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Chris Hedges: Occupy Wall Street is ‘where the hope of America lies’

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"The powers that be do not want movements like this to grow" . . .

"The criminal class has taken power."

"The corporate state wants us to remain passive and frightened."

"The moment we come out and do this, the corporate state is afraid."

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152 comments // Chris Hedges: Occupy Wall Street is ‘where the hope of America lies’ // Video

  • PIANORAMA
  • PIANORAMA
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  • PIANORAMA
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    • "With the value of the dollar at its lowest in 40 years, and no light yet visible at the end of the economic tunnel, survival will depend on our ability to exchange value without cash or traditional credit."

      Source: Insteading (http://s.tt/131BN)http://insteading.com/2011/08/12/bartercard-a-credit-card-for-a-cashless-economy/

    • 8 months ago
  • PIANORAMA
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    • The protesters desperately need food, bedding, medical supplies, and other items to keep them safe and comfortable during the occupation. Non-perishable goods and money orders can be sent to:

      The UPS Store
      Re: Occupy Wall Street
      118A Fulton St. #205
      New York, NY 10038

    • 8 months ago
  • PIANORAMA
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  • Dennis_MyersPsyD
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      Dennis_MyersPsyD  
    • The Skull & Bones articles are archived, dates 09/16/05 and 10/28/05 at the web-site: http://PoliSciCorner.blogspot.com - Item of interest by Keith Olbermann when he was employed by MSNBC regarding apology; dated: 09/21/06. As I stated before, I respect and enjoy this newscaster - but please stop with the apology requests - these people do not apologize - they just keep on taking.

    • 8 months ago
  • PIANORAMA
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  • Dennis_MyersPsyD
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      Dennis_MyersPsyD  
    • There is an extensive history of who and how this whole occurrence emerged . . . captioned at the same web-site labelled; dated 09/16/05 and 10/16/05 "The Secret Society of Skull & Bones". If you have a few moments read it - none of the contents are fabricated . . .

    • 8 months ago
  • PIANORAMA
  • Dennis_MyersPsyD
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    • I wish to thank everyone who has responded to "Letter To The President", posted at: http://PoliSciCorner.blogspot.com - It appears that all share in the sentiment that this has to come to a resolve with out violence. I keep remembering Kent State College when our National Guard turned their guns on students at that campus, and the image of the fallen. This movement at the Wall Street is just the beginning . . . and for different reasons . . . the future of millions are at stake.

    • 8 months ago
  • letsliveinpeace
  • PIANORAMA
  • adamluebke
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  • Buckeye_Bill
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    • PIANORAMA:

      "...the U.S. government helped Wall Street gang-rape the American middle class."

      The world is being ruled by those who want to control everything.

      These are very powerful words...especially nearer the last few minutes of the video that I know YOU will appreciate!

      }8^)

    • 8 months ago
  • PIANORAMA
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    • Buckeye_Bill:

      There is so much information out there for those who care enough to seek it. With knowledge comes understanding. With understanding comes wisdom. With wisdom comes compassion and love. I believe love is the answer - it does no good whatsoever to hate the oppressors. Yes, we can dissent. Yes, we can support those who are protestors on the front lines. Yes, we can vote for and support those who we believe can make a change. In addition, we can quit buying more stuff we don't need, share whatever we can with those who are in need, live simply, and be as peaceful and loving in our hearts as we can possibly be. I believe a better world is coming. So many people are awakening. It's always the darkest before the dawn!

      Great video, buckeye - it got me thinking!

    • 8 months ago
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    • PIANORAMA:

      May I share another one?

      I Find it facinating how Native American Peoples used matrilineal means just like the people of Jewish descent.

      Also, women were often "nominated" as tribal chiefs! It didn't matter what you had or didn't have between one's legs that determined who was qualified to become the Leader of the tribe!

      Some day, the white man may catch up with what the "savages" practiced for millennia here.

    • 8 months ago
  • PIANORAMA
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  • chew_chew
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    • I am happy to see the protests continuing, growing, and finally getting a least a tiny bit of coverage. Yes, I have seen a few spots about this in the MSM. Although, not the depth or scope of coverage this warrants.

