Community | October 11, 2011 | 14 comments

Conversations wtih Great Minds - Naomi Klein Occupy Wall Street. Part 1

source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWSRFlyeQ2Y

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For tonight's "Conversation with Great Minds" - Thom Hartmann is joined by award-winning journalist, syndicated columnist and internationally best-selling author - Naomi Klein. Naomi Klein is a contributing editor for Harper's and reporter for Rolling Stone, and writes a regular column for The Nation and The Guardian that is also syndicated internationally. Her writing has appeared in dozens of other major newspapers - including The New York Times, The Washington Post, Newsweek, and The Los Angeles Times. In 2004, her reporting from Iraq for Harper's magazine earned her the James Aronson Award for Social Justice Journalism. She is a former Miliband Fellow at the London School of Economics and holds an honorary Doctor of Civil Laws from the University of King's College in Canada. In 2007, her book, "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism" became a number one international best-seller. Her first book"No Logo: Taking Aim at the Brand Bullies" was published in 1999 and was also an international bestsellerThe New York Times called it "a movement bible," Time Magazine named it as one of the Top 100 non-fiction books published since 1923, and the Literary Review of Canada has named it one of the hundred most important Canadian books ever published. Naomi talks to Thom Hartmann about Occupy Wall Street, the Keystone Pipeline and the economy.
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14 comments // Conversations wtih Great Minds - Naomi Klein Occupy Wall Street. Part 1 // Video

  • PunxatawnyPhil
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      PunxatawnyPhil  

    • Naomi is brilliant and a fantastic Journalist and writer. If you have not read 'The Shock Doctrine', you really should, one of the best Non-Fiction books of our time. You really owe it to yourself to read this book, it is very enlightening.

      She is definitely my hero.

    • 8 months ago
  • Argon18
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      Argon18  
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    • Naomi goes into some of the Potlach "gift economy" and how that changes the values of the culture. Including more of those kinds of values is also part of ILP that they go into in this dialogue

      http://integrallife.com/node/114879

      "In this episode of The Daily Evolver, Jeff and David explore the diverse agendas that are currently gathering beneath the mighty citadels of the U.S. financial district, ranging from post-modern liberals to red-meme anarchists to billionaires like Warren Buffet who insist that we are already deeply entrenched in class warfare—and that his class is "killing" the rest of us."

      In it they go into how the extreme disparity of wealth in the 1890's and the 1930's led to social unrest and economic depressions. They were messy, but those led to reforms like unions for better working conditions and social security.

      And how many on Wall Street get caught up on their own worldview that reinforce their values and it was good to have the protests in front of them to show that the values that only reflect their selfish interests aren't the only ones.

      The dialogue gives a more balance perspective of both sides instead of just left or right and how these protests could lead to more reforms like a targeted income tax to vote on what it is spent on. Reforms from the protests could even lead to radical changes beyond an "employment economy"

    • 8 months ago
  • Leen61
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      Leen61  

    • I watched both parts of this interview. Naomi Klein is excellent. I hope this Occupy Wall Street movement is the beginning of change in this country....and I mean REAL change. I agree with Naomi...let's start treating each other better. Enough of this let them die, let them eat cake, let them go jobless, etc. culture/attitude. We must stop being such a cruel, heartless people. We must get past this culture of consumerism and "I've got mine, I don't care if you have yours" attitude. If we work together, America will be stronger and much better for it. I hope this is also a tipping point for politics. Our system of government must change. I will end with this clip from my great former senator Russ Feingold--who totally stands with the 99% and has always been for election/campaign finance reform.

    • 8 months ago
  • DudleyDooleft
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      DudleyDooleft  
    • Leen61:

      I'm with you on all points leen61! Like you, had to see the rest of the Naomi Klein interview, very astute, always an excellent perspective on progressive and environmental issues.

      Wish all the other dems had the foresight Feingold has.

    • 8 months ago
  • Leen61
  • OlBlue
    • +1
      OlBlue  

    • Just got this from Jim Messina. Sorry if this isn't the right place to post it but couldn't find any better. Call McConnell now!

      Friend --

      The U.S. Senate is supposed to vote on the American Jobs Act as early as tonight.

      It's a bill that will put people to work immediately, and it contains proposals that members of both parties have said in the past that they'd support.

      But Senate Republicans want to block it. Not because they have a plan that creates jobs right now -- not one Republican, in Congress or in the presidential race, does. They only have a political plan.

