent's worth.
That was the way of my ancestors on my father's branch ot this human tree. They considered ALL life related as brothers and sisters, nut they didn't try to "tame" them until the white man came with horses.
That wasn't the ONLY bad example they learned from the "occupiers" of their Lands, nor the last.
P.S. They never had one prison, either!
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Billy Rose was a low rider, Billy Rose was a night fighter
Billy Rose knew trouble like the sound of his own name
Busted on a drunken charge
Driving someone else's car
The local midnight sheriff's claim to fameIn an Arizona jail there are some who tell the tale how
Billy fought the sergeant for some milk that he demanded
Knowing they'd remain the boss
Knowing he would pay the cost
They saw he was severely reprimandedIn the blackest cell on "A" Block
He hanged himself at dawn
With a note stuck to the bunk head
Don't mess with me, just take me homeCome and lay,
help us lay,
Young Billy downLuna was a Mexican the law called an alien
For coming across the border with a baby and a wife
Though the clothes upon his back were wet
Still he thought that he could get
Some money and things to start a lifeIt hadn't been too very long when it seemed like everything went wrong
They didn't even have the time to find themselves a home
This foreigner, a brown-skin male
Thrown into a Texas jail
It left the wife and baby quite aloneHe eased the pain inside him
With a needle in his arm
But the dope just crucified him
He died to no one's great alarmCome and lay, help us lay
Young Luna down
And we're gonna raze, raze the prisons
To the groundKilowatt was an aging con of 65 who stood a chance to stay alive
And leave the joint and walk the streets again
As the time he was to leave drew near
He suffered all the joy and fear
Of leaving 35 years in the penAnd on the day of his release he was approached by the police
Who took him to the warden walking slowly by his side
The warden said "You won't remain here
But it seems a state retainer
Claims another 10 years of your life."He stepped out in the Texas sunlight
The cops all stood around
Old Kilowatt ran 50 yards
Then threw himself down on the groundThey might as well just have laid
The old man down
And we're gonna raze, raze the prisons
To the ground
Help us raze, raze the prisons
To the groundJoan Baez -prison trilogy-1971
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hombre76:
This ol' world has a way of chewing up human beings and then spitting them out when they've lost their "flavor".
Even those who were sent overseas to fight in useless wars.....well, except for the MIC and their "shareholders" who peddle death throughout the whole, entire world!
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Buckeye_Bill:
Come you masters of war
You that build the big guns
You that build the death planes
You that build all the bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks.Bob Dylan -Masters of War-
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hombre76:
"Blood and destruction shall be so in use
And dreadful objects so familiar
That mothers shall but smile when they behold
Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war;
All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
Cry Havoc, and let slip the dogs of war;
That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial."The Bard of Avon - Julius Caesar (1601)
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warman1138
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It's all about control and profit to be gained from exercising that control.
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No wonder we lock up more people per capita than anywhere else on earth, we are a gulag for profit nation. Welcome to America and become a jailbird for corporate profit. The only people not going to jail are the ones that deserve it most, wall street,GOP lying torturing war mongers,corporate shills and puppets, ecetra..
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warman1138:
Not only per-capita. We have a higher actual number of prisoners than any other nation, including China. Using this measure, China is a freer country than is America aka "the land of the free".
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Keep the war on drugs rolling. Build more prisons, that's what makes America great. It not our freedoms it's the control that makes us #1. We help Afghanistan grow it and then put people in prison for using it. War is Peace.
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KB723
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There is much money to be made by Imprisoning us all... =(
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chew_chew
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Privatizing the prison system should be punishable by incarceration in it. Another example of our society which places profit before people.
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Time to stop the systematic disenfranchisement of black men through the prison system...every vote counts in this election!!!
see New Sentencing Guidelines For Crack, New Challenges
"The legal fights stem from a decision last year by the U.S. Sentencing Commission to amend guidelines and reduce prison time for crack offenders.Defense lawyers say they are correcting systemic sentencing flaws that removed their clients, mostly black men, from their communities for too many years."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/31/AR2008
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KurtLewin:
Those in power ALWAYS pick on the minority class because there's less chance of an uprising from the fewer numbers of that group. And they seem to have less suport from the majority, too.
It's that "I'm glad it's not happening to me" mentality.
People seem to not understand that the Bill of Rights was written to PROTECT the minority from power of the MAJORITY!
