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Krugman: 9/11 made Bush, Giuliani become ‘fake heroes’

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By Andrew Jones
Sunday, September 11th, 2011 -- 10:50 am

This story may not be going away for a long while.

New York Times columnist Paul Krugman lashed out at the commemoration of the 10 year anniversary of September 11th, labeling George W. Bush and Rudy Giuliani as "fake heroes."

On his "Conscience of a Liberal" blog Sunday morning, the Princeton economics professor didn't lack in showing any temerity in his comments that certainly will upset conservatives.

"What happened after 9/11 — and I think even people on the right know this, whether they admit it or not — was deeply shameful," he wrote. "Fake heroes like Bernie Kerik, Rudy Giuliani, and, yes, George W. Bush raced to cash in on the horror. And then the attack was used to justify an unrelated war the neocons wanted to fight, for all the wrong reasons."

Krugman, who normally allows comments, also wrote that he wasn't going to allow comments under this post "for obvious reasons."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/11/krugman-911-made-bush-giuliani-become-fake...

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69 comments // Krugman: 9/11 made Bush, Giuliani become ‘fake heroes’

  • KurtLewin
    • +1
      KurtLewin  
    • Silverstein Makes a Huge Profit off of the 9/11 Attacks

      Six months before the 9/11 attacks the World Trade Center was "privatized" by being leased to a private sector developer. The lease was purchased by the Silverstein Group for $3.2 billion. "This is a dream come true," Larry Silverstein said. "We will be in control of a prized asset, and we will seek to develop its potential, raising it to new heights."

      This sounds fishy...but will anyone investigate????

    • 9 months ago
  • crabbyoldguy
  • warman1138
  • hoosierdaddy
  • KurtLewin
    • -1
      KurtLewin  
    • Image
    • We better realize the war on terror is not over. UN vote on Palestine on 9/20 will be pivotal...Arab solidarity on Palestine issue continues Bin Ladens goal...get US out of Middle East...

      "Osama Bin Laden (lately known as 'Geronimo') enunciated the true motivations:

      "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple:
      (1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us.
      a) You attacked us in Palestine:
      …The British handed over Palestine, with your help and your support, to the Jews, who have occupied it for more than 50 years; years overflowing with oppression, tyranny, crimes, killing, expulsion, destruction and devastation… There is no need to explain and prove the degree of American support for Israel…. Each and every person whose hands have become polluted in the contribution towards this crime must pay its price, and pay for it heavily…The Palestinians do not cry alone; their women are not widowed alone; their sons are not orphaned alone…"
      Bin Laden observes that the mainstream media has blinded Americans to the truth:

      "The American Government and press still refuses to answer the question:
      Why did they attack us in New York and Washington?
      If Sharon is a man of peace in the eyes of Bush, then we are also men of peace!!!"
      http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=8d38ef747c2061bb9c6137961&id=3385d97513#...

    • 9 months ago
  • chrisntom
  • percipi224
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      percipi224  
    • what does it tell you Paul didn't want to open his remark to comments? I don't blame him. Given the red white and blue kool aid that is drunk (or is that force fed to us) on a daily basis. Hell, and the right was worried about hippies putting lsd in the water supply. I agree with him. The same thing happened after the Murrah bombing in OKC. All the politicals of a certain ilk had to make it sound like they were in the damn building and then crawled out and started digging with their bare hands themselves.

    • 9 months ago
  • chrisntom
  • percipi224
  • mii
    • +4
      mii  
    • Mr. Krugman speaks for millions of Americans.
      Thank you for your courageous denouncements of
      these sickening opportunists.

    • 9 months ago
  • Paratus
    • -8
      Paratus  
    • I remember just after 9/11 news reports stating that it was too bad this did not happen on Clintons watch so that he would have had the opportunity to shine. OH well. This focusing on the previous administration to assign the blame to it for everything from diaper rash to Nibiru is really pretty tiring. That administration was not perfect, some say criminal butt his administration is the same. I guess Krugman needs another 15 minutes of fame to feel relevant. This post really accomplishes nothing. After Bush was elected the first time many wanted the world to leave Clinton alone regarding his impeachment etc. They said the it was in the past and needed to be left there as it was over. We need to do the same here. BHO took office almost three years ago but many still have Bush in the Oval Office.

    • 9 months ago
  • joeredford
  • sharin
    • +2
      sharin  
    • Paratus:

      your comparison is staggering. Are you really comparing Clinton's error or getting a blow job from an aide to Bush getting us into a war with a country that had nothing to do with the attack on the US? really?!!! No lives lost compared to hundreds of thousands of live lost. No $$ spent (other than the special prosecutor and congressional time) compared to $1.2trillion and counting. One man's reputation besmerched compared to the reputation of our entire country

      really?

