Feminism destroyed American Women

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The feminist-Victorian antagonism to men was handed down from mother to daughter so that "to millions of women, hostility towards the opposite sex seems almost a natural law. Although many a modern women may pay lip service to the ideal of a passionate and productive marriage to a man, underneath she deeply resents her role, conceives of the male as fundamentally hostile to her, as an exploiter of her. She wishes in her deepest heart, and often without the slightest awareness of the fact, to supplant him, to exchange roles with him." (emphasis mine 56)
Robinson says that if feminism had brought women happiness, the game might have been worth it.
"But it hasn't been. The game has brought frigidity and restlessness and a soaring divorce rate, neurosis, homosexuality, juvenile delinquency all that results when a woman in any society deserts her true function." (56)
Dr. Robinson writes that once the emotional "log jam" is removed, a woman's natural instincts will flow and health will be restored. Essentially this involves "allowing herself to trust her husband in a very deep sense. It means that she finally realizes that she no longer has to fear or oppose his strength, but that she can rely on it to protect her, to give her the secure climate necessary for the full flowering of her femininity." (153)
For a profound vaginal orgasm, Robinson writes, "the excitement comes from the act of surrender. There is a tremendous surging physical ecstasy in the yielding itself, in the feeling of being the passive instrument of another person..." (158)
On the other hand, the woman who mistrusts her husband's love and, as a consequence, her own femininity has a "difficult, painful, frenetic" approach to life. She is at war with herself. In bed, she has to feel "in control all the time."
Robinson regards the clitoris as a masculine vestige. She implies that a woman may still be frigid even if she is sexually active and mechanically adroit. Feminine sexuality depends on "absolute trust" in a man, which allows a woman to fully receive and fully respond.
Dr. Robinson says there is nothing in life more important than love. She believes marriage is the key to human development. The power of love is felt in the world through this relationship.
"Love means, in its very deepest sense union; union between individuals...It is the most basic and profound urge we have and its power for good is illimitable... the lover partner becomes as important as oneself...This fact is why real love never leads to domination or to a struggle for power..." (129 GENDER DIFFERENCES
Robinson says men and women are different by nature. Men are designed for mastery of the external (physical) world, and women for mastery of the internal (spiritual) world and the home. These are not social stereotypes, as feminists argue.
"Women are designed for duties different from those of the marketplace, another kind of stress entirely," writes Robinson. They "tend to lose their essential womanliness if they stay [in the marketplace] by choice." (149)
According to Robinson, modern women have an identity crisis because they think they are no longer needed as women. Before the industrial revolution, the home was the centre of all life and a woman was its heart. She nursed and trained the children, prepared clothing and food, and helped with farm tasks.
The industrial revolution seemed to make women obsolete. Children were not needed and were even considered a liability. Everything could be bought in stores. The home was empty. Children went to school, husbands to work.
Woman's response was to turn against her own femininity. Mary Wollstonecraft wrote a feminist manifesto Vindication of the Rights of Women (1792) that proclaimed women were identical to men, and promoted maleness in women.
According to Robinson, "the feminist credo thoroughly discredited feminine needs and characteristics and substituted male goals for female goals."(53)
The other response to the industrial revolution was not feminist, but "Victorian." Robinson says Victorian women took "revenge" on men by denying women had any sexual feelings. They "were amazingly successful in convincing men in general and even the scientists of the day that frigidity was indeed a basic attribute of the female." (54)
Thus, feminists and Victorian women both laid the foundations for modern female neurosis.
"The depreciation of the goals of femininity, biological and psychological, became part and parcel of the education of millions of American girls. Homemaking, childbearing and rearing, cooking, the virtues of patience, lovingness, giving ness in marriage, have been systematically devalued. The life of male achievement has been substituted for the life of female achievement." (55)
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ITALIANAFRO
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First thing I do not think that there are still living Victorian feminists or women who think this way. second, feminism, if you read in terms widened, led to the 'emancipation of women: you can choose what you want to be and do. if men are not yet ready for this form of liberalization of the woman, I feel sorry for them .. must wake up
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ITALIANAFRO
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congoboy
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ITALIANAFRO:
i'll tell you what. two benefits are, that a mans woman can bring home the bacon and still show him he's a man. a win win for sure
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congoboy
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Kelly_Balthrop
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The only thing feminism destroyed is mans ability to use women like a tool.
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Kelly_Balthrop
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congoboy
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Kelly_Balthrop:
somw women like being used my friend. and if a man uses them right they reciprocate in kind
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congoboy
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Hardytoo
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BUNK.
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Hardytoo
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joeredford [removed]
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..........the big one !
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joeredford [removed]
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Kelly_Balthrop
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joeredford:
You got that right.
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Kelly_Balthrop
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congoboy
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joeredford:
oh sexybeak, i can always count on your undivided support. thanks
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congoboy
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artemis6
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A democratic home is the foundation of a democratic state .
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artemis6
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congoboy
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artemis6:
diaper changing for all!
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congoboy
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attilatheblond
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artemis6:
Absolutely!
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attilatheblond
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artemis6
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congoboy:
If she carries the kid ( 9 Months 24/7 unpaid labor and sacrifice of personal physical health ) and bears it ( risks life and limb 6 to 38 hours of torture ) , Give me an equivalent from daddy . What can HE do that would make it EQUAL ?
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artemis6
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congoboy
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artemis6:
work his ass off to support her and his children. change diapers, help out around the house, bring her home flowers for no apparent reason and take her out to dinner once in a while. men and women are different in more than just the obvious penis/vagina. we are programmed differently. certain traits, tendencies, and specialties are best kept within gender lines
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congoboy
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Me too Liz.