Not the other way around!
Just ask MY ancestors.....how far it got them to trust what the white man promised and went back on EVERY Treaty EVER signed by this government!
Ok, maybe it did happen over one hundred years ago...so what? Nothing has changed, has it?
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Buckeye_Bill:
and women of all races and ages. we now have the tyranny of the minority over the majority. de toqueville (sp?) never saw this coming.
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percipi224:
It's been done before...and before that...and before that...well, you get the idea!
Viva La France and long live King Louis XVI!
Who arrested as part of the insurrection and on August 10, 1792 during the French Revolution, he was tried by the National Convention, found guilty of high treason, and executed by guillotine on 21 January 1793.
"Oh dear, Mr. Natch! I hope the Blue Meanies don't come for me today! I'm very busy!"
"I have a gold mosquito net to catch those diamond butterflies that surround my pearl-encrusted flower garden. But you should see my wonderfully white whale as he swims around in my pool tugging at my pink elephant's trunk! They laugh all day as I play music on my calliope made of jewels. My Mother makes my clothes using silver threads and golden needles as we nibble on morsels made by Kaushik Chowdhury!"
"Oh dear, dear, dear! Time for my nap. I shall lay on my bed of soft, virgin hair plucked from the vestal maidens of the Palace of Versailles!"
"Ta Ta! La vie n'a jamais été meilleure! Je suis désolé pour tous les péons vous!”
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Buckeye_Bill:
CORPORATE INQUISTION ATTACK BANKERS CEO AND CORPORATIONS
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Militarized law enforcement will eventually effect you too!
The Gestapo has been bred into our Country via Corporate giants...how,when do we fight back ? Every day we have more and more proof of what these corporate giants are doing to us, yet we stand by and allow it to continue....at some point we who speak out will be sought out and silenced ...this is no longer a free Country we are slaves with imaginary freedoms. - 9 months ago
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nikonwilly:
Sad, but I fear you could be correct. In my heart of hearts, I thought if we could get a Democrat elected President, things would change.
I don't know if it's because Republicans are forcing President Obama to make decisions, which are against his better judgement? But, when I look at who he has chosen to lead in (potentially dangerous) positions, I wonder? Many are the one's I would think would be under investigation. But, instead have been chosen to lead.
He doesn't seem to be hurting the Private Prison Industry, does he? What's an American voter to do? I don't want to disparage President Obama, but I don't think we should remain silent to his wrongs either. They all must be held accountable when they make decisions, which hurt us as a country. The Constitution was written to 'protect' US, 'We the People'. We 'are' being torn apart from within!
So many people are talking at any given time, they just turn us all off and do what they want. Sad, sad, sad!
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Conniepae:
I fear that with the kind of rulings that has been handed down from the SCOTUS...with people have to right to carry a weapon to an Obama rally because it's their RIGHT...people can speak disparagingly of the President of the United States because it's their RIGHT...people can carry concealed weapons into bars, public places, churches and schools because it's their RIGHT...
All of these "rulings" seem to promote the ripping apart of the "social fabric" to the point that nothing is left but shreads of civility between us.
It's as if our government WANTS us to be at each other's throats!
Divide and conquer? Is that their plans?
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Buckeye_Bill:
Follow the money and I think it's obvious who is gaining from this crazy governing. The one's making the decisons won't be hurt if there is civil unrest. Just like the wars on foreign soils, their families will be protected.
People would no doubt profit from civil unrest, while making decisions, far removed from actual unrest. It will be us who suffer the destruction, civil unrest would cause. Blackwater (XE?) will be protecting them. They have the resources to protect themselves and their families from real danger. It will be our families, which will be left unprotected.
Yep, it could be a plan? How many Americans do you think would be 'acceptable' collateral damage?
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Conniepae:
Could this be the Bush Family Plan? I can't say one way or another, myself, but.......
Wonkette reports a bizarre story. The Bush Family has purchased a 98,840 acre ranch through a secretive land trust in Paraguay. The ranch, which is close to the Brazillian and Bolivean border is also located in proximity to natural gas reserves and a large water reserve.
I wonder why the Bushes are quietly purchasing land in Paraguay...where Simon Weisenthal famously hunted down Nazi fugitives? But the story gets wierder.
Read on.
