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Cheney Won’t Take Anything Back, Laughs at War Crimes Accusation

Buckeye_Bill
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Ali Gharib and Eli Clifton
Think Progress / Video Report
Published: Monday 5 September 2011

Former Vice President Dick Cheney, continuing his “heads exploding” book tour, pushed back against criticisms of his book by former Secretary of State Colin Powell that the book contained, “cheap shots that he’s taking at me and other members of the Administration who served to the best of our ability for President Bush.”

Powell’s former chief of staff retired Col. Lawrence Wilkerson offered even more pointed criticisms of Cheney, telling ABC News that, “[Cheney] was president for all practical purposes for the first term of the Bush administration,” and “fears being tried as a war criminal.”

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189 comments // Cheney Won’t Take Anything Back, Laughs at War Crimes Accusation // Video

  • PIANORAMA
  • KurtLewin
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      KurtLewin  
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    • Today's bomb threat in CA is another wake up call to really assess the toll of a war economy. We often heard about the Clinton-Gore Peacetime Dividend: now let's REALLY assess the War Time Dividend...esp the collateral damage to our country's mental health. The costs of mental health damages, e.g. disability, poverty, contributes to the so called 'Entitlements Crisis" and the poor are once again targeted and stigmatized.

      Perhaps if we assess the TRUE mental and physical damage of war, to soldiers and their families (for generations) as well as civilians, institutions, etc., we could include the entitlements into the Department of Defense budget, which few seem to question....

      And Mr. Cheyney laughs? How many Vets has he kept track of...FAMILIES and COMMUNITIES must pick up the responsibility of healing the damage of war, while all the Daddy Warbucks get rich, and refuse to pay any taxes to help clean up the mess.... Communities must bear the brunt of daily burdens war create, as well as the occasional crisis, such as today's bomb threat...

      When will we measure the butterfly effect of war for a TRUE cost/benefit analysis in order to decide, guns or butter economy?
      http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/09/07/national/main20102778.shtml

    • 9 months ago
  • KurtLewin
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • 0
      Buckeye_Bill  
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    • KurtLewin:

      And as we read in the news every day how some nut takes a weapon and KILLS innocent people, we scratch our heads and wonder how all this madness happens.

      It's because we're lazy, shiftless, spineless, blame-it-on-others, mealy mouthed fustilarians, miscreants and rapscallions!

      We are reaping what we've sown. And I'm not talking about some religious bullcrap, either.

      I blame our educational system! But, before I blame them, I have to blame our government for ALLOWING our educational system for the rot that has been ongoing for decades.

      But, before I blame our government.....I BLAME US!

      Because we ARE our government! Except we've allowed our job to be usurped by politicians and big business.

      We are caught not being on guard.

      The Watchtower was left unattended. The "barbarians" have breached the walls and are among us.

      And what do we do?

      Nothing.

    • 9 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +1
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • KurtLewin:

      "You are making too much sense. I will have to report you to the authorities here and have you banned from commenting!"

      That's the way I feel happens whenever I post some article that SMACKS of common sense!

      And prepare for the assault from the trolls for making any remark that they feel is a PERSONAL attack against them!

      And the one listake is showing any graph, chart or post that MIGHT support your commentary!

      That's a BIG No-No!

      Beside, most can't follow circles and arrows...it doesn't take much to confuse them.

      Bravo, Kudos and accolades in spades for your endeavor!

      I don't feel quite as alone now.

      }8^)

    • 9 months ago
  • parsyar
  • SandyBerman
    • SandyBerman  
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  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +2
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • SandyBerman:

      I'm a half bleed indigenous AND German Jew AND I believe what I see...but this is sooo aporopos:

      Revelations 11:18
      "The nations raged, but your wrath came, and the time for the dead to be judged,
      and for rewarding your servants, the prophets and saints, and those who fear your name,
      both small and great, and for destroying the destroyers of the earth."

