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Tea Party Express Founder Supports OWS Movement - Gives Advice

source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/10/14/tea-party-co-founded-expresses-support-for-occupy-wall...

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One of the original founders of the Tea Party movement has told RT.com that he believes Occupy Wall Street is not only comparable to the earliest states of the movement he helped launch but can learn from its mistakes.

“The problem with protests and the political process is that it is very easy, no matter how big the protest is, for the politicians to simply wait until the people go home,” financial blogger Karl Denninger observed. “And then they can ignore you.”

“Well, Occupy Wall Street was a little different,” he continued. “And back in 2008, I wrote that when we will actually see change is when the people come, they set up camp, and they refuse to go home. That appears to be happening now.”

Denninger has been complaining for some time that the Tea Party was hijacked by the Republican establishment and used to protect the very prople it had originally opposed. A year ago, he wrote, “Tea Party my ass. This was nothing other than the Republican Party stealing the anger of a population that was fed up with the Republican Party’s own theft of their tax money at gunpoint to bail out the robbers of Wall Street and fraudulently redirecting it back toward electing the very people who stole all the ****ing money!”

Now he advises Occupy Wall Street, “Don’t let it happen.”

“One of the things that the Occupy movement seems to have going for it is it has not turned around and issued a set of formal demands,” he explains. “This is a good thing, not a bad thing. Everyone is looking for a set of demands. The problem is that as soon as you pipe up with a list of four or five things — and you’ve got to keep it simple and short — then somebody’s going to say, ‘Well, we gave you 70 percent of it, now go home.’ And the fact is, that’s exactly the sort of thing that happened with the Tea Party.”

“Stay on message, which is that the corruption is not a singular event,” Denninger urged. “You can’t focus in one place. You have to get the money out of politics, which is very difficult to do, but at the same time you can’t silence people’s voice.”
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20 comments // Tea Party Express Founder Supports OWS Movement - Gives Advice

  • Dagum
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      Dagum  

    • Yes, Beware big money will try to co-opt the movement as they always do. He right about how the Tea party was large co-opted by the republicans.

      I remember at one point in time there was even Democrats running as tea party candidates before the tea party was co-opted.

    • 7 months ago
  • nanac
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      nanac  

    • Beware of the wolf in sheep's clothing! Denninger make some good points, however, you have to take them with a grain of salt.

    • 7 months ago
  • Anonmaly
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      Anonmaly  

    • Lmao... Come on, we all know Ron Paul instigated this shit when the Koch brothers took over the tea-party....

      (yeah so adbusters took credit.....)

      And one of the bigger supporting non organizations ie. Anonymous.... Predominantly anarchist or the kinder gentler "libertarian"....

      So..... Once again partisan shit comes into play... The democrats want to claim it, and the republicans are all to eager to help them do so with dumb statements...

      Sad, the movement is about the people.... And neither side of the two party paradigm is going to help anything... Why do people vote for them? Oh that's right because you have something to gain by your preferred fascist being in office....

      Of course the "Ron Paul is a republican" card is soon to be played... And RINO's really don't count... It's the only way he could get the stage, and even he really don't want to control the country as evident in his policies, but if we were to slip straight off into an actual free society, the truth is most idiots wouldn't know how to handle themselves....

      So having Ron Paul as a transitional leader is really a good idea, until everybody can understand what the hell freedom really is, and have their brain un-washed....

      (still voting for spork, knowing it's more useful and twice as intelligent as whichever politicians the sheeple masses will vote in.)

    • 7 months ago
  • oldbanjo
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      oldbanjo  

    • They need to tell him to get f**ked. The Tea Party was NOT taken over by the Republican Party it and Palin were bought out be the Koch brothers.

    • 7 months ago
  • AJILIVIZION
  • oldbanjo
  • AJILIVIZION
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      AJILIVIZION  
    • oldbanjo:

      Yes, the Tea Party was hijacked by big oil, health & pharmaceuticals, and other industries that manipulated people that were angry and desperate for change. This man is ashamed of that. He is willing to speak honestly about that corruption and asking for others to avoid making the same mistake. I'm having a hard time understanding why you would spit on a man that is trying to help others.