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According to Wonkette, this story is being covered by papers in Cuba, Venezuela and Argentina, but has not yet hit the American presses.The Paraguayan Senate voted last summer to "grant U.S. troops immunity from national and International Criminal Court (ICC) jurisdiction."
Immediately afterwards, 500 heavily armed U.S. troops arrived with various planes, choppers and land vehicles at Mariscal Estigarribia air base, which happens to be at the northern tip of Paraguay near the Bolivian/Brazilian border. More have reportedly arrived since then.
Perhaps our government continuity plan is to be carried out in Paraguay?
Wonkette also reports that Jenna Bush has just returned from an announced ten-day secret diplomatic mission to Paraguay where she met with the President and the US Ambassador, a former military man stationed in countries such as Honduras and El Salvador where the US ran covert operations. The link to the confirmation led to a blank page, so I don't know what to make of it.
Sun Myung Moon also owns a huge ranch in the same neighborhood, according to Wonkette.
Just sayin', food for thought on a sleepless night.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/05/02/507485/-Bush-Buys-Ranch-in-Paraguay:-Pl...
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Conniepae:
You really can't blame the private prison problem on the President, those are state prisons not federal prisons. Why is it that anything and everything becomes Obama's problem and he isn't doing anything? The Executive Branch of the Federal Government has no authority what-so-ever to do anything about state prisons.
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Buckeye_Bill:
Society like any structure under enough pressure breaks, then shit hits the fan. I sometimes wonder if those who rule us truly understands what this means for them.
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Buckeye_Bill:
Like nazis, they can run but they can't hide....for long.
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wynnmeg61:
I don't blame President Obama for our prison problem. I do wish he had pursued Senator Webb to follow through on the commission he formed to look into America's prison overcrowding.
When I went to connect a link to Senator Webb's Commision, I found this: http://webb.senate.gov/issuesandlegislation/criminaljusticeandlawenforcement/Cri... (another thing our media failed to menton). Senator Webb and President Obama are still working on the prison problem.
When I commented yesterday, I was wrong. Things 'are' being investigated to try and change the prison problem in America. Our media only shows President Obama's negatives. They leave us in the dark about anything positive.
I apologize.
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Buckeye_Bill:
Very interesting, Bill. I heard about this a few years ago that the Bush clan was purchasing land there. I see it's still going on. I think they are looking for a place to go just in case somebody, someday wants to try Bush for war crimes.
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Buckeye_Bill:
he is creating his own country!!!! What is happening in the financial sector to allow him to do this? He is leaving! OMG makes machiavelli look like a two bit huckster...
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percipi224:
UGTV,VR!
Oh..BTW...did you get my "rant"?
LOL
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Conniepae:
Not a problem, and you are right this is a media problem creating all this misunderstanding and divisive BS. I simply want everyone to be careful about taking talking points at face value, and to also understand what the President can and cannot do.
The Bush/Cheney Administration overstepped the bounds of the Executive Office so dramatically and outrageously; then got their errand boys in the Congress to legislate curtailing of most of our civil rights, that now many believe that the WH has powers that it just doesn't have.
I also fear that we fall into the hands of the GOP/TP propagandist mind warp, when we blame Obama for not being able to cure all the ills of this country in 3 years time. It took the GOP 50+ years to get us into this horrible shape, it truly defies reason to expect the Obama administration to patch it all in so short a time. That is magical thinking at its worst, expecting miraculous transformation.
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nikonwilly:
What freedoms have I lost? I cen move from one state to another. I can quit a job if I can't stand my boss. I can walk into any store and buy wahtever thell...if I have the money OR if I don't, a credit card to use that I will have to repay - sometme- but that's ot considered a right to have a credit card or to HAVE to repay my debt, I can rany and rave about the Leader of this country wityout the threat of imprisonment because of words spoken - although I think the SCOTUS took it a little too far, I can own a gun - if I wanted to, I can take a vacation and travel the free world - so long as I get a passport, I can do a lot of things!
Could you...RESPECTFULLY SPEAKING HERE, list what I have lost of my "freedoms"?
Please?
(I did say the magic word - Please, too!)
Because I ALWAYS here those Teavangelista/Tea Hadists speak of their freedoms they feel they have lost and I want to ask them, but they get very mad at me when I try!
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Owwwwwww! Fuckin' Fascists!!!
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Vic_Romano:
"Owwwwwww! Fuckin' Fascists!!!"
