GOP- led North Carolina House passes same sex marriage ban

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Monday, September 12th, 2011 -- 7:05 pm
The North Carolina House of Representatives has approved an amendment to the state constitution that would define marriage as solely between one man and one woman.
The Republican-controlled House passed the proposed amendment in a 75 to 42 vote on Monday after a three-hour debate. If the state Senate also approves the proposed amendment, North Carolina voters would ultimately decide its fate in a statewide referendum on next May's primary date.
State law already defines marriage as between one man and one woman, but a constitutional amendment would protect the law from legal challenges.
"Things have changed in Iowa, California, New York, D.C. and Massachusetts," House Majority Leader Rep. Paul Stam (R) said. "We have now states with significant populations that are allowing same sex marriages to be legitimized and entered into. The question then becomes what happens when they come to North Carolina seeking divorce or equitable distribution?"
Stam previously said same sex marriage needed to be banned to protect children, and that any argument used to support same sex marriage could be used to support the practice of polygamy and incest.
Democrats have mostly opposed the amendment, and accused Republicans of having priorities that are "seriously out of whack."
"The reality is that this amendment will not put one person back to work, it will not help one small business keep its doors open and it will not assist one single citizen now trying to recover from the devastation inflicted by Hurricane Irene," David Parker, Chairman of the North Carolina Democratic Party said in blog post.
"It is simply un-American to single out any group of law-abiding citizens to harass and torment," he added. "Every time we select a set of folks to exclude from America's dream of a better life, the results are detrimental to our nation."
The proposed amendment would allow companies to offer benefits to employees in domestic partnerships, but some law professors have warned that the language could invalidate domestic violence laws and disrupt child custody cases.
"We are going to be enacting language into the constitution that no one knows what it means and could hurt citizens of this state and that will take years of needless litigation to resolve the meaning," Maxine Eichner, a law professor at the University of North Carolina School of Law in Chapel Hill, told the Associated Press.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/12/north-carolina-house-approves-same-sex-mar...
"Any surprise this was done by a GOP - led House???" Bigotry "O" Plenty, I take it!!!
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PIANORAMA
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Maybe everyone should boycott marriage until everyone can marry . . . Weddings are a big business - guess that wouldn't help the economy.
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PIANORAMA
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RevKen
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I am going to attack this from a different angle:
We all know that Same Gender Marriage is going to happen, even the most conservative christians know it. They can slow it down with their laws but eventually they will lose in court.
Being as these Tea Baggers keep running on fiscal responsibility how can they justify passing laws that they know will cause governments to spend money defending them and they know they will lose in court.
Seems like a waste of taxpayer money that could be better spent making life better for all of us, instead of making life miserable for some of us.
- 8 months ago
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RevKen
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Imzadi
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This is so outragoeus. I believe the DNC should move their convention to another city and state where civil liberties are recognized. If you agree, please sign my petition and encourage others to do so.
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Imzadi
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kennymotown
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Imzadi:
Absolutely move the convention!
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kennymotown
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Progresshiv
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Imzadi:
Signed, tweeted, and voted up. Thanks for posting.
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Progresshiv
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Imzadi
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Progresshiv:
Hugs!!!!!
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Imzadi
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EdJoyProductions
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Imzadi:
Signed. Discrimination should not be rewarded!
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EdJoyProductions
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Paratus
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Regardless of your position on this issue the state has the absolute right to do this by either popular vote or legislation.
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Paratus
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Lisayou
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If you get the stupid sheeple to worry about Gay Marriage then they won’t be worried about fixing our crumbling economy. There are many ways the rethuglican machine has found to distract the stupid.
Here a few:
• Religion
• Sharia law
• Gay marriage
• Mosques
• Obamas is a secret scary Muslim
• Where’s the birth certificate
• Universal Health care will kill grandma
• Death panels
• Manufactured debt ceiling crisis
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Feel free to add to the list as there are many more.I am so sick of their Bull Shit, but how do you get stupid people to open their eyes?
