OWS protesters Anti-Semitic message. Will it hurt Obama and the left?

yeah and if nothing else, timez has a few good loiyahs

sorry to hear you gotta pay for it my friend

its not surprising that any movement gets a few psychos whom are sometimes mistaken for a majority voice. take the peaceful tea party and the unfair labeling of racist for instance, because a few loony's and plants show up. the news tends to focus on the few and not the many

just making a point my friend. apparently way above your head

Lets face it, Glen Beck is the biggest idiot along with his pal Limbaugh.

Who the hell do you think you are?!? You have no foundation to make such rediculous comments that are only your personal opinions based on your own twisted political bias. How arrogant, you say this as if it is the word of God because you spewed it.

I listened to this video, doubtful that Jubal did before he made an idiot of himself again. But anyway, there's noting in there which would indicate that Beck was trying to make an idiot out of the guy, most of what the protester said was agreed to whole heartedly by Beck, on the other hand, the goofy stuff the guy said was laughable, you have to admit.

I watched the video. I am god of my own reality, thank you for acknowledging this reality. Beck and Limbaugh are idiots because they are the courtjesters of the "talk genre" they are clowns. I have plenty of foundation to make such comments and it is my free speech right, just as much as it is your right to align yourslef with the clowns, is too.

I am god and I spewed this message. LOL

my woman prefers to bake especially for me, she'll be staying home

Oh how ye are mis-informed 'lil acorn. Acorn is still around, it's just split up in to a bunch of various front organizations to stay under the radar. They are still heavily funded by that fat assed, dirty Hungarian pig, and don't worry, you'll see those zombies again next Fall.

Right on. There is really nothing in commom between the Tea Party and the Flea Baggers. The Tea Party has obtained permits for every public gathering and purchased insurance as required to have large public gatherings. The Tea Party has always provided toilet facilities. The Tea Party waves US flags not communist or Nazi flags. The Tea Party has a specific agenda, while the Flea baggers have none. The Tea Party leaves the meetings and there is no litter left behind for others to clean up, while the flea baggers leave and there is shit, and trash all over the place. Yes in deed, there is nothing in common between normal patriotic Americans and the American hating, rage filled despondent flea baggers!!!! :)

That's a nice piece of propaganda. If it was actually true, it would be a great point.

While we are on this thing called truth, shall we get into the violence the Tea Party has displayed? Or how bigotry and prejudice? Or how we can trace this 'grassroots' effort back to their corporate sponsor quite easily?

It's easy to play by the rules when you know they will work out in your favor. Ha, and when I see someone from the OWS protests fly a plane into federal building (which Joseph Andrew Stack did), then we can talk about who hates America.

Nice try though...

If I recall correctly, Stack was a failed liberal businessman that had an issue with the IRS and willing took his life over protesting govt intervention affecting his business affairs. . . it was NOT about partisanship that the msm tried to make it out to be.

Make that argument again without using 'liberal' or 'mainstream media', and we can have a conversation about what it was about.

I think it was clarified that he was a Democrat (sorry, but I've never met a "conservative" Democrat. . . have you?) or am I wrong?

It was never confirmed what Stack's particular political affiliation was. His expressed views concerning taxes however did align with Republican dogma, although to be fair, he did express a dislike of corporatism as well, but being a failed businessman, it's not hard to see why he would choose that line of reasoning.

And to answer your question, yes I have met conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans as well for that matter. People's beliefs do not neatly fit into one ideology or another. I think it is a particular failing to assume that they do.

I stand corrected, apparently he had not declared a party affiliation or persuasion to those who knew him, and after reading his manifesto, he sounded much like most frustrated Americans "subjects."

I can remember when there were actually such things as conservative Democrats, but they've been run out of the party, I'm was one. The blue dogs are becoming an endangered species.

apparently the point went over your little noggin my friend

all you need to do is google ows defication, trash, urination, violence etc and then google tea party, peaceful, clean, permits, rental toilets and dcrogs point will be well made, you have to reach beyond the parroting and rhetoric of your pot smoking beer swilling comrades to find the truth my midguided friend

Hahaha, I'm not disagreeing with the fact that permits have been filed and toilets attained. But to apply the context that the people of the OWS are 'rage filled' and 'hate America' are ridiculous, especially when the contrast you use is the Tea Party.