Whaaaaaaaaa? I hope you're WRONG! We certainly do NOT want them propagating!
LMAO!
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Vic_Romano:
GREAT IMAGE I KNOW THE SOUND SCRIPT THANK YOU MADE MY DAY NOT LIKE THE KING`S STATUE MADE BY COMMUNIST CHINA SHAME.
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DID YOU INCLUDE 50,000 long term inmates in solitary confinement and no record of suicides??? HOW YOU LIKE THEM APPLES NEWTON. GRAVE SITUATION POLICE STATE USA STAZI-NAZI-KGB all wrapped into ONE =CIA GENERAL DAVID BETRAYUS IN CHARGE: DO NOT FORGET SOLDIERS ARE PRISONERS TOO= LAST YEAR 8000 MILITARY SUICIDES= 18 a day
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theknopfknows:
Well, for one, there aren't that many solitary cells to put that amount of soldiers in. Two, I would like to know where 50,000 military prisoners might be held? Levenworth?
Clarify your comment....with substantial information, please.
And three, and the most important point I want to make...I do not feel it is humane to incarcerate another human being for any length of time but to figure out where they should be EXILED for life, rather than put into a cage-like cell.
Cruel and inhumane punishment is what I call it.
Gitmo, too!
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Buckeye_Bill:
CHECK DEMOCRACY NOW ARCHIVES LISTEN TO THE RESEARCH I WORKED CORRECTIONS IN HAWAII I KNOW PRISON SYSTEMS. WAIT MORE FEMA CAMPS AND OLD MILITARY BASES WILL BE TURNED INTO PRISON GO BY SQUARE FOOTAGE LIKE CORPORATIONS DO.
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theknopfknows:
Back Off Boogaloo!
All that which you squat and squirt is just the vile bile you've been force-fed by
"not-all-there" fearmongers.Buh Bye....
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Buckeye_Bill:
STUCK ON STUPID CAN`T FACE THE TRUTH CAN`T hear it from others,
WHATS LEFT you and YOU.
SO TAKE your HEAD OUT OF YOUR EXTERIOR AND JOIN HUMAN RACE! - 9 months ago
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theknopfknows:
I FULLY understand where you are getting your "point of view" and it's not where I would want my head!
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50 thousand dollars times twenty years equals a million dollars
50000x20=1000000and my momma said i will never be worth anything.....
only if i dont get caught......
we got lots of career politicians we need to fill them prizons with..
open the books .... and fire the crooks...
oh and
LEGAFRIGGIN LIZE IT....
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40 PERCENT OF MURDERS
50 PERCENT OF ASSAULTS
60 PERCENT OF RAPESGO UNSOLVED...
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hunzedog:
Amen! Did I say Amen? Amen!
- 9 months ago
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OlBlue
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The right-wingnuts are well on their way to privatizing everything, schools, prisons, war, you name it. Next, it will be the police, then government itself. This country is doomed if these extreme factions succeed with their agenda.
- 9 months ago
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OlBlue:
They might as well be privatized! Call for an ambulance..$1,000.00 with no guarantees of when they arrive PLUS a dollar per mile to, NOT the nearest hospital, but the one they want to take you to, or is the "on call hospital" that's the desginated "trauma unit" for that night!
And they are talking about charging for sending officers to answer you 911 call if they decide you didn't have an emergency and was wasting their time!
Seven years ago I had AT&T as my local phone service. I called when I didn't have dial-tone. I've been in telecommunications since 1975 and checked to verify that the problem was theirs. They informed me that if they came out and found no problem I would be charged $75 for the service fee if it was my problem because I declined their $2.00/month service agreement. I think they do that crap to generate money and rip off little old ladies and get people to pay that 2 bucks each month! Guess what? They didn't "find" a problem and I had dial-tone again and I would be sent the bill! I contacted the public utilities office for the state of Ohio, and AT&T was shocked I did that. Well, I no longer owed the bill and I got rid of them the next day!
- 9 months ago
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Buckeye_Bill:
Yeah Bill, we'd probably be better off calling a cab to get to the hospital. At least you could see what the meter was charging you and for five bucks you could get the cabbie to turn around and punch you in the chest every few minutes.
Good for you for calling AT&T on their BS. My son was on location working on a commercial and talking with me on his cell and it dropped the call. Guess who the commercial was for................