    • 8 months ago
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  • gypsysailor
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    • There is very little news coverage about this protest. Why? I asked one tv station down here in the Heart of Dixie if they had been bought off for not reporting this. They pointed out that they had indeed reported on this...with one 30 second spot.

    • 8 months ago
  • PIANORAMA
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    • gypsysailor:

      Mainstream media is owned by the powers that control our government, i.e., corporations, i.e., Wall Street.

      That's why watching "the news" on TV is a waste of time. Not to mention, you get all these brainwashing commercials from big pharma. (ask your doctor, ask your doctor . . .)

    • 8 months ago
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  • Leen61
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    • The Shock Doctrine has come to America. Chris Hedges is good, no doubt. Too bad this will only be seen on the interent. But sooner or later, all hell will break loose and this can't be ignored forever. I hope the people that are occupying Wall Street can hang in there because if you would ask any person on the street or at the store, they probably don't know this is even going on. Sad. But that is by design. Here are the 6 ways the rich are waging a class war against the American people.

      http://www.alternet.org/story/152512/6_ways_the_rich_are_waging_a_class_war_agai...

    • 8 months ago
  • PIANORAMA
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    • Leen61:

      Thanks for the great links, leen61. The Shock Doctrine book by Naomi Klein was an eye-opener for me. I wish more people would ignore TV and read books like this that clearly explain what is happening.

    • 8 months ago
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  • wynnmeg61
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    • I have to agree with Hedges on the limitations of the Internet as activism. We have another problem with cyber-activism, that being that the lizard brain is really active on the Internet. We can challenge the extreme right without being them. Unfortunately, I see way too much of the extremist left on Current. I know I will be voted down, but so be it.

      These protesters have the right idea -- get out and get visible. I am sorry that they are suffering at the hands of Law Enforcement, but I am an old hippy and that is a side-effect of civil disobedience. Always has been. I just hope they stay peaceful regardless of what happens, otherwise they negate their activism.

    • 8 months ago
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    • wynnmeg61:

      And I also appreciate your opinion regarding peaceful activism, in the steps of Gandhi and Martin Luther King, Jr. Peaceful protests, peaceful gatherings, peaceful actions!

    • 8 months ago
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  • savroD
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    • Sorry Chris...
      Thom Hartmann has said it a thousand times. Go to your local Democratic party office and take over the party the way the tea-baggin good time folks took over the GOP. The corporate media isn't paying attention to this and you Chris. Also, anyone who would use a shabby argument of fundamentalism against atheists to defend mainstream religiousity is indeed suspect!

    • 8 months ago
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  • Buckeye_Bill
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    • Does ANYONE not see the parallels of 1933 and today? The stock market "suffered" terribly, yet the wealthy got wealthier! Those that didn't have much to begin with, had far less in no time. A Democratic President wanted to take drastic steps to bring about an end to the suffering of the average worker and his family. The corporations that were in charge of jobs closed factories putting even more people out of work. Even though they had piles of money in the banks.

      What has been and IS happening now? The same damn thing. The stock market has stripped away a huge chunk of the average person's wealth...just what happened to kick the depression into gear back in the 1930s. AND the very same companies that were around then are still with us today! And they are sitting on piles of money and laying off millions of workers. Only this time, factories aren't just closing...they're moving overseas! Never to be seen here again!

      But we have politicians, MOST ESPECIALLY Republicans telling us things will get better if they are put into positions of running the government. Well, when they had their greedy hands on the wheel of the White House "ship", what did they do but GIVE AWAY OUR TAXPAYER MONEY TO BANKSTERS!

      The Republicans are LYING!!! Things will NOT get better if they are voted into power again! Their agendas are to finish off what they started in 2008!

      Can't people see what their GAME is? It's to shrink OUR governent down to a size that will fit into that bathtub Grover Norquist has so they can't drown it ONCE AND FOR ALL!

      You will be on your own. You get sick, you better have the money to pay for a doctor or you will either get well on your own or die trying!