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Lisayou
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mickyjon420
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Lisayou:
"how do you get stupid people to open their eyes?"........... Hope they kill themselves off?......*rim shot*, *cymbal*
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richardparks
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I both agree in gay marriage or not. I really don't care but I believe that everybody should be given a chance to be happy.
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richardparks
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bike10
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GOP/Tea Baggers who want to limit governemnt but want government in the bed room and our personal lives.
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eden49
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...nothin' could be finer than to be in...oh wait...@#$%heads...
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eden49
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congoboy
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a non issue
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congoboy
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savvy7
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Too many regulations for Wall Street, but too few regulations for Castro Street, eh? That just about sum it up?
Paul Stam claims fears of people who currently live in Iowa, California NY and Massachusetts coming to North Carolina to, what: contaminate North Carolinians (I didn't know "gay" rubs off)?; confuse weak-minded citizens of NC into thinking that they were gay all along?
Most of the citizens of those states have better places to go than NC, and Paul, where are the jobs? What are you doing about the economy? Education? Roads and bridge repairs? Quit the grandstanding and do your g-d job!
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letsliveinpeace
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Good article!
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letsliveinpeace
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chew_chew
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Par for the course. The party of less government continues to create more government.
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chew_chew:
Government, like laws & taxes are made for "little people"
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chew_chew:
The decision is being made where it belongs ... at the state level. The people of North Carolina will decide what's best for them not the federal government deciding what's good for New York is good for North Carolina. People are free to move if they don't like a state's laws.
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Warren_Merrill:
I don't understand how your comment is relevant to my comment. I made no mention of *where* Republicans infringe on civil liberties, only that the do.
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To Democrats, it is the "economy stupid." To Republicans, it is "gays, immigrants, and guns stupid." Guess who cares enough about these issues in North Carolina to go to the polls and vote for them?
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Mark701
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"The North Carolina House of Representatives has approved an amendment to the state constitution that would define marriage as solely between one man and one woman."
Methinks they doth protest too much. All this means is that the Republicans can't marry who they really want to marry.
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After reading Noxidereus' comments below, I have nothing to add...that says it all ! Good job, Nox.
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noxidereus
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The Republican constituency of that state is full of drooling retards. Not only are they ignorant and hateful, but they are also allowing themselves to be distracted from the real issues. They are so vacant, so stupid, so imbecilic that they think stuff like this is important and they allow themselves to be distracted by it while corporations and the elite are screwing people over everywhere you look in this country. This is why the American people have already lost. Those of us who are paying attention and aren't mentally insane are surrounded by a never ending sea of zombie morons, enveloping us in stupidity drowning out the voices of reason.
This is all by design. Those who are following their fake politicians and fake issues like this are fools that are damning us all to slavery. Full speed behind. We are going backwards.
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noxidereus
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noxidereus:
When you don't get what you want lash out as viciously as possible rather than work for change, right? When liberals get what they want they tell conservatives the shut the F up. When liberals don't get what they want they get vicious. Pure hypocricy and intolerance.
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Warren_Merrill:
Upon further reflection you may come to understand why intolerance of intolerance is not hypocritical.
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Warren_Merrill:
Really? Your spokesmodels do not berate everyone that does not agree with them? So I can see civil, intelligent discussions with both sides of an issue represented on Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck without ultimately having the subject degrade into name calling and camouflage bickering?
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Wyley_Wombat
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Well this is the state that gave us Jesse Helms, so does this surprise you. This is also the state where they charged a cover charge "to keep the blacks out" when the band playing was The Preservation Hall Jazz Band. I still can't figure that one out. Did the band have to pay a cover charge? It is a state full of reactionaries hiding behind white picket fences.
"The land of the boll weevil
Where the laws are medieval
Is calling me to come and nevermore roam
I wanna go back to the Southland
That y'all and shet my mouth land
Be it ever so decadent there's no place like home".