True, I will agree that there are some logistical issue with the OWS, but I would much rather deal with those than the bigotry, hate, ignorance and unprovoked violence of the Tea Party to this who do not agree with their views.

Haha, sure dcrogs is correct in saying that permits have been filed and toilets have been procured, which are obviously easy to make. However the point was to challenge the context he applied to them, while simultaneously which washing the Tea Party, which is a comical attempt at best.

and you think im misinformed? aoh you take the cake

Yes, since you mentioned violence and bigotry at Tea Party events, and I never saw anything about that at all, I would like for you to bring me up to speed. Oh, BTW, I did see that asshole skin head Nazi at the flea bag protests in AZ with an assault rifle, but I guess that is not note worthy, since the "news" media did not bother to report it.

Right on, right on, I was one too, many moons ago. Now all we have is communism, and communism light! Hell, JFK was to the right of where the GOP is today! What has happended to our republic?!?!?

Most of them do bro.

hey, youre even closer to the tea party than you realized

If anyone is capable of pulling the moderate people with functioning brain cells from both the flea bag protests and the Tea Party movement, there would form a group that is no different than overall society. But, we never see that group in the media because they are shouted out by the freaks. Hence, the SILENT MAJORITY. Perhaps there should be a movement by and of the people, it certainly would not have a problem with credibility.

totally agreed ibrake, thats my point. but the left continue to be convinced the lunatic fringe within the tea party are the majority

my guess would be close to the same percentage as those who are racist within the tea party

we dont have to defend ourselves to fox or any of the old media. we are creating our own.

fox is still the top dog in the ratings, so the information they put out pretty much has to be addressed, one must not under estimate their ability to undermine o.w.s because they can do significant damage to the perception of it, and with the rise of the 53 percent movement it seems that they already have done quite a bit of damage already.

my point is we dont care what fox, cnn, msnbc or any of them say. it doesnt matter. we are building this movement without them. we are waking people up each day without their support to the fact that they are the brainwashing tool of the machine. they can say whatever they want.

also according to polls the favorable opinion of OWS has fallen

So fox is doing their job

As usual, your Canadian intellect is right on. Everything you have said is accurate, except for your opinion that there is a large number of racists in the Tea Party. That is not the case sir. I realize that you most likely have not attended a Tea Party rally. I have, not that it matters at all, but I saw Americans with all different amounts of pigment in their skin there, and EVERYONE was there for the same reason, opposition to our damned federal government getting way too big, and spending us into bankruptcy. The passionate opposition to Obama has NOTHING to do with the fact that he is half black and half white, it has EVERYTHING to do with his tired and failed agenda. The majority in America are simply tired of his lies.

Don't worry, CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, PBS, MSNBC, will not cover any of the negatives that are clearly associated with the activities of the flea bagers. So, the flea bag protesters have friends in the main stream media already, they don't need Fox to kiss their unwashed asses too!

Ah yes, the 53% movement, you must mean the normal, productive people who still pay some percentage of US Federal Income taxes!! The rest don't matter because they are not paying for a freaking thing.

"we"? I take it you are an "organizer" of the flea bag protests? Really? In what city did you work on this noble cause?!?! What a load of BS. Perhaps it is you who should wake up, perhaps it might be a good idea to throw away the crack pipe.

Nope, the normal people, who take a shower every day, and shave, and go to work, are fed up with the flea bagers screwing up the parks and streets that the working class tax base pays for. Bring on the cops and the tear gas and the clubs and the rubber bullets. Clear the streets and return them to the people who actually have paid for them.

I refuse to believe that people are that gullible.

They know they are drinking the kool-aid, it's just that they enjoy it.
They don't want to see the other side of the story.

I watch Keith because I want the progressive viewpoint, I am under no illusion that he is not biased.

And I don't think you believe what you are saying, no one is that gullible.
Those that watch Fox know what they are watching.

You see now, you just described the difference between us. WE can freely admit that we know Keith is biased, but they can't do the same because of the "fair and balanced" lie that Fox leads with. They're hoisted on their own hypocrisy. Not that the've ever been bothered by that.

i think you may have misread part of my response, i said that there is a "perception" that there is a lot of racists in the tea party, being on this site ive seen plenty of examples of tea party racism posted on here but i also acknowledge having not actually been around those people that i am not armed with all the facts to make that assessment.