      See how those that are polluting the earth just might have "someone" who may or may not exist really pissed off at those who foul up the planet!

      Even though....who wants to shit in their "spacesuit" anywho? If I were someone who had the means, I would go all "Wrathful" on those who dirty the planet up my own dang self!

      SHAAAAZAAAAAM 'em into oblivion!

    • 9 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • Littlewolf
  • Littlewolf
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • Littlewolf
  • Littlewolf
    • +2
      Littlewolf  
    • Cheney's biggest war crime was perpetrated on us, and we stand here like hapless fools, refusing to "look back" or to "play the blame game".

      Iraq's WMD and the Gulf of Tonkin are duplicate plans to feed the war profiteers. We ignore Operation Halliburton at our peril.

      Where's that "patriotic orgy" when it comes to holding these war criminals responsible? The disgrace is that Bush & Cheney won't leave the US for fear of answering to the Hague, but know they're perfectly safe from any prosecution here.

      Now Congress won't cover the surviving firemen for the cancers & slow deaths they will face as a result of their unprecedented heroism- if Congress had been hit congressional members would be the first to cry out for rescue by the firemen - who would have responded, AND FOR WHAT? To be shit on like the NYC firemen are now?

      My son is a fireman in NY & I still can't talk about the 383 firemen killed without starting to cry - the pain in NY is still as raw as it was on September 12th.

      I have never held so much anger for anything in my life as the casual American disregard for the truth concerning 9-11.

      http://youtu.be/7E3oIbO0AWE

    • 9 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +4
      Buckeye_Bill  
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    • Littlewolf:

      "That so far as we approve as monarchy, that in America THE LAW IS KING. For as in absolute governments the King is law, so in free countries the law ought to be King; and there ought to be no other. But lest any ill use should afterwards arise, let the crown at the conclusion of the ceremony be demolished, and scattered among the people whose right it is." - Thomas Paine

      Just let me know when and where...I'll be there bright-eyed, bushy-tailed with rings on my fingers and bells on my toes AND sharp-pointed pitchfork and lit torche, one in each hand!

      To quote a REAL AMERICAN HERO, Todd Beamer, "Let's roll!"

      P.S. He was born in Michigan but was a fan of THE Ohio State Buckeyes! As you can tell by the Block "O" Scarlet and Gray ball cap he wore in this picture.

    • 9 months ago
  • Littlewolf
    • +1
      Littlewolf  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      Voted up, and I believe Todd was a real hero - whether he was taken off the plane and executed (see above post) or went down with it. I thought the "Lets roll" quote was supposedly overheard on a cell phone - problem is that cell phones don't work in airplanes - the towers can't keep up & bounce the signals to match the flight speed. Try using your cell phone in flight sometime - you can't.

    • 9 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
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    • Littlewolf:

      "After United Airlines Flight 93 was hijacked, Beamer and other passengers communicated with people on the ground via in-plane and cell phones, and learned that the World Trade Center had been attacked using hijacked airplanes. Beamer tried to place a credit card call through a phone located on the back of a plane seat but was routed to a customer-service representative instead, who passed him on to GTE supervisor Lisa Jefferson. Beamer reported that one passenger was killed and, later, that a flight attendant had told him the pilot and co-pilot had been forced from the cockpit and may have been wounded. He was also on the phone when the plane made its turn in a southeasterly direction, a move that had him briefly panicking. Later, he told the operator that some of the plane's passengers were planning to "jump on" the hijackers and fly the plane into the ground before the hijackers' plan could be followed through. Beamer also recited The Lord's Prayer with Jefferson. According to Jefferson, Beamer's last audible words were "Are you guys ready? Let's roll." " - Wikipedia

      Does this answer your doubts how Todd Beamer could have made his call for assistance while airborne?

      He not only was but still IS a True American Hero.

      In my eyes at least.

      RIP Mr. Todd Beamer. And all my prayers are with his wife and family at this time and for every year hereafter. It may make a small difference to his family that there are those who value his heroic attempts to end a terrorist plot on the plane he was a passenger on.

