Community | November 22, 2011 | 7 comments

Uh oh, Global Warming Loons: Here Comes Climategate II!

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rodstradamus
Breaking news: two years after the Climategate, a further batch of emails has been leaked onto the internet by a person – or persons – unknown. And as before, they show the "scientists" at the heart of the Man-Made Global Warming industry in a most unflattering light. Michael Mann, Phil Jones, Ben Santer, Tom Wigley, Kevin Trenberth, Keith Briffa – all your favourite Climategate characters are here, once again caught red-handed in a series of emails exaggerating the extent of Anthropogenic Global Warming, while privately admitting to one another that the evidence is nowhere near as a strong as they'd like it to be.

In other words, what these emails confirm is that the great man-made global warming scare is not about science but about political activism. This, it seems, is what motivated the whistleblower 'FOIA 2011' (or "thief", as the usual suspects at RealClimate will no doubt prefer to tar him or her) to go public.

I particularly like the ones expressing deep reservations about the narrative put about by the IPCC:

/// The IPCC Process ///

Thorne/MetO:

Observations do not show rising temperatures throughout the tropical
troposphere unless you accept one single study and approach and discount a
wealth of others. This is just downright dangerous. We need to communicate the
uncertainty and be honest. Phil, hopefully we can find time to discuss these
further if necessary [...]

Thorne:

I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it
which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run.

Carter:

It seems that a few people have a very strong say, and no matter how much
talking goes on beforehand, the big decisions are made at the eleventh hour by
a select core group.

Wigley:

Mike, The Figure you sent is very deceptive [...] there have been a number of
dishonest presentations of model results by individual authors and by IPCC [...]

Overpeck:

The trick may be to decide on the main message and use that to guid[e] what’s
included and what is left out.

Overpeck:

I agree w/ Susan [Solomon] that we should try to put more in the bullet about
“Subsequent evidence” [...] Need to convince readers that there really has been
an increase in knowledge – more evidence. What is it?

And here's our friend Phil Jones, apparently trying to stuff the IPCC working groups with scientists favourable to his cause, while shutting out dissenting voices.

Jones:

Getting people we know and trust [into IPCC] is vital – hence my comment about
the tornadoes group.

Jones:

Useful ones [for IPCC] might be Baldwin, Benestad (written on the solar/cloud
issue – on the right side, i.e anti-Svensmark), Bohm, Brown, Christy (will be
have to involve him ?)

Here is what looks like an outrageous case of government – the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs – actually putting pressure on climate "scientists" to talk up their message of doom and gloom in order to help the government justify its swingeing climate policies:

Humphrey/DEFRA:

I can’t overstate the HUGE amount of political interest in the project as a
message that the Government can give on climate change to help them tell their
story. They want the story to be a very strong one and don’t want to be made
to look foolish.

Here is a gloriously revealing string of emails in which activists and global warming research groups discuss how best to manipulate reality so that climate change looks more scary and dangerous than it really is:

Singer/WWF:

we as an NGO working on climate policy need such a document pretty soon for the
public and for informed decision makers in order to get a) a debate started and
b) in order to get into the media the context between climate
extremes/desasters/costs and finally the link between weather extremes and
energy

Torok/CSIRO:

[...] idea of looking at the implications of climate change for what he termed
“global icons” [...] One of these suggested icons was the Great Barrier Reef [...]
It also became apparent that there was always a local “reason” for the
destruction – cyclones, starfish, fertilizers [...] A perception of an
“unchanging” environment leads people to generate local explanations for coral
loss based on transient phenomena, while not acknowledging the possibility of
systematic damage from long-term climatic/environmental change [...] Such a
project could do a lot to raise awareness of threats to the reef from climate
change

Minns/Tyndall Centre:

In my experience, global warming freezing is already a bit of a public
relations problem with the media

Kjellen:

I agree with Nick that climate change might be a better labelling than global
warming

Pierrehumbert:

What kind of circulation change could lock Europe into deadly summer heat waves
like that of last summer? That’s the sort of thing we need to think about.

more at link...

You call this science?
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7 comments // Uh oh, Global Warming Loons: Here Comes Climategate II!

  • Varex_Sythe
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      Varex_Sythe  
    • I will put forth that any person who is introduced as such, "James Delingpole is a writer, journalist and broadcaster who is right about everything," is more likely than not a jackass. Nobody is right about everything, and claiming so is an extreme over exaggeration or lie.

      Oh yeah, and Tverdell is correct. There really is nothing in this article that refutes global warming or exposes it as even a potential scam.

    • 6 months ago
  • Milieu
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      Milieu  
    • ************* If you read nothing else, please carefully read the last sentence with a quote from Delingpole himself.

      James Delingpole

      ImageSpectator and Telegraph journalist James Delingpole is an increasingly well-known climate change denier and proponent of the “Climategate” hype, which was designed to scupper the Copenhagen agreements.