- 9 months ago
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OlBlue
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OlBlue:
Yes to the cabbie! And he'd probably get on scene quicker than an ambulance, too! I have a neighbor who has had to call because of terrible attacks and I monitored how long it took the paramedics to drive ONE MILE...30 minutes....and I KNOW they were at the firehouse because I ASKED and they admitted it. They said it was thier shift change and they had to do the key swap stuff.
Yeah, right. Liars to boot! They always leave the keys in the ignition at the firehouse!
- 9 months ago
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OlBlue:
I live in Ohio and Governor Kasich has not hidden the fact, he wants to privatize the lottery. They have changed the way the lottery broadcasts in Ohio. Threy no longer show the higher prize drawings. They changed the channel, which broadcasts the drawings from ABC to NBC and NBC cancels the broadcasts on a regular basis, supposedly due to other scheduled programs. They still have a commercial in that time slot, but they don't show the drawings.
I think it's being done with purpose. IMHO, if the lottery starts struggling, it can be used to promote privatization as a lottery savior. I have played the same two sets of numbers every day, except two, maybe three since it started. I watched the drawings every night. It was a 'dream' orgasim every night, just waiting to see if my numbers popped up. They have managed to take away my nightly thrill. They don't ever show the drawings for the Lotto, Power Ball,or Mega drawings. They don't care about the people who spend money on the lotto. They are more concerned about who makes profit from it.
If a private industry could make money running the lottery, so could the state of Ohio. We didn't vote in the lottery for corporations to profit. We did it for Education! If the State of Ohio makes profit, it comes back to us. But, if they privatize it, the profits will go into the pockets of corporate CEO's and shareholders.
- 9 months ago
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Leen61
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The U.S. Private Prison Industrial Complex....this country's other growth industry. When it's incarceration for profit, of course more people have to be put behind bars.
- 9 months ago
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tlbuffin:
That's correct, tl! Voted up!
- 9 months ago
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tlbuffin:
Tell me about it, tl. Disgusting. As for me, I could not watch Cheney being interviewed. That guy makes me puke.
- 9 months ago
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tlbuffin:
LOL! :)
- 9 months ago
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tlbuffin:
Don't forget ole turd blossom!!!
- 9 months ago
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Leen61:
I think I heard the interview with him (about his book) is on NBC on Sunday nite; I'll find out for sure and let you know. He said (re his book) that "heads in Washington will explode" when they read it. Bring your barf-bag.
- 9 months ago
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Hardytoo
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tlbuffin:
Oh gawd, that's funny - by El Poopadore, indeed.
Ye olde turdus blossomus! Love it. - 9 months ago
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Hardytoo:
I heard enough about Cheney's book between Jeremy Scahill and John Dean on Countdown with Keith Olbermann tonight. I heard about the "heads in Washington will explode" part. I love these arrogant assholes who can through everbody under the bus but accept no personal responsibility themselves. That's classic Cheney.
- 9 months ago
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Leen61
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Leen61:
Cheney should hang around microwave ovens more often, say pacemaker unsafe ovens.
- 9 months ago
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tlbuffin:
lol. You always paint great pictures tl. Thanx for the grin.
- 9 months ago
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sugarmountian
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warman1138:
LOL! Cheney is a machine. He's just being kept alive by mechanical parts. He has great health insurance. Anybody else would be dead already. When I saw snippets of the interview he gave on Countdown, Cheney looked like shit!
- 9 months ago
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Hardytoo:
Here's some of what I saw about Cheney's book last night.
- 9 months ago
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Leen61
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Leen61:
Thanks Leen, I missed this.
Dean perfectly describes him - "authoritarian mentality" indeed!!
Sure wouldn't wanna be a "friend of " Cheney's - he's the type that would harvest the organs he wants (or take me bird hunting and shoot me in the face, take my heart and liver too).
He looks SOOO ill, YAYYYYYY, his pancake makeup was plastered on his cruel old face - he doesn't have long now - unless he gets a transplant - like EdJoy said (different thread): it's strange he hasn't had a healthy soldier "accidentally, on purpose" killed so he can the guys heart.