    • 9 months ago
  • Littlewolf
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      Littlewolf  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      That would make sense because the GTE phones on the back of the seats are radio phones and of course, they work in flight. But you can not use a cell phone from a plane.

      Did you get a chance to view the video I posted? Have you read anything by Stephen Jones (the physics prof from Brigham Young Univ) or David Griffin (the theologian)? Fascinating stuff. I highly recommend them to anyone interested in this.

      Coincidentally, Bush's brother Marvin and his cousin (whose name I forget right now) were the owners and operators of the security firms in the airports from where the hijackers took off. I find it another coincidence that Ted Olsen's wife was on one of the planes too - he was Bush's attorney in Bush v Gore.

      If the government hadn't had a plan to remove passengers & substitute drones in 1962 for a similar plan in order to invade Cuba I wouldn't have suspected the passengers from United 93 had been ordered off the plane and summarily executed. The 1962 passengers were to be CIA though, so their execution wasn't planned.

      Knowing the Bush Cheney cabal, I still wonder why they never found wreckage of the plane in PA - claiming it disintegrated on impact and "for the first time in aviation history" nothing was left of the plane after the crash.

      I agree that Todd Beamer is and was a real American hero - I can only hope I would have the stamina and determination he had, knowing it was not likely at all to end well. RIP Todd

    • 9 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
    • Littlewolf:

      I don't know where some people got the impression that Mr. Beamer didn't make that call, unless.....Fixed Noise! You know how they start nasty or inaccurate rumors about just ANYTHING for the heck of it.

    • 9 months ago
  • gypsysailor
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • SandyBerman
    • SandyBerman  
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  • Buckeye_Bill
  • ACSUS
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      ACSUS  
    • SandyBerman:

      I was researching DU and I cannot find where it is considered a WAR CRIME to use it. As much as I despise Cheney, I would like to accuse him only of those crimes that are recognized as crimes by the international community, not merely things that I find reprehensible. If using a DU shell was a crime, a lot of ordinary GIs are guilty too.

    • 9 months ago
  • SandyBerman
  • ACSUS
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      ACSUS  
    • SandyBerman:

      From my research I find that DU is used to harden shells for penetration of Armor. Mostly by tank shells. The amount of radiation released from these shells is probably less than you get from a Timex Night Glow watch.
      Just because it does not decay for a billion years does not make it toxic, As I am sure you know, TEFLON does not break down either, and every household in America is still using it.
      Please stop giving redjujube ammunition, he's already as crazy as an outhouse rat.

    • 9 months ago
  • nardo1224
  • Johnny_Los_Angeles
  • rustyred
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +3
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • rustyred:

      Unfortunately I do not think it will be this side of Heaven before justice is served.

      But, it does give me hope that there WILL be a judge, jury AND trial he will have to face, but it will be held in Hell.

    • 9 months ago
  • shengled
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      shengled  
    • He knows he's not going to live long enough for a trial much less incarceration. Would be nice to see though. Criminal actions of the highest degree.

    • 9 months ago
  • Misti
  • shengled
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +3
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • shengled:

      We have tried him....in the court of public opinion. He can't run OR hide from that!

      I think that if he does worry about what others think of him, that might be the only justice we will receive this side of Hell.

      He's not liked even by most Republicans. Only a few think of him kindly and they are the ones that wouldn't recognize honor or integrity if it bit them in their arse!

      I foresee him rolling and roiling in his grave until Judgement Day.

    • 9 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +2
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • shengled:

      "It's a great look back into the arrogance of that administration. Remember???"

      How in ALL that's Holy can ANYONE forget?

      They would HAVE to be brain-dead!

      +^d

      }8^O (me crying out that I REMEMBER!!!!!!! And will NEVER forget!!!)