    • 9 months ago
  • Joeydee44
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      Joeydee44  
    • Paratus:

      Clinton didn't need to concoct a war to shine. His economic policies and record of peace did that for him. GWB came in with an open checkbook and a taste for blood and we all know where that got us. The Republicans aren't happy unless they're killing someone somewhere. If you want proof all you have to do is go back to the 2008 presidential election. Bomb bomb bomb Iran? WTF was that? More bloodlust from the Republican Party.

    • 9 months ago
  • maasanova
  • Varex_Sythe
    • +1
      Varex_Sythe  
    • Paratus:

      "After Bush was elected the first time many wanted the world to leave Clinton alone regarding his impeachment etc."

      It might have something to do with the fact that Clinton was impeached for lying about a part of his personal life that;
      1) was no one else's business.
      2) was no surprise to anyone who actually payed attention to his history of sexual harassment.
      and 3) in no way shape or form hindered, harmed, or risked either national security, the security of our citizens, the security of our troops, or the security of foreign civilians.

      "They said the it was in the past and needed to be left there as it was over."

      That is because the past, in terms of "zippergate" was of zero importance to anyone in the nation. Clinton got a blowjob from an intern while he was president. Yes, that makes him a scumbag. However, it does not make him a bad president. In fact all of the damage done to our society because of zippergate was superficially constructed and inflated out of proportion by a conservatively controlled congress that wanted to finally have something to rub the liberals faces in after the embarrassment that was Watergate.

      "We need to do the same here."

      No, we don't. Bush's policies actually did real damage not only to our nation, but to our economy and to other nations. We need to fix the numerous problems caused by that fuckup of a president and we should be holding him responsible for the results of his actions.

    • 9 months ago
  • asocial
  • KB723
  • EdJoyProductions
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      EdJoyProductions  
    • The number one thing that makes my head explode is this:

      Our government took 10 fucking years to come up with a way to compensate the people that in most cases, wound up giving their lives and health to rescue and clean up the mess and did a shit job at working out the criteria.

      It took only a year in a half to come up with all kinds of funding to go to war with the wrong fucking country.

    • 9 months ago
  • wolfess
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      wolfess  
    • EdJoyProductions:

      These TRUE heroes (9/11 responders) have a lot in common with the vets when they first returned from Vietnam. Clinton was the one who changed all that -- he was prez when it came to light what happened to the vets who fought in shrub sr's war so he changed the way ALL the vets were cared for by the VA. We need another Clinton in office now that will make sure the first responders are cared for.

    • 9 months ago
  • EmperorThan
  • EdJoyProductions
  • EdJoyProductions
    • +5
      EdJoyProductions  
    • No doubt. Giuiliani's incompetence by putting the emergency command center in the WTC complex AFTER THE BOMBING IN 93 was staggering. Every single time I saw his stupid face on the cover of a magazine touting him as America's mayor and completely ignoring all of the mishandling of the event by him and his administrative staffers as reported by countless first responders, I wanted to puke.

      Bush, jeeze, I do not even think I should get started on that one. I feel and aneurism coming on.

      Excuse me, I have to scream now.

    • 9 months ago
  • KB723
  • budsnews
  • EdJoyProductions
    • +2
      EdJoyProductions  
    • budsnews:

      I have not forgotten. This day of utter hypocrisy and photo ops for politicians is just something so infuriating to me, I can only type so much before my blood pressure start shooting out of the top of my head. No offense to the families but they are being exploited to distract while the first responders are left to rot.

    • 9 months ago
  • EdJoyProductions
  • KB723
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  • kayopunk
  • KB723
  • thedirtman
  • KB723
  • thedirtman
  • KB723
  • Anonmaly
  • Vic_Romano
    • +1
      Vic_Romano  
    • Oh well, I'm starting to believe that Krugman is just as much a fake economist as Bush et al are fake heroes. But he pretty much called this one correctly.

    • 9 months ago
  • KB723
  • EdJoyProductions
  • Forgotten_Echo
    • +1
      Forgotten_Echo  
    • Once again, the Conservatives around this nation are doing that which they do best. There are stirring up feelings of fear and hatred to further their own agendas and ambitions.

      We don't even know who the real enemy is, or where they are. There are still too many questions which will never be answered, and we have only the tales told to us by an Administration hell bent on waging war in the oil-rich Middle East.