      Retirement? If you don't take a sizable portin of your checks and stash it in a jar buried in the backyard, you'll be seeling pencils or apples to scrape together enough money to buy some food when you're old and can't work!

      Education? Your children will be unable to read OR write and be an ideal candidate for working for whatever a China worker makes because an American company will tell you straight up, "You don't want to work for what I can hire someone to do the same job overseas, there's no job for YOU here in America!". And if you listen to Republicans, they want to get rid of the minimum wage...why? So they can hire your hands, back and legs to do the menial tasks for menial wages! And they say it's none of the government's business concerning child labor laws! Why is that? So they can put you, your wife AND those children that can do SOMETHING for the corporation for as little money as they can get by with paying under-age children to work!

      But think of it like this, your family may be able to work for the same company, so you MIGHT get to see each other more often!

      A family that slaves together...has to stay together...it's the only way you all will be able to afford food!

      However, there is one BIG difference between what happend then form now. There were a lot more farmers who could gorw their own food and were more or less self-sufficient. Remember the T.V. show, The Waltons? Yeah, like that. But today, very few have land by which to gorw enough food to feed a family and take care of other things that a family requires to live. I fear...I mean REALLY FEAR that there will be such a wailing ffrom so many because of the logistics to feed and take care of those that have no way of fending for themselves that there MAY be a need greater than even the richest one on Earth...that's what they tell us anyway...can or will be able to help. There may come a day when you or I will have to step over a dead body that is lying on the sidewalk and no one will care how that human being died.

      But I will care. Just like I care for my fellow human beings today by speaking out so forcefully and with great trepidation!

    • 8 months ago
  • percipi224
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    • Buckeye_Bill:

      Back in the depression even the very wealthy lost everything, the ones who held on or robbed the country are the wealthiest today and have gamed the system to make sure they would not feel the effects this time. We live under a white trash mantra, "as long as it looks good" many are totally unaware of the pain and suffering going on, not just here but world wide, much less why things are the way they are. Many from the depression era voted for Reagan and his bigotry and free market economics, unaware of the gun they put to their own foots and their kids and grandkids. I was a therapist in a nursing home and took the photo book of the wpa to share. It brought up alot of memories, many were kids or teens. One story was horrendous. One woman said her dad got hired by the city (through wpa) to clean out the public out houses and latrines. He would find dead babies on occasion. This tiny town on Oklahoma saw 2 million men and their families come through to work the oil fields. Many are buried as john and jane does with kids in Seminoles graveyard.

    • 8 months ago
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    • percipi224:

      Name some very wealthy families that lost all their money. I've been scratching my head trying to come up with a name...any name.

      The Carnegie, Morgan, Firestone, Ford, Rockefeller, Chase, Getty, Vanderbilt, Du Pont, Mellon, Hearst, Forbes, Schwab, Baruch, Kennedy, Kellogg, Hughes and more...others... than I can name! Then there were those than got rich WHILE the Depression was ongoing. Gene Autry, Babe Ruth, James Cagney, Michael J. Cullen, Charles Darrow, Glen Miller

      Many rich people were in the stock market, but they owned so many other assets they were immune to the fluctuations of the stock market. Many knew what was about to happen and braced for it by selling high and then they turned right around and bought up everything when the prices were low, because they were the only ones with cash! Many MADE millions during AND after the Depression and became much richer as a result.

      So many wealthy that owned factories made money hand over fist because of the war machinery that was needed to make all those weapons, tanks, planes and ships. Uniforms, boots, coats and anything you can think up that the branches of the military needed, they made money supplying them.

      Yes, it was the Great Depression for a very good reason.

      But not for them!

      Sure, there might have been a few....a minute number of rich who lost their wealth compared to most everyone else. But give me a name...please.

      I can't think of one name off the top of my head.

      So, help me out with a name.

    • 8 months ago
  • GavinTheMother
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    • Buckeye_Bill:

      I'm not sure if the term is used on purely economic terms but the concept is the same. In politics it's referred to as "Realism". Overall power is not the most important element. It is relative power that is the goal of those that espouse this concept (unfortunately this is such a widely held belief that it almost considered politics 101 "law") . Think of the story of the man with a most hated enemy where he is promised anything in the world but his enemy would receive twice that which he would receive. So the man asks to be blind in one eye. In politics that is called "Realism". The land in which the man with one eye is king.