    • 9 months ago
  • lazloman
  • Visionra
    • +2
      Visionra  
    • Of course he cannot take it back! He would have give his money back made by all the government contracts his companies received ! And repent for all the children of America he was responsible for sending to war! And talk about his daughter and decision to be gay and that gay is ok not like his party says " morally wrong !

    • 9 months ago
  • cmc101
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • letsliveinpeace
  • FLeggplant
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      FLeggplant  
    • I would like to say that Cheney should live a long life and suffer his own cowardice but, since he has no soul, no regrets and no self awareness..
      I hope there is a Hell after death in which he can suffer for eternity.
      He is a vile and horrible excuse for a human being.
      If he is indeed human at all. I have my doubts.

    • 9 months ago
  • Leen61
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      Leen61  
    • So Cheney thinks this is funny and claims he doesn't know Wilkerson, Colin Powell's former chief of staff? And Chris Wallace sits there and yuks it up with him? What a pair of "class acts" here. Wallace is no journalist and Cheney belongs behind bars.

    • 9 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +7
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • Leen61:

      It might come as a surprise to some but the Devil doesn't take any time to get to know who's in Hell with him, either.

      So I'm not surprised at all that Cheney didn't take a second to learn who was in the Cheney Administration......er, I meant the Bush Administration.

    • 9 months ago
  • Leen61
  • Leen61
  • Buckeye_Bill
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      Buckeye_Bill  
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    • Leen61:

      Dick Cheney is either a liar OR he was not aware of his surroundings, events of importance or those who were part ot of it. He appears to have issues with people who possess integrity or honor and is using his bbook to rewrite historical accurancies to make himself look better than what he will be remembered for his part in the fiasco of the Bush Administration that nearly brought this Nation to its knees politically and economically. He caes about no one other than himself and those companies that have made him money. Halliburton being on the top of that list.

      He didn't and still does not care who he has hurt. His country, his associates, his subordinates or his boss at the time. How he "outed" a CIA agent is the epitome of who he truly is. A mean old man that has a grudge against those who disagreed with his policies. His perceptions of reality is colored by his lack of character and how he views the rest of the world.

      The one point Mr. Wilkerson made that I wholeheartedly agree with is I will NOT be buying Cheney's book and anyone who does will be contributing to this man's purse!

      A man who deserves nothing but our disdain and disrespect.

      He is a snake in the grass. And he is poised to strike out at ANYONE who comes near!

    • 9 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +4
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • Leen61:

      Could it be because Mr. Wilkerson KNOWS the truth and you know how Republicans can't stand truth. They will avoid it at all costs!

      They are adept at rewriting history that shows them in a bad light.

      Unfortunately for them, there are far too many that do recall facts and will counter the efforts of the Dick Cheneys to alter it.

    • 9 months ago
  • OlBlue
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • OlBlue
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • Leen61
  • Leen61
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • Leen61
  • Admirable
    • +8
      Admirable  
    • That Dick Cheney should be sent to Gitmo for enhanced interrogation. After they beat a confession out of him they should give him a fair trial and then hang him.

    • 9 months ago
  • EmperorThan
  • AFunkiMan
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +10
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • AFunkiMan:

      You're probably right. No one would want to be accused of being like him. I wish he thought about that before he sent people to horror chambers for unmentionables done to them.

      I have a feeling that OUR CIA has done unspeakable things in OUR name.

      I say, as you, let a higher power decide his fate.

      Instant Karma...add Cheney and stir vigorously!

    • 9 months ago
  • KB723
  • joeredford
  • Hardytoo
  • joeredford
  • Hardytoo
    • +6
      Hardytoo  
    • joeredford:

      They might have to try non-human subjects ... not a single species springs to mind - maybe we DO need those human-hybrids that Rickie Santorum's so fumed about.... dunno. Maybe so.

    • 9 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • joeredford
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +4
      Buckeye_Bill  
    • joeredford:

      Well, I'll be hornswoggled! I get to say buenos noches to my favorite Redford!

