‘Norma Rae’ Dead at 68 After Struggle With Her Insurance Company to Get Chemo

It's OK... go right ahead add what you want. I agree with you.

Koch brothers are trying to kill the Unions all over you know.

Thanks for sharing. It is still a sad state of affairs.

Would you settle for their pictures being on milk cartons? (as in missing)

I'd rather their whereabouts, prison, be common knowledge.

Yes, we voters have shirked our responsibility to tar and feather the creeps who have stolen government, but many of us are too busy making ends meet to march in the streets. The politicians are just simple ass-kissers; the CEOs are psychopaths.

Do you? Not me. I reap what I sow. That's because I'm a farmer. I can see that life as a seamstress has not been kind to you

you mean so long as you don't have to put em there, right Long John Silver?

uh, who do you blame for those who volunteer, for those who pay a good wage, for those who teach, care for, and donate....yeah if one is greedy, I think you can blame them

Unfortunately, RIPublicans are trying to close those offices as part of their budget "deficit' reduction.

What a coincidence, eh?

http://wow.ye

you’re asking someone to believe that the actions of one person is the fault of their society. So the terrorists who crashed the planes into the towers are the fault of all Muslims. The illegal war of President Bush is the fault of all citizens who didn't vote for him, just as it is the people who did. To be honest some of those who did vote for Bush, never suspected he would go that far. Well question sir, if your country thought it wrong, Why didn’t the canuks invade the US.
My god, do you not have one viewpoint that is not tied to an emotional pain, do you not have any sense of balance and reason in your thinking. It seems all you want to do is persecute, and as I think more about it, YOU THINK YOUR BETTER THAN AMERICANS, YOU THINK YOUR SUPERIOR

wow, yeah you're balanced, but the funny thing about is, who would have thought that JC and Des had an emotionally balanced perspective compared to you. At least all they want to do is carry out their so-called justice on the people who deserve it

by the way, I understand JC and Dez contempt they have for those who work for the corporate hucksters, (which is very similar to the contempt you have for Americans) but I believe them when they say, they only want to rid the world of the corrupt corporate decision makers. But I let them defend themselves.

blah, blah yeah oh asinine (don't hold your people accountable, do you) blah, blah
putting words in words in mouth (blame all voters, I certainly didn't say that) Oh, I see I can't use a constructive argument, because you are superior to me, and all American thinkers are idiots, blah blah, blah, elect regulators (get it straight people don't elect the regulators, but coming from Canada, you don't know that) blah, blah think like paul (confusing argument make the connection why don't you, or do I have to do all your thinking for you)

guess what, I don't have the slightest idea about the Quran, but I don't claim to either.

But you have contempt for Americans. You have that European hate of anything American. In fact, your curiosity with Paul is motivated by self-interest and not for the good of the American people. Meaning, "govern locally," is really just a foreign policy objective by anti-Americans, who cares what effect Paul's policies would have on domestic population.

That being said, I don’t blame you, I understand you’re position a little bit better now. Still might disagree, but I agree with the sentiment. Take care.

You make lots of assumptions about Americans, don't you? I have been to six countries on three continents. You? Tell us about the last time you were in Europe, or Brazil, all the global perspective that you gained from your travels. I'm also well aware that America isn't in any way exceptional (well, not in any GOOD way, anyway). I work hard to make America a better place to live, and more like the much fairer system that was put in place in your country, after you used violence to defend yourself from invasion by your southern neighbor, a facist nation that has allowed millions of its citizens to have their property confiscated and their lives terminated so that corporations could be guaranteed to make a profit. History is not your friend. If some Canadians hadn't been willing to embrace violence to defend themselves, you'd be in the same boat I am. Good thing they were braver than you, huh?

I also like how you decided :"How much business can you get done when no one will answer your phone, because your last three receptionists got shot in the face, sitting at their cheap desks? What affect is that gonna have on your shareholders return?" was somehow equal to a war on receptionists everywhere. You can see how this would affect shareholder's bottom line, yes or no? I didn't say I was gonna stop with the receptionist, but if you think anyone who helped you murder me or my kids (in this hypothetical) are gonna get off, you're kidding yourself, as usual.

FTR, I think you're the one who's emotionally imbalanced. You're not violent, even when its appropriate. That's because you aren't capable of violence, are you? If someone was abusing you or your family, you wouldn't do a thing about it. That's what I'm here for. I'll do your job. I'll handle your responsibilities that you just can't handle yourself. I don't mind. I am happy to help, and do my part.

You're oh so welcome.