      His “libertarian conservative”, deliberately incendiary and facetious journalism got too big for its boots when he took on journalist George Monbiot in a debate about climate change on the BBC’s Daily Politics show. Delingpole suggests (at 6mins50secs) that the system of peer-review was discredited by the “Climategate” scandal. George Monbiot states that this shows “not just a total lack of knowledge about (climate) science, but also about the scientific process”.

      This ignorant, pugnacious approach is characteristic of all his writing about climate change: Delingpole’s articles often amount to nothing more than unfounded scientific and political bashing, poking fun at “liberals” and “lefties”. However, his website has become a disturbingly successful voice of support for conservative climate change deniers like Nigel Lawson and Ian Plimer, and the comments on his articles read like a GWPF manifesto.

      His claims scrutinised: In this interview with the BBC TV programme Horizon: Science Under Attack Delingpole admits he "doesn't do science"

      Interview link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36Xu3SQcIE0

      http://www.campaigncc.org/hallofshame

    • 6 months ago
  • Milieu
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      Milieu  
    • James Delingpole (born 1965) is an English columnist and novelist. A self-described libertarian conservative[1],

      Views on climate change

      Delingpole maintains that man-made climate change is not as extensive as is widely asserted,[11] and links mainstream scientific projections with "the atavistic impulse which leads generation after generation to believe it is the chosen one: the generation so special that it and it alone will be the one privileged to experience the end of the world; and the generation so egotistical that it imagines itself largely responsible for that imminent destruction".[12] In a BBC Horizon documentary, Delingpole responds to the argument offered by Paul Nurse that there is a scientific consensus about global warming by asserting that the very idea of a consensus is unscientific. In response to the criticism that he has no background in the sciences he maintained that as a journalist "it is not my job" to read peer reviewed papers, his role is to be "an interpreter of interpretations".[13]

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Delingpole

    • 6 months ago
  • rodstradamus
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      rodstradamus  
    • Milieu:

      Some things Delingpole didn't do are manipulate data, cherry pick numbers, receive payoffs in grants and funding from mega-corporations and global governance institutions, and conspire to commit scientific fraud. He just reported on it. Thanks for the history lesson.

      Here's a lesson for you about rhetoric:

      An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of "argument" has the following form:

      Person A makes claim X.
      Person B makes an attack on person A.
      Therefore A's claim is false.

      The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made).
      http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

    • 6 months ago
  • Varex_Sythe
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      Varex_Sythe  
    • rodstradamus:

      "Some things Delingpole didn't do are manipulate data, cherry pick numbers,"
      You're right, he didn't manipulate or cherry pick data. Instead, he just did not include any data. Totally different.

      "receive payoffs in grants and funding from mega-corporations and global governance institutions,"

      Yeah, those scientists that do are liars! Like that one scientist who was commissioned by the Koch brothers, who as we all know have a very invested interest in making sure global warming/climate change is seen as fact (note: SARCASM), who claimed that the data supporting the concept of global warming actually was legit. He must be full of crap because he was supported by a mega-corporation! It doesn't really matter that the mega-corporation behind him doesn't actually believe in or like the idea of global warming and would rather see it contested or disproved, just the simple fact that he is on a corporate payroll and sided with climate change is enough suspicion!

      "and conspire to commit scientific fraud. He just reported on it."

      Michael Crichton made a similar argument when he wrote his book "State of Fear," the exception being that he argued that the book was a work of fiction and was supposed to bear no link to reality. And when I say he argued that, I don't mean that there was a disclaimer in the beginning, end, or anywhere in the book. Quite the opposite, Crichton contacted stations that tracked the growth or recession of glaciers and used those stations in a very professional looking work cited page in the back of the book. When contacted, those monitoring stations confirmed that Crichton used almost none of the information that they provided him with, and frequently wrote "information" that was completely opposite of what he was told by those stations. In his defense, Crichton said that the book was a work of fiction and was not meant to be scientifically accurate. You don't put scientific sources in a fictional book unless you want to convince people that you're basing your story on actual scientific information.

      But getting back to James Delingpole. He is not reporting on scientific fraud, he is reporting on bullshit claiming that there is scientific fraud. The evidence that is presented is not evidence of anything close to scientific fraud. Someone with a decent ability to apply reason should be capable of realizing this, which leads to one of two conclusions,

      1) James Delingpole is an idiot, or 2) James Delingpole is helping to circulate false and/or fraudulent claims.

      Edit:
      Aw, I touched a nerve with at least two people who don't like what I said, but they obviously don't have either the mental facilities, the proverbial balls to actually argue their opinions, or a combination of both. Lest someone proves me wrong, I'm going to go with both.

    • 6 months ago
  • thedirtman
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      thedirtman  
    • My guess is that they are working on a part of science called justification. Before any real science begins the scientists have to show the need for research because, as I'm sure everyone knows, money doesn't grow on trees. The budget ax is hitting scientists hard of late.

      In justification scientists build the best possible proposal for research using the most convincing line of reasoning. Justification is about half the work.

    • 6 months ago
  • tverdell
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      tverdell  
    • Odd, there is nothing here to refute man made global warming.

      And I assume these are the 'most damaging' excerpts.

      Or perhaps they are holding back the real damaging info?

    • 6 months ago
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