Psychologists: Questioning 9/11 Is the Sane Thing To Do! I dare you to watch the video, it may be the answer you've been avoiding.

Thanks, I was really thinking this calling of real thinking people as tin foil hats crowd needs to stop. And this article makes it quite clear who is stuck in their emotions and haven't come to terms with what happened that day and it isn't those of us who want a real investigation!

Thanks I can't wait to watch!

Riiight, because Bill Maher is a top scientist, physicist, engineer, structural engineer, chemist, and specialist in explosives and controlled demolitions, eh? LOL! On this issue, Bill Maher is totally wrong and ignorant. Furthermore, as any intelligent person here has noticed, nobody has proposed any conspiracy theory, all that has been done was to prove that the zany official conspiracy theory simply doesn't hold water.

When did Bill Maher get his degree in structural engineering?

I really miss watching "real time", but he's such an arrogant fuck, the type to give liberal elitists a bad name, ls.

A lot of time has passed since 9/11, and I have not commented on the subject largely due to my emotions, but for what it's worth, I wanted to stay something now. There is a difference between conspiracy, and conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory is where you have one or more people which make propositions that are largely -if not totally- unsubstantiated by historical fact, conspiracy however, is an objective truth, gained through historical evidence. The assassination of Abraham Lincoln for example, was in fact and by definition, a conspiracy, the actual Causality of the collapsing of the twin Towers is a different matter altogether.

The long and short of it is this, if one is saying that the collapse of the twin Towers is a direct result of the impact of the jet aircraft, they would be absolutely correct, if on the other hand, one is claiming that it was an inside job, and that there was demolition charges placed inside the buildings just before the aircraft impact, is bunk, there is absolutely no true substantial evidence to claim this was the case, their are very real, credible and substantiated reasons explaining precisely why the twin Towers collapsed as a consequence of the aircraft impact, there would be no demolition charges necessary to accomplish this, in simplest terms, this entire aspect of the argument is conspiracy theory bullshit.

As far as conspiracy goes, it is very possible-if not likely-that the Bush administration, operating in cahoots with the Saudi government, is responsible for the tragedy, that is currently-based on the latest evidence-the most likely scenario, for reasons that should be self explanatory, given the current state of political affairs in this country, after all, if you will remember, that was the definitive moment and point where the culture of "terrorism" took hold in this country, and all of the resulting diminishing of civil liberties and individual freedoms under the guise of "security" of Universal and unending "boogie men" and "Terrorist alert colors" was successfully created, and we have largely been operating on that premise ever since, Xenophobia and nationalism being the favorite creations of despotism.

And where do I get my ideas and opinions from? well, for one, I lost a friend in the twin Towers, and for the other, I have a close friend who worked in the design of the twin Towers, overseeing the construction, as a structural engineer, who explained in great detail engineering and design characteristics of the structures.

When it comes down to it, any and all of you can believe whatever you want to believe, hell, you can believe the moon is made out of purple cheese if you want, believing It was a inside job-as far as demolition charges being placed is concerned-which includes lower life forms such as Alex Jones, and those of his ilk who also wish to profit from this horrible tragedy, or you can believe what the most logical and readily available evidence suggests, that the people who perished on that day, were cogs, in a wheel, that they had no knowledge of, but were nonetheless utilized, to further the agenda, of a despotic and treasonous government.

as always, I remain, V

Bill Maher. just lost ALL credibility with me! What a moron! I will NEVER watch his show again

Twin towers fell too rapidly and cleanly / uniformly - therefore explosives were necessary to accomplish both.

It's not a matter of belief - there guy, it's PHYSICS

By the way, bldg & wasn't hit by a plane and yet it fell too rapidly and cleanly / uniformly also

Well I just literally woke up from my nap before heading off to my graveyard shift and all I have to say Mr. V. is you are probably correct about no explosives involved in the twin towers. But on the other hand, building 7 and the almost never heard of building 6 are of a different destruction. Beneath the twin towers the 2,000 degree fires burned for weeks and as far as I know rubbing two rocks together or two pieces of steel together as I can imagine was happening at thousands of times on it's way down has never produced a fire so intense in heat. I currently work at a company that builds titanium parts for aircraft engines, and I have learned quite a bit of information about titanium engine parts since I hall them around from plant to plant and that metal is amazing and takes a very high heat in our foundry to be formed into molds and jet fuel certainly burns at a much lower heat required to melt titanium. So where did these parts go? In the Pentagon incident why where video tapes from surrounding businesses confiscated within a half hour after the crash by men in suits representing our government? For what reason? These are just a few questions left unanswered for us all to contemplate. I mean really why would a government need though s tapes so quickly or even desire to obtain them in whatever time frame they retrieved them, and still today they have never been released. I guess just that one incident in enough to brand the episode a government inside job. Hell thats not even taking in consideration many other loose ends with government finger prints all over them. Just food for thought my friend. Well I'm off to help build those Dreamliner titanium parts for those Rolls Royce engines, see yah!