    • 8 months ago
  • ampersand
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    • percipi224:

      A sad and telling story.
      I fear that even with the advances we've made in communication and technology since then, that the pressures of a larger population, (read "surplus labor" in Republican argot) both here, and around the world, will result in even more horrendous devastation as national economies fall like dominoes.

    • 8 months ago
  • PIANORAMA
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    • Buckeye_Bill:

      History repeats itself, that's for sure. I believe we might be even more vulnerable to food shortages; nowadays with agriculture taken over by Montesanto and ConAgra. I grew up on a small farm and we grew most of our own food, raised chickens and cows, had plenty of , fruits, vegetables, eggs, milk, meat, and all of it "organic" by today's organic standards. We didn't have money to speak of, but didn't notice the lack of it since we had everything else we needed.

      Thanks once again for your wonderful comment and video, Buckeye!

    • 8 months ago
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    • percipi224:

      This is so true, percipi224. I agree with Buckeye Bill that those who could grow food back then at least wouldn't have had to starve to death. But there were countless families and individuals in towns and cities who didn't have any land on which to grow food. And what you say about many who survived the depression era voting for Reagon is true; i grew up in Republican country (Kansas) and it was considered downright heretical to vote Democrat! Thank you for your insightful comment. Btw, we had relatives in Bethany, Oklahoma (Oklahoma City); the Phillips Oil family was very active in the Nazarene church there.

    • 8 months ago
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    • GavinTheMother:

      Money is the means by which those that desire to rule the world count how close they are getting to their ultimate goal.

      It all boils down to ABSOLUTE POWER.

      That's their "Mother of ALL Wet Dreams"!!

      Nothing else matters to that kind of human "critter".

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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    • PIANORAMA:

      Some disasters, such as the never ending wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, or the endless and sadly comic drug "wars" are explicitly planned for, and you can scale up corporate production to benefit from them stupendously.

      You can work both sides of the street, so to speak, in drug wars by prohibiting some easily obtained more common remedies and marketing more "high tech"unneeded products to the public to the point of insensibility, all with government sanction and support. 10 year olds in the US know more about "erectile dysfunction" than they do about what a healthy human diet is.

      If you do construction, as well as train private armies, and have stock in major "defense" contractors, you can have the State Department authorize you to reconstruct what the US Army just paid you to destroy.

      Siemens just pulled out on any future nuclear plant development in Europe. Private insurance groups were just not going to provide unlimited coverage for that any more.
      In the US there had been a government backed (paid by taxpayers not by investors naturally) insurance to cover huge nuclear plant disasters.

      Factory farm corn and antibiotic ridden mystery meats and their unhealthy intrusion into practically every form of food in the US is subsidized by the US government.
      Locally sourced and healthier fresh food is not.
      In fact, as those producers note, there are more barriers to entry to produce and sell non-factory food than for factory food with a long history of contamination and long term poor health effects.

      You can pick your disaster on every front of the human experience in the U.S.

      One doesn't need to imagine short term conspiracies in the ever unfolding glory of disaster capitalism. Even your reference to 9/11 and the Pentagon, itself has a long back-story that never quite seems to make it in the same articles designed to evoke the sentiments of patriotic memory or patriotic rage.

    • 8 months ago
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  • Buckeye_Bill
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    • PIANORAMA:

      Wealthy businessmen and THE WEALTHY FAMILY EMPIRES are two completely different worlds.

      Jim Bob's Carpet Emporium could be considered "wealthy" in comparison to you or me, but his "wealth" is not Old Money, handed down from father to son that are considered America's Aristocracy.

      Jim Bob might take offense, but that's the way it is.

      Like Mark Cuban, Walter O'Malley or how about Bernie Madoff...now there's examples of wealthy knuckleheads that I would NOT put in the same category as a Du Pont...would you?