Tom Lehrer - 9 months ago
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savroD
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These people in North Carolina are sick in the head. It reminds me of the tea-bagger repuke-athons last night cheering for the hypothetical death of someone choosing to be without health insurance. These sociopaths need to be treated for mental illness!
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coolplanet
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Funny, my old college roommate from North Carolina called me a few days ago.
I hadn't talked to him in years and he said, "Don't tell me you voted for Obama."
I said, "Proudly so!"
He went ballistic, calling me an idiot over and over, and then asked, "Don't tell me you believe in global warming?"
I said, "It's a scientific fact."
He went even more ballistic, telling me he would come up here and strangle me.
At that point I asked, "Is that how you make a redneck?"
We both burst out laughing and he said, "Don't you mean that's how you make a neck red?" - 9 months ago
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transfire
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Gays, gamblers, pot smokers and unpasteurized milk drinkers, and all others persecuted by the majority minority, stand together and fight for your rights! Put forth a gay smoking cowboy with a milk mustache -- all Brokeback Mountain like, and the populace will succumb.
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ThirdSection
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And this will address the state's piss-poor employment rate how?
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cherry5000
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i guess these idiots in the state legislature of north carolina don't seem to realize that the bible does not state anything about a one man, and one woman rule. thanks for posting this kb723.
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KB723
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cherry5000:
You are more than welcome cherry5000... =)
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noxidereus
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cherry5000:
Further, they do not realize that the bible has no bearing on secular law.
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Anonmaly
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Obviously Ron Paul didn't have a say in this one.....
Because despite all the flat out LIES the Donner-Party has made about him being anti-homosexual (shhhh don't tell anyone, but any actual Dr. worth half his salary frowns on the idea of anal sex.... Especially proctologists...)
Paul has been consistent in stating that the government has no place in marriage...
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Anonmaly:
A Doctor??? So was Mengele???
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KB723
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KB723
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A Woman Scorned, LOL!!!! =)
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KB723
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Milieu
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So, N.C. is going to allow Gays to be married-- Wonderful. Perhaps someone should point out their legal idioticy to them.
At least that's how I read this based on Wiki definitions:
"The banns of marriage, commonly known simply as the "banns" or "bans" (from a Middle English word meaning "proclamation," rooted in Old French[1]) are the public announcement in a Christian parish church of an impending marriage between two specified persons. It is commonly associated with the Church of England..."
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Milieu:
I think you misread the headline???
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KB723
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alexandrek [removed]
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Milieu: This comment was removed by its owner.
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KB723:
poor pun ************ bans > Banns
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Milieu
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alexandrek:
Oh course they deserve exactly the same rights.
I was making a pun on bans
"poor pun ************ bans > Banns"
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Milieu:
LMFAO!!!, Great come back Milieu, Voted Up and still Laughing my Ass Off!!! =)
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KB723
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HarukoHaruhara
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Happiness and joy and love ... are gender non-specific.
They just are.
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HarukoHaruhara:
Well said Haruko and I agree... =)
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HarukoHaruhara:
That about says it all.
Great post! - 9 months ago
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faye59
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They are still stuck on social issues that should already be settled. What a shame they are not more concerned with the economc issues confronting their people.
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faye59:
A Shame indeed and even more so that they were elected to serve the people's best interest... =(
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faye59:
You said it faye59 -- I totally agree.
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Okay....double entendre` time!
What is a Georgian politician's Platform he runs on?
Answer: "You take the high road and I’ll take the low road, and I’ll get elected before you."
Georgia is on my mind...}8^)
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Leen61
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It's too bad that some people in North Carolina feel this way toward gay couples. The powers that be will take away your rights and that is very unfair. It's a shame this is even an issue. We all should have the same rights and freedoms.
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Leen61:
They are taking away all of our rights to begin with Leen... =(
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Leen61:
Before you condemn a whole state as backwards, may I kindly remind you of the state of affairs in Wisconsin.