      Their strategy is to suffocate the economy for the sake of what they think will be a political victory. They think that the more folks see Washington taking no action to create jobs, the better their chances in the next election. So they're doing everything in their power to make sure nothing gets done.

      There's still time for principled Republican senators to declare their independence from this kamikaze political strategy.

      Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader in the Senate, needs to hear what Americans like you think.

      You can reach his office at (202) 224-2541. Tell him not to let politics get in the way of creating jobs.

      Will you take three minutes and call now? Then click here to let us know how it went.

      If Sen. McConnell's office says he won't support the American Jobs Act, ask which parts he doesn't support.

      -- Making sure that those who served our country can get good jobs at home by providing incentives for businesses to hire unemployed veterans?
      -- Preventing layoffs of teachers, cops, and firefighters, while supporting the hiring of tens of thousands more?
      -- Rebuilding our crumbling roads, bridges, railways, and airports with a bipartisan, public-private infrastructure bank?
      -- Modernizing at least 35,000 public schools in rural and urban areas?
      -- Providing job training for the unemployed, especially young people who have been hit especially hard?

      The President has been forceful and clear: Action on jobs is desperately needed, and Congress should pass this bill right away.

      And he has specifically asked those of us who agree to make sure Republican lawmakers know it.

      This bill -- and the simple idea that every American who works hard and plays by the rules has a fundamental right to economic security -- is a big part of what we stand for as a campaign and as a movement.

      There's no good reason for Congress to delay any more -- and if they do, you deserve to know why.

      Call Sen. McConnell's office. Tell him you're watching, and you expect Republicans in the Senate to do the right thing and move forward on this bill today.

      Then let us know how it went:

      http://my.barackobama.com/Call-For-Jobs

      Thanks,

      Messina

      Jim Messina
      Campaign Manager
      Obama for America

    • 8 months ago
  • Vierotchka
  • OlBlue
  • SFirman
  • remanns
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      remanns  

    • That "Let Them Die" shout really does sum up the mind set of many.
      ( and it really pisses me off )

      p.s. - I am hopeful that this new mass of citizens out and about on the street really DOES represent a new 'memes for change on the march' moment in the evolution of American sociology. We shall see. Fingers crossed ; their certainly are cultural/political tipping points history sort of stumbles across.

      p.p.s. Klein is just too kewl.

    • 8 months ago
  • Argon18
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      Argon18  
    • remanns:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEQ5uFKMJYQ

      I'm hoping the protests signal a tipping point also, as Naomi mentioned about the signs she saw the people carrying that said "I care about you" and "compassion is a radical act" that maybe the values will evolve to beyond the selfish ones that Wall Street is stuck on.

      http://www.maketheconsciousconnection.com/2011/01/the-integral-tipping-point/

      It is possible that an Integral Tipping Point" is near and that these protests are the start.

      "The “integral” worldview is the new emerging paradigm that for the first time in history transcends and includes all the previous perspectives that came before it. The “Integral Tipping Point” is what happens when a massive convergence of knowledge occurs simultaneously with breakthroughs in science, technology and our understanding of consciousness & the ancient past.

      As you will hear in the video above it has been the story of history that when approximately 10% of the total population reaches a new pinnacle in their understanding of the world, a revolution takes place. We are almost to this point today as time/space/knowledge is compressed into smaller and smaller bits and our society is connected and converged at a level we can hardly imagine. As Ken Wilber points out in the video, we have reached a stage in our collective conscious development where evolution is actually becoming aware of itself. At the same time we are being called upon individually to consciously participate in this cosmic evolutionary process."

      The "Integral Map or Operating System" does help to navigate this " level we can hardly imagine" and cope with how "evolution is actually becoming aware of itself." that way we can handle the methods that will enable people to repair those "fundamental flaws" in the structure of goverment that Naomi was talking about.

    • 8 months ago
  • Argon18
    • +7
      Argon18  

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udfYr-UuB8Y

      I'd agree with the point that Naomi made about OWS that it is young people getting involved in raising their voices because they didn't get the fundamental changes to the structure of government that they voted for in the last election.

      Jesse LaGreca made that point clear that trying to put convient labels on the protests that the media favors wasn't useful and most of all their demand was to be listened to.

    • 8 months ago
  • Vierotchka
  • remanns
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