Can it get worse? The row between Israel and Turkey is becoming increasingly bitter.

Just so long as the Greeks don't launch another thousand ships to go looking for Helen again...

I think the Helens all just go to Monte Carlo now. Times change. +^d

A truly Giant rendition of that sprightly tune ! +^d

I think the Kurds still remember the Armenian lesson, and for now just want to try to get along. Good point though, Turkey has its own problems with marginalizing populations within its boarders.

Turkey's ruling part is secular as is Israel; frankly, in light of the possible theocracies that are forming around them, they need each other.

I have always valued Jimmy Carter's assessment of how Israel has treated Palestinians. And I know governments like Egypt's were corrupt, but when their peoples proved successful, it means Hamas has little or no incentives to secularize.

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cuz middle eastern politics goes this way.

want to gain support in the west, chant "freedom"
want to gain support in the middle east, bash israel.

the convinient patsy

yep, I agree Israel might have taken to long to deal with the human rights issues in Palestine.

yeah from all that israeli aggression at turkey huh?

With Israel being the catharsis for a lot of pent up anger. It's getting pretty interesting to say the least.

And pent up anger is starting to materialize inside of Israel itself.

Virtually unreported or televised in the West, hundreds of thousands of Israelis are taking to the streets to protest social justice too:

http://current.com/community/93443596_among-the-protesters-in-israel-the-largest...

And 6% of the population protesting at once would be like over 5 million Americans marching on Washington.

Could you imagine?

I've read a few articles on the high cost of housing, and the protests related to it. It's interesting in the sense that Israel, in many respects, has a much more vibrant democracy than does the United States.

But only if you're Jewish.....that's the downside.

Thanks you for pointing that out, it's to easy to thinks as Americans that the Israeli people are just complicit with government policies and actions....

But they aren't, no more than a large segment here have been with all these stupid wars...

Yep....membership in that club certainly has its privileges.

nope.religion has nothing to do with it, as israel is secular and the palestinian israelis are denied nothing.or the druz,or the christians,or the athiests.