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Nabe8:
Hey Nabe8, Perhaps you should know that Leen is a woman of Wisconsin.... She knows quite Well of the affairs in Wisconsin...
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KB723:
Which is my case in point.
One should not condemn whole states. - 9 months ago
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Nabe8:
Perhaps it is you that decides these things??? Do you live in Wisconsin???
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KB723:
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I'm not sure what you mean.
My point is this:
I'm against people saying "Don't move to Wisconsin because it is backward and they will never change."
It's unfair to people who live in such states where they have little political control because they are in the political minority.
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Nabe8:
Talk to Leen... I live in Denver and wish you a good night... =)
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KB723:
Um, thanks for your clarification on what the heck you meant by all that.
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Nabe8:
"I'm against people saying "Don't move to Wisconsin because it is backward and they will never change."
"It's unfair to people who live in such states where they have little political control because they are in the political minority"
That is correct, Nabe8. I should've worded my response much differently. I do know better than to condemn a whole state. I've had to defend WI many times. My bad, indeed. I should've said something like "It's too bad that there are people in North Carolina who feel this way." I apologize and shame on me for typing what I did. I will edit my comment now.
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Leen61:
I live in New Orleans, and Louisiana politics are super frustrating, because the rest of the state leans heavily Republican. That's why this aside resonated strongly with me, because I love my state, but I just hate the politics.
I appreciate your openness, your empathy, and your readiness for intellectual discussion. And if I worded anything harshly, I do apologize. It's less that I'm offended, and more that I'm on a personal crusade to make people aware of sweeping generalizations: especially one's that involve generations with state populations. After all, even though Louisiana votes Republican religiously, it's only by about a 60% majority. So this type of generalization is far from accurate.
And I do read and enjoy your comments on a regular basis.
Happy posting!=D
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Nabe8:
I love my state but hate the politics too, Nabe8. WI never used to be like this. It's unreal to me how it has changed but like you, I don't like generalizations or blanket statements, either.
Thank you for your kind words, Nabe8. And like LA, here in WI, it's Madison (Dane County) and Milwaukee (Milwaukee County) that vote Democratic. It's the outlying areas like Waukesha County and Ozaukee County that vote Republican.
"And I do read and enjoy your comments on a regular basis." Thank you. :)
Happy posting to you, too! :)) Peace.
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KB723
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Hey Cool, Negatives again!!! So what's the deal??? Why has LiberalSaviour aka Funky Not yet Been Removed???? Huh????
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KB723
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amo42
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This legislation is being timed to get it on the ballot during the 2012 election so that the State does not go for Obama. This may back fire on them.
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amo42:
That would be nice to see... backfire in their Darned faces, Darned bigots!!!
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Timmit
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The replican run off hate and fear. The Democrats will never get it together.
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Timmit:
Correct!!!
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Timmit:
The reps pull these social issues out during every election. If people are so uninformed that they fall for this yet again, then I fear a bleak future for the nation.
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I really wish all the same sex loving people would just up and leave like the undocumented people here in Ga. did. There was no-one to pick the crops and many farms went under and people lost them because the workers refuse to come back after the "immigration" bill was passed here. the assholes realized they shot themselves in the head when they allowed the Republican rum state to ban non documented workers.
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nardo1224:
Sorry to say but I want all undocumented workers to go back home and come here Legally... This really has nothing to do with same sex marriage...
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nardo1224:
Do you realize what would happen if all undocumented immigrants and LGBTs left Georgia? The state would be left with nothing but intolerant homophobes and their economy would hurt like Hell. Why, there aren't enough bigoted, racist, closed-minded KKKlowns to pay taxes and there wouldn't be the necessary funds to keep the lights on in Georgia!
And that would inspire some songwriter to think up a song to describe what it would be like to live in a darkened Georgia.
Georgia...it's gonna hurt!!!!
Oh wait....nardo1224......you're one "smooth character"!!! Subterfuge has been lost on those who misunderstood you comment!