@ David_H: "The illegal war of President Bush is the fault of all citizens who didn't vote for him, just as it is the people who did. "

I think this one is true. I AM responsible for the Iraq War. And I am sorry as hell for it. Did I vote for George W. Bush? Hell no. But I also, apparently, didn't do enough to convince my friends, neighbors, and family (actually I don't know anyone in my family who voted for Bush, but there is probably someone somewhere) that Dubya as POTUS wasn't a very good idea. Its not entirely my fault, but I DO share in some of the blame. I bought those bombs that got dropped, I paid the pilots to fly. I understand why the anti- US terrorists think I am a legit target. Their logic is sound, far as I can tell.

I sure as hell will try to do much better from now on.

I'm blathering about what a joke you are. Glad you come back to hear it, and that you didn't die of old age during the night. I was worried that your house would catch fire and you'd be unable to escape, due to the injuries you recieved fighting to help keep the world safe for facists.

funny, you forgot to mention all the places outside Canada and the US you've garnered your astute world view by visiting.

Or were you finished?

Your point is still the same: When people use institutionalized violence against you, submit to them, because resistance is futile.

I continue to reject this notion as the fantasy of a coward who thinks that his easy way out is the only way out. Mostly I feel sorry for your unprotected, undefended progeney, if any female is careless enough to let your reproductive material get near her ovaries, which I doubt. Beta males tend to be less reproductively successfull. How then there managed to be so many of you in Canada is a bit of a mystery.

No, you're lame. I still have both my legs. You got yours blown off fighting to keep the world safe for American corporations right to expolit SE Asia.

Do you think Charlie ate it, since you just left it laying there?

Cub Scout and fucking in the same sentence? Thirty lashes Sandy...I don't think there is a badge for that. ;-)

I think Current should probably have a profanity badge too. There are some people who are just plain gifted in that arena, eh?

HAHHHHHH must the sound old people make when wheezing an attempted laugh out through their dentures.

I only have one problem with that....although I am fine with the suggestion. Its the information age...look up the board and where they work and live....take out the CTO, and CFO....watch shit change...and quick.

BRAVO BRAVO....PREACH ON!!! If they think they can kill me or mine, to make themselves richer.....believe ME....I WILL BE COMING FOR MOFOS ON THAT BOARD!!! You want to try and kill me....ok, game on mothafuckas, I will defend myself.....and violently. And that is not the same as hunting out people violently. and Sandy, they can inject me if I live through it or they catch me.

hey if you want to let people take, rob, and kill you and yours while you "PEACEFULLY" watch them with a cardboard sign....go right ahead....Liberty or Death. period. IF they try that shit to me or JC, and we have nothing to lose while people like you are too scared to protect yourself....I'll be going down with a real fight....JOE STACK was the first of many.

hey, if you think I am going out quietly like Norma Rae....bring it on... the police, the sheriff, the state troopers and the fucking FBI. Cause if they are protecting the industry that killed this woman....then they are not my friends. So getting busted to protect myself....I am a MAN...hike up your skirt there sandy and negotiate with killers and their guards how ever you want. THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL ALL OF US and you shrug....hope you don't get sick my friend or know anyone who does.

Ha.... if you think I would be scared of getting busted if this article was about me or mine....you are the definition of a coward my friend.

coward - noun - A person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things.

Don't you love the English language cub scout boy!?!?

....and again I am not advocated unprovoked attacks but the ones that they are killing, should defend themselves, "....by any means necessary". Since you were suggesting that JC read more....get that quote and understand it. Malcom x for the dense.

you repeat yourself a lot. My great aunt used to that, too. Then she left the stove on and we had to put her in an old folks home.

Machines are made of cogs, David.

You just tell your kids that the insurance company is right, you should've worked harder and gotten better insurance, and then they could have a new liver. Too bad you were too lazy, and now they have to die.

What, are you a receptionist for a facist corporation and you got all scared? Sad for you.

That's the same age as your great-great-grandson, ain't it?

Right. Easy for you to say. Someone already did the hard work where you live. And either they used violence, or they didn't have to cast off a corporatist-facist system to do it.

Or some Americans came and did it for you, before being returned to a system that exploited them.

Violence is necessary, when one is having violence commited against him, or his dependants. I understand that you are willingly derelict, but making a virtue of your irresponsibility is just shameful.

they'll just need you to come deposit me in it. Good thing you're available anytime and anyplace, huh?

That would be the Senior Citizen's League, wouldn't it? You're right, its not that entertaining, just repeatedly smacking the dentures out of old folk's mouths all night long. Makes my hand sore.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron." ~Dwight D. Eisenhower, speech, American Society of Newspaper Editors, 16 April 1953

"I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth; I am a citizen of the world."