Riiight, because Noam Chomsky is a top scientist, physicist, engineer, structural engineer, chemist, and specialist in explosives and controlled demolitions, eh? LOL! On this issue, Noah Chomsky is totally wrong and ignorant. Furthermore, as any intelligent person here has noticed, nobody has proposed any conspiracy theory, all that has been done was to prove that the zany official conspiracy theory simply doesn't hold water.

What has Chomsky to say about Bush's ludicrous rip off of Habel Hassam and his 40 Theives. Bush's version may be a violation of copyright. He only changed Habel's name to Bin Laden. The thieves were marked down to 19 hijackers and there is NO evidence they ever hijacked any aircraft at any time! How does Chomsky manage to conclude that Bush's conspiracy of 19 hijackers is NOT a conspiracy theory??? Has Chommy gone senile? Listen up, NOAM, conspiracies are DEFINED LEGALLY.. .the laws are on the books. You can get access to them at CORNELL UNIVERSITY LAW LIBRARY (online) and at FINDLAW. READ THE CASE LAW, NOAM!!! Knock yourself out! Otherwise, STFU! Addendum: the must be THOUSANDS of adjudicated case having to do with CONSPIRACIES. That's a lot of fucking case law for something Noam thinks does not exist.

I respect Chomsy , but i do not agree with him on this .

Chomsky does not dispel diddly squat! I have ZERO respect for this door knob. He is becoming feeble in his old age and like Nader, stroking himself at the expense of any fool who will listen to him.

He and his meandering opinion is irrelevant!

I believe Bill lost his political correct show for a statement he himself made about 911!

Riiight, because Bill Maher is a top scientist, physicist, engineer, structural engineer, chemist, and specialist in explosives and controlled demolitions, eh? LOL! On this issue, Bill Maher is totally wrong and ignorant. Furthermore, as any intelligent person here has noticed, nobody has proposed any conspiracy theory, all that has been done was to prove that the zany official conspiracy theory simply doesn't hold water.

Since when do TV personalities get to be experts on thermite, thermate, the calculus by which FREE FALL is measured scientifically and precisely. Boycott this lying bastard and ---most importantly ---boycott his sponsors.

Excellent! Bill Maher is a very talented comic and cue card reader. I doubt Bill has ever read the case law with respect to ANY conspiracy case in the history of American jurisprudence. I might take his sorry ass seriously, when he produces some academic credentials re: structural engineering and/or conspiracy case law.

and the control freaks who actually hate democracy sure got a beefed up tool kit to keep us down too!

That, is absolutely true.

when in doubt follow the money

Great addition!

Ridiculous, at best, and based on phony science.

"Ridiculous, at best, and based on phony science" - this is how the vast majority of reasonable people describe your position.
We both know the vast majority of scientists have no respect for this conspiracy theory non-sense.

Yes, the vast majority of qualified scientists have no respect for the zany official 9/11 conspiracy theory which only ignorant idiots and those deep in the throes of cognitive dissonance accept as the gospel truth.

I suggest you look up the word 'conspiracy' ---both its legal definition and as it is used in literate speech. It was BUSH and his administration who proposed the most ludicrous, fallacious and, in fact, false CONSPIRACY THEORY of them all. The Bush theory reads like Habel Hassam and his 40 Thieves and is much, much less credible. You need to get up to date! EVERY reputable scientist has proven that Bush's OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY THEORY of 911 is utterly impossible and did not, could not have happened.

There are many reasons that is true. But just three will suffice here: 1) there is no evidence that any of the said flights were in the air that day and, in fact, the Washington Post reported that flights striking NY, PA, and the Pent were not even in the air and had been mothballed for some six months. That's verifiable in official records; 2) NO wreckage traceable to 77 was EVER recovered at the Pentagon. If you think otherwise, prove it. Show me the wreckage. In fact, only ONE engine rotor was recovered from the Pent; it is about 1/3 the diameter of TWO much larger rotors that would have been recovered had 77 struck the Pent. But two larger rotors (made of TITANIUM/STEEL ALLOY) were NEVER recovered from the Pentagon. 3) NO WRECKAGE WHATSOEVER was ever recovered in Pennsylvania.

