Nature punches back
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- JanforGore
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And as I was walking today I saw many downed trees, trees pulled out of the ground from their roots and one beautiful big tree snapped like a twig as if struck by lightning. It's simply physics we need to understand now.
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coolplanet
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I love how the deniers are calling Irene "hype." Just a little ol' tropical storm.
Five million without power, 23+ dead, rainfall records broken in 12 states, and the worst storm to hit Vermont.
How many more storms of the century every year do you think it will take to wake people up to this emergency? - 9 months ago
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coolplanet
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JanforGore
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coolplanet:
http://news.yahoo.com/irenes-toll-jumps-40-vt-towns-battle-floods-025046068.html
This was a huge storm in scope. I don't know how many more it will take, but I'm sure we will get many more chances to see if its the one.
"MONTPELIER, Vt. (AP) — The full measure of Hurricane Irene's fury came into focus Monday as the death toll jumped to 40, New England towns battled epic floods and millions faced the dispiriting prospect of several days without electricity.
From North Carolina to Maine, communities cleaned up and took stock of the uneven and hard-to-predict costs of a storm that spared the nation's biggest city a nightmare scenario, only to deliver a historic wallop to towns well inland.
In New York City, where people had braced for a disaster-movie scene of water swirling around skyscrapers, the subways and buses were up and running again in time for the Monday morning commute. And to the surprise of many New Yorkers, things went pretty smoothly.
But in New England, landlocked Vermont contended with what its governor called the worst flooding in a century. Streams also raged out of control in upstate New York.
In many cases, the moment of maximum danger arrived well after the storm had passed, as rainwater made its way into rivers and streams and turned them into torrents. Irene dumped up to 11 inches of rain on Vermont and more than 13 in parts of New York."
- 9 months ago
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JanforGore
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JanforGore
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JanforGore:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/videos-show-upstate-york-vermont-irene-flood...
Here are some videos.
Deniers are full of__________. - 9 months ago
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JanforGore
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coolplanet
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JanforGore:
By _______ do you mean ____ ____ ____?
;) - 9 months ago
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coolplanet
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JanforGore
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coolplanet:
There are many words than can fill those blanks.
- 9 months ago
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JanforGore
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IceKat
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coolplanet:
If CO2 concentrations had been at 150 ppm, would this storm have been smaller, less severe, non-existent?
What caused worse storms in previous years when CO2 concentrations were at (what you might call) safe levels? - 9 months ago
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IceKat
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IceKat
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JanforGore:
Yes, but if people use those words against you you have them censored.
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IceKat
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coolplanet
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IceKat:
If atmospheric C02 levels were at 150ppm we would be in the midst of a major ice age!
We have been around 350ppm for the past 10,000 years since the end of the last ice age.
Now, for the first time in 10,000 years, we are rapidly approaching 400ppm.
Include methane from suddenly melting tundra and we are at 430ppm C02.
This "greenhouse effect" has been an accepted scientific fact since the 1880s. - 9 months ago
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coolplanet
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IceKat
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coolplanet:
The only fact in your comment is... oh wait, there isn't a single fact in your comment!
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IceKat
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coolplanet
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IceKat:
So basically your position is that scientific evidence from ice cores, sea sediment and coral reefs going back hundreds of millions of years is bullshit?
That greedy scientists are conspiring to take over the world with clean energy??? - 9 months ago
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coolplanet
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bailey78
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Whatamess
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bailey78
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JanforGore
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bailey78:
It's disheartening to see that much garbage that came in with the tide to begin with. We are using our water and air as garbage dumps, and it's coming to a head.
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JanforGore
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bailey78
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JanforGore:
Well on the bright side Jan it is now easier to clean it up now that it is on the ground and not on the creek bottom anymore. However I hate to think at what was washed out to sea.. I am aslo glad to see folks like you that care enough to let the rest of the world see what happening to the Planet. You bring warmth to my Heart Thank You :)
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bailey78
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JanforGore
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bailey78:
Well thank you too. BTW anymore on that plastic beach you filmed?
- 9 months ago
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JanforGore
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bailey78
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JanforGore:
I sent it to a bunch of folks I thought would care I never got anything other than a prewriten E-Mail back. I'm going to send it out again in the morning to a bunch of schools and such maybe I can get some young people interested in it. Maybe a class that has some kind of Eco-Class going. They have some save the Turtle folks that I'm going to send it to also. I will do some research into who is doing what in this area and send it out to them. Hard to find folks that care about the Planet around here. There are a few but unless you have something like money to throw at them They just don't care. I am also going to try and find out just who owns the property and see what they say about it. That is going to be a job in it's self. But Hey it's not like I don't have the time to do it :)
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bailey78
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JanforGore
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bailey78:
I hear you. Good luck. If you find out who owns it let me know. I'll send them a maill too.
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JanforGore
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bailey78
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JanforGore:
You Got it. :)
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bailey78
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Vic_Romano
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So it wasn't a Katrina force hurricane. It was a huge storm, and it dumped tons of rain on the east coast. I saw that the inland flooding in New Hampshire and Vermont was disastrous.
I read that Philadelphia and New York have now experienced the wettest Augusts on record. The western states are in a severe drought. And, well, the Missouri river where I live is STILL at flood stage.
I really think we're at a tipping point.
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Vic_Romano
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JanforGore
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Vic_Romano:
We're very close, and the sad part is people are still fighting over the reason so it even inhibits our ability to work to adapt to the changes that are coming faster than was thought. I feel for those living near the Missouri/Mississippi Rivers and those who live in flood zones. Imagine if this area over time had to be evacuated permanently because the flooding was just an everyday thing, or the Midwest because of a multi-year drought such as what ended in Australia just a couple of years ago. We aren't prepared for this.
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JanforGore
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cmc101
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JanforGore:
just recent a 100 year flood in Australia after the drought
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cmc101
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JanforGore
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cmc101:
Yes, 100 year floods that now come every five years.
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JanforGore
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cmc101
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JanforGore:
I have relatives there and the whole Country is chipping in on a surge tax to help in the Disasters
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cmc101