      Problem for me is, the entire thing, as horrible as it was, appeared more to be staged than have been the effects of claimed terrorists which have out and out claimed credit for the deed.

    • 9 months ago
  • KB723
    • 0
      KB723  
    • Forgotten_Echo:

      Yes, like I saw this morning on CNN, there was a bombing in Afghanistan and the Taliban claimed responsibility... Then there was this guy saying how we took out the Taliban and they were talking about Al Qaeda, I don't think they even know who the enemy is...

    • 9 months ago
  • ecoalex
    • +2
      ecoalex  
    • bush allowed 9-11 so he could have his war in Iraq,and make his and cheney's pals $Billions. They are American terrorists.American Disaster Capitalists.

    • 9 months ago
  • KB723
  • WagonMaster
    • +1
      WagonMaster  
    • +^d! I totally agre with the article.. A hero is someone who does an heroic deed that contributes positively to anothers life or well being, not someone who jumps on the bandwagon and claims to be a hero for personal gain.

    • 9 months ago
  • KB723
  • VoyagerFilms
  • KB723
  • cherry5000
    • +2
      cherry5000  
    • the real heroes of 9/11 are the firefighters, police and the people who help rescue survivors. good post as always kb723, voted u up!!!!

    • 9 months ago
  • KB723
  • Nick19
    • +1
      Nick19  
    • Well thats not a surprising statement. The problem with Bush in particular was the type of people he surrounded himself with. Many were stuck in Cold War ideology and have no idea how to handle a non-state entity. So naturally, the idea was "who do we invade?".

    • 9 months ago
  • KB723
    • 0
      KB723  
    • Nick19:

      Agreed, we need to clean house of all the Old Timers that never see any other way of dealing with problems... It seems Diplomacy has been thrown out the window...

    • 9 months ago
  • Johnny_Los_Angeles
  • KB723
  • DanCastro
    • +1
      DanCastro  
    • Aside from Bush's failure to follow up on pre-9/11 leads, he failed to frame the day as more than an opportunity to shop and behave "normally"? This is a day about the American spirit and what makes US our best. We can take a punch and we keep on coming! We don't want to hurt others, but we don't sit back and take it! We rebuild what you destroy and you cannot stop US. If, like the heroes of flight 93 and the air force fighters who were prepared to die to stop that plane, we know of your plans, we will defend our democracy, even to our certain death! We believe in an ideal and an idea, that we are all equal before the law and our government! I would like US to say to the world, "Let us learn to be brothers/sisters who love and take care of each other and not continue to kill each other until the end of time! Peace.

    • 9 months ago
  • KB723
  • KB723
    • +3
      KB723  
    • To the Jack Ass that keeps going from page to page downing everyone's comments, get a Life!!! Even though you down comments, it doesn't change the Ranking of the Story, Ya Darned Fool!!!!

    • 9 months ago
  • Wyley_Wombat
  • KB723
  • Wyley_Wombat
    • +1
      Wyley_Wombat  
    • KB723:

      Yes that is true. I still maintain that 9/11 did not have to happen if we had not had our heads in the sand.

      Thanks for asking. I am starting to feel better. The older I get the harder these things whack me.

    • 9 months ago
  • KB723
    • +1
      KB723  
    • Wyley_Wombat:

      I don't think it happened because We had our heads in the sand... I knew once the SCOTUS made GW the POTUS we were in for Big Trouble... I never cared about politics until this happened, and it has been a downward spiral ever since... I am glad you are feeling better... =)

    • 9 months ago
  • Wyley_Wombat
    • +1
      Wyley_Wombat  
    • KB723:

      I find it hard to believe that considering all the intelligence people that look at the what is going on around the world, we had no clue that this was going to happen. I am sure that there were low level analysts that said "Hey this is something to look at a bit deeper" only to be told "No that is not important". I have seen that happen before.

    • 9 months ago
  • KB723
    • 0
      KB723  
    • Wyley_Wombat:

      It is hard to believe Wyley, and most of us know that GW was forewarned, and chose to do nothing, as he had his own intentions... These folks try to make their actions seem so confusing that folks will never figure it out... I thank goodness for the Internet...

    • 9 months ago
  • Schnookums
    • +7
      Schnookums  
    • If you didn't suspect it at the time, in retrospect, and with all the facts in perspective, it is indisputable.

      I commend Krugman in his restraint and diplomacy. "Fake Heroes" is as generous a characterization as is reasonably possible.

    • 9 months ago
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  • Schnookums
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