Alas, his time is tick-tick-ticking by; after a year with an LVAD the life expectancy plummets each day. For what he and Tenet did to Colin Powell, he'd better be wearing hid asbestos panties cuz he's on his way to hell - it's likely that the devil himself can't find a hot-enough place for this pig. - 9 months ago
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Hardytoo:
You're welcome, Hardytoo. Speaking of John Dean, get his book "Conservatives Without Conscience." Excellent. That's why Keith always plugs it. In fact, I read the John Dean Trilogy--"Worse Than Watergate," "Conservatives Without Conscience" and "Broken Government." I loved the rest of your comment as well!
- 9 months ago
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Leen61:
I actually remember John Dean testifying at the Watergate hearings (yes, that old). I've always respected him so much for standing by his morals (in the end).
Have read the first two books you mention and the 3rd is on my Fall/Wintere "must-reads."
Thanks Leen, (and hope you've semi-recovered from last Saturday nite's follies.. - haven't rec'd the cake yet, but am sure it'll arrive one day, shriveled but still edible!!) - 9 months ago
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Hardytoo:
I remember John Dean testifying at the Watergate hearings as well. When I got home from school, that's what my mother had the TV tuned into at the time. This is back in the day when criminal activity in DC meant something and it was that important....talk about reality TV! Yes, I have recovered from last Saturday's follies and and I wish I really could've sent you some cake. :)
- 9 months ago
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well, we'll have a place to put all these scum-bag politicians thats something i guess?!
- 9 months ago
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Hardytoo
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More being swept under that old carpet, and it's the same in Canada.
Just to give a couple of examples: 40% of people in Federal Correctional Facilities are Native Indian, with the Province of Saskatchewan topping the list: said another way, Sask has one of the lowest populations in total, and in Saskatchewan there are1,600 Aboriginals per 100,000 population in some form of correctional institution (compared to 48 per 100,000 for non-Aboriginal peoples).
50% of ALL inmates in Canada are "in" on marijuana-dealing or USING charges - that's why there's a push here to have weed decriminalized - it's costing the provinces and feds too much. (But the DEA, those pesky guys) just won't allow it.)
And to top it all off, right in my own backyard (about 3 miles away) they've built the first privately run prison (copying the US). I'll let y'all know how THAT works out - they do the dumbest things here - I laugh, then I weep at the stupidity - these a-holes who make these decisions are ruining the Country that I love (but for which I'm rapidly losing all respect). - 9 months ago
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Frosty46
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We live in an insane country run by thugs. Saw it coming during the reign of Raygun. It will not end well-----------
- 9 months ago
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EthicalVegan
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Very, very disturbing. Very, very aggravating. Very, very wrong.
- 9 months ago
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Buckeye_Bill
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EthicalVegan:
You're very, very correct.
- 9 months ago
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Buckeye_Bill
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Buckeye_Bill
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Why aren't the Rethuglicans crying about the cost of trying a person in the court systems and housing them?
Why do many people receive prison sentences for some of the most ridiculous nonvictim crimes for years and years?
It has been calculated that it costs $49,000.00 to imprison a human being for one year. And that's if they are healthy!
But Republicans have NO problem wanting to cut SS and MediCare for us law-abiding citizens!
I wonder if it's their "plan" to make prisons so attractive that we may just trade our "freedoms" for a 6X9 cell? I was going to say that they serve three squares, but that's been severely cut back now. But they still offer a bed! And all the leisure time you can stand!
- 9 months ago
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Buckeye_Bill
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Buckeye_Bill:
It has been calculated that it costs $49,000.00 to imprison a human being for one year. And that's if they are healthy!
And if they are not the price is only marginally more. After all 2 aspirin don't cost much and Dr. Bubba doesn't need any certification to administer them.
- 9 months ago
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Wyley_Wombat:
There's been a hush-hush agenda to get rid of older inmates that need medical care like blood pressure meds, etc., or if they need an operation that the ex-inmate has to have, they find a way to get them out the door to apply for Medicaid or if old enough, MediCare, so long as they were serving time for a nonviolent crime.
When prisons release people...they open the front door and put them out. That's it. They're on their own.
But when they tried to release some who were on powerful psychiatric drugs, those ex-inmates tried to climb back into or wandered around the parameters of the prisons, they were so out of it.
- 9 months ago
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Buckeye_Bill
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Buckeye_Bill:
In the jail near one CO where I worked nights,they used release them late at night. There were cases where a prisoner was released, assaulted someone on the street, and wound up back in the steel hotel....on the same night.
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Wyley_Wombat