Now --as a veteran broadcast (both Network and major market network affiliates) I covered numerous crashes from Piper Cubs, fighter jets, to airliners. Guess what: there is always wreckage and that is so in every case but Bushco's. In every case wreckage was gathered and identified; in many cases the aircraft was reassembled. This was the case at Lockerbie Scotland when a terrorist blew up an airliner which left debris all over the village of Lockerbie.

Unlike Bush's ordered cover up and destruction of material evidence (a crime in and of itself) every scrap was recovered and the entire aircraft reassembled. Now --a word of advice. Stop labeling as "conspiracy theorists" those who --in fact --are debunking a conspiracy theory, specifically, Bush's utterly absurd and just as baseless conspiracy theory of 911.

The Bush conspiracy theory of 911 is 1) stupid and only the stupid and gullible believe it 2) baseless, i.e, there is NOT A SHRED of admissible evidence of any kind to support a single word of it 3) it has been my experience covering numerous high profile murder trials and airliner crashes that it is ONLY the guilty who are motivated to lie about a crime. An innocent person would be NUTS to cover up and/or destroy evidence that might exonerate him/her! Bush lied about 911 on numerous occasions and he ordered the destruction of evidence that would most certainly have convicted his lying ass of MASS MURDER and HIGH TREASON!

Well done my friend, long time no see!

kenny, very kind of you, mon ami. Indeed --I have been heavily involved in some other projects but --rest assured --have not abandoned La Cause. Again, thanks for you encouraging words.

Awesome, I was definitely honored to see you and Ms. V commenting on this post! I would love for you both to make a video comment for the kennymotown show sometime soon!

Absolutely....keep me informed. And thanks, I am honored.

Great, just sent you the contact info:)

That's not so! The vast majority of professional architects, engineers and physicists have already gone on record stating that the official conspiracy theory of 911 (BUSH'S CONSPIRACY THEORY) is utterly impossible, defies the laws of physics. That's strong enough. But there's more: the Washington Post reported that Hani Hanjour could not have been on board; he had NO ticket, no boarding pass; there are NO OFFICIAL records at either BTS or the airlines involved that place ANY said flight in the air at the time and date.

Washington Post reported that several flights --including 77 --had been mothballed for some six months and there is NO RECORD of any of them being rushed backed into service at the 11th hour! Clue: they were not! And there is no evidence that they had been.

Moreover --NO wreckage traceable to 77 was EVER recovered at the Pent. That's consistent with the Wash Post report that 77 had been moth-balled and was NOT in the air on 911. That's also consistent with the fact that there were NO ARAB NAMES on the ONLY ADMISSIBLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE TO SURVIVE the Bush order to destroy evidence and that is the OFFICIAL AUTOPSY REPORT OF Pentagon crash victims! That there were NO ARAB names on that list is consistent with the Washington Post report referenced earlier, i.e, Flight 77 was NOT in the air that day. A U.S. Global Hawk might very well have been.

Well done Ms. V.

Great post! Indeed --there must be hundreds, perhaps thousands of physicists, architects, engineers who have literally SHREDDED the Bush conspiracy theory of 911. Bush's theory is not only impossible, it is LUDICROUS and insulting to anyone of any intelligence whatsoever. It was Conan Doyle who said: 'When you have eliminated the impossible whatever remains must be the truth!" Well ---at this point, Bush's official conspiracy theory of 911 can be and should be consigned to a trash heap! It's pure BS! The question to be asked now is: WHO BENEFITED from 911! That's easy and obvious! BUSHCO --consisting of Bush, the Dick, his Energy Task Force consisting of the MAJOR OIL COMPANIES. The major oil companies, in fact, met prior to 911 and literally CARVED UP the oil fields of Iraq between them. They and Bushco had METHOD, MOTIVE and OPPORTUNITY. Arab Hijackers???? Nonsense. Even at the time, the Washington Post reported that Hani Hanjour could NOT have gotten on board Flt 77. HE DID NOT HAVE A TICKET! Now --I challenge any Bush apologist to explain to this board HOW one gets past the gate and onto the airliner WITHOUT first getting a boarding pass and --as everyone knows --you DO NOT get a boarding pass without a ticket. The bush theory is utter fricking bullshit!

I think Leen's video says it best!

http://current.com/http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/the-911-files/911-a-conspi...