"These are the gentry who are today wrapped up in the American flag, who shout their claim from the housetops that they are the only patriots, and who have their magnifying glasses in hand, scanning the country for evidence of disloyalty, eager to apply the brand of treason to the men who dare to even whisper their opposition to Junker rule in the United Sates. No wonder Sam Johnson declared that "patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel." He must have had this Wall Street gentry in mind, or at least their prototypes, for in every age it has been the tyrant, the oppressor and the exploiter who has wrapped himself in the cloak of patriotism, or religion, or both to deceive and overawe the people."

Eugene V. Debs.

"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." -Sinclair Lewis

"All war must be just the killing of strangers against whom you feel no personal animosity; strangers whom, in other circumstances, you would help if you found them in trouble, and who would help you if you needed it."

-Mark Twain

"All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers."

-Francois Fenelon

"The Communists are further reproached with desiring to abolish countries and nationality. The workers have no country. We cannot take from them what they have not got" Communist Manifesto

A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. Friedrich Nietzsche
German philosopher (1844 - 1900)

"The most absurd apology for authority and law is that they serve to diminish crime. Aside from the fact that the State is itself the greatest criminal, breaking every written and natural law, stealing in the form of taxes, killing in the form of war and capital punishment, it has come to an absolute standstill in coping with crime. It has failed utterly to destroy or even minimize the horrible scourge of its own creation. - Emma Goldman

COMMUNISM !

"When we are victorious on a world scale I think we shall use gold for the purpose of building public lavatories." - Lenin

"We Americans claim to be a peace-loving people. We hate bloodshed; we are opposed to violence. Yet we go into spasms of joy over the possibility of projecting dynamite bombs from flying machines upon helpless citizens. We are ready to hang, electrocute, or lynch anyone, who, from economic necessity, will risk his own life in the attempt upon that of some industrial magnate. Yet our hearts swell with pride at the thought that America is becoming the most powerful nation on earth, and that it will eventually plant her iron foot on the necks of all other nations.

Such is the logic of patriotism.

Considering the evil results that patriotism is fraught with for the average man, it is as nothing compared with the insult and injury that patriotism heaps upon the soldier himself,--that poor, deluded victim of superstition and ignorance. He, the savior of his country, the protector of his nation,--what has patriotism in store for him? A life of slavish submission, vice, and perversion, during peace; a life of danger, exposure, and death, during war. " - Emma Goldman

As usual, Thomas Jefferson put it best. In a letter to a friend in 1816, he mocked “men [who] look at constitutions with sanctimonious reverence, and deem them like the arc of the covenant, too sacred to be touched”; “who ascribe to the men of the preceding age a wisdom more than human, and suppose what they did to be beyond amendment.” “Let us follow no such examples, nor weakly believe that one generation is not as capable as another of taking care of itself, and of ordering its own affairs,” he concluded. “Each generation is as independent as the one preceding, as that was of all which had gone before.”

Right. Remember when those Yemenis flew airplanes into your WTC, and then you attacked Afghanistan? Oh wait, that was OUR World Trade Center and Pentagon that you went to war with all that American made hardware over, wasn't it?

You weren't America's lackey? Newsflash, during that whole Cold War thingy, had the US and Russia gone to war, they'd have done so using Canada as a big Stratego board. You'd have been called "the battlefield". That's why we kept you set up so nice, and why you had such an excellent standard of living and still do. You're welcome, btw.

And just to clarify, you consider someone telling you that your kid is not worth a liver transplant because they need the money for their fourth vacation home is not commiting violence against you?

What is this about fighting them there to not fight them here? They are here. Now. They mailed me a letter which I recieved today telling me that my healthcare was going up again. My montly premiums have now doubled in the last two years. But they did include some info so if I just couldn't afford the rate hike, they could lower my deductible, because they are just trying to help me get the healthcare I can afford, after they've cleared their profit, and not necessarily the heathcare I need. And if I got sick and they decided that the only way for them to continue to make a profit was to let me die, then they'd do just that. And if it was one of my kids, they'd still do the same thing, and let the kid die, so they can make a dollar.

Sorry that it hurts your feelings so much that I don't intend to go by myself. I can't help but think that's more a reflection of your cowardice than anything else. You had the audacity to tell me that such a thing "could never happen there". I bet people here were saying the same thing, thirty years ago.

we'd have taken on papa joe? I thought that you said he saved Europe from Hitler? Make up your mind, donchakno?

"I enjoy the standard of living I do because I work damn hard and have the fortune of living in a land rich in resources, and countrymen who don't insist on giving it all away to the ideals of military grandeur."

I work hard too, I live in a land rich with resources, and I have to build an army to protect both our countries, because yours just uses mine's hand-me-downs, which we let you do because you historically have made a decent obstacle for our principal enemies, like a big cold moat around the north part of the castle, and you pretend like that is just not relevant at all.