I have been around leftist racism, it exists but it is not as overt, so i do leave room for the idea that should not judge a book by its cover.

Well ,to be accurate, at last count only 26% of those "normal, shaven,( or should I say sheered) people are fed up with OWS. The problem you have is that the number keeps getting smaller every day.
One day in the not too distant future, I forsee dcrog and congoboy, standing on top of a hill waving the "TAX THE MIDDLE CLASS AND SPARE THE POOR RICH (I mean, job creators)" banner.....all by themselves.....sad....sad.

AH! Perjoratives, the last refuge of the desparate!
Crack pipe indeed! I smoke my crack in a meershaum, just like the rich folks do!

Relax, the 53% movement is nothing but a hershey squirt.

yup but the problem is that it is quite easy to misinterpret and misrepresent a lot of o.w.s rhetoric as communist or asking for entitlements because since there is no cohesive message people can literally pick randoms from any protest and portray the idea of those handpicked individuals as the image of occupy wall street.

When people hear "redistribution of wealth" the first thing that comes to mind is that these people want your hard earned dollars which simply doesn't sit well with public support and beyond that since o.w.s has been in the public eye they haven't done much of anything of significance beyond protest, keith olbermann said on letterman the other night in response to o.w.s not having clearly declared their intentions( im kinda of paraphrasing) "its only been a month i would be worried if they came up with something more quickly than that" which is a valid point, but the clock started running as soon as they started getting heavy media coverage and if they don't do something more than protest the general public is gonna start looking at them as a public nuisance.

that kind of suggests a ideological war of sorts, one that o.w.s is starting to lose, there are many tactics in war, ignoring the enemy isn't one of them, it usually results with a bullet in the back of your head so to speak.

See,Batman, they don't want to get it because it doesn't fit anywhere in their world view. That's what is making them act so crazy. OWS changed the playing field and they're all running in circles trying to figure out how to attack it. I LOVE THIS!
There is no leader that they can smear or get some dirt on. there is no oganization behind them, so they have to make some up and hope one'll stick,(it won't), and it has no list of demands that can be wittled down to nothing. Is it any wonder that the trolls out here are sounding a little shrill.

Ya see rog, this just shows how cluless you are. Everyone in the OWS is an "organizer" You'll have to smear every single marcher, sympathizer, and just plain onlooker. Do you really think that the Rupert Murdoch machine is that powerful?
Gonna be an interesting year.
Just remember which side of this you were on; when it's over, so we'll know where to send the socalist/communist/nazi/anti-semite/sharria law,party vans. ( Did I miss any? I didn't watch Fox today, so I may have missed the smear de jour.)

if we were playing the old game on the old field using the old paradigm i would agree. but we arent. every one of us is in the 99. every one of us is both leader, organizer and member. everyone of us is responsible for ourselves, and for each other.

i get that it is hard for people who are used to the old ways to think its the only way. that they have beat their heads against enough walls in the past to think its an impossible task to do things COMPLETELY differently.. but we can and will!!

we cannot possibly win in their game. that game is rigged. we want to take that game out of the picture and make a new system for.. everything!

and we will cause we are all in this together!! call us goofy hippies, unrealistic whatever.. we own the new media, and we went from 15 people in a forum to hundreds of thousands in the streets globally in 2 months.

just wait til you see what we pull out of our hearts and hats next!

Wow, refreshing level of intellectual sincerity bro! Politics is like religion as you know, it does not matter what the facts are for or against an issue; one's opinions are clouded by their beliefs and prejudices. Let us not confuse any of ourselves with the facts, let's just stay within the confines of our own 'lil dream worlds. The fantasies of the Left have no possible way to function in reality, they never have before, and the fantasies of the Right have no possible way to function in reality because there are too many dependent on government serivces and who don't pay any federal income taxes.

Yes! I'm sure you have seen examples posted on this site of "racism" at Tea Party events. Those examples were the ignorant signs that were photographed by those who premeditated the act to undermine the credibility of the Tea Party movement, right before those in attendenace took the signs and told them to leave. These events were well documented and the signs were not displayed or prepared by Tea Party members. On the other hand, the communist slogans, chants, rants, Nazis carrying assault rifles, etc,etc,etc, at the flea bag protests were all cleary and obviously welcomed and supported by those in attendance.

Where do all the dumb asses who post in here come from? Again, I need to stop pissing into the fan, it takes too much energy. Were you saying something again? Talk to the hand slick.