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joeredford [removed]
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joeredford [removed]
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Another pathetic attempt to inflame the dialogue at Current from the reigning king of right wing psycho babble. Anyone who takes this trash seriously ought to have their brains washed...... with battery acid.
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joeredford [removed]
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kennymotown
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joeredford:
Well said!
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kennymotown
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kennymotown:
Thanks Kenny. Doesn't congoboy know by now that every thread he writes should be posted in the comedy section?
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joeredford [removed]
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kennymotown
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joeredford:
He's pretty twisted, I think it's the religious right wing Taliban crap he has been listening to all his life. Pointing out his errors may save him from himself! :)
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kennymotown
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Lisayou
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joeredford:
Agreed! I won't even respond to Cboy.
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Lisayou
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congoboy
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joeredford:
just sharing one womans opinion whom i happen to agree with. take it or leave it, its still sorta a free country
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congoboy
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congoboy
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joeredford:
well the shit head powers that be at current place stuff where they want so it may very well end up there
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congoboy
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congoboy
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kennymotown:
twisted yes, religious right, no. and i think its a universal opinion that the taliban are a group of evildoers my friend
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congoboy
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congoboy
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Lisayou:
thats ok, i wasnt askin for your pent up opinion anyway
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congoboy
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kennymotown:
Too late to save him...he's the one on the right.
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kennymotown
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joeredford:
Perfect!
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kennymotown
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remanns
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joeredford:
That was a very cool graphic - where is it from.
p.s - this question has nothing to do with this threads topic.
JOIN - - -"SF&F and Comics" ; YOU ARE INVITED !
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remanns
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attilatheblond
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congoboy:
So? You may not like it, but she can say what she wants same as you, and to quote you "take it or leave it, its still sorta a free country"
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attilatheblond
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Lisayou:
The only way to respond to him is with hysterical laughter.
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joeredford [removed]
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joeredford [removed]
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remanns:
Just swiped it off Google. Thanks for the invite.
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congoboy
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joeredford:
dont know why im always accused of hating women when in reality ive loved them, and some in some cases very well all my life
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congoboy
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congoboy
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joeredford:
youve obviously mistaken me for someone else. im a bitcher not a whiner
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congoboy
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congoboy
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attilatheblond:
agreed attila. i never insinuated otherwise
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congoboy
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congoboy
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joeredford:
babies, gotta love em. this is the place where priorities lay
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congoboy
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kennymotown
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Where have I heard this one before? Oh thats right Jabba the Hut Rush Lintballs has been preaching this for years. Maybe we should take their right to vote away as well, a sort of Taliban attitude you know keep em locked up and stone them to death if they stray!
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kennymotown
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congoboy
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kennymotown:
never listen to him so i cant give him credit. but after reading this womans excerpts and knowing the women ive known i would say that some have definately been negatively affected by the movement
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congoboy
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kennymotown
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congoboy:
You never have listen to Lintballs? If thats the case you are definitely channeling him. Are you a religious person congoboy?
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kennymotown
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kennymotown
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congoboy:
Are you not going to answer me? Otherwise how can I help you get over your embedded thoughts of chaining up women, and agreeing with the American Taliban!
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kennymotown
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congoboy
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kennymotown:
not saying i never have but i dont make it a priority. actually have turned him off more thanonce
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congoboy
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congoboy
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kennymotown:
i have nothing against chaining up voluntary women. some prefer that scene
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congoboy
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remanns
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added to "Culture".
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remanns
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attilatheblond
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remanns:
We need a 'misogyny' catagory.. It's sort of a sub culture
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attilatheblond
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congoboy
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attilatheblond:
certainly not for me. i love all women and all those who have ever known me love me too. just remember though, practice safe sex!
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congoboy
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remanns
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Well, it was certainly hard on bras.
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remanns
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congoboy
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remanns:
and that was one of the few benefits to some of us
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congoboy
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attilatheblond
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As far as I ever noticed, the goal of feminism was to bring equality, not happiness. The latter comes with what one does with the fruits of equality.
And if some women really dislike men, it is more likely because of what they have learned from how men have treated them, not what their mothers taught them.
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attilatheblond
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congoboy
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attilatheblond:
not all mothers are guilty of giving their daughters misdirection. happiness comes in many forms. some women are happy as wives, mothers, homemakers and others prefer finding happiness in the workplace. neither occupation is wrong and those who choose one over the other should not be chastised or descriminated against. i am not against equality in the work place although my belief is that it is not as prevelant as it once was and sometimes used as a political tool to further an agenda
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congoboy
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congoboy:
I would never be happy as a mere appendage to a man's life , a vesel for his seed . I grew up with religion , i hate it . Enslavement . I thank goodness every day i do not need a man to survive . The males i do have in my life view me as an equal , bless them . We are individuals first , then a gender .
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artemis6
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attilatheblond:
Just look around .....
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artemis6
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congoboy
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artemis6:
you shouldnt need a man to survive. but two people who admire, respect and love each other is quite complimentary to ones life and can make for a lifetime of happiness. that said ive seen unhappy marriages as well as unhappy and unproductive singles.
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congoboy
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freecrack
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no cuz its absurd
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freecrack
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freecrack:
I'm with you. Voted up!
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Leen61
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congoboy
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freecrack:
not for the women who choose homemaking over bread winning
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congoboy
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congoboy
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Leen61:
cool, as long as youre open minded for those who choose the lifestyle shared in this post
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congoboy
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freecrack
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congoboy:
uhuh, as the feminists come round dragging them kicking and screaming from their homes and force them to work.
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freecrack
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congoboy
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freecrack:
youre not far off. there have been many feminists who have degraded women who chose home and family over the corporate workplace
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congoboy
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congoboy
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can i hear an amen!
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congoboy