Nice lecture, but the cave dwelling fanatics didn't even attack you Canucks at all, even a little bit and you still sent your sons and daughters to die in Afghanistan, like the lackies that they are. I hope they were just your neighbors kids, and that you personally didn't have to send anyone to die for your American bosses.
I mean c'mon, they attacked Spain, and Britain, and they didn't even bother with Canada. Its because they think you're part of the United States, and you don't even realize it.

you know what....I am man enough to say calling a man like you, a vet, like my father, a coward is WAY out of line and I apologize. However, you tone of talking down to people is a bit irritating. All we are trying to say is fight don't lay down.....but here's your chance. If you were Norma Rae or she was your family what would you do, as a vet. Did you lose some of your leg so some rich executive board can get richer rather than live up to the agreement to cover this woman or anyone else with an illness???? Was Viet Nam worth that? My dad has 2 purple hearts from a war that was instigated and built on lies by Gates....so what is your glorious plans or great elder. Educate us children. Otherwise it'll be obvious your just a troll.

what has doing things your way changed, exactly?

bock. bock bock bock bock. bock bock bock bock bock bock.

run away, clucker. Oh, wait, you can't run, because you donated one of your legs to the People's Republic. Hobble away, clucker.

It mis no longer clear if this is the land of the free. Leaning to all corporations are free. Free of taxation, free of regulation and free to be whatever they choose to be in the pursuit of their happiness.

Now.
Here.
Waiting, gramps.

Hah...a friend of mine just told me her lawyer got a guy off who was arrested for growing two acres of pot. Her lawyer convinced the court that it was for his own personal use. What's not to believe about that?

I too would like to see more "2nd Amendment Remedies" employed. I mean if they want to cry about class warfare, why not give em something to cry about?

Is your life worth less than theirs?
Are your kids' lives worth less than their kids' lives?

Are you sure? Write out the proof.

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I lost it all I don't have no more to give
The doctor tells me I don't have long to live
My friends all say they'd hate to be in my shoes
A man with nothin' ain't got nothin' to lose

You say salvation is the one thing I need
Its hell or heaven and I'm just a bad seed
What makes you think you have the right to accuse?
A man with nothin' ain't got nothin' to lose

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.........are the between two and three dozen assault weapons that they own.

I'll finish your sentences for you, since you nodded off again, gramps.

well said.
(oh epa is good :-)

Its almost like you thought I'd know what this was in response to. Or care. Wait, aren't you that one legged geriatric who wasn't gonna talk to me? Who's the liar, gramps?

"Nor have I ever said the enemy is weak. "

Actually, you did.

"If you are implying that a 'real man' takes up arms to go off to fight a weak foe, I say you are an idiot and a bully to boot. "

Your words.

Apparently we agree on something. Big Insurance would be happy to make me the father of a dead child for a dollar. Your position is that I should not resort to violence to combat this institutionalized violence that is commited against my fellow Americans every single day. My position is that recipriocity is appropriate.

So I guess if its really recipriocity I want, I'd set up shop ouside the CEO's daughter's dance class, and give her a load of #4 when she came out in her tutu. If you'll stop crying about the receptionist, I'll go that route instead, in this hypothetical. Deal?

" And I've not dragged your people into this, why do you feel it is appropriate to drag mine in?"

Really? Who is this? The other guy posting under your screen name hasn't had many posts at all that didn't start or end with what a threat violent, sadistic, greedy, self-centered Americans were to themselves, you and the one world utopia.

"Are all Americans so violently aggressive, or is it just you?

Our goals are not different JCJ78, only our ideas of how best to achieve those goals differ"

You think that defending your families inalienable rights to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness makes you violently aggressive. That speaks volumes.

Our ideas are a lot different though, because I tend not to grovel like a puppy that's been whipped too much.

Not when you've got an echo you don't.

Agree .

Good comment. Thanks.

In China, they execute people for causing deaths for profit.
http://en.rian.ru/world/20091124/156965337.html

Or for amassing a fortune of $5 million while their state-financed investment company goes bankrupt:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3356619.stm

Or for stealing 100 million dollars from investors and spending the money on houses, cars and luxury goods.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/China-executes-two-businessmen-for-fraud-state-med...

But then again, its the PEOPLE'S Republic. The United States is the Corporation's Republic. See the difference?

Yep Big Insurance has had bean counters deciding medical care for some time now. I had to threaten to come to our insurer's lobby with tent, camp stove and reporters to get a simple tumor removed from my hand. REAL care? Forget about it. They know they have time on their side. The problem with corporate personhood is that the corporation does not have a corporal body which will eventually die. They just drag their feet until we die of things we paid them to help us with.

Re GOP & "Death Panels" that was more of that Greedy Old Projection.