    • 7 months ago
  • oldbanjo
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      oldbanjo  
    • AJILIVIZION:

      I personally think OWS people should stay away from all of the Tea Party group. So far this protest has been peaceable, I believe that will change if Palin and that crowd gets involved and it will destroy the entire movement. Also I watched the first Tea Party meeting that Palin spoke at, the first speaker sounded like a klan leader, it shocked me that anyone would speak after hearing him. There is no advantage in being associated with that crowd.

    • 7 months ago
  • faye59
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      faye59  

    • Seems to me the last person they need to take advice from is someone who has sold this country down the river for a few bucks. All of those tea party types are posers for Koch and friends.

    • 7 months ago
  • CalPal
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      CalPal  
    • faye59:

      That doesn't sound like the case here.

      Yeah, it sounds shifty as hell coming from a founder of the Tea Party movement, but it sounds like he disliked what the Republicans did with the Tea Party and how they perverted his original vision, considering his version of the Tea Party is one that was apparently opposed to this Corporate-Political union.

      I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss him, but I agree that we shouldn't take his words to heart just yet. He isn't exactly a guy I would put faith in the moment I see him.

    • 7 months ago
  • GavinTheMother
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      GavinTheMother  

    • I'm glad to see this. I've never been a teapartier because it so quickly turned into a Fox news corporate circus. That's why it didn't last. If we can stay on track and maintain focus on what the 99% of us are all in favor of, we can win. Including the non-ridiculous less media covered members of the teaparty, is a very good thing for everybody.

      While I love Ron Paul (partly because I seem to be one of the few who understand his argument) and I'm fiscally conservative, I would vote for Bernie Sanders gladly. "Why? He's a socialist!", "Why?" Because he has integrity and he stands for the 99%

    • 7 months ago
  • oldbanjo
  • Nick19
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      Nick19  

    • The reason why the Tea Party was bought so easily was because it was a Ron Paul Libertarian movement, hence it's support for large corporations naively speaking. Libertarians insist they hate big corporations but they naively believe that the free market should do everything and in response, big corporations agree.

    • 7 months ago
  • GavinTheMother
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      GavinTheMother  
    • Nick19:

      You totally missed the mark. Ron Paul was the good thing about the teaparty. He's for the same things that most ocw's are. Money out of politics, no bs foreign wars, end of corporate advantages and lack of accountability, tax breaks for the super wealthy...etc. The problem is that the teaparty was taken over by rich, corporate interests...i.e. people who hate Ron Paul. The teapartiers just had too many uneducated, ideologues that were easy fodder for the savvy corporate exploitation machine that is the GOP

    • 7 months ago
  • faye59
  • cherry5000
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      cherry5000  

    • the tea party problem was that they let the corporations, koch brothers, karl rove, and the republicans in congress and the senate, hijack their movement.

    • 7 months ago
  • Georgia_Jim
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      Georgia_Jim  
    • cherry5000:

      True!! When they stated the Tea Party Express I new it was Corporate owned and not the real Tea Party. The real Tea Party is on target but the" Express" is Fox and Corporate funded and not real!!!!

    • 7 months ago
  • DanCastro
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      DanCastro  

    • I continue to believe that as a first step we can all rally around the demand that Congress respond to the express will of the people and pass the American Jobs bill ASAP w/o change. If Congress needs proof the 99% are serious, a one day nation wide (world wide?) strike! We can't all take time off to camp out, but we can stay home for a day! Let the 1% try to run the country for a day!

    • 7 months ago
  • cherry5000
  • DanCastro
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      DanCastro  
    • cherry5000:

      Once that bill is passed, I think the next demand should be to make Social Media and Privacy a birthright of a democratic people. Stop spending on war/hate/kill/torture and use our money (from ALL) to make social media a tool in our move towards direct democracy for the nation and for the green planet! People above profits!

    • 7 months ago
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