Damn, you're good! Satire is my "game"....and it seems I'm not the only one "playing" it!
"The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia" - Vicki Lawrence
LMAO!
}8^)
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KB723:
I wish I could say that to the pilgrims.
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Buckeye_Bill:
Love that song and was just listening to it the other day.
"Don't trust your soul to no backwoods southern lawyer"
No truer words were ever spoken.
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nardo1224:
As I was reading your comment you posted, I couldn't understand how someone "downed" it except they MISSED your "satire" COMPLETELY!
Of course, I "up" it to remove that "minus"....that was all I could do from where I sit.
Isn't it a shame that there are those that could not "see" the subterfuge in your post?
With all my sincerest respect, B_B!
|8^)
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KB723:
WOW...KB. You seem to have struck a nerve with some here when you spoke of having undocumented human beings leave and then return to the U.S.!
Who would be left to pick our veggies, fruits, clean wealthy homes, garden their lawns, clean upo after the rich or any other menial task that is beneath 99.999% of Americans to perform?
It's a shame that on one hand we want them here to do our bdding, yet we can turn around and tell them they're not "wanted here".
Hypocritical on our part, do you not think?
I truly believe that if a non-Western Hemisphere person (from where your ancestors orignated) was to tell a Western Hemisphere (Northern, Central or Southern) originating human being to "go back where you came from", would that not be impossible for them to do...since they are where they "came from"? Right here?
Kinda like telling a Lakota, "Go back where you came from, buddy!".
And the Lakota would answer, "I AM home you idiot! Go back where YOU came from...and don't let the teepee door-flap hit you in your arse on your way back to Europe, or anywhere else your ancestors came from!".
Just sayin'....
P.S. I feel it in my bones that you are a caring human being and wouldn't want ANY harm to come to another human being! Dollars to doughnuts!
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Buckeye_Bill:
With some people it's very easy to see but not see!
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nardo1224:
Like ears? Many possess them but only a very few have the "listening" kind turned on!
LMAO!
}8^)
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Buckeye_Bill:
Right, those who believe the purpose for having them is to dangle cute shiny objects from them lol
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Morons. The bad karma train is coming for you people that feel comfortable with denying other people's basic rights.
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EdJoyProductions:
I sure hope so EdJoy... =)
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These Retuglicant legislators can kiss my gay ass....... ah, that is when I'm not shooting rainbows out of it.
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joeredford:
WOW!!! He's shooting rainbows out his arse!
Better than monkeys any day!
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joeredford:
Yes, and they can Kiss mine as well, sorry no rainbows to show, but I agree... =)
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Buckeye_Bill:
Ouch...those claws must hurt like hell climbing out. Oh, well, there are a few people around here with worse things up their butts.
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KB723:
Rainbows not necessary....you're on the correct side and that's all that matters.
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joeredford:
I agree joeredford... Nice to see Ya... =)
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KB723:
You ever need some rainbows, you just give me a holler, ya hear?
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joeredford:
LOL, Will Do... =)
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joeredford:
I'd say the same but these closeted, self hating homophobes would love it too damn much and I refuse to give them any pleasure in this world if I can help it.
nice pic though!
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joeredford:
I like how the second rainbow lines up with your back, good shot.
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nardo1224:
I wonder at times if these people have ever had any pleasure in their entire lives.
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joeredford:
I think they sincerely believe misery is pleasure which is why they love to be miserable!
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joeredford:
"Ouch...those claws must hurt like hell climbing out."
It DOES remove dingleberries quickly!
"Look Ma! No more hemorrhoids!"
Ahhhh,,,I feel better already!
LMAO @ that!
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mickyjon420:
I'm the mascot for the Rainbow Coalition.
- 9 months ago
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nardo1224:
True, but they insist on making us miserable too. LOL.
- 9 months ago
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Buckeye_Bill:
Gotta stay away from those Rethugs Bill, thery are all a pain in the ass.
- 9 months ago
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