      I was just telling someone my batteries were about out of juice and I was clocking out for the night.

      You be good...ya hear? Don't take any wooden nickels from any wooden injuns, either!

      And, I wanted to share a video with you as to what happens to a Tea Bagger that didn't get his daily marching orders...they go on the fritz and you junever know where they might end up!

      LOL

      G'nite, Mr. Redford!

    • 9 months ago
  • ACSUS
  • Littlewolf
    • +3
      Littlewolf  
    • Buckeye_Bill:

      Prowling the hallways with a transplant agenda is right in character with Cheney - as if our soldiers haven't already given enough. Military organ donations are allocated first to others serving in the armed forces - not something that would even register as a blip of obstruction to Cheney. I think you're onto something here!

    • 9 months ago
  • joeredford
  • Hardytoo
    • +3
      Hardytoo  
    • joeredford:

      Noticed in one of SandyBerman's posts this a.m. - he describes daughter Lia, "his shrike of a daughter" - couldn't think of a better word of description.
      I'm gonna borrow the term "shrike." Suits her to a Teeeeee.

    • 9 months ago
  • ACSUS
  • joeredford
  • ACSUS
  • joeredford
  • warman1138
  • warman1138
    • +7
      warman1138  
    • He should laugh while he can, like the survivers of the holocost the survivers and families of Cheneys victims probably won't forget or forgive anytime soon, including the Hague.

    • 9 months ago
  • ACSUS
    • +3
      ACSUS  
    • warman1138:

      Which is why I don't see him leaving the U.S. for foreign soil any time soon. Most people don't think other countries would arrest a former vice president, or a former president for that matter. But those two have done so much damage to American prestige abroad, they might not be able to visit Canada or the United Kingdom with impunity.
      Bush might get away with Saudi Arabia, his family has been in bed with them for more than 50 years, but I can really think of no other nations on earth who would not at least consider arresting them for war crimes.

    • 9 months ago
  • Littlewolf
    • +4
      Littlewolf  
    • ACSUS:

      Wouldn't it be great if on his way to Dubai Bush's plane had to detour & refuel in a country that took him off the plane and brought him to the Hague. Ah well, I can dream.

    • 9 months ago
  • redjujube
  • ACSUS
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      ACSUS  
    • redjujube:

      As repugnant as I find Bush and Cheney, I find your rhetoric even more vile and disgusting. You have threatened a former Vice President of The United States, and while Canada may condone such speech, in America it is considered a criminal act.
      We don't condone assassination in this country, regardless of how vile we view a person. We consider ourselves a nation of laws and if you cannot get your addled, psychopathic brain around that fact then you need to stay out of American Politics and confine your bile to your own country. DON'T MAKE ME COME UP THERE LOOKING FOR YOU.

    • 9 months ago
  • Littlewolf
  • Buckeye_Bill
    • +3
      Buckeye_Bill  
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    • redjujube:

      Zorba? Is that you? I thought I recognized your wanton, lewd and lascivious ranting! Remember how we had a great many lengthy conversations, about a variety of things, from life to religion, each other's past and how we came to be where we are now?

      You, a disillusioned courtesan as you are said, "Man is a brute.... If you're cruel to him, he respects and fears you. If you're kind to him, he plucks your eyes out."

      You Greeks take life way too seriously!

      you're still a wild and crazy guy!

      Hiccup!

    • 9 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • redjujube
  • ACSUS
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      ACSUS  
    • redjujube:

      Jaffray, British Columbia (49°22′15.95″N 115°18′2.19″W) is an unincorporated village in southeast British Columbia. As of the RDEK 2010 census, the population was 810 [1], spread over a rural area of roughly 44 square kilometres.
      This COWARD, redjujube, lives in a town that has less people in it than my apartment building. Village? Village of the damned most likely. Obviously not enough people to interbreed safely. Redjujube, does this sound familiar: REDJUJUBE, GET OFF YOUR SISTER, IT'S YOUR DADDY'S TURN?
      So this foul mouthed punk sits up there in his 1 room shanty, living on government welfare, and rants and raves about Americans because he is so jealous and envious of us he cannot even sleep at night. Laying in bed, hating his parents for not being American, wanting revenge on the whole world because no matter what he does he will always be a Canadian, and never a real person, a native born American.
      Redjujube, don't be so angry, there is nothing wrong with being Canadian. Perhaps, if you are lucky, you and your sister can have another baby and this time it can be born in America. Good Luck.