BTW, you are not correct, the support for the flea baggers is dropping like a rock. I realize you don't live in reality, but those of us who do, the ones who actually pay federal income taxes and don't have their hands out every year for the EITC and other welfare payments, are fed up with not being able to open our businesses because those ignorant fools are shitting all over the streets, are fed up with not being able to use the PUBLIC park that we pay to maintain, are fed up that we will have to pay to clean up our parks when the flea baggers are finally removed by force and tear gas! The majority is against your group of imaginary revolutionaries, they are nothing but a shrinking group of stinky, ignorant, despondent little people. Most people see that very clearly, it does not take high intellectual capabillity to comprehend what is going on.

Right on, right on, right on! G, your comments and thoughts are so very poignant the vast majority of the time!

You are one sick bastard. You need to check yourself into a mental hospital slick, you clearly suffer from some severe form of anti social disorder in my humble opinon.

Careful there rog. You're starting to believe your own propaganda.
Very dangerous......very dangerous. I read that Joseph Geobbels was ranting about the ultimate German victory even as the Russian tanks were pulling up outside the radio studio. Really dude, you're starting to sound like that.

There's nothing funny about what you said,slick. Secondly, you did not say "exactly" what I said I wanted to happen the the flea baggers. I know your feeble brain won't be able to comprehend the difference, but let me try; the Tea Party movement is law abiding, they get the required permits, and buy the required insurance. They wave US flags and love this country, and when they leave, there is no litter left behind, no shit on cop cars or in public parks. What I said about the flea baggers is merely this; it's time for the police to do their jobs and restore law and order to the streets, with whatever means they have available to them if those despondent freaks do not leave voluntarily. What's funny is, there are never any problems from the Tea Party rallys, but the flea baggers have caused nothing but problems, and the Leftist slanted "news" media does everything they can to avoid reporting actual news. When the Marxist in Chief finally says enough is enough, then the "news" media will start reporting some facts about the flea baggers for a change.

I don't believe that even the most loyal fox viewers believe that.
They know they are getting biased news and they like it.

Current tv has the same business model.

So, you must be a metro-sexual who loves the biased slant of the major "news" media? There may be a slight slant towards common sense on Fox News, but there is major slant towards the dumb ass Marxist point of view on ALL of the other "news" networks. There is no way you can not agree with this. Any attempt to counter will just further expose your out-of-touch-Leftist point of view.

"There is no way you can not agree with this"
Sorry,but I have to disagree, and there is no way you can disagree with that!

Wow, that was so brilliant, I just amaze myself! Snork!

Contrarily, Fox lovers love fascism!...or something.

And I don't care if you are metrosexual, I say public transportation is a good thing!
So there, dcrog!

Oh Lord,please don't smite me for agreeing with dcrog....but he's right, they're all corporate lackies. Current may be the exception, but I reserve my opinion for a while on that.

P.S. sorry Lord, but dcrog is still wrong about everything else he says.

"snork"? Really? LMAO, trying to get logic from you and so many of your ilk is about as productive of pissing into a fan.

and Chris Matthews for sure.

i know youre a lost cause zoomz. and probably are too blind to even understand the point of this post. go back to school

He watches to much faux news. He just can't help himself.

More intellectual mediocrity from ye I see.

Oh, not to worry, I know the point of this post! It's part of the Fixed news kitchen sink approach to smearing OWS. Throw all the shit you can think of at it and hope something sticks. The fact that it changes every couple of days shows how panicy the people that have their hands up the backs of the news models over there are.
Seriously congo child, put that application in. Who knows they might even give you a spot on the big yellow couch. Right next to the hot(?) chick. Wink! Wink!

On second thought, you being 30 years younger than her,....well?.....awkward.

No such thing as a lie too big to print, my friend. Not with these guys.
You know the saddest part about this is when OWS really starts to influence change for all the people, dcrog and congochild will be saying they were for it all along, and we just didn't understand them.

actually i swore off all but written publications months ago

just because our opinions differ doesnt make us wrong lefty

possibly. but the same smear news shit dredged up by the left concerning the tea party. things dont change, the story evolves. too bad those ows'ers never will

maybe if theyd find some leadership and go about their complaints peacefully like the tea party they could become a legitimate force and elect some diverse politicians. the way democracy is meant to work