Since tens of thousands (more likely, hundreds of thousands) of innocent people have been killed due to the fervor the bush malAdministration was able to ride to war, it IS important to expose the truth. Sure, not all will believe. There is NEVER total agreement on anything. But the truth must be exposed or bad men will pull stunts like this again to move entire populations to go along with insane things, and invading Iraq WAS insane. The culture had to be put into an extremely unhealthy state to get it to go along with cheney's agenda before 9-11 happened. Hells bells, the wish of some to invade Iraq is probably one of the major reasons TPTB picked an unstable guy like bush to be installed as POTUS!

Then, throw in all the changes within our society people have allowed since the 9-11 Fear Fear Fear Northwoods exercise enabled! We have NO rights if you really consider what Patriot Act enables the government to do! Someone in a high place doesn't like you, and poof, charges can be made that result in you being disappeared, no charges, no trial, no way for kith and kin to find you. Ever.

Also, one of the owners of the buildings was interviewed on tv and admitted the WTC never lived up the the financial potential the owners had hoped for and counted on. Plus, there is the matter of asbestos which the owners were going to be forced to deal with. Either a total building retro fit after removal (very costly) or a very controlled dismantling of the buildings (also very costly). Gee, think they might have a monetary interest in letting TPTB drop their buildings, free of charge and in a way that gets around all those costly regulations?

There are parents who will abuse or kill their own offspring. As horrible as it is to know, we ALL know such people exist. Well, there are bad people all the way up the human food chain. It should be obvious a lot of people in high places, both in private sector and in government, do not give a damn about people. To them, people are tools, resources, cogs in the machines that run their one religion: $$$. People are just a means to an end and there are some monsters among us who will spend lives easily.

And that is what some people just are not strong enough to face. We all want to think we have kind and heroic parents. Not all of us do. As a nation, or as small families, some of the heads of households, or states, are insane and abusive beyond description.

You CAN move on .

The bush theory is a THEORY --a conspiracy theory, in fact! Why are his critics called 'conspiracy theorists' and Bush is not! That outcome is neither rational nor smart! It means that education in the U.S. is quite possibly a total fucking failture! What is it about that fact that Bush ass kissers cannot understand?

Anyone tossing around the term 'conspiracy theory' (as you have done) should look up 'conspiracy' in the dictionary first! Then --when you are done at the dictionary --go to Cornell University Law Library online. Lawyers use this site. From there, you can access the HUGE BODY OF CONSPIRACY CASE LAW. Now ---that is a huge waste of resources to include the Supreme Court and the Federal Judiciary on something that you would have believe does not exist! Secondly, I tire of MORONS who call those who debunk the Bush theory by the lame ad hominem epithet --"conspiracy theorists'. READ THIS AND LEARN: no one criticizing Bushco here is a conspiracy theorist. We are --rather --debunking, in fact, demolishing the Bush CONSPIRACY theory of 911. Get a clue!

Thanks, it is great ammunition for those who really have the blinders on!

agreed, but with so much evidence in any direction you might chose to look how can the blinders still be?

Some people's vision will always be tunnel! :)

I'll spare you a big spam link but;

War by Deception Director's Cut

(although you might not agree with all of it, or the politics of the presenter), was a pretty good movie on the subject easily found on youtube...

Ike knew where the MIC was headed. He would know, as they helped him pull off that big win. But he was in a position (and had the skills) to judge them, their motives, what they were capable of. He warned us because he knew them well.

In the very least, there are people who should have lost their jobs, been fined, & jailed for their negligence and cover-ups regarding their jobs. People who had responsibilities that they failed to achieve, and in some cases, individuals we're straight up rewarded/accommodated instead of reprimanded, on top of this, known allies of the terrorists have been given nothing more then a slap on the wrist because of their political affiliations. The 9-11 commission was a joke, one of the same liars from the contra affair among many of the cronies was a main figure on the commission. This event in the least should have been an overhaul of people who failed at their jobs, and we should have been taking better care of the first responders ever since that event, yet neither action has been adequately undertaken. I don't have to believe in a conspiracy greater then this, and you don't have to either. Fact: there has been, at a minimum, a cover-up regarding responsibilities, and for an event that has lead us to where we are today, lashing out at every suspect in terrorism and all of the unfortunate individuals caught in the cross fire, I want a proper investigation on who failed. Along the way, we'll either find out the conspiracy is greater then protecting individuals jobs or we won't. How is this not an acceptable initiative?

That was highly illogical!

and you set aside critical thinking when you lay a blanket dismissal of that which none of us have full grasp of. When you set aside critical thinking, and close a topic off by marginalizing those who do not follow a particular program or tale, you risk losing an awful lot.