    • 9 months ago
  • redjujube
  • ACSUS
    • +2
      ACSUS  
    • redjujube:

      Oooooh redjujube, I love it when you talk tough and dirty. Do you kiss your sister with that mouth. Please, show me one line where I said I was coming up. You have a lot of problems, not the least of which is seeing one thing and changing it to something else you want it to mean.
      Why don't you come down here? We like Canadians down here and I'm sure a person with your attitude would be welcome.
      First though, you need to practice bending forward and touching your toes, as you'll be doing that a lot when you get here.
      Talk to you later.

    • 9 months ago
  • redjujube
  • ACSUS
    • +2
      ACSUS  
    • redjujube:

      I haven't hurt your feelings have I? You seem a little piqued. Would you feel better if you laid your little head in my lap and got some rest?
      I find it interesting that you are so brave over the internet, yet as with so many of your ilk I have met, when you meet a real man face to face, your cowardice always shows through.
      We here in the States have more respect for men who can carry on an intelligent conversation, which you have yet to do, than for braggarts and fools who rant and rave and in reality it is like spitting in the wind.
      Grow up little man, we've got your number.

    • 9 months ago
  • Vic_Romano
  • Buckeye_Bill
  • ACSUS
  • Littlewolf
    • +8
      Littlewolf  
    • We should TAKE back all the money he made war profiteering - that would go a long way to reducing the deficit the teabaggers have been directed to be so concerned about, despite their deified Reagan's proclamation, and Cheney's regurgitation of it, that "deficits don't matter"

      Halliburton/KBR should be prosecuted and made to disgorge ALL profits made beginning from the time of Cheney's violation of trade with Libya "so as not to put Halliburton at an economic disadvantage" as he said. We should just appropriate the profits - from ALL sources (as a deterrent to future opportunists who are politically connected and would trade our blood & lives for profits) The murdering "Christian -based" Blackwater/Xe's profits should be appropriated too.

      I think Cheney should be left in the wilds of Wyoming without any medical care, without shelter, and clothed only in his 5 draft deferment letters. I'd like to see Sarah try to shoot him from a helicopter for sport.

      Cheney, Bush & Erik Prince should be delivered to the Hague. After all, like they tell us about warrantless wiretapping, etc. - "if you haven't done anything wrong, then you have nothing to worry about"

      Cheney is the devil incarnate.

    • 9 months ago
  • unimatrix0
    • +9
      unimatrix0  
    • When he dies, hopefully soon, Americans across the country will celebrate the death of a wicked man who betrayed his country, and his humanity.

    • 9 months ago
  • ACSUS
    • +3
      ACSUS  
    • unimatrix0:

      Not just Americans, a cry of joy will ring out across the globe and shake the earth to its very foundations. Bush's death won't be nearly as loud, although I suspect it will be just as joyous.
      Think of it, even Halliburton executives will give a tremendous sigh of relief, because the one man who knows where all the bodies are buried (he buried them) as well as the one person who could testify against all of the illegal war profiteers will be dead.
      They must then hope he didn't leave something in writing (which I suspect he has or they would have offed him already).

    • 9 months ago
  • Lairderg
    • +9
      Lairderg  
    • He will die eventually, but what will we learn afterwards? I wish President Obama had not insisted that we not look backward because for some people in this nation, namely those who still f**king believe in this demon, justice is a joke that can be played on everybody else.

    • 9 months ago
  • Littlewolf
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