Islamic Sharia law declared source of new Libya legislation

In other words, you're a cynic that refuses to believe anything that is contrary to your prejudices. Point taken.

No, I'm just not a lemming who believes everything I see. And I think for you and some others here this has more to do with supporting Obama than it does with any truth in this case.

Like I believe that. BTW, saw this video already.

Oh I see, so because I have a different viewpoint on this I'm game for the ganging up on now. Forget it. I think I explained my views regarding this clear enough for you to hopefully understand and won't be engaging it anymore. If you can't understand, perhaps you then need to move your own prejudices out of the way.

Really? Can you cite that?

Yes, and I certainly believe that in the case of Libya. We'll see where the water is in a few months time... what companies have privatized it.

Spot on.

Uh, how old are we again? 1776 ring any bells? ;-) Democracy is the beginning of a process, it is not a "destination" that most of us will live to see, but we have been striving for more than 200 years to perfect it. Yes, we are still struggling, but we have made much progress in women's rights, voting rights, civil rights and open government. We still have a very long way to go and like MLK, most of us will not live to see the dream fulfilled, but the thought that "yes, we can" is a driving force that all despots should understand and seek to avoid! We have many bumps in the road ahead, but it is clear that with continuing will of the people, nothing can stop our progress!

Couldn't agree more. Of course, I would like to see a time when people are 'citizens' by virtue of having been born and no one should be enslaved or forced to do another's bidding w/o choice or challenge. We are all on a giant raft in the middle of the mighty Pacific and we can't have someone punching holes in "their" part of the raft that keeps all humans and life on earth alive!

Not when they become our enemies.

yup. No usury. That would be fine but you wouldn't have any banks if they couldn't stay in business. Tell ya a story that was floating around the internet a couple of years back. I believe it, but can't prove it. So take this as you will. Happened in Iran. Sharia has strict rules about sex. A teenage boy & girl were caught making love and went to court. The sentence for the boy was 100 lashes. They hung the girl. As I said in my post, I'll pass.

Sure, I've got 30k to put down on a home today! (Massive kidding alert! ;-). I prefer the idea that we develop a government bank for the people. Why isn't banking like electricity? We need both to keep the country humming and like student loans, if we (the people) are going to be the ultimate bankers (bail outers ;-), then why shouldn't we make money on the deal like any good capitalists? We fund the 'people's' bank with bail out money and we loan to each other at low, low rates (like what OUR government charges on loans to banks! ;-)

Libya didn't take ten years!
Obama basically got Gadhafi in a few months when the GOP have been unsuccessfully trying for 40 years.
Obama got Osama in 2.5 years when Clinton and Bush couldn't get him in 10.
I am looking forward to republicans debate Obama on national security!!!

http://www.theonion.com/articles/republicans-praise-nixon-administration-for-all...

Republicans Praise Nixon Administration For Allowing Qaddafi To Rule Libya So He Could One Day Be Overthrown

WASHINGTON—GOP officials claimed credit Thursday for the Libyan people’s liberation from Col. Muammar Qaddafi’s despotic 42-year rule, saying that without the Nixon administration permitting Qaddafi to take control of Libya in the first place, there never would have been a tyrannical regime to topple. “In 1969, Qaddafi staged a coup, abolished the monarchy, kicked out American forces, and demanded U.S. oil companies share more revenue or else face expulsion—had Nixon and his Republican appointees done anything at all to stop Qaddafi during this time, Libya wouldn’t be celebrating his downfall today, in 2011,” explained Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-SC), calling the Libyan uprising a clear feather in the GOP’s cap. “So once again, the Libyan people have only the Republican Party to thank, because without our brilliant foresight, there would have been no Qaddafi dictatorship, and without a Qaddafi dictatorship, there would never have been a reason for the uprising. Understand? Again, this is our accomplishment, and ours alone.” Before thanking reporters for their time, Graham quickly added that Barack Obama had failed on every level and will always fail on every level