      One Trick Ponies...that's ALL they are!

    • 8 months ago
  • Buckeye_Bill
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    • PIANORAMA:

      Oh my. Anyone who has ever studied Egyptian history knows how they were notorious in writing their historical perspective of their foes they defeated during their heyday. So did every major power that ruled over other "tribes" of people.

      To the winner goes the spoils. And their propaganda to brag about who they were victorious over? When has that not ever been the case in the annals of history?

      Napoleon wasn't the first to come to that conclusion.

      And that doesn't take into consideration that even the so-called losers have their own version of historical events, too. And guess what? They make it sound as if they were deceived or taken advantage of by explaining why they lost a battle or war. Everyone puts their own "spin" on what they want their future generations to read about them and their efforts through time immemorial, stretching beyond the reach of memory, record, or tradition. That's why I ALWAYS research both the loser and victor history books. Just because the winners write theirs, doesn't mean the losers don't write theirs! It all depends on which history book you read as to which side of that "coin" you believe was factual. I say it's like a coin. View both sides and the truth will be found in the "middle".

      Now, your video brings up JFK...if you read the Republican version, he was a womanizing, can't be trusted to defend America from the "commies", ineffective President. Do our history books reflect that perspective? No. Democrats feel he was a moving, foreward-thinking man that deserves our praise. Look up JFK in any history book...other than perhaps the latest Texas variety, and you'll read about how he was the Leader over a "Camelot". He inspired America to go to the Moon! The Peace Corps was born from his concept of helping other nations to become part of the modern world.

      But could there be a "connection" between the Bush family and the assassination of JFK? We may never know the full, true answer to that question. All we are left with are innuendo and rumor sprinkled with some tantalizing bits and pieces of recorded, documented information!
      (Click on this link to read more on the subject: http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/bush.htm)

      But there's two undeisputed facts that I do know. One, Dan Rather lied and two, Walter Cronkite highlighted the fact that the John Birch Society had been in Dallas for weeks fomenting hatred against the JFK Administration and Democrats in particular! It's known that they lined the streets with their picket signs voicing their complete disgust with JFK over the Bay of Pigs fiasco, the U.N., and the fact that he was weak with his meeting with Kruschev.

      Listen at the six minute mark where Uncle Walter describes the rightist groups, i.e., the John Birch Society members, and their earlier attack against Adlai Stevenson , the U.S. Ambassador to the U.N, was pjhysically attacked by them!

      All I know is that there's far more known by our government than they let on! It wasn't the first, nor will it be the last time we are lied to by our government!

    • 8 months ago
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    • PIANORAMA:

      VERY few things come out of the mouth of Greenspan that could be construed as the use of the English language. This video was one of the few that could be interpreted.

      But most of his "sayings" can't be deciphered using any language spoken.

    • 8 months ago
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    • Progresshiv:

      No one should EVER speak about religion drinking alcohol! It's disrespectful!

      Politics? The more shit-faced, the BETTER!

      After all, that's where the American Revolution was BORN!

      In taverns! Those were the Twitter, FaceBook, online sites like Current and support groups of the day!

      It gives those that don't have the gumption when they're sober all the "medicinal fortitude" they will need to overthrow a tyrannical government!

      Hiccup!

    • 8 months ago
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    • Progresshiv:

      Here's the truth: If you're going to lie, don't tell little lies. LIE BIG! Then people will look up to you and vote for you. If you're going to commit a crime, don't commit a little crime (steal a loaf of bread to feed your kids, God forbid) because they'll haul you off to jail in a heartbeat. No, no, commit a BIG CRIME! Then you'll get rewarded with a big bonus and live like a king!

    • 8 months ago
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    • PIANORAMA:

      What the "uninitiated" can !earn from history! LOL!

      Here's THE MOST informative documentary I have ever viewed on the subject of beer!

      The title is, "How Beer Saved The World"!!!

      And if it weren't for beer, we wouldn't be reading and writing, farming with a plow, Pyramids wouldn't have been built and America would have perished before it ever got started!

      LMAO!

      }8^)

    • 8 months ago
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