We have already lost too much by following blindly as a society. Time to tear back the curtain, look at the reality that Oz just isn't all that great, and set a course to repair and rebuild.

And you can always find a moron who will believe a conspiracy theory if it is 'OFFICIAL'.

The important thing is not to stop questioning. - Albert Einstein

You do realize , do you not that the THIRD ( the one that was not hit by anything ) tower had the hard copies of some very important banking industry papers and , that all three had just been insured against just such an event .....

That doesn't mean anything if there were papers for insurance policies. The tower was hit by flying debris that ignited some floors and the resulting flames didn't destroy the steel beams rather, weakened them to the extent that pressure from other floors only added to the weakening until they gave way and a pancake effect resulted as the far left end began collapsing and move towards the right end. Look at a slow mo of Tower 7. The conspiracy theorists just do the fast version so that it makes it appear that the tower fell simultaneously like a controlled demolition (Mind you that alone would have been obvious since it takes months of preparation and someone would have noticed it at various points).

Guess what? Ben Laden had nothing to do with 911!

People DID notice. They spoke out about mini explosions, dust/debris, entire floors being closed and workers could be heard, about phone/date lines being shut down for days at a time.

Building 7 was the location of Giuliani's emergency command center; he was supposed to be there during an emergency. Why wasn't he?

The language in the insurance documents for these building has specific verbiage to an 'attack'. Not only was was Silverstein paid out once on this policy, but twice because there were two attacks; he made a $500 million dollar profit.

Silverstein himself made the statement that he and the fire department (who aren't trained to do demo) decided to demolish the building because the fire was 'uncontainable'. A building can not be demolished at the drop of a hat, this takes weeks/months of planning and execution. People reported a street level explosion just before the building collapsed. Firemen were heard saying that the building was going to blow up.

The fire alarm system was put on 'test' mode early the morning of 9/11; after which any alarms that sound are considered a result of work being done to the system.

This is not merely a conspiracy theory, but rather a conclusion brought about by inspection of the evidence coupled with logical thought.

Sorry but most of what you said is circumstantial evidence. So I heard and thought and I saw something therefore it must be an explosive device. Why wasn't Giuliani not at the command center? Probably for a number of reasons including the fact that Tower 7 was next to the Twin Towers but I can't say because he just didn't happen to be there again, circumstantial evidence. The insurance paper doesn't mean anything since this has happened before with a bomb being planted in the underground garage of the Twin Towers before so I wouldn't be surprised if attack was one of the things covered in the insurance but again, that doesn't mean he intended on planting bombs in his own building. Fire Alarm in test system before 9/11? Circumstantial again. I had a fire alarm drill today and missed something important. Did that mean that something conspired against me? Also, what is logical thought? How does circumstantial info= to logical thought? Seriously, I could explain any of these events in a million ways. You can vote me down and call me blind but deal with it, thats called CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.

I saw it when it happened , yes , it really was that fast .

Absolutely , at some point , especially when there was massive profit involved , it just cannot be a coincidence . Far too many points converge . And with SO much blood on their hands , do you really expect them to admit the truth ? Oh , no , they will say what ever it takes to put attention somewhere else .

Dude I don't wear a tin foil hat, those that believe the official story of 911 also believe in fairy tales!

Logical thinking - thinking that is coherent and logical; using reasoning to come to conclusions.

Perhaps you can explain any number of these events a million ways, but you can not explain them and their meaning away as a collective group. Together they are powerful in their explanation of what did not take place that day.

You're right, Kenny. Bin Laden was Bush's scapegoat. There is absolutely NO CASE against Binny. Utterly baseless allegations by Bush and co would never have been admitted into evidence by any reasonably competent judge.

Plus he was never even charged with the 911 crime! Hmmm wonder why? :)

That should be on plaques in every public building in the nation! Bravo!

We cannot hold the republic, as Dr Franklin wisely knew to be iffy, if we swallow everything some power hungry people tell us.

Well said!

I think it is a plan , to make life miserable enough , people will have to cling to fantasy/hope , just to get through the day ....

Your right Jan, those that use that same old red herring about conspiracy nuts are the ones with tin foil hats. They probably buy snake oil all the time as well. Time for us to really hit the streets, wall street included!

Right on, Jan! Voted up!

I added some information above and personally I smell many rats.

Many for sure! Paid rats to be exact, to keep the lies going.

Only a fool would disagree , there are too many many arrows pointing to , Damn , Big Money .

same here jan, it smells like cheddar doesn't it? Problem with rats is their smart, tough as shit, and they prefer the dark. Time to put on some night vision goggles. Kenny, load up the buckshot!