There was regime change in Iraq in a couple of days. Didn't take long for Hussein to be removed. The dust up with the Al Queda was not "regime change". Funny, I do n't recall a gunfight in Libya between us and Gadhafi over the past 40 years. Reagan threw some missiles his way after Pan Am 103 but nothing like what has happened recently. Oh, Obama got nothing. That was a NATO operation, participation in which initially violated the War Powers Act due to Obamas arrogance. Obama got Osama due to the intelligence obtained during the Bush administration without which Obama would still be standing there with one thumb in his mouth and the other in his butt playing switch. Bush himself said that Osama would be "got" under another administration. Clinton had a chance and passed. For you to maintain that all this happened in the bubble of Obamas administration without any contribution by either of the two previously administrations is ludicrous and really unbelievable. Of course Obama DID handle, soup to nuts, the rescue of that freighter captain held by pirates off the Gulf of Aden but it was actually the Naval commander on the scene who gave the go ahead. The administration was pretty ticked on that one.
Hey, you pat Obama on the back for Osama and Libya if you want and makes you feel good. I really don't care. I don't think the next election will hinge on that.

Who the hell cares what you're idea of a good system is? You're a republican.

YOu are so correct. When the news of this hit, the wife and I looked at each other and said, " Yep, said that". You would have to be comatose not to see this coming. Many on this site applauded the actions in Libya over the past months as a revolution against a dictator. Well, it seems the Libyans are in the same church they were in a year ago, just a different pew.
Don't feel too bad about being attacked by the morons here. Happens all the time to many of us.

"I mean idk, but it just doesn't seem like the kind of government we'd want to create?"

It is their country, not ours. Should it be about the kind of government *we* want to create, or about the kind of government *they* want to create?

""Sharia law".... Wasn't that something the U.S. and more forward thinking nations were diametrically opposed to?"

Forward thinking? Not sure, but you could be correct. But I have mostly heard negatives about the term from the subversive radical right wing professional American politicians... and Fox "News." Those two facts alone make me believe, even more, they deserve the chance to do as they wish, in Libya.

Just my perspective, though.

Good perspective chew-chew.

You seem to be missing the acknowledgement that "we" did in fact destabilize that country for "our" goals...

The statement stands, and forcing "our" style of "democracy" is nothing new... So correct me for telling the truth, doesn't prevent it from being true...

Though I would agree doing anything over there to begin with was wrong... And, some would neglect to see how "Sharia law" could bring much if anything better... But you're right their call, so what if we insighted, then supported a rebellion that otherwise would not have occurred....

Great we'll get sweet deals on oil, they're no doubt now going to be considered in debt to us (something that country hasn't known before, debt).... There's that water their grateful rebel commanders/leaders will gladly give us some say over, and what of the 144 tons of gold?

Time will tell...

"You seem to be missing the acknowledgement that "we" did in fact destabilize that country for "our" goals..."

That wasn't one of the questions you asked and wasn't alluded to in the comment I responded to, Anonmaly. And whether that was the case or not, it still doesn't change my thoughts regarding what they should (be able to) do now.

"The statement stands, and forcing "our" style of "democracy" is nothing new... So correct me for telling the truth, doesn't prevent it from being true..."

There were no statements in the comment I responded to, only questions. And I was not "correcting" you in any way... only stating my perspective, which I did make clear.

"But you're right their call, so what if we insighted, then supported a rebellion that otherwise would not have occurred...."

Again, whether we incited anything or not, that was not mentioned at all in the comment I responded to. And the rebellion, unless I have missed something (and I certainly could have) was already happening before we got involved. So, unless you are aware of facts I am not aware of (and you certainly could be), saying it would not have occurred if we didn't get involved - since it already had occurred - is a line of logic I cannot see. Not saying you are wrong, Anonmaly, only that I cannot see that.

"Great we'll get sweet deals on oil,"

Agree with you there. And I agree with the spirit in which you said it, as well.

"they're no doubt now going to be considered in debt to us (something that country hasn't known before, debt)...."

I do not know that.

"Time will tell..."

Again we agree. :-)

Then why did we attack them in the first place?

"Then why did we attack them in the first place?"

I am not certain, John. I was not allowed in on any of the decision making leading up to this, other than what is public knowledge... and I may have missed some of that. So, was it a "Wag The Dog" thing, or were we really asked by the people of Libya to help? I do not know.

My comments were only that, from my perspective, they should be now allowed to choose their own destiny without any meddling from us (America).

Too late for that, we've already meddled. It was for oil, of course, Sarkozy gets most of his oil from Lybia and his supplies were being threatened, so he conned Obama into attacking Lybia for him, because you know the French aren't going to do it. And for our troubles they set up Sharia Law so now we have a brand new enemy in the world to contend with. Great work there Obama, only cost the American taxpayers $1.1 billion so far.